Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
2011/6/8 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: On 08/06/2011 14:04, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: Good news! First idea coming: we need to package this in many Debian packages. Where the word list came from? Other say: what is the licence? From here : http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/ You can get them (not in .dawg format) here : ftp://ftp.openwall.com/pub/ Licence is here : http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/LICENSE.shtml My understanding is we cannot package these wordlist because the license has some restriction incompatible with free license (there is no restriction on selling or not Freerunner distributions). -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
2011/6/8 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: On 08/06/2011 14:04, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: Good news! First idea coming: we need to package this in many Debian packages. Where the word list came from? Other say: what is the licence? From here : http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/ You can get them (not in .dawg format) here : ftp://ftp.openwall.com/pub/ Licence is here : http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/LICENSE.shtml Naïve question: why not using already package wordlists? I found that w* packages contain wordlist under /usr/share/dict/. And these one has a correct license. Take a look at wfrench as example. -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Le 09/06/2011 15:27, Guilhem Bonnefille a écrit : Naïve question: why not using already package wordlists? I found that w* packages contain wordlist under /usr/share/dict/. And these one has a correct license. You can use them to generate .dawg files, as soon as you have qdawggen on your computer. I didn't have it, and I didn't wanted to compile Qtopia (or Qt ?) to get it so I was happy to find these ready-to-use dawg files. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 23:04:55 Xavier Cremaschi wrote: On 07/06/2011 21:58, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: On 06/06/2011 21:45, Peter Fey wrote: Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) Hi, this guide (http://www.fragcom.de/server/fragcom_words) explains how to add a german dictionary to qtmoko. You need to adjust paths to the paths used by qtmoko, but under qtmoko ~v26 I got it to work an noticed predictive effects :-). I haven't tried for recent versions of qtmoko. Steps 67 for non-germans: replace en_US by de_DE in the mentioned file twice, and reboot freerunner. It also mentions the .dawg file is from a debian package called wngerman, maybe something similar exists for your languages. Peter Ok I tried it with a french dictionary and also the original words.dawg for en_US, and it doesn't seem to work for me :( Same behavior as previously... It works with : http://kewlcat.no-ip.org/openmoko/words.dawg instead of the dict I used. It seems dictionary in debian *spell packages are not in dawg format, and you can generate a dawg file from a list of words using qdawggen (but you need to build Qt to get it)... or go there and be happy :) http://alasal.be/openmoko/keyboard/ Xavier. Very nice, typing works much better now. This was the only thing that was missing in qtmoko for me. I only have one problem: I'm unable to use the special characters like é or à and also symbols (.,?) do not work :-( Somebody ideas to solve this? I'v also added the information to the faq on the wiki Kind regards Tomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
2011/6/7 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: On 07/06/2011 21:58, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: On 06/06/2011 21:45, Peter Fey wrote: Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) Hi, this guide (http://www.fragcom.de/server/fragcom_words) explains how to add a german dictionary to qtmoko. You need to adjust paths to the paths used by qtmoko, but under qtmoko ~v26 I got it to work an noticed predictive effects :-). I haven't tried for recent versions of qtmoko. Steps 67 for non-germans: replace en_US by de_DE in the mentioned file twice, and reboot freerunner. It also mentions the .dawg file is from a debian package called wngerman, maybe something similar exists for your languages. Peter Ok I tried it with a french dictionary and also the original words.dawg for en_US, and it doesn't seem to work for me :( Same behavior as previously... It works with : http://kewlcat.no-ip.org/openmoko/words.dawg instead of the dict I used. Good news! First idea coming: we need to package this in many Debian packages. Where the word list came from? Other say: what is the licence? -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On 08/06/2011 13:59, Tomas Nackaerts wrote: I only have one problem: I'm unable to use the special characters like é or à and also symbols (.,?) do not work :-( Somebody ideas to solve this? Same problem for me alas, I cannot type ça because of the ç ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On 08/06/2011 14:04, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: Good news! First idea coming: we need to package this in many Debian packages. Where the word list came from? Other say: what is the licence? From here : http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/ You can get them (not in .dawg format) here : ftp://ftp.openwall.com/pub/ Licence is here : http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/LICENSE.shtml ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Le 07/06/2011 01:07, Neil Jerram a écrit : Hi there... On 6 June 2011 17:01, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: But currently I am still unable to use prediction :/ Just in case it is a cause for confusion - are you aware that the keyboard doesn't actually predict at all? Rather, it performs fuzzy matching of where you pressed against the possible letters around that point. (Whereas predicting would be something like offering me understand when I had only pressed near the letters unders.) I wrote about this a while back: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/030442.html. Regards, Neil Yep, as a previous user of this keyboard in SHR I am aware of that. But thanks for your message :) I used prediction because of a lack of a better term indeed. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On 06/06/2011 21:45, Peter Fey wrote: Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) Hi, this guide (http://www.fragcom.de/server/fragcom_words) explains how to add a german dictionary to qtmoko. You need to adjust paths to the paths used by qtmoko, but under qtmoko ~v26 I got it to work an noticed predictive effects :-). I haven't tried for recent versions of qtmoko. Steps 67 for non-germans: replace en_US by de_DE in the mentioned file twice, and reboot freerunner. It also mentions the .dawg file is from a debian package called wngerman, maybe something similar exists for your languages. Peter Ok I tried it with a french dictionary and also the original words.dawg for en_US, and it doesn't seem to work for me :( Same behavior as previously... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
