Re: [CGUYS] E-mail

2007-08-28 Thread mike
Did you call to see if they are down?

Mike

On 8/27/07, Christopher Range [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 I am not a great expert on this, but I have the same problem
 time-to-time with Thunderbird.  Here's what I do (altho you might
 already have tried these with no luck):
 
 First, I reboot the computer -- Windows XP -- twice.  Often this solves
 the problem.  If not,
 
 
 I already tried that.

 (2) I unplug the cable modem and the router.  Plug the modem back in,
 wait a spell, then plug in the router.  If this doesn't work,
 
 
 That worked for sending mail but, I still have to go to my ISP's website
 to get my mail.

 (3) I exit the firewall.  If still not working,
 
 
 I will check on that.

 (4) I press the reset button on the router which brings it back to
 factory default.
 
 
 I will try this.

 (5) At this point, if it is still not working (happened to me only
 once), I go into diagnostic mode.  I try restoring XP to an earlier
 date; I hook directly to the cable modem without a router; I check the
 incoming  outgoing email server settings (and switch them to different
 ones); I delete the server settings and reconfigure them; I call my
 email provider for help; and as a last resort I uninstall Thunderbird
 and reinstall.
 
 I'm sorry that I can't advise more besides these novice instructions.  I
 am replying only since there has not been a more knowledgeable response
 to you posting and wish to help.
 
 I don't have any 'Restore Points'.

 I know the server settings are fine because, I checked those, after I
 un-installed Zone Alarm.

 Christopher


 
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[CGUYS] Home network

2007-08-28 Thread Jeff Myers
Well, my daughter has a new laptop (a really nice Fujitsu tablet), and I
think it's time to bite the bullet and set up a home network.  I have
comcast cable and want to connect the service to a number of laptops.
What's the easiest/cheapest way to go?

Thanks,
Jeff Myers



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search Destroy

2007-08-28 Thread Andy Gallant

fyi (ymmv) - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136205/article.html


Stephen Meskin wrote:

Does anyone have experience comparing these two?

I have used Spybot for a couple of years I also go thru a router and 
use Firefox, Thunderbird and AVG with Windows XP Firewall off and have 
had no problem yet.
My wife heard that Defender was very good, she goes thru the same 
router, uses Firefox, M$ Outlook and AVG with Windows XP Firewall 
turned on.

I said I would check Defender with you guys.
Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] E-mail

2007-08-28 Thread Terry Kilburg
Hi Christopher

I have dial-up so i don't know if any of this applies to you. It's been a yr. 
since i had zone alarm too.

You may have to change the DNS settings at ur Server.

Did you allow ur server to connect thru ur firewall.


Terry Kilburg - Independent Reliv International Distributor!



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Re: [CGUYS] E-mail

2007-08-28 Thread Richard P.
I had a similar conflict with Zone Alarm and Spy Sweeper. Spy Sweeper 
provided the fix which may work for this as well (you didn't mention 
what other defense programs you are using). Basically, you will have to 
set up a permission zone so you can access your email through the 
firewall. I only had to do steps 1-4 to get my email working again. What 
follows is from Webroot's Support Page:

http://support.webroot.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=776
Hope this helps.

Richard P.
Several options are available in order to try and resolve an E-mail 
Communication issue with Zone Alarm and Spy Sweeper installed on the 
same computer. The first option is to try and configure the firewall to 
grant access to Spy Sweeper, and the second option is to turn off the 
Spy Sweeper E-mail Attachment Shield if Zone Alarm changes do not 
resolve the issue:


  1. Zone Alarm may need to be configured to allow the Spy Sweeper
 E-mail Attachment shield to function by granting Spy Sweeper full
 program access as well as insure the e-mail servers it needs to
 communicate with have also been granted trusted status:

 View Instructional Video

 
http://www.webroot.com/flash/instructional_video/personal_firewall_config/zonealarm/ZoneAlarm_viewlet_swf.html?WRSID=c41eaeb7c197fc4a340cfb2e9931a624To
 start out: The POP3 and SMTP E-mail servers used by your e-mail
 application need to be known, and are often located in the email
 program under the account information (you may need to contact
 your ISP if the incoming POP3 server or outgoing SMTP server
 address is not known).
1. Insure that* SpySweeperUI.exe* and *Spysweeper.exe* have
   *full access* to the internet (look under *Program Control 
   Program Tab*). In *Zone Alarm Pro* you may see an additional
   set of permissions for '*Send Mail*' that full access needs
   to be granted to Spy Sweeper.
2. Next, click on the *Firewall option*  *Zones tab*.
3. Click on the *Add* button on the bottom right, and select
   *Host/Site*.

