Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Joshua Shriver
Working on it :)

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:
 Thanks for connecting!

 Am 02.05.2015 um 08:11 schrieb remi.cou...@free.fr:

 Great! Thanks for your efforts. I have just connected Crazy Stone, and it
 seems to be working.

 My favorite setting would be 9x9 with 7-point komi. But unfortunately, I
 believe CGOS does not support jigo. Would be great if it did.

 I think you are right :(

 set sc [expr $sc - $komi]
 if { $sc  0.0 } {
 set sc [expr -$sc]
 set over W+$sc
 gameover $gid $over 
 return
 } else {
 set over B+$sc
 gameover $gid $over 
 return
 }

 This definitly looks like a jigo is not possible. I am afraid, I will
 probably not go into this. I still hope for a future CGOS replacement :)

 Detlef


 Rémi


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 De: Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de
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 Envoyé: Samedi 2 Mai 2015 14:21:05
 Objet: [Computer-go] CGOS

 Hi,

 I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
 optimal of cause :(

 physik.selfhost.eu

 Ports:
 8080 (webinterface)
 8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

 This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to
 have it permanently running still to be seen.
 I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set
 up everything correctly.
 I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
 machine

 future plan is:
 8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
 (you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
 switched on.


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread remi . coulom
Great! Thanks for your efforts. I have just connected Crazy Stone, and it seems 
to be working.

My favorite setting would be 9x9 with 7-point komi. But unfortunately, I 
believe CGOS does not support jigo. Would be great if it did.

Rémi


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De: Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de
À: computer-go@computer-go.org
Envoyé: Samedi 2 Mai 2015 14:21:05
Objet: [Computer-go] CGOS

Hi,

I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not 
optimal of cause :(

physik.selfhost.eu

Ports:
8080 (webinterface)
8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to 
have it permanently running still to be seen.
I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set 
up everything correctly.
I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same 
machine

future plan is:
8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
(you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are 
switched on.


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Erik van der Werf
Baseline for worst play? Why?

Paris Hilton??
Op 2 mei 2015 11:42 schreef folkert folk...@vanheusden.com:

 I'm running parishilton it now so that you have a baseline for the
 worst play.

 On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 07:21:05AM +0200, Detlef Schmicker wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
  optimal of cause :(
 
  physik.selfhost.eu
 
  Ports:
  8080 (webinterface)
  8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)
 
  This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to
 have
  it permanently running still to be seen.
  I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set up
  everything correctly.
  I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
  machine
 
  future plan is:
  8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
  (you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
  switched on.
 
 
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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread folkert
So that bad players are not getting 0 elo.

On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 11:59:17AM +0200, Erik van der Werf wrote:
 Baseline for worst play? Why?
 
 Paris Hilton??
 Op 2 mei 2015 11:42 schreef folkert folk...@vanheusden.com:
 
  I'm running parishilton it now so that you have a baseline for the
  worst play.
 
  On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 07:21:05AM +0200, Detlef Schmicker wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
   optimal of cause :(
  
   physik.selfhost.eu
  
   Ports:
   8080 (webinterface)
   8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)
  
   This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to
  have
   it permanently running still to be seen.
   I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set up
   everything correctly.
   I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
   machine
  
   future plan is:
   8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
   (you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
   switched on.
  
  
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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Joshua Shriver
Forgot to mention there is another table called anchors.  Basically it
just has gnugo and set to (1800?) if memory serves.  This gets used in
bayeselo for comparison calculations.

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Detlef Schmicker

Great,

for the mean time: Do you have an idea, how the bayeselo rating is 
produced? My cgos source does not seem to include it?


The archives are probably a hand made script?!

Detlef

Am 02.05.2015 um 09:25 schrieb Joshua Shriver:

Working on it :)

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:

Thanks for connecting!

Am 02.05.2015 um 08:11 schrieb remi.cou...@free.fr:

Great! Thanks for your efforts. I have just connected Crazy Stone, and it
seems to be working.

My favorite setting would be 9x9 with 7-point komi. But unfortunately, I
believe CGOS does not support jigo. Would be great if it did.

I think you are right :(

set sc [expr $sc - $komi]
 if { $sc  0.0 } {
 set sc [expr -$sc]
 set over W+$sc
 gameover $gid $over 
 return
 } else {
 set over B+$sc
 gameover $gid $over 
 return
 }

This definitly looks like a jigo is not possible. I am afraid, I will
probably not go into this. I still hope for a future CGOS replacement :)

Detlef


Rémi


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De: Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de
À: computer-go@computer-go.org
Envoyé: Samedi 2 Mai 2015 14:21:05
Objet: [Computer-go] CGOS

Hi,

I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
optimal of cause :(

physik.selfhost.eu

Ports:
8080 (webinterface)
8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to
have it permanently running still to be seen.
I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set
up everything correctly.
I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
machine

future plan is:
8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
(you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
switched on.


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread folkert
I'm running parishilton it now so that you have a baseline for the
worst play.

