Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
Just a note here. In terms of performance benchmarks I can build a desktop computer that will absolutely spank any of the laptops so far discussed for less than half the cost. We are not talking about the real benefits here because the question was relating to high end laptops, but I think that the focus of the thread should shift to what is the appropriate machine. The Alienware with outboard power supply weighs 18 pounds. That's not a laptop, it's a desktop replacement. And not a good choice. It is cool, but it doesn't make sense in this application. A laptop should be like my T41, light, strong, and good enough to do its job--mobile computing with good battery life. If I need to ride the train from New York to DC or take an airplane and still play games, I want a decent, affordable, capable and above all usable and effective platform. Not a chromium plated Cadillac. If I need super fast graphics and excellent performance in games I'll use my desktop, which is not exactly run of the mill. The two together cost less than one uber high end laptop, which does neither job efficiently. I know that the OP wants to do right, congratulations on the full academic scholarship, that's a real achievement. But this is not the time to go crazy. Wait until the next graduation for that :-). Rant over. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Now...what do I do?
This is what happened... Marcio At 11:28 AM 5/25/2007, you wrote: All kinds of problems are cleared by a re-boot. At 10:09 AM 5/25/2007, Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: >Yes, it is a working computer. But...guess what. This morning when I started the computer >After booting I tried again and the shelf opened out... > >Go guess... * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
The 1GB of video/graphics memory in either will do more for gaming than having more than 2 GB of RAM. If this is good for people who make and test games it should be good for the gamers. It varies, depending on the coding of the game in question. The AW uses NVIDIA SLI technology, with two GPUs each addressing 512 Mb of RAM. Some games like this a lot, some don't. So your mileage may vary depending on the application. It does almost always speed things up to some extent. The big problems with laptop graphics are power requirements and heat dissipation. Yes, you could put the equivalent of a high end desktop video subsystem into a laptop, but it wouldn't last long without liquid cooling and a BIG wall wart. Alienware does do pretty good with what's out there and practical, though. Battery life is 10 minutes (just kidding). * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
Suitable for Gaming (ideally advertised as a "gaming laptop") 17" screen Intel Core Duo processor 4GB RAM (of whatever flavor) Any other hardware requirement to support Aero Glass as well as can be hoped for given the shortcomings of the technology. Price no object? Dell XPS. The Alienware stuff won't do 4GB that I know of, 2GB is the max there. Aero Glass means Vista, I guess, but I can tell you as a gamer that there's no compelling reason to need DX10 at the moment, as no DX10 games have yet shipped. Another thing to keep in mind is that as of right now there is no mobile graphics card capable of taking advantage of DX10 anyway. Maxed out with a four year warranty and theft insurance, the Dell, which I "pretend configured" with Windows XP Pro, a carrying case and Office Professional, was $6000. The Thinkpad T60p similarly configured was about $4000, but has a 15" screen and not quite as good graphics hardware. I didn't see any Thinkpads with 17" screens, they tend to be more business type machines. But aesthetically they just look cooler :-). * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
Does it have to be Intel? http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora_m9700/aurora-m_overview.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AURORA-M-9700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT 2GB RAM, 1GB video - cyborg [neon] green, conspiracy [electric] blue, or saucer silver Unlimited budget? http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora_mALX/aurora-m_overview.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AURORA-M-ALX&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT The 1GB of video/graphics memory in either will do more for gaming than having more than 2 GB of RAM. If this is good for people who make and test games it should be good for the gamers. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
There is a specific gaming PC, that was acquired by a larger firm. I forgot the name, but its reputation has NOT suffered due to the acquisition. I have been using an HP professional laptop with a full keyboard and a 17 inch screen. I upgraded it long ago to Vista (yes, I made my own drivers, but HP has them now). I was able to buy this at a discount because it was a new introduction- and there was no HP premium price. If there is another new one- I would jump at it. