Re: Tasks Client for FR
Hi, liedekef wrote: > > I think what Vladimir meant is "birthdays in the PIM application", not > an application called "PIM birthdays" > Ok. But I'm still not clear. Which app are we talking about in which distribution? I dont see this in SHR/FSO. Or am I missing something? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2811772.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tasks Client for FR
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > Vladimir Berezenko wrote: >> >> Does it have an interface to add tasks from >> other apps (e.x. PIM birthdays)? >> > No. Not yet. Haven't used PIM birthdays myself. > Though that shouldn't be difficult considering the data (for the tasks app) > is in a sqlite db. > Is PIM birthdays a debian app? I think what Vladimir meant is "birthdays in the PIM application", not an application called "PIM birthdays" Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tasks Client for FR
Hi, Vladimir Berezenko wrote: > > Does it have an interface to add tasks from > other apps (e.x. PIM birthdays)? > No. Not yet. Haven't used PIM birthdays myself. Though that shouldn't be difficult considering the data (for the tasks app) is in a sqlite db. Is PIM birthdays a debian app? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2810128.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tasks Client for FR
On 29/04/2009, c_c wrote: c> Hi, c> I've released a task client based on elementary and sqlite3. See [1]. c> The db should make it easy to write a sync app - once the modality to c> sync is clear. I'm looking at opensync - but any other method should be c> fine. c> [1] c> http://n2.nabble.com/NEW-e-tasks-Alpha-release-td2740524ef1958.html I haven't yet looked over it. Does it have an interface to add tasks from other apps (e.x. PIM birthdays)? Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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> Great news ! I think ics support will allow a lot of things We just released PISI 0.2. The biggest change is ICalendar support! Greetings Mike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, I've released a task client based on elementary and sqlite3. See [1]. The db should make it easy to write a sync app - once the modality to sync is clear. I'm looking at opensync - but any other method should be fine. [1] http://n2.nabble.com/NEW-e-tasks-Alpha-release-td2740524ef1958.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2744620.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tasks Client for FR
A quick note here ... libraries for syncml are really crap! But I managed to establish a connection to a sample Syncml server; no proper data exchange yet; but at least the connection (using libsyncml python binding) ... so there is some hope, that it is possible in general ;) Hopefully, coming back here soon with more information :) Greetings Mike kimaidou schrieb: > Hi ! Yes I saw this too. It is a shame, as syncing is really needed on > a mobile device. > > By the way since last week "dates" and "tasks" are available in the > SHR unstable repository. > So if you are running Shr unstable, just do > /opkg install dates tasks/ > to instal these apps > > > 2009/4/15 Michael Pilgermann mailto:kichka...@gmx.de>> > > I remembered that I had had a close look on the website already - > and I just did so again. > > I see two problems here: first of all it is written in C (PISI > uses Python); but nevertheless I think, I could re-use at least > some of their ideas ... > Second: the Sync-part of Pimlico does not progress much ... when > checking the SVN, I noticed that the last entry (in Changelog) is > from end of 2006; other parts are under much higher progress (e.g. > Contacts) ... > > So - for coming to an end - I haven't yet contacted the > developers; however, I keep an eye on this project and will try to > re-use stuff whenever possible ... > > Greetings, Mike > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi ! Yes I saw this too. It is a shame, as syncing is really needed on a mobile device. By the way since last week "dates" and "tasks" are available in the SHR unstable repository. So if you are running Shr unstable, just do *opkg install dates tasks* to instal these apps 2009/4/15 Michael Pilgermann > I remembered that I had had a close look on the website already - and I > just did so again. > > I see two problems here: first of all it is written in C (PISI uses > Python); but nevertheless I think, I could re-use at least some of their > ideas ... > Second: the Sync-part of Pimlico does not progress much ... when checking > the SVN, I noticed that the last entry (in Changelog) is from end of 2006; > other parts are under much higher progress (e.g. Contacts) ... > > So - for coming to an end - I haven't yet contacted the developers; > however, I keep an eye on this project and will try to re-use stuff whenever > possible ... > > Greetings, Mike > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tasks Client for FR
I remembered that I had had a close look on the website already - and I just did so again. I see two problems here: first of all it is written in C (PISI uses Python); but nevertheless I think, I could re-use at least some of their ideas ... Second: the Sync-part of Pimlico does not progress much ... when checking the SVN, I noticed that the last entry (in Changelog) is from end of 2006; other parts are under much higher progress (e.g. Contacts) ... So - for coming to an end - I haven't yet contacted the developers; however, I keep an eye on this project and will try to re-use stuff whenever possible ... Greetings, Mike Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:06:44 +0200 > Von: kimaidou > An: List for Openmoko community discussion > Betreff: Re: Tasks Client for FR > Sorry I have just forgotten : have you contacted the pimlico developpers ? > They already have begun to implement opensync integration. > > Regards > Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Sorry I have just forgotten : have you contacted the pimlico developpers ? They already have begun to implement opensync integration. Regards Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi My comments follow 2009/4/14 kichkasch > > About PISI - I am one of the developers there and I am happy to read about > all the input for further