Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-20 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
snip
 *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or donate
 a debug board
snip
Please contact me, I will donate this debug board.
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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-20 Thread Fabian Killus

  On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Exactly! About development I propose to expose peoples, projects and
  what is missing, an example:
 
  critical new openmoko community core development:
 
  *) FSO team is developing the middleware, they need c/vala experts,
  funding :) *) Mirko is working on Paroli, help is needed to create
  a a good wifi manager plugin
  *) Angus is working on om2009, openembedded experts are welcome
  *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or
  donate a debug board
  *) Thomas, Andreas etc. is working on xorg glamo, drm/dri experts
  are welcome *) xxx, yyy maintains the server infrastructure, gforge
  experts needed ...
 
  other community development:
 
  *) c_c is working on audio/video mediaplayer
  *) xxx is working on bluetooth manager
  *) yyy is adapting linphone UI for small devices
  *) zzz and www is testing qlwm for arm and writing qt applications
  to create a new and complete qt/x11 gui phone stack over fso, every
  qt developer is welcome
  *) xxx is working to support wpa2/enterprise in connman
  *)  shr
  *)  debian
  *)  hackable:1
  *)  neovento
  *)  gentoo
  *)  qtmoko/qtimproved
 
  We need discussion boards too:
 
  *) how to use better the aux and power buttons
  *) killing freezed x11 fullscreen applications
  *) the wanted systray support
  *) windows manager status
  *) x11 server over qtimproved
  *) improving the user interaction with accelerometers
  *) long term architecture for om2010
  ...
 
  The same for other tasks, there are few human resources, we need
  organization and coordination.
 

I am just another casual Freerunner user having lurked on the list
long enough now. I feel like we need a solid single point of contact
for all device owners and interested people. Our wiki is a good
starting point, but still everything seems a little bit messy to me.
While the software is getting better and better every day I agree with
others that it's time to improve the organizational part as well.

I felt free to add the points proposed by Nicola to the Community
Transition Page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_transition

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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-19 Thread Brenda Wang



Hi!

OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks
like that also the releasing of Community Updates
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped
(actually the 'news' link has been removed from wiki main navigation).


Brenda Wang  wrote:
 
 Two days ago, I read the documentation list, there's some request about
 the link of wiki side bar. So I removed the news' link from wiki main
 navigation two days ago.
 
 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2943035|a2952101
 
 I will add it back when next updates released.
 
 Regards
 
 Brenda Wang
 

So we have to do it. I think it's vital for the community to have some
kind of newsletter that allows one to have a quick look at what's
happened, if you don't follow the mailing lists and IRC daily.

I started the draft page here for the next updates:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009
Please add there everything that's happened since May 22nd.

Adding news

   1. Don't trust that someone else will add it, add it yourself and
make it clean
   2. Add links to blog posts, applications, mailing list posts that
you think are worth to announce to the whole community

Releasing

   1. If it's The Release Date and you notice the news has not been
released, DO IT! Don't trust that someone else will do it for you.
   2. When you release, move the content of Talk: page to the actual
wikipage.
   3. Add a link to the released update page to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates
   4. Prepare the draft page for the next community news: captions,
dates etc.. Releasing news on Thursdays every two weeks sound's good
to me.
   5. Send a post to the community mailing list with the link to the
released news and the draft of the next news.

The rules are also at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates#Rules_for_community_updates



r (hey, I just started this again, don't trust me to push it any
further, do it yourself :D

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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-19 Thread Gothnet



Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks
 like that also the releasing of Community Updates
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped
 
 

Hooray! It's less than a year sine the FR commercial release and it's
already abandonware!
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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-19 Thread Gerald A
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:

 The community transition should be announced with an help call for every
 kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers,
 developing, general coordination, transition news and so on.


Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki?

I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue about what needs to
be done.

I'd even post a list to the wiki, if I knew what needed to be done.

Gerald.
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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-19 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 17:59, Gothnetopenm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote:



 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:

 Hi!

 OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks
 like that also the releasing of Community Updates
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped



 Hooray! It's less than a year sine the FR commercial release and it's
 already abandonware!

I don't think Openmoko support is really needed, and I would not call
FR abandonware. More - it's now better than even before (SHR), and it
looks it will be much better than now in near future (Cornucopia).

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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-19 Thread Davide Scaini
VERY GOOD IDEA INDEED!
thanks risto
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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-19 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Gerald Ageraldabli...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:

 The community transition should be announced with an help call for every
 kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers,
 developing, general coordination, transition news and so on.

 Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki?
 I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue about what needs to
 be done.

