Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 23:13 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: I recalled there was already some discussion about this, and after reading through something like 300 mails ( xD ) i found this thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/007112.html So, free your phone could be dangerous. What about: Pay 399 and get a free phone :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Openmoko sounds, Motto
Open. Mobile. Free. is the tagline It captures our culture. OPEN, GPL code; MOBILE, focus on the unwired life; FREE, no charge for the OS. That tagline will not change. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans L Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto I think something as simple as a cheerful suggestion to Open up would be a really good motto. It sort of suggests a feeling of increased communication. Old phones have kept you closed off from accessing technology the way you want, whereas trying openmoko would let you out of such confines. I could see a slight downside if someone interpreted it as an order, like someone banging on your door, screaming it. It's all in the delivery though. Also since Openmoko allows users to turn their device into whatever they can dream of, something like: Open to interpretation might be another cool motto. Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
I disagree. open Moko is much more than free of charge. Maybe Open, Mobile, Infinit Open - to let you know! Mobile - to let you move! Infinit - to mach your creativity! my thought :P steve schrieb: Open. Mobile. Free. is the tagline It captures our culture. OPEN, GPL code; MOBILE, focus on the unwired life; FREE, no charge for the OS. That tagline will not change. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans L Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto I think something as simple as a cheerful suggestion to Open up would be a really good motto. It sort of suggests a feeling of increased communication. Old phones have kept you closed off from accessing technology the way you want, whereas trying openmoko would let you out of such confines. I could see a slight downside if someone interpreted it as an order, like someone banging on your door, screaming it. It's all in the delivery though. Also since Openmoko allows users to turn their device into whatever they can dream of, something like: Open to interpretation might be another cool motto. Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:01:50 +0200, Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also since Openmoko allows users to turn their device into whatever they can dream of, something like: Open to interpretation might be another cool motto. This one is seriously cool, especially because it's got more than three meanings. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
Actually, I'd say that GPL would be more correctly associated to free than open. It's a shame that free in english is primarily associated to free as in beer in this context, though, which causes all the controversy already discussed around Free your phone. I love that motto :'( On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:59 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open. Mobile. Free. is the tagline It captures our culture. OPEN, GPL code; MOBILE, focus on the unwired life; FREE, no charge for the OS. That tagline will not change. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans L Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto I think something as simple as a cheerful suggestion to Open up would be a really good motto. It sort of suggests a feeling of increased communication. Old phones have kept you closed off from accessing technology the way you want, whereas trying openmoko would let you out of such confines. I could see a slight downside if someone interpreted it as an order, like someone banging on your door, screaming it. It's all in the delivery though. Also since Openmoko allows users to turn their device into whatever they can dream of, something like: Open to interpretation might be another cool motto. Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
Tomas Di Domenico wrote: Actually, I'd say that GPL would be more correctly associated to free than open. It's a shame that free in english is primarily associated to free as in beer in this context, though, which causes all the controversy already discussed around Free your phone. I love that motto :'( I love that too...! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Tomas Di Domenico wrote: Actually, I'd say that GPL would be more correctly associated to free than open. It's a shame that free in english is primarily associated to free as in beer in this context, though, which causes all the controversy already discussed around Free your phone. I love that motto :'( I love that too...! I'm not entirely clear on why we can't use that. I understand the gratis/libre (beer/speech) difference here, but I can't parse Free your phone in any sensible gratis way. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On 4/21/08, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) I think it is Free your phone -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: URL:http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774 Free your mind - Open(moko) your phone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
Open source is more (or just Open is more) , was the first thing I thougth about when I read this e-mail. I think that a motto for openmoko should contain something about the openness. 2008/4/21, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
I recalled there was already some discussion about this, and after reading through something like 300 mails ( xD ) i found this thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/007112.html So, free your phone could be dangerous. The fact that the motto should signify openness is (in my opinion) a shure think.. the question is how :D On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Rune Gangstø [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open source is more (or just Open is more) , was the first thing I thougth about when I read this e-mail. I think that a motto for openmoko should contain something about the openness. 2008/4/21, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