On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 07:21:05AM +0200, Detlef Schmicker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
 optimal of cause :(
 
 physik.selfhost.eu
 
 Ports:
 8080 (webinterface)
 8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)
 
 This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to have
 it permanently running still to be seen.
 I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set up
 everything correctly.
 I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
 machine
 
 future plan is:
 8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
 (you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
 switched on.
 
 
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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Joshua Shriver
If you're using the github source for CGOS, (Don's)  CGOS uses an
external program. Basically dumps all games from the database, runs
bayeselo takes results and pushes back to the sqlite for the official
rating. But it doesn't seem to always work or update properly and if
the DB gets messed up on update it seems to mess up the cgos server
itself. This was one big reason I've had trouble getting 9x9 and 19x19
back up.

I'll have to check the crontab but it should show a tcl script that
fires off a sqlite3 dump and feeds bayeselo.
Did you make any changes to the git source to get it to run ok?
-Josh

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:
 Great,

 for the mean time: Do you have an idea, how the bayeselo rating is produced?
 My cgos source does not seem to include it?

 The archives are probably a hand made script?!

 Detlef

 Am 02.05.2015 um 09:25 schrieb Joshua Shriver:

 Working on it :)

 On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:

 Thanks for connecting!

 Am 02.05.2015 um 08:11 schrieb remi.cou...@free.fr:

 Great! Thanks for your efforts. I have just connected Crazy Stone, and
 it
 seems to be working.

 My favorite setting would be 9x9 with 7-point komi. But unfortunately, I
 believe CGOS does not support jigo. Would be great if it did.

 I think you are right :(

 set sc [expr $sc - $komi]
  if { $sc  0.0 } {
  set sc [expr -$sc]
  set over W+$sc
  gameover $gid $over 
  return
  } else {
  set over B+$sc
  gameover $gid $over 
  return
  }

 This definitly looks like a jigo is not possible. I am afraid, I will
 probably not go into this. I still hope for a future CGOS replacement
 :)

 Detlef

 Rémi


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 De: Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de
 À: computer-go@computer-go.org
 Envoyé: Samedi 2 Mai 2015 14:21:05
 Objet: [Computer-go] CGOS

 Hi,

 I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
 optimal of cause :(

 physik.selfhost.eu

 Ports:
 8080 (webinterface)
 8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

 This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to
 have it permanently running still to be seen.
 I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set
 up everything correctly.
 I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
 machine

 future plan is:
 8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
 (you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
 switched on.


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Detlef Schmicker

Thanks for connecting!

Am 02.05.2015 um 08:11 schrieb remi.cou...@free.fr:

Great! Thanks for your efforts. I have just connected Crazy Stone, and it seems 
to be working.

My favorite setting would be 9x9 with 7-point komi. But unfortunately, I 
believe CGOS does not support jigo. Would be great if it did.

I think you are right :(

set sc [expr $sc - $komi]
if { $sc  0.0 } {
set sc [expr -$sc]
set over W+$sc
gameover $gid $over 
return
} else {
set over B+$sc
gameover $gid $over 
return
}

This definitly looks like a jigo is not possible. I am afraid, I will 
probably not go into this. I still hope for a future CGOS replacement :)


Detlef



Rémi


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De: Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de
À: computer-go@computer-go.org
Envoyé: Samedi 2 Mai 2015 14:21:05
Objet: [Computer-go] CGOS

Hi,

I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
optimal of cause :(

physik.selfhost.eu

Ports:
8080 (webinterface)
8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to
have it permanently running still to be seen.
I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set
up everything correctly.
I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
machine

future plan is:
8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
(you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
switched on.


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Detlef Schmicker

8084 for 25x25 with GnuGo 3.8 as ELO 1800 anachor is up for a while now :)

9x9 too, (13x13 I will not set up, original cgos is running fine on 13x13)

Detlef

Am 02.05.2015 um 07:21 schrieb Detlef Schmicker:

Hi,

I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is 
not optimal of cause :(


physik.selfhost.eu

Ports:
8080 (webinterface)
8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to 
have it permanently running still to be seen.
I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set 
up everything correctly.
I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the 
same machine


future plan is:
8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
(you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes 
are switched on.



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[Computer-go] May KGS bot tournament

2015-05-02 Thread Nick Wedd
Reminder - it's tomorrow. Only two entrants so far, I hope there are more
by tomorrow.

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Detlef Schmicker

OK, I will not set bayeselo for now, happy if basics are working:)

No, I did not change anything but the version number of sqlite3 (from 
3.3.4 to 3.3.5 or so), the version offered by ubuntu 12.04


Only changed the directories in the cgos19.cfg and  used SQLite Browser 
to open the cgos.state database (produced after the first start) and 
added the anachor in the anachor table.


