Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org
Tobias Kündig ??: Hello everyone I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko Freerunner this month. I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question. Thanks in advance, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi , I am Openmoko Wiki editor. Brenda, can you tell me which image you want to use? I can offer you some. Feel free to contact with me. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org
Tobias Kündig wrote: Hello everyone I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko Freerunner this month. I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question. This is all licensed under the GNU FDL http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org
Perfect. Thank you very much. Regards, Tobias Charles-Henri Gros schrieb: Tobias Kündig wrote: Hello everyone I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko Freerunner this month. I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question. This is all licensed under the GNU FDL http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org
Everything is free and open. You can also get press materials here http://www.openmoko.com/press-press-material.html Steve. VP Marketing Tobias Kündig wrote: Hello everyone I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko Freerunner this month. I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question. Thanks in advance, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: screenshots
Don't know about other sites, but this one particularly comes to mind - http://monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko-Freerunner.html Rahul J On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ? Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments interact graphically. Thx W ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: screenshots
is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ? Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments interact graphically. None there at the moment, but you might want to keep an eye on scap.linuxtogo.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: screenshots
NICE pics :D Kevin Dean skrev: I think he was looking for pictures of the ASU. You can see some basic ones here http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/1432/qwerty-scramble-1.png and http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/1432/qwerty-scramble-2.png You can find a semi-reliable working concept http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf Though, in truth, the ASU is still under heavy development and as such the UI is composed of several independant elements that will, as time does, be blended into a more consistant interface. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know about other sites, but this one particularly comes to mind - http://monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko-Freerunner.html Rahul J On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ? Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments interact graphically. Thx W ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: screenshots
In essense I was looking for pictures that give me an Idea of the OM user experience to drool over :) CU W ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: screenshots
2008/6/3 Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think he was looking for pictures of the ASU. I was hoping that a Freerunner owner would post some ASU screenies on that site in future 2008/6/3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In essense I was looking for pictures that give me an Idea of the OM user experience to drool over :) If you've got a neo1973, you can flash a qtopia on x11 image from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/?C=M;O=D It has limited apps but I did make a call using it. Not sure how close it is to the ASU ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: screenshots
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ? Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments interact graphically. There are some pics and videos by Einstein from freeyourphone.de: - http://tinyurl.com/66ktzl - http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=freeyourphonep=r - http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ISHrtuQuGM Bye -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)
Then make sure that the system does never respond slowly! ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
Thomas Wood wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 19:49 +0300, Kalle Kärkkäinen wrote: [...] I guess that there should be something extra on the ui. It's pretty plain as it is. Maybe there could be animations or some other stuff that'd make the phone come to life? Maybe for the menus and toolbars or something like in compiz? Firstly, You have to build a project that works withing the technical limitations of your hardware. Sure, the original mockups (2007.1) looked impressive, but there was no way they were going to be implemented nicely with our hardware and resources. Secondly, it's only natural that after a while something that was once new and jazzy will become old and plain. The most exciting thing about this project is not that it will have a fancy user interface or some amazing killer feature. The most exciting thing about this project is that the whole phone and platform is based on the principles of Free Software. Besides, what's the point of adding animations or other stuff if the most important features don't work in the first place? We're building a smartphone from scratch here, so let's get our priorities right! Very well said Thomas! I couldn't agree with you more :-) -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: We went back to the drawing board with OpenedHand -- lead by their vast experience with GTK+, Matchbox, and mobile user interfaces -- and redesigned an incredibly promising new interface. Sounds great! Are there screenshots available anywhere? /Erland ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)
On 8/21/07, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds great! Are there screenshots available anywhere? /Erland Better, see videos on this blog: http://chrislord.net/blog/fancy-scrolling-widgets-pt2.enlighten ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)
Great UI! But after watching the layout, I have one concern: Compare with the incoming-call layout: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/f/f0/Dialer-incoming-arrows.png and the in-call layout: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/f/f7/Dialer-talking-arrows.png The place of the accept-call button in former is the same with hang-up button in the latter. There may be the probabily that: if the system responds slowly for some reason, user press accpet-call and in-call state doesn't popup immediately, then he may press the button again but at this moment in-call state popup, so he actually pressed the hang-up button instead. 2007/8/22, Joe Friedrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/21/07, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: We went back to the drawing board with OpenedHand -- lead by their vast experience with GTK+, Matchbox, and mobile user interfaces -- and redesigned an incredibly promising new interface. Sounds great! Are there screenshots available anywhere? Yes, on the wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dialer/2007.2 for example... Joe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
Amy Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright and colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like Halloween. The added gray does not help, either! Orange and black will get the spooky kids interested in buying one though :) But if it's all being done in a skinnable way it will be possible to change the colour scheme and appearance. The orangeness does remind me of old CRT monitors. I'd much sooner see some blue, it's easier on the eye (and that's a scientific fact, eyes are less sensitive to blue). --- G O Jones ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