developments here. > As it looks to me now, there are different options, which probably have > different priorities. I have been pretty much busy with the Contacts part of > PISI; my brother will now start pushing the Calendar part a bit more (after > I will have done some refactoring on this side by the end of this week). > First task there for him will be proper ICS support. There is a Python > library available for doing all the low level files read / write (which I > used sucessfully for VCF files already); so it shouldn't be too much > troubles to come up with a proper implementation. Great news ! I think ics support will allow a lot of things > For the contacts part, I would need some more input for requested data > sources. For now, we support QTopia address book (SQLite, e.g. OM 2008.12), > LDAP Server, VCF files and Google Contacts. Awaiting are: > - opimd support > - SIM card support > - SyncML / Opensync support Synclm (and I suppose Opensync) does not only handle contacts, but all the pim data as calendars, tasks, notes and contacts > > - Online VCF support (just download / upload the file) > - Pimlico / Evolution > > My impression is, that SyncML / Opensync is my next task. I was searching > for some libraries already; and I found two implementations at a very early > stage - I will go and test them soon. I think it is a 'must have' feature if you do not want to re invent the wheel. There are so many different clients for syncml servers (PDA, palm, windows mobile, outlook, thunderbird, webpages, etc.) . Syncml is about to sync both ways. > > The Evolution / Pimlico stuff - I thought would be somehow outdated already > on the Openmoko!? The upcoming 2009 will be opimd?? Well, last time I looked > for it, it had not progressed much behind the initial idea. I think we must let the user choose. This is the power of free softwares. At the moment, opimd does not handle calendar, tasks and notes (I can be wrong) and -no offense to the developpers- we wait for it for quite a long time. If someone has some good news.. On the other side, pimlico already has a calendar and tasks application. I do not think pimlico is outdated but still in early stage. And opimd is not used by all the distributions. For example, Hackable:1 uses the pimlico suite to handle the contacts. I am really glad you and your brother work on this very needed feature for the openmoko ! Thanks a lot > > BTW: Has anybody yet tested PISI on a distribution other than OM 2008.12? I > always tested on this one ... > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2635064.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > Cheers Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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About syncing and data from the web: * with the last version, I think you can open a ics file from the web * the 4th tool from pimlico is about syncing.. I hope it is just a matter of time http://www.pimlico-project.org/sync.html * the projet PISI would like to implement the support of ICS files. If so, pbm solved ! http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html I am in contact with them to speak about pimlico * the data format of the pimlico suite is based on the Evolution project http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/ There are tools to sync the data withy the well-known syncml protocol http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/syncevolution?s[]=syncml So someone must be able to adapt / port it on the moko ? * you can copy / paste the ics files located here : ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics Ok, this is a very rough way, but it is ok if you only modify About PISI - I am one of the developers there and I am happy to read about all the input for further developments here. As it looks to me now, there are different options, which probably have different priorities. I have been pretty much busy with the Contacts part of PISI; my brother will now start pushing the Calendar part a bit more (after I will have done some refactoring on this side by the end of this week). First task there for him will be proper ICS support. There is a Python library available for doing all the low level files read / write (which I used sucessfully for VCF files already); so it shouldn't be too much troubles to come up with a proper implementation. For the contacts part, I would need some more input for requested data sources. For now, we support QTopia address book (SQLite, e.g. OM 2008.12), LDAP Server, VCF files and Google Contacts. Awaiting are: - opimd support - SIM card support - SyncML / Opensync support - Online VCF support (just download / upload the file) - Pimlico / Evolution My impression is, that SyncML / Opensync is my next task. I was searching for some libraries already; and I found two implementations at a very early stage - I will go and test them soon. The Evolution / Pimlico stuff - I thought would be somehow outdated already on the Openmoko!? The upcoming 2009 will be opimd?? Well, last time I looked for it, it had not progressed much behind the initial idea. BTW: Has anybody yet tested PISI on a distribution other than OM 2008.12? I always tested on this one ... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2635064.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tasks Client for FR
2009/4/11 KaZeR : > Thanks for the hint. I tried it under shr : > First problem : >>r...@om-gta02 /opt/knjmokocalendar $ knjmokocalendar >>-sh: knjmokocalendar: not found > > In fact the launcher starts with bash shebang, instead of sh err? > Then i faced a couple of missing dependency : > - knjrbfw > - libsqlite3-ruby1.8 > - libglade2-ruby1.8, they're listed here: http://www.opkg.org/package_166.html - should really be in the ipk for the file, but it's still very alpha > At this point, i was able to run ./knjmokocalendar.rb (but still not using > the shortcut). > I set up my login/pass, and ics url. yeah, there is a bug with one of the files not set to execute. chmod + x fixed that for me > Tried to sync, i had to install ruby1.8-googlecalendar and ruby1.8-openssl. > ruby1.8-openssl needs libssl0.9.7, when on shr-unstable you have libssl0.9.8. > Let's try with --nodeps, and ln -s /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 > /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 and ln -s /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 > /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7. I also had to install ruby1.8-rexml. > hmm, more dep issues. it will work, takes a bit of fiddling first > Now it seems fine, excepted that i have a name resolution error. Probably not > related to the app itself. > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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try the apps by knj - there's a google calendar app (should be adding other backends later), and an e-mail client, with support for imap http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Knjrepository Thanks for the hint. I tried it under shr : First problem : >r...