On 07/06/2011 21:58, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: On 06/06/2011 21:45, Peter Fey wrote: Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) Hi, this guide (http://www.fragcom.de/server/fragcom_words) explains how to add a german dictionary to qtmoko. You need to adjust paths to the paths used by qtmoko, but under qtmoko ~v26 I got it to work an noticed predictive effects :-). I haven't tried for recent versions of qtmoko. Steps 67 for non-germans: replace en_US by de_DE in the mentioned file twice, and reboot freerunner. It also mentions the .dawg file is from a debian package called wngerman, maybe something similar exists for your languages. Peter Ok I tried it with a french dictionary and also the original words.dawg for en_US, and it doesn't seem to work for me :( Same behavior as previously... It works with : http://kewlcat.no-ip.org/openmoko/words.dawg instead of the dict I used. It seems dictionary in debian *spell packages are not in dawg format, and you can generate a dawg file from a list of words using qdawggen (but you need to build Qt to get it)... or go there and be happy :) http://alasal.be/openmoko/keyboard/ Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
So you write on your screen with your nail instead of stylus, and you have a predictive behaviour ? How do you enable it ? Mine -- in french -- doesn't seem predictive at all. Maybe I need to add a dictionary somewhere... And the keyboard named Predictive keyboard (the one from SHR ?) doesn't seem to be predictive either :( Xavier. Le 05/06/2011 22:45, Francesco De Vita a écrit : The default predictive keyboard and my finger! (: I use the index like the stylus, the trick is to use just the tip of the fingernail. ..but I have to say, though I have trained, I'm still faster with my thumb on a common mobile keyboard with the T9 (: Joif 2011/6/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com mailto:omega.xav...@gmail.com Hi folks, what are your best tips to type text (not shell command, normal french text in my case) in Qtmoko, without being too slow if possible. Do you use any kind of predictive keyboards ? Or qwo maybe ? Kind regards, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Sorry I was not precise: I use the predictive keyboard that is without the predictive behaviour, I write letter by letter. Joif 2011/6/6 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com So you write on your screen with your nail instead of stylus, and you have a predictive behaviour ? How do you enable it ? Mine -- in french -- doesn't seem predictive at all. Maybe I need to add a dictionary somewhere... And the keyboard named Predictive keyboard (the one from SHR ?) doesn't seem to be predictive either :( Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Ok :/ We just need to find a way to make prediction work so ! On SHR you only had to install a dictionary of words somewhere, it should be the same here. It seems ( http://qtmoko.org/wiki/FAQ ) we can add unpredictive=0 in /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/PredictiveKeyboard.conf and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) But currently I am still unable to use prediction :/ Xavier. Le 06/06/2011 13:17, Francesco De Vita a écrit : Sorry I was not precise: I use the predictive keyboard that is without the predictive behaviour, I write letter by letter. Joif 2011/6/6 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com mailto:omega.xav...@gmail.com So you write on your screen with your nail instead of stylus, and you have a predictive behaviour ? How do you enable it ? Mine -- in french -- doesn't seem predictive at all. Maybe I need to add a dictionary somewhere... And the keyboard named Predictive keyboard (the one from SHR ?) doesn't seem to be predictive either :( Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: and it seems there is an English dictionary in /opt/qtmoko/etc/dict (.dawg files wtf?) Hi, this guide (http://www.fragcom.de/server/fragcom_words) explains how to add a german dictionary to qtmoko. You need to adjust paths to the paths used by qtmoko, but under qtmoko ~v26 I got it to work an noticed predictive effects :-). I haven't tried for recent versions of qtmoko. Steps 67 for non-germans: replace en_US by de_DE in the mentioned file twice, and reboot freerunner. It also mentions the .dawg file is from a debian package called wngerman, maybe something similar exists for your languages. Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
Hi there... On 6 June 2011 17:01, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: But currently I am still unable to use prediction :/ Just in case it is a cause for confusion - are you aware that the keyboard doesn't actually predict at all? Rather, it performs fuzzy matching of where you pressed against the possible letters around that point. (Whereas predicting would be something like offering me understand when I had only pressed near the letters unders.) I wrote about this a while back: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/030442.html. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko : typing text without stylus
The default predictive keyboard and my finger! (: I use the index like the stylus, the trick is to use just the tip of the fingernail. ..but I have to say, though I have trained, I'm still faster with my thumb on a common mobile keyboard with the T9 (: Joif 2011/6/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com Hi folks, what are your best tips to type text (not shell command, normal french text in my case) in Qtmoko, without being too slow if possible. Do you use any kind of predictive keyboards ? Or qwo maybe ? Kind regards, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