a.  For *Zone*, select *Trusted*

b.  For *Host name*, put in your *Outgoing SMTP mail server*
Example: Comcast e-mail outgoing mail server is smtp.comcast.net

c.  For *description*, enter a description (such as Comcast SMTP)

d.  Then click on the *Lookup button*. The box next to it should 
populate with IP addresses. Then click *OK*.


4. Repeat step 3 above to add the Incoming *POP3 mail server*:

   * *Zone* = *Trusted*
   * *Host name* = your Incoming* POP3 mail server*
   * *Description* = example Comcast POP3
   * Click the *Lookup* option and let the box populate
 with IP addresses. Click *OK*.
  1. Disable Spy Sweeper's E-mail Attachment Shield if Zone Alarm
 configurations do not resolve the communication failures. This can
 be done in two different ways, the first approach will literally
 turn the shield off while the second approach will render it
 incapable of accessing the commonly used e-mail ports:
1. To completely disable the E-mail Attachment Shield, follow
   the directions below which will result in a X of X
   Recommended Shields OFF message:

1.  Open up Spy Sweeper and go to the *E-mail Attachment Shield tab*.

2.  Remove check box from shield to disable.

2. To prevent Spy Sweeper from accessing the commonly used
   E-mail communication ports (25 and 110) for POP3 and SMTP
   traffic, follow the directions below. This will prevent
   access to these ports and render the shield inoperable.
   Please be cautious when performing this chance since no
   warning message will be presented that this shield is
   essentially OFF:

1.  Open up Spy Sweeper and go to the *E-mail Attachment Shield Options*.

2.  Change to the *POP3 port* from *110* to *10110*, and *SMTP port 25* 
to *port 10025*.



Christopher Range wrote:
lt;div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedgt;I 
am using Netscape 7.2(naysayers and critics please abstain from saying

anything negative about it, please).
br
brI can send but, I can't receive.nbsp; At first, I thought it was 
because of

the mess I created by, not shutting down all my programs, before
installing Zone Alarm.nbsp; I un-installed Zone Alarm.nbsp; That 
partially fixed

the problem because, I couldn't even click on the Start menu without the
computer locking up.nbsp; The other problem was re-doing the 
router.nbsp; I got
the router working again.nbsp; I can view received mail, on my ISP's 
website
but, still can't download my mail to my computer.nbsp; Another PC 
connected
to the Net, via the router cannot access Juno.nbsp; I am thinking it 
is a

firewall that is causing the problem but, I need input from others here,
on what the problem might be.
br
brChristopher
br
br

Re: [CGUYS] Nintendo Wii sales worldwide have surpassed lifetime Microsoft Xbox 360 sales in less than a year.

2007-08-28 Thread mike
The nintendo DS I believe also outsold the 360 for this quarter.  It will be
interesting to see how the xbox does when Halo comes out since MS won't let
it loose on pc's to try and drive up it's xbox sales.

Mike

On 8/28/07, Matthew Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Submitted for comments.

 Disclaimer - we have a Wii, and the kids love it.  I think it can be
 fun to play with them, but no hand I coordination game really floats
 my boat.

 http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136319-c,gameconsoles/article.html

 Nintendo Wii sales worldwide have surpassed lifetime Microsoft Xbox
 360 sales in less than a year.


 
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Re: [CGUYS] Home network

2007-08-28 Thread Michel Lowe
Jeff,
The easiest way to go is to set up a wireless LAN in your home.  All laptops
made in the past few years have wireless LAN support built in; I'm sure the
new Fujitsu does.  If your other laptops don't have wireless built in, you
can add it using a PC card or USB dongle solution.

