Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
Serge My understanding of board responsibility is that it's collective. The only place/time I see where individual board members are held accountable is during AGMs where members/shareholders vote to retain or replace board members. It's possible that there is a better way of evaluating individual board members but haven't come across one yet..:-) Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad > On 22 Dec 2015, at 8:31 PM, serge ilunga wrote: > > +1 Ali , > Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization. > In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan. > This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the metric > to evaluate BOD members performance. > Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single BOD > member while their terms don't start at the same time? > > > Kind Regards. > >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein wrote: >> Hi All >> >> I have just recently joined the list and have been following the discussions >> on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too early for me >> to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make. >> >> Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's goals >> as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and >> Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe >> Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is >> meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above. >> >> Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they >> public documents we can access? >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what >> no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins wrote: >>> >>> The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing. >>> Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members. >>> >>> >>> >>> There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the >>> Membership to correct their errors. >>> >>> I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good. >>> >>>> On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote: >>>> the board sucks >>>> >>>> From: Owen DeLong [o...@delong.com] >>>> Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50 >>>> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC >>>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board >>>> >>>> As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting >>>> members who can >>>> choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) >>>> remove a member >>>> if it is necessary. >>>> >>>> The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to >>>> each voter >>>> to determine for his/her self and I don’t see any reason this should be >>>> different for AfriNIC. >>>> >>>> I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board >>>> and that >>>> there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should >>>> consider when >>>> making their votes. >>>> >>>> Owen >>>> >>>>> On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of >>>>> check and balance that make this system work >>>>> >>>>> - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) >>>>> >>>>> who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at >>>>> large
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
+1 On 12/23/15, 10:46 AM, "Ali Hussein" wrote: Serge There are tools available to do this from a single board member to the collective. The important thing to note though is that the evaluation must come from an informed premise of what the goals were. Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 On Dec 22, 2015 8:32 PM, "serge ilunga" wrote: +1 Ali , Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization. In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan. This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the metric to evaluate BOD members performance. Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time? Kind Regards. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein wrote: Hi All I have just recently joined the list and have been following the discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make. Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above. Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they public documents we can access? Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins wrote: The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing. Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members. There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the Membership to correct their errors. I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good. On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote: the board sucks From: Owen DeLong [o...@delong.com] Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting members who can choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) remove a member if it is necessary. The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to each voter to determine for his/her self and I don’t see any reason this should be different for AfriNIC. I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board and that there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should consider when making their votes. Owen On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg wrote: i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of check and balance that make this system work - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at large? I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in hand. thoughts? -- Borg le Chevalier ___ "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat" ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss -- Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa m...@posix.co.za Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496 For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
Serge There are tools available to do this from a single board member to the collective. The important thing to note though is that the evaluation must come from an informed premise of what the goals were. Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 On Dec 22, 2015 8:32 PM, "serge ilunga" wrote: > +1 Ali , > Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization. > In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan. > This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the > metric to evaluate BOD members performance. > Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single > BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time? > > > Kind Regards. > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> I have just recently joined the list and have been following the >> discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too >> early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make. >> >> Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's >> goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and >> Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe >> Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is >> meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above. >> >> Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they >> public documents we can access? >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins wrote: >> >> The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing. >> Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members. >> >> >> >> There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the >> Membership to correct their errors. >> >> I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good. >> >> On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote: >> >> the board sucks >> >> >> >> From: Owen DeLong [o...@delong.com] >> >> Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50 >> >> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC >> >> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic >> board >> >> >> As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting >> members who can >> >> choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) >> remove a member >> >> if it is necessary. >> >> >> The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up >> to each voter >> >> to determine for his/her self and I don’t see any reason this should be >> different for AfriNIC. >> >> >> I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the >> board and that >> >> there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should >> consider when >> >> making their votes. >> >> >> Owen >> >> >> On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg >> wrote: >> >> >> i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of >> >> check and balance that make this system work >> >> >> - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) >> >> >> who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at >> large? >> >> I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a >> >> board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its >> >> self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should >> >> we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance >> >> committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in >> >> hand. >> >> >> thoughts? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Borg le Chevalier >> >> ___ >&
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
On Dec 22, 2015 18:32, "serge ilunga" wrote: > > +1 Ali , > Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization. > In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan. > SO: Organisation strategy is operational and its within the scope of staff (CEO) to develop, while the board exercise oversight at determining if the strategy is consistent with the organisation's goals and also carrying out periodic review of progress made in the implementation of the strategy. I think there was a 5 years strategic plan shared few years ago, but can't seem to find it on the section of website I expected it will be: http://afrinic.net/en/library/corporate-documents I expect new strategic plan for next couple of years would be in the making by now. Perhaps we will be seeing something at the next meeting. > This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the metric to evaluate BOD members performance. > SO: I guess one of the ways performance of the board [can be]/is evaluated is through the organisation's reports (annual report, audit report, periodic staff management reports etc). Checking how those reports are align/consistent with the strategic plan could be a basis for evaluation. > Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time? > SO: Usually the board would be in the best position to make this evaluation as they would know who is performing or not. To the community, we see the board as a team, so for example because someone is vocal does not usually mean he/she is most performing within board. They are all expected to have different skills/strength. As you know, the board as per bylaw is empowered to discipline/sanction any board member not performing even up to removal if necessary. That said, public misconduct/action of individual board is one thing that can be evaluated by the community and members can on that basis raise concern about a board member (with the option to remove if required) Overall, ultimate judgement is during election. Regards > > Kind Regards. > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein wrote: >> >> Hi All >> >> I have just recently joined the list and have been following the discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make. >> >> Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above. >> >> Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they public documents we can access? >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins wrote: >> >>> The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing. >>> Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members. >>> >>> >>> >>> There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the >>> Membership to correct their errors. >>> >>> I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good. >>> >>> On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote: >>>> >>>> the board sucks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Owen DeLong [o...@delong.com] >>>> >>>> Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50 >>>> >>>> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board >>>> >>>> >>>> As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting members who can >>>> >>>> choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) remove a member >>>> >>>> if it is necessary. >>>> >>>> >>>> The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to each v