Absolutely true! It should be skinnable. But, before that happens - these images are what are hitting the press. Would certainly love to see OpenMoko present a very sharp, bright image as others are observing, wondering if an open source community can really go toe-to-toe with the iPhone. I recognize in relative terms of importance, this is *not* critical. All the best, Amy :) On 8/22/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amy Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright and colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like Halloween. The added gray does not help, either! Orange and black will get the spooky kids interested in buying one though :) But if it's all being done in a skinnable way it will be possible to change the colour scheme and appearance. The orangeness does remind me of old CRT monitors. I'd much sooner see some blue, it's easier on the eye (and that's a scientific fact, eyes are less sensitive to blue). --- G O Jones ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://OpenSourceCommunity.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
Amy Stephen wrote: But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright and colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like Halloween. The added gray does not help, either! I like the new schme very much. Dark interfaces aren't generally bad. My Desktop is black and gray. Or just have a look at the LG Chocklate, it is mainly black and red. The best looking phone ui ever i would say. :) (iPhone excluded) But i'm sure this will be no real concern in the future, since theming is of course mandantory. Regards Tilman ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
- Original Message - From: Amy Stephen Absolutely true! It should be skinnable. But, before that happens - these images are what are hitting the press. Would certainly love to see OpenMoko present a very sharp, bright image as others are observing, wondering if an open source community can really go toe-to-toe with the iPhone. I recognize in relative terms of importance, this is *not* critical. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
Sorry for the empty post. Heres the intended content. - Original Message - From: Amy Stephen Absolutely true! It should be skinnable. But, before that happens - these images are what are hitting the press. Would certainly love to see OpenMoko present a very sharp, bright image as others are observing, wondering if an open source community can really go toe-to-toe with the iPhone. I recognize in relative terms of importance, this is *not* critical. I have to agree with amy. Interface is not that jazzy yet. It looks really old-school. I've yet to hold moko in my hands so I can not comment on how it feels, but it does look a bit old in the videos. It's sort of funny the way it seems to go: first you are really exited about something (like I was about the first ui's), and then it starts to look old. Even before I get it in my hands. I guess that this is due to the fact that the implementation has not been up to speed with the photoshop drafts. And now that they are getting closer to the point when ui would be important, there is a release of images that do not contain that much of anything new. BTW: its hard to be exited about kinetic scrolling when others have already done it so well. It's a 'cool' feature, must-have, in order not to pale in comparison. I guess that there should be something extra on the ui. It's pretty plain as it is. Maybe there could be animations or some other stuff that'd make the phone come to life? Maybe for the menus and toolbars or something like in compiz? -- Kalle.___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
On 8/22/07, Jeremy G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think at this point, the orange/black is just such a default OpenMoko look that getting rid of it would cause a few aneurysms; I also think that the color scheme is already so associated with the OS that springing something new would bring about a bit of confusion in the press and among casual followers. OK, Jeremy - that is an excellent point. I withdraw my incredibly unimportant points! Brand recognition certainly trumps this. Back to listening in to this fabulous and important discussion...keep up the great work! Amy :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://OpenSourceCommunity.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 19:49 +0300, Kalle Kärkkäinen wrote: [...] I guess that there should be something extra on the ui. It's pretty plain as it is. Maybe there could be animations or some other stuff that'd make the phone come to life? Maybe for the menus and toolbars or something like in compiz? Firstly, You have to build a project that works withing the technical limitations of your hardware. Sure, the original mockups (2007.1) looked impressive, but there was no way they were going to be implemented nicely with our hardware and resources. Secondly, it's only natural that after a while something that was once new and jazzy will become old and plain. The most exciting thing about this project is not that it will have a fancy user interface or some amazing killer feature. The most exciting thing about this project is that the whole phone and platform is based on the principles of Free Software. Besides, what's the point of adding animations or other stuff if the most important features don't work in the first place? We're building a smartphone from scratch here, so let's get our priorities right! Regards, Thomas -- OpenedHand Ltd. Unit R Homesdale Business Center / 216-218 Homesdale Road / Bromley / BR1 2QZ / UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8819 6559 Expert Open Source For Consumer Devices - http://o-hand.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
I just want to say that I can't stand the ubuntu colors. Please don't suggest using ugly brown colors for a phone. At the moment I like the dark version of the phone but the orange one could use a little change. Dylan McCall wrote: Have to kind of agree with Amy about the colour scheme. I am not much of an art person, but I am pondering a theme that rhymes with Ubuntu's Human theme, with a more natural, (human) look to the applications. I am one of what seems a few who has always liked the idea behind that theme :b What I have pondered out (in way too many different mediums) is a bit lighter than that Human theme, but I think it is helpful to have applications behave more like people than just machines. I am not talking about avatars that are pictures of smiling people! For example, people make suggestions and know what they are doing, while machines just do things, assuming the user knows everything. For a friendly interface, I think the human behaviour can be really beneficial and unique, as opposed to the appliance behaviour of most systems. The theme is the first place to start! The other thing I consider a bit problematic with the black and orange is that it is difficult (nay, impossible!) to get a more extreme colour for particularly important buttons and messages. For example, with a lighter background, Red would be a lot prominent. Bye, -Dylan McCall On 8/22/07, *Amy Stephen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks so much for sharing these pictures. I include one, and a link, on OpenSourceCommunity.org I watch this project very closely. It has great potential to keep choice available to people - even just for selecting a services provider. But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright and colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like Halloween. The added gray does not help, either! All the best to you all as you work together on this extremely important effort! Amy :) On 8/22/07, * Franco Austin* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=1 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://OpenSourceCommunity.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots
On 22 Aug 2007, at 19:38, Xamindar wrote: I just want to say that I can't stand the ubuntu colors. Please don't suggest using ugly brown colors for a phone. At the moment I like the dark version of the phone but the orange one could use a little change. People will never agree on colours, icons etc. People like to be individual or to be able to customise. Effort should be put into making theme support painless, then everyone can be happy. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community