@om-gta02 /opt/knjmokocalendar $ knjmokocalendar >-sh: knjmokocalendar: not found In fact the launcher starts with bash shebang, instead of sh Then i faced a couple of missing dependency : - knjrbfw - libsqlite3-ruby1.8 - libglade2-ruby1.8, At this point, i was able to run ./knjmokocalendar.rb (but still not using the shortcut). I set up my login/pass, and ics url. Tried to sync, i had to install ruby1.8-googlecalendar and ruby1.8-openssl. ruby1.8-openssl needs libssl0.9.7, when on shr-unstable you have libssl0.9.8. Let's try with --nodeps, and ln -s /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 and ln -s /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7. I also had to install ruby1.8-rexml. Now it seems fine, excepted that i have a name resolution error. Probably not related to the app itself. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2616238.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-[ Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:18:14AM +0200, kimaidou ] > @rixed about the scambio project : No offense, but I do not understand why > you don't use well-known and working standards as syncml or opensync ? First, because I didn't look very hard to find something close enough to what I needed :-) What I needed was a protocol to synchronize a set of "things" organized in folders, with the ability to store the same "thing" in several places, in realtime if connected but with an offline mode, with some kind of access permissions, and suitable both for atomic messages like calendar event and realtime flow like voip. None of syncml nor opensync fits this description. Starting from stracth is very unprofessional, but being bound to nothing is a virtue when you just want a prototype to test new ideas. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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@rixed about the scambio project : No offense, but I do not understand why you don't use well-known and working standards as syncml or opensync ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Please correct me if I am wrong (I am just a user): I understood there was a rewrite / adaptation of the pimlico dates and tasks to fit the look and feel of Openmoko distribution. So the applications openmoko-dates2 and opnemoko-tasks2 were put in the OM distributions and repositories. But * I think/heard that these openmoko versions were not the last version of the original pimlico project or do not follow the evolution of the pimlico project (I may be wrong). Now the version number of pimlico is 4.6. * Now, you can install the openmoko versions only on OM distributions. On SHR, I tried to use the Angstrom repository as I wrote in the wiki : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pimlico , but It is not a correct way because if you use this repository under SHR without breaking the installtion. So I opened a ticket in the SHR trac for this... http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/376 The best would be someone with the knowledge, time and will to compile it to an "simple" ipk and then put it on opkg.org On debian, you can easily test them with apt-get install dates tasks About syncing and data from the web: * with the last version, I think you can open a ics file from the web * the 4th tool from pimlico is about syncing.. I hope it is just a matter of time http://www.pimlico-project.org/sync.html * the projet PISI would like to implement the support of ICS files. If so, pbm solved ! http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html I am in contact with them to speak about pimlico * the data format of the pimlico suite is based on the Evolution project http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/ There are tools to sync the data withy the well-known syncml protocol http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/syncevolution?s[]=syncml So someone must be able to adapt / port it on the moko ? * you can copy / paste the ics files located here : ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics Ok, this is a very rough way, but it is ok if you only modify For now, it has no alarm support. Personally, I do not care, but people might. As a conclusion I would like to say that I use my freerunner as a professional mobile computer, and I am really missing simple ways to read / modify /sync the calendar and tasks and contacts ! Why not propose a cofundos project to help developper improve pimlico (and its sync tool) and PISI ? I hope many will answer and propose their vision / tips / softwares PS : I tried gpe-calendar, wich seemed great, but it does not handle big calendars witouht crashing (it becomes slower and slower and then you can do nothing more 2009/4/10 Robin Paulson > 2009/4/9 kimaidou : > > There is the great project pimlico which provides "dates" = calendar and > > "tasks". > > http://www.pimlico-project.org/dates.html > > > > These 2 apps are great because : > > * they use the evolution data storage way. As evolution has got tools to > > sync data with the syncml protocol, it must be easy to sync data > > * you can install dates and tasks on your desktop > > * they are user friendly, load fast and do the job correctly > > weren't they re-packaged as dates and something else, and supplied by > openmok as the originals et of applications? we already have them in > the om repositories. but there's no sync, or way of getting data from > the web > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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> IMO the ability to sync is something that is desperately needed. I'm working on something [1] to sync my own datas all over the place. There is no task application for now but the underlying synch protocol being agnostic it should be feasable. This is still in an early stage so new ideas are gracefully accepted :-) [1] http://www.nongnu.org/scambio/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/4/9 kimaidou : > There is the great project pimlico which provides "dates" = calendar and > "tasks". > http://www.pimlico-project.org/dates.html > > These 2 apps are great because : > * they use the evolution data storage way. As evolution has got tools to > sync data with the syncml protocol, it must be easy to sync data > * you can install dates and tasks on your desktop > * they are user friendly, load fast and do the job correctly weren't they re-packaged as dates and something else, and supplied by openmok as the originals et of applications? we already have them in the om repositories. but there's no sync, or way of getting data from the web ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, I remember reading about pimlico on a ML - but didn't get to try these. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2610860.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi all There is the great project pimlico which provides "dates" = calendar and "tasks". http://www.pimlico-project.org/dates.html These 2 apps are great because : * they use the evolution data storage way. As evolution has got tools to sync data with the syncml protocol, it must be easy to sync data * you can install dates and tasks on your desktop * they are user friendly, load fast and do the job correctly But * I cannot use them on my SHR because they are not in the repository. I tried the workaroung described here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pimlico#SHR , but it does not always work. One time I broke my installation (Perhaps I did not get rid of the Angrom repo before doing an opkg update) --> Please test and report * There is at the moment no tool for syncing 2 ways. One you can do is copy the calendar.ics files (in ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics ) from the desktop to the freerunner, and back, but it is not real synchro * The tool Pisi : http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html could be a good way to sync, but It does not support ics files yet * the project Pimlico "is about" to developp a synchronisation tool based on opensync, but I do not know when it will be out : http://www.pimlico-project.org/sync.html Anyway, I tried a lot of different calendar applications on debian based or SHR (dates, gpe-calendar, osmo, calcurse, etc.), and dates is the one I prefer. 2009/4/9 c_c > > Hi, > > try the apps by knj - there's a google calendar app (should be adding other > backends later), and an e-mail client, with support for imap > > Thanks - will try those. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2609563.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, try the apps by knj - there's a google calendar app (should be adding other backends later), and an e-mail client, with support for imap Thanks - will try those. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2609563.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/4/9 c_c : > there are a couple already in the om repos (one by qtopia, on be om), but > there's no way of getting data from an external source > > Well, the qtopia one can't run on FSO easily. The OM one was the gtk one (I > think hackable has it too) - don't know what the current status is - but that > should be ok. > > IMO the ability to sync is something that is desperately needed. > > I am actually looking at doing something with opensync - but haven't found > the time yet. Anyhow - with most of the code bits needed already done for > intone - let me see what I can come up with. I think an elementary based > implementation, with a sqlite backend and the ability to sync with a desktop > will be really handy. > > Then of course - going ahead - we need an email client and a calendar app > (with the ability to sync to a desktop). Ubuntu 9.04 is doing some nice > things with notification. Maybe everything can be put together. Will be > plenty of work though! > -- try the apps by knj - there's a google calendar app (should be adding other backends later), and an e-mail client, with support for imap http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Knjrepository ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, there are a couple already in the om repos (one by qtopia, on be om), but there's no way of getting data from an external source Well, the qtopia one can't run on FSO easily. The OM one was the gtk one (I think hackable has it too) - don't know what the current status is - but that should be ok. IMO the ability to sync is something that is desperately needed. I am actually looking at doing something with opensync - but haven't found the time yet. Anyhow - with most of the code bits needed already done for intone - let me see what I can come up with. I think an elementary based implementation, with a sqlite backend and the ability to sync with a desktop will be really handy. Then of course - going ahead - we need an email client and a calendar app (with the ability to sync to a desktop). Ubuntu 9.04 is doing some nice things with notification. Maybe everything can be put together. Will be plenty of work though! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Tasks-Client-for-FR-tp2609094p2609376.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/4/9 c_c : > Hi, > I'm really missing a good tasks client for the FR. Coming from a Palm > background, I find the absence of good 'smart'phone components a serious > drawback. > So - I think I might as well code one myself. But before I do that - does > anyone know of a good client I might have overlooked? > I did see Fido - but it didn't really meet my requirements. Any ideas > whether it's being developed or not - or is there something better? > -- there are a couple already in the om repos (one by qtopia, on be om), but there's no way of getting data from an external source imo, tasque would be great, if only it cached data locally. failing that, i'd be tempted to use rtm, and get my tasks as an rss feed, cached locally in a feed reader ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
