Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search Destroy
Yes, that is what I am saying. Malware uses the existing rights of the user to do its deed. Running as an admin, gives malware admin rights to the machine and thus, no limitations. Running as a lower-permission user denies malware the rights it needs to install and propagate itself. Non-honorware self-installs without interaction with the user. The e-card Trojan circulating is an example of honorware. You have to fall for the ruse, go to the web site linked in the message, download the executable and install it all yourself. Once that's done, it then uses your PC as a spam zombie or installs a keylogger to get login credentials for banks and such. Some legitimate programs won't run unless you are the admin, which is the result of sloppy and/or lazy coding. That MS made Windows install the user as the default admin was just an act of galactic-sized stupidity on their part. They have corrected that to a point, but not completely, in Vista. -Original Message- Jeff, I'm sorry but I don't understand your message. Are you saying that not running as admin stops certain spyware? What is non-honor spyware? What stops honor software? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
At 10:30 PM 08/29/2007 -0400, John DeCarlo wrote Sue, I am pretty sure there is no way in Yahoo groups to directly add people. At the very bottom of the invite page, click on Add members from an existing email list. You can just add one member if you like, or several--there is a top limit but I've forgotten how many. This is kinda hidden, as it easy to abuse such a function. I direct-add people who just can't seem to figure out how to get themselves on the list. I *do* make them try, though. Moderators of family lists often direct-add the old aunties. :) I prefer to steer them through joining from the web site. If they do not already have a YahooID and password, Yahoo walks them through all that automatically. Saves a lot of hassle the first time they want to view photos or files (which you can't do without a YahooID). This is the message that I send out to blind email requests to join: *** To join xxx, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/x/ (this would be the URL of your Group Home page) Click on the button that says: Join This Group! Please give your reasons for wanting to join this group, plus your name and general location. I like your suggested work around of inviting people who you see in the email request queue. You can put in a note that this is part of your double opt-in approach g. I'd guess 80% of applicants put enough info in the original application to satisfy me that they are not spammers. The ones who don't, I contact privately. I do not send invites in these circumstances...I save their initial request and approve that if and when I hear back from them. If you send an invite, they can join immediately without sending any info. This might work fine for you, though, if you know all of your potential members. I would guess, in your case, that an applicant's street address might be required? In my case, on my international list, I simply ask for general location (country, area, etc), and find that people don't resist so much if you don't ask for actual address. On my closed list (which involves volunteers in the family court), I am provided a list of those who qualify from the head of the organization, and I will send invites to those folks. This is simply a courtesy, as list membership is required in the organization. I *could* direct-add them. The *purpose* of email lists should be the deciding factor as to how you control (or don't) memberships. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
At 12:06 AM 08/30/2007 -0400, Alvin Auerbach wrote Sue, Potential members -- let's say potential households instead: 1300. We have a newsletter which we publish about 3 or 4 times per year in which stress the importance of joining the group. I would use some variation on the message I just posted, and print that in the newsletter. A great share of the 1700+ members on my international list join because the list owner is a monthly contributing author to an industry magazine. The info to join the list is in the footer of all of her articles. I want and need the Yahoo machinery to do its work, and keep my work at a minimum. I feel overloaded already. :( Yes, and there is no reason not to. IF they attempt to join through the website info that you publish in your newsletter (hopefully most of them will apply in that manner), and provide the info you need the first time around, then you can just approve the member through email and be done. There are a couple of really good list management lists that you can join if you're interested. Contact me privately for details if you'd like. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Problem
This isn't really a solution, it's more like an observation, so I apologize in advance for not offering a definitive answer. Some people--myself included--have been having miscellaneous problems when using Google with certain forms of Internet Explorer. When I inquired among People Who Should Know About These Things, I was told that Google was having incompatibility problems with IE and didn't particularly care to fix them. I switched browsers, and my problems went away as if by magic. This may or may not be your problem--it probably isn't--but if nothing else works, it may be worth trying to switch browsers. It's probably a good idea anyway: Firefox is safer, it's really cool, and it has tons of really neat features. If you have an older computer, there are sites that offer vintage browsers. --Constance Warner Perhaps some of you could help me. I am connected to the Internet via Cable Modem. In the last few days I have been noticing a strange behavior when trying to access web sites. Let me explain. I get to Internet Explorer and I have no problems acessing Google (for instance). But when I click a link in Google I don´t go there. It says: Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage Most likely causes: * You are not connected to the Internet. * The website is encountering problems. * There might be a typing error in the address. What you can try: [] Diagnose Connection Problems More information More information This problem can be caused by a variety of issues, including: * Internet connectivity has been lost. * The website is temporarily unavailable. * The Domain Name Server (DNS) is not reachable. * The Domain Name Server (DNS) does not have a listing for the website's domain. * If this is an HTTPS (secure) address, click Tools, click Internet Options, click Advanced, and check to be sure the SSL and TLS protocols are enabled under the security section. This is happening with a lot of site. My e-mail is working fine. Many thanks to all Marcio * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Digital TV