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax >From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/25/2007 2:58 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop Hi, I am looking for recommendations for a laptop having the following features: Suitable for Gaming (ideally advertised as a "gaming laptop") 17" screen Intel Core Duo processor 4GB RAM (of whatever flavor) Any other hardware requirement to support Aero Glass as well as can be hoped for given the shortcomings of the technology. I understand that to many, a high-end MacBook would be the only choice worth considering, however the intended recipient (a HS grad who has a full academic scholarship to UMCP) has said often and recently that he doesn't want one, so let's assume that the MacBook is a obvious choice and get past that. The aforementioned recipient has also expressed a fondness for ThinkPads (due to the esthetics?) but I wouldn't consider this more than a general guide. I would consider reliability and maintainability a bigger concern than cost. The major feature I am not eager to spend money on is HD video, due to my perception of this technology as immature (i.e. the DVD aspect, not broadcast/cable/satellite/etc.) Anybody with a strong reason to recommend a particular vendor or model, or against a particular vendor or model, please speak up (if the sound of crashing waves on the beach hasn't put you to sleep!). Thanks! --John Emmerling * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
For a "gaming laptop" you are most probably looking at alienware, though I don't think they use intel http://www.alienware.com Matthew On May 25, 2007, at 6:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for recommendations for a laptop having the following features: Suitable for Gaming (ideally advertised as a "gaming laptop") 17" screen Intel Core Duo processor 4GB RAM (of whatever flavor) Any other hardware requirement to support Aero Glass as well as can be hoped for given the shortcomings of the technology. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
I have heard good reviews of the newest Dell XPS laptop series. Alienware has always received good reviews from the gaming world for their high end laptops, plus they look really cool. I would go to maximumpc.com and check out their reviews - they always have the high-end game in mind. On 5/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I am looking for recommendations for a laptop having the following features: Suitable for Gaming (ideally advertised as a "gaming laptop") 17" screen Intel Core Duo processor 4GB RAM (of whatever flavor) Any other hardware requirement to support Aero Glass as well as can be hoped for given the shortcomings of the technology. I understand that to many, a high-end MacBook would be the only choice worth considering, however the intended recipient (a HS grad who has a full academic scholarship to UMCP) has said often and recently that he doesn't want one, so let's assume that the MacBook is a obvious choice and get past that. The aforementioned recipient has also expressed a fondness for ThinkPads (due to the esthetics?) but I wouldn't consider this more than a general guide. I would consider reliability and maintainability a bigger concern than cost. The major feature I am not eager to spend money on is HD video, due to my perception of this technology as immature (i.e. the DVD aspect, not broadcast/cable/satellite/etc.) Anybody with a strong reason to recommend a particular vendor or model, or against a particular vendor or model, please speak up (if the sound of crashing waves on the beach hasn't put you to sleep!). Thanks! --John Emmerling * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation
On 5/25/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So, my question is: What, precisely, are all the things that could go wrong, >were I to violate the EULA? Have we gotten to the point where every crime is just another a business decision? If the benefit exceeds the fine or the probability of getting caught is not high then is there anything you would not do? Well, until the EULA is given a solid legal standing, it is hard to argue that violating a EULA is illegal. It is certainly grounds for a contract dispute, but those have gone both ways in the courts, with the user winning sometimes (I has no real choice in the matter but to accept the EULA, so it wasn't a valid contract) and the company winning sometimes (the person could have refused to install the software). So, right now, violating a EULA is not illegal. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
Hi, I am looking for recommendations for a laptop having the following features: Suitable for Gaming (ideally advertised as a "gaming laptop") 17" screen Intel Core Duo processor 4GB RAM (of whatever flavor) Any other hardware requirement to support Aero Glass as well as can be hoped for given the shortcomings of the technology. I understand that to many, a high-end MacBook would be the only choice worth considering, however the intended recipient (a HS grad who has a full academic scholarship to UMCP) has said often and recently that he doesn't want one, so let's assume that the MacBook is a obvious choice and get past that. The aforementioned recipient has also expressed a fondness for ThinkPads (due to the esthetics?) but I wouldn't consider this more than a general guide. I would consider reliability and maintainability a bigger concern than cost. The major feature I am not eager to spend money on is HD video, due to my perception of this technology as immature (i.e. the DVD aspect, not broadcast/cable/satellite/etc.) Anybody with a strong reason to recommend a particular vendor or model, or against a particular vendor or model, please speak up (if the sound of crashing waves on the beach hasn't put you to sleep!). Thanks! --John Emmerling * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation
One of the sins that comprised the gist of what was once said as: "Sir! Have you no shame?" Mark Snyder -Original Message- >So, my question is: What, precisely, are all the things that could go >wrong, were I to violate the EULA? Have we gotten to the point where every crime is just another a business decision? If the benefit exceeds the fine or the probability of getting caught is not high then is there anything you would not do? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu
On 5/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do it by buying a 5 1/4 bay drive drawer, with two trays, online (Less than $30 I think...) & just power down, switch drawer trays and power up whenever... No fuss no muss... Looks like the easiest solution so far. How about a URL from those who've brought this sort of things previously? BTW, I noticed this, while not directly related to this thread, but still related to Ubuntu ... http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation
>So, my question is: What, precisely, are all the things that could go wrong, >were I to violate the EULA? Have we gotten to the point where every crime is just another a business decision? If the benefit exceeds the fine or the probability of getting caught is not high then is there anything you would not do? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation
You might feel bad late at night for having the nerve to purchase a copy of vista and use it? Mike On 5/25/07, Harvey Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a copy of Vista Home Premium that I¹m going to install on my MacBook. (Some don¹t think this is advisable, but maybe we can put those issues aside for the purposes of this discussion.) I would prefer to run Vista using Parallels, but can¹t do so w/o violating the End User License Agreement (EULA). To legally run Vista under Parallels requires one of the more expensive business editions. Also, Parallels will not offer any support for users who run versions of Vista that violate the EULA. The alternative is to install and run Vista using Boot Camp, which would be okay, but a clear second choice, all other things being equal. So, my question is: What, precisely, are all the things that could go wrong, were I to violate the EULA? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] computer troubleshooting
Yes, but it would really dumb down the list if we didn't expect members to do certain things first before asking questions. The first of which is power cycling. I'll be darned if I'm going to keep repeating the obvious first steps with every single answer I ever give. I suppose we could add in the already over-long footer the initial troubleshooting steps for total noobs. 1) Power down, wait 5 seconds, power back up. 2) Google for the error message. 3) Try Firefox/Opera 4) Run a freeware spyware app Realistically I suppose that isn't going to happen so I guess I ought to just make myself a macro. PS Note that a computer reboot will not reboot the computer's peripherals, including all the drives. On 5/25/07, Fred Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All kinds of problems are cleared by a re-boot. At 10:09 AM 5/25/2007, Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: >Yes, it is a working computer. But...guess what. This morning when I started the computer >After booting I tried again and the shelf opened out... * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Now...what do I do?
All kinds of problems are cleared by a re-boot. At 10:09 AM 5/25/2007, Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: >Yes, it is a working computer. But...guess what. This morning when I started >the computer >After booting I tried again and the shelf opened out... > >Go guess... * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation
I have a copy of Vista Home Premium that I¹m going to install on my MacBook. (Some don¹t think this is advisable, but maybe we can put those issues aside for the purposes of this discussion.) I would prefer to run Vista using Parallels, but can¹t do so w/o violating the End User License Agreement (EULA). To legally run Vista under Parallels requires one of the more expensive business editions. Also, Parallels will not offer any support for users who run versions of Vista that violate the EULA. The alternative is to install and run Vista using Boot Camp, which would be okay, but a clear second choice, all other things being equal. So, my question is: What, precisely, are all the things that could go wrong, were I to violate the EULA? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Now...what do I do?
Yes, it is a working computer. But...guess what. This morning when I started the computer After booting I tried again and the shelf opened out... Go guess... Many thanks to all who tried to help. Marcio At 11:53 PM 5/24/2007, Tony B wrote: I assumed this was in a working computer. So I figured you'd want to replace it with a working drive. If this is just an old junk computer then why would you jam a valuable cd into it? On 5/24/07, Marcio V. Pinheiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What do you mean by "after you replace it?" ,,, I tried a straightened paper clip too to no avail... * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Now...what do I do?
>straightened paper clip too to no avail... Try turning the power off and using a stiff (jumbo) paper clip. Pushing in the paper clip should move the drive tray out about 1/8 to 1/4 inch. Then you can pull it out the rest of the way manually. Go slow and watch carefully. You may have to manipulate the defective disc as you move the tray out. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