You can get a basic wireless access point at your nearby Staples/Office
Depot/computer store or order one online.  Prices at Newegg start at $35 but
I think I've seen them as low as $25.  Stick with a name brand -- they all
use the same basic chipsets but if you need customer service you have a
better chance of getting a human on the phone with Linksys or D-Link or
Netgear (remember, I said better chance -- and the support may be coming
from India).  I have run Netgear and Linksys in my home network with no
problems on either box.  

I'm running a Linksys WRT54G ($48.49 + shipping from Newegg) in my network
because I'm also using the Linksys range extender and wireless print server.
It's advisable to stick with a single brand.  The clients in my home network
include three Lenovo Thinkpads, two Dell Inspirons, an HP tower and an
eMachine tower running Linux.  My daughter's boyfriend runs his Mac off my
net when he brings it over.  I also have the above Linksys wireless print
server and a wireless HP Officejet All-In-One -- no problems connecting any
of them, printing wirelessly etc. 

That said, your biggest issue with a wireless LAN is locking it down.  We've
had discussions on this list about the pros and cons of sharing your
broadband connection with the world and I don't know where you stand on the
topic but I'll assume you want to keep your neighbors out of your LAN.  

When you set up your access point chose the strongest security consistent
with your laptop clients.  At a bare minimum turn on 128-bit WEP (don't even
bother with the 64-bit WEP).  If your clients support it turn on WPA or WPA2
instead of WEP.  WEP is getting a little long in the tooth, lots of hacking
advice on breaking WEP available on the web.  WPA is much stronger.  

Also consider turning off SSID broadcasts from the access point (usually a
check box in the config).  If you do this you cannot let Windoze discover
your home network, you will have to tell it the SSID so it can find your
access point.  Whether or not you turn off SSID broadcasts CHANGE THE
DEFAULT SSID!  Just pick a word that's easy for you to remember but do not
use your last name or anything else easy to guess.

Finally, consider MAC filtering.  It's harder to set up since you usually
have to enter the MAC addresses manually of all your wireless devices.  And
invariably when you add a new device you will forget to add it into the MAC
filter and waste hours scratching your head how come the new computer can't
connect to your network.  Someone on this list will point out how easy it is
to spoof MAC addresses but I point out that what this will protect you from
is the casual, script-kiddy hacker, not the NSA or anyone determined to get
into your network.  

Neither SSID broadcast suppression or MAC filtering will really secure your
wireless LAN but they'll obscure it from the war-drivers trolling suburbia
with Netstumbler.  It's like locking your front door when you go to the
store: it won't keep out a real burglar but crack heads trying door knobs
will pass your house by.

Good luck!
-Mike 

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Purcellville, VA
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Myers
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 Subject: [CGUYS] Home network
 
 Well, my daughter has a new laptop (a really nice Fujitsu tablet), and I
 think it's time to bite the bullet and set up a home network.  I have
 comcast cable and want to connect the service to a number of laptops.
 What's the easiest/cheapest way to go?
 
 Thanks,
 Jeff Myers



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Re: [CGUYS] Home network

2007-08-28 Thread Quentin Fisher
I have a home network with Linksys. The main computer is cabled to the 
router, and others via wireless. All running XP and Zone Alarm.


The problem I've had is that all the computers see each other in the same 
workgroup, and all can share EXCEPT when accessing to the main computer 
from any other. I keep getting access forbidden messages. I've gone over 
the sharing settings, included it in the Zone Alarm zones, etc, but can't 
figure what I'm missing. Obviously got iy right in the other machines. Any 
suggestions that go beyond the usual simple Windows set-up?


Quentin Fisher
Bethesda, MD



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search Destroy

2007-08-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Use both.  Spyware filters work better with several being used.
Windows Defender seems to work and is pretty trouble free.

I typically run Spybot Search and Destroy, Lavasoft's Ad aware,  MS's
Defender, Stopzilla and Eeye's Blink.  They all catch different things
and don't seem to interfere with each other.   Stopzilla, MS, and
Blink are running all of time.

Blink is free for a year and the most troublesome since it is the most
sensitive.  It is designed to find things that act like a
virus/spyware as well as things it has signatures for.  It is also the
program I would put on a machine for some one who knows nothing about
computer security.

Stopzilla blocks pop ups and spyware.

