Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org

2008-10-07 Thread BrendaWang
Tobias Kündig ??:
 Hello everyone

 I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine 
 (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko 
 Freerunner this month.

 I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8

 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question.

 Thanks in advance,
 Tobias

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Hi , I am Openmoko Wiki editor. Brenda, can you tell me which image you 
want to use?
I can offer you some.
Feel free to contact with me.

Brenda

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Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org

2008-10-06 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Tobias Kündig wrote:
 Hello everyone
 
 I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine 
 (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko 
 Freerunner this month.
 
 I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8
 
 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question.

This is all licensed under the GNU FDL

http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html

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Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org

2008-10-06 Thread Tobias Kündig
Perfect. Thank you very much.

Regards,
Tobias

Charles-Henri Gros schrieb:
 Tobias Kündig wrote:
   
 Hello everyone

 I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine 
 (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko 
 Freerunner this month.

 I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8

 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question.
 

 This is all licensed under the GNU FDL

 http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html

   


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Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org

2008-10-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Everything is free and open.
You can also get press materials here
http://www.openmoko.com/press-press-material.html

Steve.
VP Marketing

Tobias Kündig wrote:
 Hello everyone
 
 I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine 
 (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko 
 Freerunner this month.
 
 I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8
 
 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Tobias
 
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Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread Rahul Joshi
Don't know about other sites, but this one particularly comes to mind -
http://monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko-Freerunner.html

Rahul J

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ?

 Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both
 environments
 interact graphically.

 Thx
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Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread andy selby
 is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ?

 Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments
 interact graphically.

None there at the moment, but you might want to keep an eye on
scap.linuxtogo.org

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Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread Alexander Frøyseth

NICE pics :D

Kevin Dean skrev:

I think he was looking for pictures of the ASU.

You can see some basic ones here
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/1432/qwerty-scramble-1.png
and http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/1432/qwerty-scramble-2.png

You can find a semi-reliable working concept
http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf

Though, in truth, the ASU is still under heavy development and as such
the UI is composed of several independant elements that will, as time
does, be blended into a more consistant interface.

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Don't know about other sites, but this one particularly comes to mind -
http://monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko-Freerunner.html

Rahul J

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ?

Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both
environments
interact graphically.

Thx
W


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Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread wim . delvaux
In essense I was looking for pictures that give me an Idea of the OM user
experience to drool over :)

CU
W

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Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread andy selby
2008/6/3 Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I think he was looking for pictures of the ASU.

I was hoping that a Freerunner owner would post some ASU screenies on
that site in future

2008/6/3  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 In essense I was looking for pictures that give me an Idea of the OM user
 experience to drool over :)

If you've got a neo1973, you can flash a qtopia on x11 image from
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/?C=M;O=D
It has limited apps but I did make a call using it.
Not sure how close it is to the ASU

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Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
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 is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ?
 
 Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments 
 interact graphically.

There are some pics and videos by Einstein from freeyourphone.de:
  - http://tinyurl.com/66ktzl
  - http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=freeyourphonep=r
  - http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ISHrtuQuGM

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Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)

2007-08-25 Thread Edwin Lock
Then make sure that the system does never respond slowly! ;)
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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-23 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Thomas Wood wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 19:49 +0300, Kalle Kärkkäinen wrote:
 [...]
  
 I guess that there should be something extra on the ui. It's pretty
 plain as it is. Maybe there could be animations or some other stuff
 that'd make the phone come to life? Maybe for the menus and toolbars
 or something like in compiz?
 
 Firstly, You have to build a project that works withing the technical
 limitations of your hardware. Sure, the original mockups (2007.1) looked
 impressive, but there was no way they were going to be implemented
 nicely with our hardware and resources.
 
 Secondly, it's only natural that after a while something that was once
 new and jazzy will become old and plain. The most exciting thing about
 this project is not that it will have a fancy user interface or some
 amazing killer feature. The most exciting thing about this project is
 that the whole phone and platform is based on the principles of Free
 Software.
 
 Besides, what's the point of adding animations or other stuff if the
 most important features don't work in the first place? We're building a
 smartphone from scratch here, so let's get our priorities right!