Now I have 4 processes up: cgos, webbuild, anachor gnugo and a pyhton -m 
SimpleHTTPServer



Detlef

Am 02.05.2015 um 09:33 schrieb Joshua Shriver:

If you're using the github source for CGOS, (Don's)  CGOS uses an
external program. Basically dumps all games from the database, runs
bayeselo takes results and pushes back to the sqlite for the official
rating. But it doesn't seem to always work or update properly and if
the DB gets messed up on update it seems to mess up the cgos server
itself. This was one big reason I've had trouble getting 9x9 and 19x19
back up.

I'll have to check the crontab but it should show a tcl script that
fires off a sqlite3 dump and feeds bayeselo.
Did you make any changes to the git source to get it to run ok?
-Josh

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:

Great,

for the mean time: Do you have an idea, how the bayeselo rating is produced?
My cgos source does not seem to include it?

The archives are probably a hand made script?!

Detlef

Am 02.05.2015 um 09:25 schrieb Joshua Shriver:

Working on it :)

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:

Thanks for connecting!

Am 02.05.2015 um 08:11 schrieb remi.cou...@free.fr:

Great! Thanks for your efforts. I have just connected Crazy Stone, and
it
seems to be working.

My favorite setting would be 9x9 with 7-point komi. But unfortunately, I
believe CGOS does not support jigo. Would be great if it did.

I think you are right :(

set sc [expr $sc - $komi]
  if { $sc  0.0 } {
  set sc [expr -$sc]
  set over W+$sc
  gameover $gid $over 
  return
  } else {
  set over B+$sc
  gameover $gid $over 
  return
  }

This definitly looks like a jigo is not possible. I am afraid, I will
probably not go into this. I still hope for a future CGOS replacement
:)

Detlef


Rémi


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De: Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de
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Envoyé: Samedi 2 Mai 2015 14:21:05
Objet: [Computer-go] CGOS

Hi,

I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
optimal of cause :(

physik.selfhost.eu

Ports:
8080 (webinterface)
8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to
have it permanently running still to be seen.
I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set
up everything correctly.
I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
machine

future plan is:
8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
(you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
switched on.


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita

I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns,


Thanks!
I could start Aya.
http://physik.selfhost.eu:8080/19x19/standings.html

By the way, 

different winrates against aya_1k and fuego_10k or pachi_10k, 


This seems it was just unlucky against pachi and fuego.
I stop them. Thank you for running.

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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Joshua Shriver
Would you be willing to help me revitalize cgos.computergo.org?  I can
even give you ssh access.

This we your server can sit on a dedicated IP/domain  and we can kinda
refresh things a bit and have a clean work/server space.

Just let me know.
-Josh

I'm still curious how you got around the myriad of SQLite issues. I
know when I tried running local, I had to repackage the tclkit server
by copying a local built sqlite.so. file
Lots of kinks and issues, but to be honest you are doing a better job
at me at understanding/running it.

So I can at least offer dedicated space.

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:
 8084 for 25x25 with GnuGo 3.8 as ELO 1800 anachor is up for a while now :)

 9x9 too, (13x13 I will not set up, original cgos is running fine on 13x13)

 Detlef

 Am 02.05.2015 um 07:21 schrieb Detlef Schmicker:

 Hi,

 I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
 optimal of cause :(

 physik.selfhost.eu

 Ports:
 8080 (webinterface)
 8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

 This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to have
 it permanently running still to be seen.
 I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set up
 everything correctly.
 I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
 machine

 future plan is:
 8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
 (you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
 switched on.


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Re: [Computer-go] CGOS

2015-05-02 Thread Joshua Shriver
Also how good are you and un-tcl packing and rebuilding?  Would LOVE
to have native packages with the cgos.computergo.org hard coded if
possible.
Anyway would love to work with you.

Side note, any OS X people here willing in the future to make OS X
client/view compiles from the future github? If we can get/KEEP the
current TCL just working for 9x9/13x13/19x19 I'm all game for that
since it JUST worked.

I already have a github up for my new open source CGOS I'm writing,
but want to get 9,13,19 running smoothly and open as possible till
then.

-Josh


On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote:
 8084 for 25x25 with GnuGo 3.8 as ELO 1800 anachor is up for a while now :)

 9x9 too, (13x13 I will not set up, original cgos is running fine on 13x13)

 Detlef

 Am 02.05.2015 um 07:21 schrieb Detlef Schmicker:

 Hi,

 I set up a CGOS server at home. It is connected via dyndns, which is not
 optimal of cause :(

 physik.selfhost.eu

 Ports:
 8080 (webinterface)
 8083 (19x19, GnuGo 3.8 set to ELO 1800 as anachor)

 This is mainly for testing, if I get CGOS up correctly, what to do to have
 it permanently running still to be seen.
 I am not able to test the connection from the outside, hopefully I set up
 everything correctly.
 I might stop the server for the tournament on sunday, as it is the same
 machine

 future plan is:
 8081 for 9x9 8082 for 13x13 and 8084 for 25x25.
 (you will see on the web interface, as soon as the other boardsizes are
 switched on.


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