My next step is to setup Astaro's Free Security gateway software on an
old PC box to protect our home network.
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Anti-Virus_Utilities/Astaro_Network_Security.html



On 8/28/07, Stephen Meskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone have experience comparing these two?

 I have used Spybot for a couple of years I also go thru a router and use
 Firefox, Thunderbird and AVG with Windows XP Firewall off and have had
 no problem yet.
 My wife heard that Defender was very good, she goes thru the same
 router, uses Firefox, M$ Outlook and AVG with Windows XP Firewall turned on.
 I said I would check Defender with you guys.
 Steve


 
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[CGUYS] Change in Terminology AND broken ibooks

2007-08-28 Thread Arnold Kee
Thanks so much all for the advice on how to strike. I just missed a colossal 
deal on a refurbished Apple last night--moved too slow, but the locations you 
suggested I scan are very much appreciated. The thought of having to be both 
patient and deliberate simultaneously was at first a bit disconcerting.but 
that's capitalism. And in a funny way, even more like hunting. Right now I'm 
waiting in the bushes for the next deal to raise it's head above the fray.
Also thanks to the other colleague who suggested globbing glue to the end of a 
probe to yank out the plug. I'm going to leave things alone right now to make 
sure I don't make things worsemy last set of tinkering made it act real 
funny.

Arnold
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-now we make history-




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Re: [CGUYS] Change in Terminology AND broken ibooks

2007-08-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
One place I have bought refurbished equipment from is Compgeeks, but 
I am not sure if they have Apple computers at all.


Stewart


At 07:30 PM 8/28/2007, you wrote:

The best deals I've found are on the Apple site, store.apple.com,
tag sale for refurbs--scroll down to the tag on the right. We've
bought several Macs and iPods at terrific discounts online from
Apple, and they carry a full warranty. Smalldog.com is also an
excellent reseller; their g

If you happen to belong to NAPP (Natn'l Assoc. of Prof.
Photographers) you can save a couple hundred dollars using their
discount.  If you're buying new, don't go thru ebay. It's just too
risky.  I have bought computers on there..but many years ago when
it was a bit safer.  As Betty said, if you do it, stick with ebay
stores and not individuals.

Paula
IN/USA
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather
to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body
thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a
ride! Have a wonderful day!








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[CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help

2007-08-28 Thread Alvin Auerbach

Part 1

Is anyone else a YahooGroups moderator in a group where the moderator 
must approve each applicant?


If so, have you had this [see below] problem, where the email request 
for membership is received by yahoo, but is not transferred to the 
Pending page, where a moderator can deal with it?


Have you complained?

What happened?

I have this problem over and over, and prospective members are angry, 
since they apply and are not approved.


Have you found some other way to get around the problem?

FAQ: Why do you want to approve each membership application?

Ans: The Group is for our neighborhood only, and we disapprove any 
applicant outside of our boundaries.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Part 2

Is AOL any better?

Is there a way to transition to AOL and not need to have all the 
members reapply?


Thanks,

Alvin


Begin Message to YahooGroups 
IT NEVER ENDS!!

The page
http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//logs?cat=cmds
shows
Aug 28, 2007 5:59 pm  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Membership requested via email

The page
http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//members?group=pending
does NOT show this request at Aug 28, 2007 8:35 pm

The page
http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//logs?cat=mod
does NOT show any activity regarding
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

CAN YOU PLEASE, PLEASE, MAKE THE YAHOOGROUPS SOFTWARE WORK?

Please advise.

Thank you,

Alvin
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Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help

2007-08-28 Thread Tony B
I've never had that specific problem, but my Yahoo account has been
hacked twice making it impossible for me to do ANY moderating on my
list for long periods.

I didn't think AOL did public groups. The alternative is Google Groups
I believe. I'm only in one; they seem the same.

I run a neighborhood web forum up here in WV, and IMHO free mailing
lists are not a great way to engender a sense of community. Maybe with
10-20 people, but once you start getting more nobody can handle the
deluge of email. Unless nobody talks about anything.



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Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help

2007-08-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I moderate quite a few groups on Yahoo and I always get notified.'

Here are a couple of things to check.

Go into your group (Make sure you are logged on with your proper ID)

Click members, then click moderators.

Click the pencil looking thingy under your ID name (Yahoo)

This will get you into preferences for that email address.