ramsesoriginal wrote: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? Hello, The answer is here : http://people.openmoko.org/sean/files/openmoko_trademark.pdf Open. Mobile. Free or Free your Phone are part of official branding, there is also typographic and graphic rules for a good communication. Logos file and other stuff can be found here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy#Trademark_Policy I've seen icon sets on the wiki somewhere, nothing about sound though. Hope this helps -- Phyce ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free your phone, and the mind will follow Aaargh... we'll all turn insane !!! No, seriously, not a bad idea.. Or Hello Moko just for fun, to see how long motorolla's legal department takes to send a cease and desist letter. We coudl place bet's :D On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Philippe Guillebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ramsesoriginal wrote: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? Hello, The answer is here : http://people.openmoko.org/sean/files/openmoko_trademark.pdf Huh.. cool! This answers soem of my questions! Open. Mobile. Free or Free your Phone are part of official branding, there is also typographic and graphic rules for a good communication. That's great! as far as I understood it, the motto of Openmoko in general is Open. Mobile. Free (great motto) and Free your Phone is the motto for the Neo Logos file and other stuff can be found here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy#Trademark_Policy Great ressource.. I've seen icon sets on the wiki somewhere, nothing about sound though. Hope this helps Shure thing, thanks! -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
ramsesoriginal wrote on 04/21/2008 10:53 PM: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I think a human voice saying Openmoko - Open mobile communication would be a nice alternation to Free your phone or open. mobile. free .. Even if I like the last two better as a motto I think that the first one suits better for some kind of system sound.. cu, Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ramsesoriginal wrote on 04/21/2008 10:53 PM: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I think a human voice saying Openmoko - Open mobile communication would be a nice alternation to Free your phone or open. mobile. free .. Even if I like the last two better as a motto I think that the first one suits better for some kind of system sound.. cu, Georg And if we use/create some sort of instrumental only track, clearly published under Creative Commons, to use for the phone (startup, shutdown, advertisment, ..) -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
How about got my moko working. Then you could have a red flannel bag for your 'moko hand'. Moko is HD (hoodoo) enabled! http://www.luckymojo.com/mojo.html ramsesoriginal wrote: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
2008/4/22 Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Free your phone, and the mind will follow cool, lyrics by en vogue/george clinton 'free your mind, don't be so shallow free your mind, and the rest will follow' well, nearly... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Wow. .cool.. i not only (finally) discovered what mojo means, but i also liek the idea :D On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about got my moko working. Then you could have a red flannel bag for your 'moko hand'. Moko is HD (hoodoo) enabled! http://www.luckymojo.com/mojo.html ramsesoriginal wrote: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have soem sort of motto (like Hello Moto, Connecting People, ...) 2) Is there an official Openmoko sound set? Systems sounds, but maybe even a specific song or something? This could also be useful for ads, or for branding, and so on. Has anyone got some input? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
ramsesoriginal wrote on 04/21/2008 11:48 PM: Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I think a human voice saying Openmoko - Open mobile communication would be a nice alternation to Free your phone or open. mobile. free .. Even if I like the last two better as a motto I think that the first one suits better for some kind of system sound.. cu, Georg And if we use/create some sort of instrumental only track, clearly published under Creative Commons, to use for the phone (startup, shutdown, advertisment, ..) Of course :) I'm just kind of a lazy musician, has been some time that I've not touched my instruments ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ramsesoriginal wrote on 04/21/2008 11:48 PM: Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I think a human voice saying Openmoko - Open mobile communication would be a nice alternation to Free your phone or open. mobile. free .. Even if I like the last two better as a motto I think that the first one suits better for some kind of system sound.. cu, Georg And if we use/create some sort of instrumental only track, clearly published under Creative Commons, to use for the phone (startup, shutdown, advertisment, ..) Of course :) I'm just kind of a lazy musician, has been some time that I've not touched my instruments ;) Sadly, this holds true also for me: good thing today we have the possibility to do postprocessing :D -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I think a human voice saying Openmoko - Open mobile communication would be a nice alternation to Free your phone or open. mobile. free .. Even if I like the last two better as a motto I think that the first one suits better for some kind of system sound.. I personally think a human voice is a bad choice. There's NO point in making a universal sound if it won't be universally understood. Openmoko's uses may well extend beyond those we think of right now which may extend into areas that wouldn't recognize (or worse, would find offensive) a human voice. I recall someone once raising the question of Would a south east asian rice farmer understand the meaning of the house icon, given that his house looks nothing like it? cu, Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community