Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
snip *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or donate a debug board snip Please contact me, I will donate this debug board. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: Exactly! About development I propose to expose peoples, projects and what is missing, an example: critical new openmoko community core development: *) FSO team is developing the middleware, they need c/vala experts, funding :) *) Mirko is working on Paroli, help is needed to create a a good wifi manager plugin *) Angus is working on om2009, openembedded experts are welcome *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or donate a debug board *) Thomas, Andreas etc. is working on xorg glamo, drm/dri experts are welcome *) xxx, yyy maintains the server infrastructure, gforge experts needed ... other community development: *) c_c is working on audio/video mediaplayer *) xxx is working on bluetooth manager *) yyy is adapting linphone UI for small devices *) zzz and www is testing qlwm for arm and writing qt applications to create a new and complete qt/x11 gui phone stack over fso, every qt developer is welcome *) xxx is working to support wpa2/enterprise in connman *) shr *) debian *) hackable:1 *) neovento *) gentoo *) qtmoko/qtimproved We need discussion boards too: *) how to use better the aux and power buttons *) killing freezed x11 fullscreen applications *) the wanted systray support *) windows manager status *) x11 server over qtimproved *) improving the user interaction with accelerometers *) long term architecture for om2010 ... The same for other tasks, there are few human resources, we need organization and coordination. I am just another casual Freerunner user having lurked on the list long enough now. I feel like we need a solid single point of contact for all device owners and interested people. Our wiki is a good starting point, but still everything seems a little bit messy to me. While the software is getting better and better every day I agree with others that it's time to improve the organizational part as well. I felt free to add the points proposed by Nicola to the Community Transition Page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_transition ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped (actually the 'news' link has been removed from wiki main navigation). Brenda Wang wrote: Two days ago, I read the documentation list, there's some request about the link of wiki side bar. So I removed the news' link from wiki main navigation two days ago. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2943035|a2952101 I will add it back when next updates released. Regards Brenda Wang So we have to do it. I think it's vital for the community to have some kind of newsletter that allows one to have a quick look at what's happened, if you don't follow the mailing lists and IRC daily. I started the draft page here for the next updates: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009 Please add there everything that's happened since May 22nd. Adding news 1. Don't trust that someone else will add it, add it yourself and make it clean 2. Add links to blog posts, applications, mailing list posts that you think are worth to announce to the whole community Releasing 1. If it's The Release Date and you notice the news has not been released, DO IT! Don't trust that someone else will do it for you. 2. When you release, move the content of Talk: page to the actual wikipage. 3. Add a link to the released update page to http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates 4. Prepare the draft page for the next community news: captions, dates etc.. Releasing news on Thursdays every two weeks sound's good to me. 5. Send a post to the community mailing list with the link to the released news and the draft of the next news. The rules are also at http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates#Rules_for_community_updates r (hey, I just started this again, don't trust me to push it any further, do it yourself :D -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/YOUR-action-is-needed-to-get-the-Community-Updates-up---running-again-tp3115540p3120449.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped Hooray! It's less than a year sine the FR commercial release and it's already abandonware! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/YOUR-action-is-needed-to-get-the-Community-Updates-up---running-again-tp3115540p3120549.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: The community transition should be announced with an help call for every kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers, developing, general coordination, transition news and so on. Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki? I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue about what needs to be done. I'd even post a list to the wiki, if I knew what needed to be done. Gerald. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 17:59, Gothnetopenm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped Hooray! It's less than a year sine the FR commercial release and it's already abandonware! I don't think Openmoko support is really needed, and I would not call FR abandonware. More - it's now better than even before (SHR), and it looks it will be much better than now in near future (Cornucopia). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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VERY GOOD IDEA INDEED! thanks risto d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Gerald Ageraldabli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: The community transition should be announced with an help call for every kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers, developing, general coordination, transition news and so on. Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki? I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue about what needs to be done. Exactly! About development I propose to expose peoples, projects and what is missing, an example: critical new openmoko community core development: *) FSO team is developing the middleware, they need c/vala experts, funding :) *) Mirko is working on Paroli, help is needed to create a a good wifi manager plugin *) Angus is working on om2009, openembedded experts are welcome *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or donate a debug board *) Thomas, Andreas etc. is working on xorg glamo, drm/dri experts are welcome *) xxx, yyy maintains the server infrastructure, gforge experts needed ... other community development: *) c_c is working on audio/video mediaplayer *) xxx is working on bluetooth manager *) yyy is adapting linphone UI for small devices *) zzz and www is testing qlwm for arm and writing qt applications to create a new and complete qt/x11 gui phone stack over fso, every qt developer is welcome *) xxx is working to support wpa2/enterprise in connman *) shr *) debian *) hackable:1 *) neovento *) gentoo *) qtmoko/qtimproved We need discussion boards too: *) how to use better the aux and power buttons *) killing freezed x11 fullscreen applications *) the wanted systray support *) windows manager status *) x11 server over qtimproved *) improving the user interaction with accelerometers *) long term architecture for om2010 ... The same for other tasks, there are few human resources, we need organization and coordination. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/19/2009 07:51 PM, Nicola Mfb wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Gerald Ageraldabli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: The community transition should be announced with an help call for every kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers, developing, general coordination, transition news and so on. Maybe we could start a TODO list somewhere on the Wiki? I'm sure lots of people could help, but they need a clue about what needs to be done. Exactly! About development I propose to expose peoples, projects and what is missing, an example: critical "new openmoko community" core development: *) FSO team is developing the middleware, they need c/vala experts, funding :) *) Mirko is working on Paroli, help is needed to create a a good wifi manager plugin *) Angus is working on om2009, openembedded experts are welcome *) Nelson, Luca, etc. is working on kernel, some guru needed or donate a debug board *) Thomas, Andreas etc. is working on xorg glamo, drm/dri experts are welcome *) xxx, yyy maintains the server infrastructure, gforge experts needed ... other community development: *) c_c is working on audio/video mediaplayer *) xxx is working on bluetooth manager *) yyy is adapting linphone UI for small devices *) zzz and www is testing qlwm for arm and writing qt applications to create a new and complete qt/x11 gui phone stack over fso, every qt developer is welcome *) xxx is working to support wpa2/enterprise in connman *) "" shr *) "" debian *) "" hackable:1 *) "" neovento *) "" gentoo *) "" qtmoko/qtimproved We need discussion boards too: *) how to use better the aux and power buttons *) killing freezed x11 fullscreen applications *) the wanted systray support *) windows manager status *) x11 server over qtimproved *) improving the user interaction with accelerometers *) long term architecture for om2010 ... The same for other tasks, there are few human resources, we need organization and coordination. I fully agree, this kind of information is very difficult to find. I think providing this information might increase confidence that the community is alive. Personally, I'm curious who are the people that are doing development, or whatever for the Openmoko project. I'm wondering whether people are employed by Openmoko, sponsored or hacking away in their free time. Updating this page is probably a good start: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who I encourage the developers/maintainers/contributors of the different distributions to elaborate a little bit about the latest developments in the community updates. It's quite difficult to get an idea of the maturity/liveliness of the different distributions. Thanks to all who is contributing to the Openmoko community! Jan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAko7/msACgkQvuFuLCp9giA8GgCg68eQzehhWh1qOJZAeoFiR8Tm 0wgAoMzgBHjS2PvPFzZezKYtneQkmrT9 =uq+e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped (actually the 'news' link has been removed from wiki main navigation). So we have to do it. I think it's vital for the community to have some kind of newsletter that allows one to have a quick look at what's happened, if you don't follow the mailing lists and IRC daily. I started the draft page here for the next updates: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009 Please add there everything that's happened since May 22nd. Adding news 1. Don't trust that someone else will add it, add it yourself and make it clean 2. Add links to blog posts, applications, mailing list posts that you think are worth to announce to the whole community Releasing 1. If it's The Release Date and you notice the news has not been released, DO IT! Don't trust that someone else will do it for you. 2. When you release, move the content of Talk: page to the actual wikipage. 3. Add a link to the released update page to http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates 4. Prepare the draft page for the next community news: captions, dates etc.. Releasing news on Thursdays every two weeks sound's good to me. 5. Send a post to the community mailing list with the link to the released news and the draft of the next news. The rules are also at http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates#Rules_for_community_updates r (hey, I just started this again, don't trust me to push it any further, do it yourself :D -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped (actually the 'news' link has been removed from wiki main navigation). So we have to do it. I think it's vital for the community to have some kind of newsletter that allows one to have a quick look at what's happened, if you don't follow the mailing lists and IRC daily. [...] I think we should think to change the front page of wiki too. The community transition should be announced with an help call for every kind of task, testing, writing docs, wiki, administering servers, developing, general coordination, transition news and so on. It seems all is stopped now, but I really think that somethings are moving in the underground, many people that now are only observing and waiting may be attracted. P.s. why was the news link removed? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: I started the draft page here for the next updates: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009 Please add there everything that's happened since May 22nd. Thanks very much for picking up the ball on this, Risto. I agree that the Community Updates are one of the most important features of the wiki. If they stop coming out, the project will really look moribund. Ken Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community