Make sure that Notify this moderator when is checked.  There are 
three the top two need to be checked.


Then scroll down and there are a bunch of other boxes to make sure are checked.

when you are done click the box that says save changes.

I have two to three address that I have in my groups, one home, one 
work, and another backup.  I usually get notification on all of 
these, but I have gone in and set them up for this.


Stewart


At 08:15 PM 8/28/2007, you wrote:

Part 1

Is anyone else a YahooGroups moderator in a group where the 
moderator must approve each applicant?


If so, have you had this [see below] problem, where the email 
request for membership is received by yahoo, but is not transferred 
to the Pending page, where a moderator can deal with it?


Have you complained?

What happened?

I have this problem over and over, and prospective members are 
angry, since they apply and are not approved.


Have you found some other way to get around the problem?

FAQ: Why do you want to approve each membership application?

Ans: The Group is for our neighborhood only, and we disapprove any 
applicant outside of our boundaries.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Part 2

Is AOL any better?

Is there a way to transition to AOL and not need to have all the 
members reapply?


Thanks,

Alvin


Begin Message to YahooGroups 
IT NEVER ENDS!!

The page
http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//logs?cat=cmds
shows
Aug 28, 2007 5:59 pm  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Membership requested via email

The page
http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//members?group=pending
does NOT show this request at Aug 28, 2007 8:35 pm

The page
http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//logs?cat=mod
does NOT show any activity regarding
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

CAN YOU PLEASE, PLEASE, MAKE THE YAHOOGROUPS SOFTWARE WORK?

Please advise.

Thank you,

Alvin
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Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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Re: [CGUYS] Problem caused by MS Office System Software

2007-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
Here ya go.  Without ActiveX, you'll just have to download and install
updates until the problem goes away, assuming the diagnosis is correct.

Start with SP2 and go from there.  SP3 just came out, but I haven't tested
it yet.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/CD010225291033.aspx

 -Original Message-
 I sent the following comment to M$, I don't expect an answer from them
 but maybe one of you can help.   The irony in their statement as to the
 cause of the problem is amusing.
 
  Using MS Word 2003, I received an error message.  I was told that the
  problem was caused by Microsoft Office System Software and that
  [a]n update is available for [my] MS Office System product which is
  MS Office Professional  Edition 2003.  When I went to your site to
  download the update (whatever it is), I was told that I couldn't use
  my usual browser; I had to use Explorer 7 or else you couldn't tell
 me
  what update I was missing.  So I switched to MS Explorer 7 but then I
  was told I had to load Active X which I don't want to do.  /_*So how
  can I tell what upgrades I need without using your software?*_/



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search Destroy

2007-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
Don't run as an admin, if you can.  That stops 99% of non-honor system
spyware attacks.

 -Original Message-
 Use both.  Spyware filters work better with several being used.
 Windows Defender seems to work and is pretty trouble free.



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Re: [CGUYS] Change in Terminology AND broken ibooks

2007-08-28 Thread b_s-wilk
I took my iBook to the Apple Store today and they don't have a 'special 
tool' to fix the broken plug tip. However, at our Mac club meeting I got 
a terrific suggestion--dental tools. You know that scary looking narrow 
curved hook think that they use to clean between teeth? I'm calling my 
dentist tomorrow to see what kind of old tools he has that might remove 
the broken plug tip.


As for the online Apple store, the stock in the tag sale changes 
constantly. It took two weeks to get the black video iPod my husband 
wanted, at a super discount. If you don't get the item you want today, 
check back tomorrow several times. The Mac you want WILL appear in the 
list soon.


As for your broken headphone jack, you can use a USB Griffin iMic instead.

Betty



Thanks so much all for the advice on how to strike. I just missed a
colossal deal on a refurbished Apple last night--moved too slow, but
the locations you suggested I scan are very much appreciated. The
thought of having to be both patient and deliberate simultaneously
was at first a bit disconcerting.but that's capitalism. And in a
funny way, even more like hunting. Right now I'm waiting in the
bushes for the next deal to raise it's head above the fray. Also
thanks to the other colleague who suggested globbing glue to the end
of a probe to yank out the plug. I'm going to leave things alone
right now to make sure I don't make things worsemy last set of
tinkering made it act real funny.




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