Very well said Thomas! I couldn't agree with you more :-)

-Sean

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Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)

2007-08-22 Thread Erland Lewin

Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:

We went back to the drawing board with OpenedHand -- lead by their vast
experience with GTK+, Matchbox, and mobile user interfaces -- and
redesigned an incredibly promising new interface.
  

Sounds great!

Are there screenshots available anywhere?

/Erland


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Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)

2007-08-22 Thread Nkoli
On 8/21/07, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Sounds great!

 Are there screenshots available anywhere?

 /Erland



Better, see videos on this blog:
http://chrislord.net/blog/fancy-scrolling-widgets-pt2.enlighten
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Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)

2007-08-22 Thread Rockmen Jack
Great UI!
But after watching the layout, I have one concern:
Compare with the incoming-call layout:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/f/f0/Dialer-incoming-arrows.png
and the in-call layout:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/f/f7/Dialer-talking-arrows.png
The place of the accept-call button in former is the same with hang-up
button in the latter. There may be the probabily that: if the system
responds slowly for some reason, user press accpet-call and in-call state
doesn't popup immediately, then he may press the button again but at this
moment in-call state popup, so he actually pressed the hang-up button
instead.


2007/8/22, Joe Friedrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 8/21/07, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
   We went back to the drawing board with OpenedHand -- lead by their
 vast
   experience with GTK+, Matchbox, and mobile user interfaces -- and
   redesigned an incredibly promising new interface.
  
  Sounds great!
 
  Are there screenshots available anywhere?

 Yes, on the wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dialer/2007.2 for
 example...

 Joe

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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Giles Jones
Amy Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical hurdles 
 are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color scheme is 
 going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright and colorful 
 and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like Halloween. The added gray does 
 not help, either! 

Orange and black will get the spooky kids interested in buying one though :) 

But if it's all being done in a skinnable way it will be possible to change the 
colour scheme and appearance.

The orangeness does remind me of old CRT monitors. I'd much sooner see some 
blue, it's easier on the eye (and that's a scientific fact, eyes are less 
sensitive to blue).

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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Amy Stephen
Absolutely true! It should be skinnable. But, before that happens - these
images are what are hitting the press. Would certainly love to see OpenMoko
present a very sharp, bright image as others are observing, wondering if an
open source community can really go toe-to-toe with the iPhone. I recognize
in relative terms of importance, this is *not* critical.

All the best, Amy :)

On 8/22/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Amy Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

  But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical
 hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color
 scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright and
 colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like Halloween. The added
 gray does not help, either!

 Orange and black will get the spooky kids interested in buying one though
 :)

 But if it's all being done in a skinnable way it will be possible to
 change the colour scheme and appearance.

 The orangeness does remind me of old CRT monitors. I'd much sooner see
 some blue, it's easier on the eye (and that's a scientific fact, eyes are
 less sensitive to blue).

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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Tilman Baumann

Amy Stephen wrote:

But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical 
hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color 
scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright 
and colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like Halloween. 
The added gray does not help, either!


I like the new schme very much. Dark interfaces aren't generally bad.
My Desktop is black and gray.
Or just have a look at the LG Chocklate, it is mainly black and red. The 
best looking phone ui ever i would say. :) (iPhone excluded)


But i'm sure this will be no real concern in the future, since theming 
is of course mandantory.


Regards
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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Kalle Kärkkäinen

  - Original Message - 
  From: Amy Stephen 


  Absolutely true! It should be skinnable. But, before that happens - these 
images are what are hitting the press. Would certainly love to see OpenMoko 
present a very sharp, bright image as others are observing, wondering if an 
open source community can really go toe-to-toe with the iPhone. I recognize in 
relative terms of importance, this is *not* critical. 

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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Kalle Kärkkäinen
Sorry for the empty post. Heres the intended content.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Amy Stephen 
  Absolutely true! It should be skinnable. But, before that happens - these 
images are what are hitting the press. Would certainly love to see OpenMoko 
present a very sharp, bright image as others are observing, wondering if an 
open source community can really go toe-to-toe with the iPhone. I recognize in 
relative terms of importance, this is *not* critical. 

I have to agree with amy. Interface is not that jazzy yet. It looks really 
old-school. I've yet to hold moko in my hands so I can not comment on how it 
feels, but it does look a bit old in the videos.

