Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread Erik van der Werf

On 7/23/07, chrilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a Phd in statistics. But Bayesian methods were at that time a
non-topic. I know the general principles, but I want to learn a little bit
more about the latest developments in the field. Bayes is now chic, there
are many books about it. I assume also a lot of bad ones.
Can anyone recommend me a good state of the art book about Bayesian
inference. Should be somewhat in the applied direction, but also with a
sound mathematical background.

Chrilly


You could try something like:

Information Theory, Inference  Learning Algorithms
by David MacKay

or maybe

Data Analysis: A Bayesian Tutorial
by Devinderjit Sivia  John Skilling

Erik
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Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread Rémi Coulom

chrilly wrote:
I have a Phd in statistics. But Bayesian methods were at that time a 
non-topic. I know the general principles, but I want to learn a little 
bit more about the latest developments in the field. Bayes is now chic, 
there are many books about it. I assume also a lot of bad ones.
Can anyone recommend me a good state of the art book about Bayesian 
inference. Should be somewhat in the applied direction, but also with a 
sound mathematical background.


Chrilly
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I would suggest David MacKay's book, _Information Theory, Inference, and 
Learning Algorithms_

http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/itila/book.html
Table of contents:
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/itila/toc.html

I have not read it, but from what I have seen of it, I believe you may 
like it.


Wikipedia may also be a good starting point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_inference

Rémi
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Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread chrilly
Thanks, I did also a search on Amazon and these two looked the most 
interesting ones. I can order now with greater confidence.


Chrilly


You could try something like:

Information Theory, Inference  Learning Algorithms
by David MacKay

or maybe

Data Analysis: A Bayesian Tutorial
by Devinderjit Sivia  John Skilling

Erik
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Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread George Dahl

Don't forget that David MacKay's book can be downloaded free from his
site so you can see exactly what you are getting before you buy it.
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/itila/book.html
- George

On 7/23/07, chrilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks, I did also a search on Amazon and these two looked the most
interesting ones. I can order now with greater confidence.

Chrilly

 You could try something like:

 Information Theory, Inference  Learning Algorithms
 by David MacKay

 or maybe

 Data Analysis: A Bayesian Tutorial
 by Devinderjit Sivia  John Skilling

 Erik
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Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread Łukasz Lew

Absolutely the best book I've seen is:

Christopher M. Bishop
Pattern Recognition and Machine Learning

It's totally awesome!

Strong points:
- It have both Bayesian and non Bayesian ways explained
- the explanation is clear
- figures are so helpful (and aesthetic)
- it concentrates on prediction and classification and have
algorithmic perspective
  (contrary to MacKay's book)

There is a free chapter on graphical models:
http://research.microsoft.com/~cmbishop/PRML/Bishop-PRML-sample.pdf

Lukasz Lew

On 7/23/07, chrilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a Phd in statistics. But Bayesian methods were at that time a
non-topic. I know the general principles, but I want to learn a little bit
more about the latest developments in the field. Bayes is now chic, there
are many books about it. I assume also a lot of bad ones.
Can anyone recommend me a good state of the art book about Bayesian
inference. Should be somewhat in the applied direction, but also with a
sound mathematical background.

Chrilly

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Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread George Dahl

I own that book and can also recommend it.
- George

On 7/23/07, Łukasz Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Absolutely the best book I've seen is:

Christopher M. Bishop
Pattern Recognition and Machine Learning

It's totally awesome!

Strong points:
- It have both Bayesian and non Bayesian ways explained
- the explanation is clear
- figures are so helpful (and aesthetic)
- it concentrates on prediction and classification and have
algorithmic perspective
   (contrary to MacKay's book)

There is a free chapter on graphical models:
http://research.microsoft.com/~cmbishop/PRML/Bishop-PRML-sample.pdf

Lukasz Lew

On 7/23/07, chrilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a Phd in statistics. But Bayesian methods were at that time a
 non-topic. I know the general principles, but I want to learn a little
bit
 more about the latest developments in the field. Bayes is now chic,
there
 are many books about it. I assume also a lot of bad ones.
 Can anyone recommend me a good state of the art book about Bayesian
 inference. Should be somewhat in the applied direction, but also with a
 sound mathematical background.

 Chrilly

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Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread chrilly
I have the Neural Network Book from Bishop. It is also a good book. It puts 
Neural Nets into the proper statistical framework.

Chrilly
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  I own that book and can also recommend it.
  - George


  On 7/23/07, Łukasz Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Absolutely the best book I've seen is:

Christopher M. Bishop
Pattern Recognition and Machine Learning 

It's totally awesome!

Strong points:
- It have both Bayesian and non Bayesian ways explained
- the explanation is clear
- figures are so helpful (and aesthetic)
- it concentrates on prediction and classification and have 
algorithmic perspective
   (contrary to MacKay's book)

There is a free chapter on graphical models:
http://research.microsoft.com/~cmbishop/PRML/Bishop-PRML-sample.pdf 

Lukasz Lew

On 7/23/07, chrilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a Phd in statistics. But Bayesian methods were at that time a
 non-topic. I know the general principles, but I want to learn a little 
bit 
 more about the latest developments in the field. Bayes is now chic, there
 are many books about it. I assume also a lot of bad ones.
 Can anyone recommend me a good state of the art book about Bayesian 
 inference. Should be somewhat in the applied direction, but also with a
 sound mathematical background.

 Chrilly

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