Exactly! About development I propose to expose peoples, projects and
what is missing, an example:

critical new openmoko community core development:

*) FSO team is developing the middleware, they need c/vala experts, funding :)
*) Mirko is working on Paroli, help is needed to create a a good wifi
manager plugin
*) Angus is working on om2009, openembedded experts are welcome
*) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or donate
a debug board
*) Thomas, Andreas etc. is working on xorg glamo, drm/dri experts are welcome
*) xxx, yyy maintains the server infrastructure, gforge experts needed
...

other community development:

*) c_c is working on audio/video mediaplayer
*) xxx is working on bluetooth manager
*) yyy is adapting linphone UI for small devices
*) zzz and www is testing qlwm for arm and writing qt applications to
create a new and complete qt/x11 gui phone stack over fso, every qt
developer is welcome
*) xxx is working to support wpa2/enterprise in connman
*)  shr
*)  debian
*)  hackable:1
*)  neovento
*)  gentoo
*)  qtmoko/qtimproved

We need discussion boards too:

*) how to use better the aux and power buttons
*) killing freezed x11 fullscreen applications
*) the wanted systray support
*) windows manager status
*) x11 server over qtimproved
*) improving the user interaction with accelerometers
*) long term architecture for om2010
...

The same for other tasks, there are few human resources, we need
organization and coordination.

Regards

Nicola

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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-19 Thread Jan Vlug




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On 06/19/2009 07:51 PM, Nicola Mfb wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM,
Gerald Ageraldabli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb
nicola@gmail.com wrote:
 The community transition should be announced with an
help call for every
 kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering
servers,
 developing, general coordination, transition news and so
on.
 Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki?
 I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue
about what needs to
 be done.

 Exactly! About development I propose to expose peoples, projects
and
 what is missing, an example:

 critical "new openmoko community" core development:

 *) FSO team is developing the middleware, they need c/vala
experts, funding :)
 *) Mirko is working on Paroli, help is needed to create a a good
wifi
 manager plugin
 *) Angus is working on om2009, openembedded experts are welcome
 *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or
donate
 a debug board
 *) Thomas, Andreas etc. is working on xorg glamo, drm/dri
experts are welcome
 *) xxx, yyy maintains the server infrastructure, gforge experts
needed
 ...

 other community development:

 *) c_c is working on audio/video mediaplayer
 *) xxx is working on bluetooth manager
 *) yyy is adapting linphone UI for small devices
 *) zzz and www is testing qlwm for arm and writing qt
applications to
 create a new and complete qt/x11 gui phone stack over fso, every
qt
 developer is welcome
 *) xxx is working to support wpa2/enterprise in connman
 *) "" shr
 *) "" debian
 *) "" hackable:1
 *) "" neovento
 *) "" gentoo
 *) "" qtmoko/qtimproved

 We need discussion boards too:

 *) how to use better the aux and power buttons
 *) killing freezed x11 fullscreen applications
 *) the wanted systray support
 *) windows manager status
 *) x11 server over qtimproved
 *) improving the user interaction with accelerometers
 *) long term architecture for om2010
 ...

 The same for other tasks, there are few human resources, we need
 organization and coordination.



I fully agree, this kind of information is very difficult to find. I
think providing this information might increase confidence that the
community is alive. Personally, I'm curious who are the people that
are doing development, or whatever for the Openmoko project. I'm
wondering whether people are employed by Openmoko, sponsored or
hacking away in their free time. Updating this page is probably a good
start: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who

I encourage the developers/maintainers/contributors of the different
distributions to elaborate a little bit about the latest developments
in the community updates. It's quite difficult to get an idea of the
maturity/liveliness of the different distributions.

Thanks to all who is contributing to the Openmoko community!

Jan.
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YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-18 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi!

OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks
like that also the releasing of Community Updates
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped
(actually the 'news' link has been removed from wiki main navigation).
So we have to do it. I think it's vital for the community to have some
kind of newsletter that allows one to have a quick look at what's
happened, if you don't follow the mailing lists and IRC daily.

I started the draft page here for the next updates:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009
Please add there everything that's happened since May 22nd.

Adding news

   1. Don't trust that someone else will add it, add it yourself and
make it clean
   2. Add links to blog posts, applications, mailing list posts that
you think are worth to announce to the whole community

Releasing

   1. If it's The Release Date and you notice the news has not been
released, DO IT! Don't trust that someone else will do it for you.
   2. When you release, move the content of Talk: page to the actual wikipage.
   3. Add a link to the released update page to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates
   4. Prepare the draft page for the next community news: captions,
dates etc.. Releasing news on Thursdays every two weeks sound's good
to me.
   5. Send a post to the community mailing list with the link to the
released news and the draft of the next news.

The rules are also at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates#Rules_for_community_updates



r (hey, I just started this again, don't trust me to push it any
further, do it yourself :D

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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-18 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 Hi!

 OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks
 like that also the releasing of Community Updates
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped
 (actually the 'news' link has been removed from wiki main navigation).


 So we have to do it. I think it's vital for the community to have some
 kind of newsletter that allows one to have a quick look at what's
 happened, if you don't follow the mailing lists and IRC daily.
 [...]


I think we should think to change the front page of wiki too.
The community transition should be announced with an help call for every
kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers,
developing, general coordination, transition news and so on.
It seems all is stopped now, but I really think that somethings are moving
in the underground, many people that now are only observing and waiting may
be attracted.
P.s. why was the news link removed?

  Nicola
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Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again

2009-06-18 Thread Ken Young
Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 I started the draft page here for the next updates:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009
 Please add there everything that's happened since May 22nd.

Thanks very much for picking up the ball on this, Risto.   I agree that
the Community Updates are one of the most important features of the
wiki.   If they stop coming out, the project will really look
moribund.

Ken Young


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