It's sort of funny the way it seems to go: first you are really exited about 
something (like I was about the first ui's), and then it starts to look old. 
Even before I get it in my hands.

I guess that this is due to the fact that the implementation has not been up to 
speed with the photoshop drafts. And now that they are getting closer to the 
point when ui would be important, there is a release of images that do not 
contain that much of anything new.

BTW: its hard to be exited about kinetic scrolling when others have already 
done it so well. It's a 'cool' feature, must-have, in order not to pale in 
comparison.

I guess that there should be something extra on the ui. It's pretty plain as it 
is. Maybe there could be animations or some other stuff that'd make the phone 
come to life? Maybe for the menus and toolbars or something like in compiz?

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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Amy Stephen
On 8/22/07, Jeremy G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think at this point, the orange/black is just such a default
 OpenMoko look that getting rid of it would cause a few aneurysms; I
 also think that the color scheme is already so associated with the OS
 that springing something new would bring about a bit of confusion in
 the press and among casual followers.


OK, Jeremy - that is an excellent point. I withdraw my incredibly
unimportant points! Brand recognition certainly trumps this.

Back to listening in to this fabulous and important discussion...keep up the
great work!

Amy :)




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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Thomas Wood
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 19:49 +0300, Kalle Kärkkäinen wrote:
[...]
  
 I guess that there should be something extra on the ui. It's pretty
 plain as it is. Maybe there could be animations or some other stuff
 that'd make the phone come to life? Maybe for the menus and toolbars
 or something like in compiz?

Firstly, You have to build a project that works withing the technical
limitations of your hardware. Sure, the original mockups (2007.1) looked
impressive, but there was no way they were going to be implemented
nicely with our hardware and resources.

Secondly, it's only natural that after a while something that was once
new and jazzy will become old and plain. The most exciting thing about
this project is not that it will have a fancy user interface or some
amazing killer feature. The most exciting thing about this project is
that the whole phone and platform is based on the principles of Free
Software.

Besides, what's the point of adding animations or other stuff if the
most important features don't work in the first place? We're building a
smartphone from scratch here, so let's get our priorities right!

Regards,

Thomas


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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Xamindar
I just want to say that I can't stand the ubuntu colors.  Please don't 
suggest using ugly brown colors for a phone.  At the moment I like the 
dark version of the phone but the orange one could use a little change.


Dylan McCall wrote:
Have to kind of agree with Amy about the colour scheme. I am not much of 
an art person, but I am pondering a theme that rhymes with Ubuntu's 
Human theme, with a more natural, (human) look to the applications. I am 
one of what seems a few who has always liked the idea behind that theme :b
What I have pondered out (in way too many different mediums) is a bit 
lighter than that Human theme, but I think it is helpful to have 
applications behave more like people than just machines. I am not 
talking about avatars that are pictures of smiling people! For example, 
people make suggestions and know what they are doing, while machines 
just do things, assuming the user knows everything. For a friendly 
interface, I think the human behaviour can be really beneficial and 
unique, as opposed to the appliance behaviour of most systems. The theme 
is the first place to start!


The other thing I consider a bit problematic with the black and orange 
is that it is difficult (nay, impossible!) to get a more extreme colour 
for particularly important buttons and messages. For example, with a 
lighter background, Red would be a lot prominent.


Bye,
-Dylan McCall

On 8/22/07, *Amy Stephen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Thanks so much for sharing these pictures. I include one, and a
link, on OpenSourceCommunity.org

I watch this project very closely. It has great potential to keep
choice available to people - even just for selecting a services
provider.

But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing
technical hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well.
But, that color scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should
be snazzy and bright and colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and
black like Halloween. The added gray does not help, either!

All the best to you all as you work together on this extremely
important effort!
Amy :)


On 8/22/07, * Franco Austin*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=1
 


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Re: Screenshots

2007-08-22 Thread Giles Jones


On 22 Aug 2007, at 19:38, Xamindar wrote:

I just want to say that I can't stand the ubuntu colors.  Please  
don't suggest using ugly brown colors for a phone.  At the moment I  
like the dark version of the phone but the orange one could use a  
little change.


People will never agree on colours, icons etc. People like to be  
individual or to be able to customise.


Effort should be put into making theme support painless, then  
everyone can be happy.


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