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
+1 Ali , Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization. In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan. This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the metric to evaluate BOD members performance. Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time? Kind Regards. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein wrote: > Hi All > > I have just recently joined the list and have been following the > discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too > early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make. > > Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's > goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and > Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe > Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is > meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above. > > Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they > public documents we can access? > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins wrote: > > The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing. > Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members. > > > > There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the > Membership to correct their errors. > > I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good. > > On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote: > > the board sucks > > ________________________ > > From: Owen DeLong [o...@delong.com] > > Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50 > > To: General Discussions of AFRINIC > > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board > > > As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting > members who can > > choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) > remove a member > > if it is necessary. > > > The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to > each voter > > to determine for his/her self and I don’t see any reason this should be > different for AfriNIC. > > > I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board > and that > > there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should > consider when > > making their votes. > > > Owen > > > On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg > wrote: > > > i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of > > check and balance that make this system work > > > - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) > > > who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at > large? > > I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a > > board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its > > self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should > > we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance > > committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in > > hand. > > > thoughts? > > > > -- > > Borg le Chevalier > > ___ > > "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat" > > > ___ > > Community-Discuss mailing list > > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > > > ___ > > Community-Discuss mailing list > > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > > ___ > > Community-Discuss mailing list > > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > > -- > Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa > m...@posix.co.za Tel: +27.128
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
On 22 Dec 2015 01:15, "Keshwarsingh Nadan" wrote: > > the board sucks > Which board if you may? :-| Noah ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
Hi All I have just recently joined the list and have been following the discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make. Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above. Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they public documents we can access? Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad > On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins wrote: > > The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing. > Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members. > > > > There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the > Membership to correct their errors. > > I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good. > >> On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote: >> the board sucks >> >> From: Owen DeLong [o...@delong.com] >> Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50 >> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC >> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board >> >> As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting >> members who can >> choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) remove >> a member >> if it is necessary. >> >> The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to >> each voter >> to determine for his/her self and I don’t see any reason this should be >> different for AfriNIC. >> >> I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board >> and that >> there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should >> consider when >> making their votes. >> >> Owen >> >>> On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg >>> wrote: >>> >>> i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of >>> check and balance that make this system work >>> >>> - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) >>> >>> who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at >>> large? >>> I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a >>> board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its >>> self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should >>> we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance >>> committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in >>> hand. >>> >>> thoughts? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Borg le Chevalier >>> ___ >>> "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat" >>> >>> ___ >>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>> Community-Discuss@afrinic.net >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> >> >> ___ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> Community-Discuss@afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> >> ___ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> Community-Discuss@afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > -- > Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa > m...@posix.co.za Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496 > For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za > ___ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing. Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members. There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the Membership to correct their errors. I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good. On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote: > the board sucks > > From: Owen DeLong [o...@delong.com] > Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50 > To: General Discussions of AFRINIC > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board > > As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting > members who can > choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) remove > a member > if it is necessary. > > The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to > each voter > to determine for his/her self and I don’t see any reason this should be > different for AfriNIC. > > I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board > and that > there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should > consider when > making their votes. > > Owen > > > On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg > > wrote: > > > > i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of > > check and balance that make this system work > > > > - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) > > > > who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at > > large? > > I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a > > board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its > > self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should > > we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance > > committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in > > hand. > > > > thoughts? > > > > > > -- > > Borg le Chevalier > > ___ > > "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat" > > > > ___ > > Community-Discuss mailing list > > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > > ___ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > ___ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss -- Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa m...@posix.co.za Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496 For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
the board sucks From: Owen DeLong [o...@delong.com] Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting members who can choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) remove a member if it is necessary. The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to each voter to determine for his/her self and I don’t see any reason this should be different for AfriNIC. I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board and that there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should consider when making their votes. Owen > On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg wrote: > > i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of > check and balance that make this system work > > - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) > > who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at large? > I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a > board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its > self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should > we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance > committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in > hand. > > thoughts? > > > -- > Borg le Chevalier > ___ > "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat" > > ___ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting members who can choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) remove a member if it is necessary. The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to each voter to determine for his/her self and I don’t see any reason this should be different for AfriNIC. I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board and that there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should consider when making their votes. Owen > On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg wrote: > > i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of > check and balance that make this system work > > - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) > > who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at large? > I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a > board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its > self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should > we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance > committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in > hand. > > thoughts? > > > -- > Borg le Chevalier > ___ > "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat" > > ___ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
[Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of check and balance that make this system work - board check and balance ceo (and staff?) who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at large? I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in hand. thoughts? -- Borg le Chevalier ___ "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat" ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
