Re: community Digest, Vol 11, Issue 32: Re: keyboard, please! (Wil Chung)
I think I've had a change of heart. Ted Lemon and Joe Pfeiffer (and maybe others? I don't really know how to use these mailing lists well.) pointed out that a folding, separate keyboard could be the way to go. After a bit of thought, I decided they're right. Keep the phone just the way it is. For the kind of writing I do, which isn't text messaging, I'd be much better off with a proper keyboard. And when I just want to use it as a phone, it's nice for it to be sleeker and lighter. So, now, the request becomes: please make sure the phone interfaces with those nice thinkoutside.com keyboards. :-} quixote. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
keyboard, please!
I'm a (future) user, and this phone is what I've been waiting for in so many ways. Except one. No option to buy one with a qwerty keyboard. Please, please, please re-think that. I have to do a lot of writing and emailing while away from my main computer, and the lack of a keyboard is a showstopper for me. I remember seeing one earlier comment on the same topic from someone who does a lot of text messaging. A *lot* of people are using phones as stand-ins for computers, and a keyboard is essential for that. It could be relatively easy to add a keyboard if it was simply an added hinged component, i.e. you had much the same shape, but it would be twice as thick (and heavy) for those of us desperate to have keyboards, and it would open on the long side, like the LG9800 or the ROAD phone. How do other people feel about this? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keyboard, please!
ti, 2007-01-23 kello 08:37 -0800, quixote kirjoitti: I'm a (future) user, and this phone is what I've been waiting for in so many ways. Except one. No option to buy one with a qwerty keyboard. Please, please, please re-think that. [...] How do other people feel about this? I feel that it is futile at this point to ask for them to re-think nontrivial design issues. What would be less futile is to make it a wishlist item for future OpenMoko phones, which I'm pretty sure it is already. Hopefully there will, in the future, be enough demand for a variety of different models to be economically feasible. That said, I'd also like a keyboard. I'll probably buy one, too, since the phone does have BT, and there are small BT keyboards on the market. (Incidentally, I do hope the default apps take into account that there may be a keyboard present in addition to the touchscreen.) -- Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Helsinki ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
No problem - connect it via USB or Bluetooth Re: keyboard, please!
Salve quixote! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, quixote wrote: It could be relatively easy to add a keyboard if it was simply an added hinged component, i.e. you had much the same shape, but it would be twice as thick (and heavy) for those of us desperate to have keyboards, and it would open on the long side, like the LG9800 or the ROAD phone. How do other people feel about this? I'm very happy that it hasn't one because too small keyboards are useless! With keystroking you could reach spead that beats normal 1-finger searching the right key system writer. And to write quick with 10 fingers the keyboard need to be bigger than 15 cm: There are cheap and ligthwight USB keyboards that you can add when you have to write more text... and via bluetooth it will be maybe not so secure - but wireless :)) But I expect that with the multitouch screen newer and better/faster text input will be possible. Greetings, rob (vim,mutt,elinks user) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keyboard, please!
I wouldn't add a keyboard, but a Bluetooth one. So, I would prefer decent bluetooth support for keyboards and international keys layouts, or even creating custom layouts. Best regards, 2007/1/23, quixote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm a (future) user, and this phone is what I've been waiting for in so many ways. Except one. No option to buy one with a qwerty keyboard. Please, please, please re-think that. I have to do a lot of writing and emailing while away from my main computer, and the lack of a keyboard is a showstopper for me. I remember seeing one earlier comment on the same topic from someone who does a lot of text messaging. A *lot* of people are using phones as stand-ins for computers, and a keyboard is essential for that. It could be relatively easy to add a keyboard if it was simply an added hinged component, i.e. you had much the same shape, but it would be twice as thick (and heavy) for those of us desperate to have keyboards, and it would open on the long side, like the LG9800 or the ROAD phone. How do other people feel about this? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keyboard, please!
I actually rather like having just the touchscreen. It means that the keyboard isn't there when I don't need it when I'm viewing my applications. I suppose part of the reason is because I still hunt and peck on my cell phone, so I'm looking at the keypad anyway, so I don't care for tacile feel of the keyboard. I think there are ways around it, if that's the only reason people like having keyboards. For keyboard users, is it the pain of having to learn something other than what you're use to? I imagine if a new computer came out without a keyboard, I'd probably be somewhat against it too. I vote for touchscreen interfaces only, and feel that openmoko is going in the right direction w/ the current design. Wilhelm On 1/23/07, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ti, 2007-01-23 kello 08:37 -0800, quixote kirjoitti: I'm a (future) user, and this phone is what I've been waiting for in so many ways. Except one. No option to buy one with a qwerty keyboard. Please, please, please re-think that. [...] How do other people feel about this? I feel that it is futile at this point to ask for them to re-think nontrivial design issues. What would be less futile is to make it a wishlist item for future OpenMoko phones, which I'm pretty sure it is already. Hopefully there will, in the future, be enough demand for a variety of different models to be economically feasible. That said, I'd also like a keyboard. I'll probably buy one, too, since the phone does have BT, and there are small BT keyboards on the market. (Incidentally, I do hope the default apps take into account that there may be a keyboard present in addition to the touchscreen.) -- Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Helsinki ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- annolog: http://outandabout.fillthepages.com/ create your own annolog: http://www.annologger.com tech blog: http://webjazz.blogspot.com home base: http://www.3cglabs.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keyboard, please!
On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:37 AM, quixote wrote: How do other people feel about this? I think it'd be a nice variant, but I'm glad it's not in the base model. Bear in mind that there are some bitchen' bluetooth keyboards out there, like the ThinkOutside stowaway sierra. Depending on your application this may or may not work - it's not so handy for just pulling the phone out of your pocket and IMing someone. But for any serious typing, it's going to be a lot nicer, and a lot less likely to give you RSI injuries to your thumbs. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keyboard, please!
Subject: Re: keyboard, please! Date: Tue 23 Jan 07 11:14:30AM -0600 Quoting Wil Chung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I vote for touchscreen interfaces only, and feel that openmoko is going in the right direction w/ the current design. We keyboard fans have been told on this list that in Q3-Q4 there will be pleasant surprises for us... Would FIC wish to lose all karma points in one go? ;-) Carlo -- * Se la Strada e la sua Virtu' non fossero state messe da parte, * K * Carlo E. Prelz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] che bisogno ci sarebbe * di parlare tanto di amore e di rettitudine? (Chuang-Tzu) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keyboard, please!
Haha. Well, I'd be interested to see how FIC pleases both crowds. Two separate models seem expensive to develop and design. Perhaps not? We'll have to wait til Q3/4 then. Wilhelm On 1/23/07, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: keyboard, please! Date: Tue 23 Jan 07 11:14:30AM -0600 Quoting Wil Chung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I vote for touchscreen interfaces only, and feel that openmoko is going in the right direction w/ the current design. We keyboard fans have been told on this list that in Q3-Q4 there will be pleasant surprises for us... Would FIC wish to lose all karma points in one go? ;-) Carlo -- * Se la Strada e la sua Virtu' non fossero state messe da parte, * K * Carlo E. Prelz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] che bisogno ci sarebbe * di parlare tanto di amore e di rettitudine? (Chuang-Tzu) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- annolog: http://outandabout.fillthepages.com/ create your own annolog: http://www.annologger.com tech blog: http://webjazz.blogspot.com home base: http://www.3cglabs.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