There have been rumblings like that for years, but I'd be surprised if anyone really does it. I mean, as people buy HD TV's, they're going to expect HD pictures. I don't get WMPT here, so I'll have to take your word for it that they've made this decision. I'm mostly curious to know *what* they're planning to put on these other channels and how exactly does an ATSC tuner tune them in (I've never used ATSC)? On 8/30/07, MrMike6by9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not the whole story. Over at AVSForum.com, there has been much discussion of this issue. The temptation is that the same bandwidth required for one HD channel can host several SD digital channels. On some systems, users are complaining that the HD channels are bit-starved because the broadcasters want the extra revenue that might come from multiple channels. Locally, we have an example of how bad it can get. WMPT has all but eliminated their HD broadcasts and even removed HD from the channel name (although the broadcaster is a non-profit). They claim to want to able to add more SD channels. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] IP address lookup
What's a site to look up an IP address of a web page? I thought I had it bookmarked, but can't find it [must clean up bookmarks]; thought it was arin.net, whois, icann, internic; sometimes netcraft.com helps. Been having problems with our DSL [intermittent connection], including DNS issues [some sites only load with IP address, not URL]. Maybe Verizon will resolve both soon. thx Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] IP address lookup
Two sites to do dig online are: http://www.kloth.net/services/dig.php http://us.mirror.menandmice.com/knowledgehub/tools/dig Is that what you were looking for? -Andy b_s-wilk wrote: What's a site to look up an IP address of a web page? I thought I had it bookmarked, but can't find it [must clean up bookmarks]; thought it was arin.net, whois, icann, internic; sometimes netcraft.com helps. Been having problems with our DSL [intermittent connection], including DNS issues [some sites only load with IP address, not URL]. Maybe Verizon will resolve both soon. thx Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Problem
First thing to try is to power down everything. Then 1) Power up the cable modem. 2) power up the router. 3) powerup/start the computer. Presumably you have tried this already? Fred Holmes At 11:10 AM 8/30/2007, Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: Perhaps some of you could help me. I am connected to the Internet via Cable Modem. In the last few days I have been noticing a strange behavior when trying to access web sites. Let me explain. I get to Internet Explorer and I have no problems acessing Google (for instance). But when I click a link in Google I don´t go there. It says: Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage Most likely causes: * You are not connected to the Internet. * The website is encountering problems. * There might be a typing error in the address. What you can try: [] Diagnose Connection Problems More information More information This problem can be caused by a variety of issues, including: * Internet connectivity has been lost. * The website is temporarily unavailable. * The Domain Name Server (DNS) is not reachable. * The Domain Name Server (DNS) does not have a listing for the website's domain. * If this is an HTTPS (secure) address, click Tools, click Internet Options, click Advanced, and check to be sure the SSL and TLS protocols are enabled under the security section. This is happening with a lot of site. My e-mail is working fine. Many thanks to all Marcio * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
Thanks for the quick input...looks like i will be going for LCD. Now, who can come over and convince my wife? Does she like a deal? We bought a 37 LCD and a 42 plasma, both Philips, at Costco. We joined Costco at the $100 business membership, getting an AmEx card, too. With 1-3% rebates on everything with AmEX, and 2% rebate from Costco, we received checks for ~$78 from AmEx and ~$64 from Costco, enough to pay for our membership and have cash left over. Costco also has an excellent electronics warranty, as long as you're a member. They also have a great selection of imported cheese, and giant bags/boxes/containers of anything, when you only need one. We bought Philips for the features that other flat TVs don't have--HD, USB, 2-HDMI, more inputs/outputs than most others, plus buttons on the TV so you don't always have to find the remote! We also have a Samsung 135 upconverting DVD player/recorder. Does a good job of converting movies for viewing on an HDTV. Lucky for you, it costs half as much this year as we paid for it last year. Picture on the LCD is better than on the plasma. Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Problem
At 03:27 PM 8/30/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Meanwhile, I'm guessing that it's a DNS issue. When I find the IP address for the web site [I usually use netcraft.com] and use that, I can access the site/link. If you think it is a DNS problem, try setting your DNS servers to OpenDNS: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 See http://www.opendns.com/ If you have a home network / router, put the above settings into the _router's_ setup dialog, and leave the computers attached to the network set to obtain DNS services automatically. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Now I am in troubles...
Good people. I am in troubles. Here we go... How long it will tale me to find my way?... Clearly I continue to be unable to access the web sites. Bit not all. For instance, I can access Google, I can access Amazon, but of the others I have in my Favorite Files I can´t. I get that nasty sign: Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage Most likely causes: * You are not connected to the Internet. * The website is encountering problems. * There might be a typing error in the address. I have put the computers off, the modem, the router off and the access point off. Then started putting them ON starting with the modem. No change. I can´t access for instance: http://www.seatguru.com/. But www.amazon.com is OK. Most of what I try get the nasty message above. Indeed I am in troubles. And have no idea of where to go from here. Thanks to you all Marcio At 04:59 PM 8/30/2007, Fred Holmes wrote: At 03:27 PM 8/30/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Meanwhile, I'm guessing that it's a DNS issue. When I find the IP address for the web site [I usually use netcraft.com] and use that, I can access the site/link. If you think it is a DNS problem, try setting your DNS servers to OpenDNS: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 See http://www.opendns.com/ If you have a home network / router, put the above settings into the _router's_ setup dialog, and leave the computers attached to the network set to obtain DNS services automatically. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Now I am in troubles...
Did you try the new DNS settings? Mike On 8/30/07, Marcio V. Pinheiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good people. I am in troubles. Here we go... How long it will tale me to find my way?... Clearly I continue to be unable to access the web sites. Bit not all. For instance, I can access Google, I can access Amazon, but of the others I have in my Favorite Files I can´t. I get that nasty sign: * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Lniksys NLSU2 SNMP get-requests and get-responses
So I built a one way sniffer cable to see what was being sent between my Action-Tec Fios router and 'the internet'. I found an interesting snmp relationship between a computer I call 'Athlon' and the 'HP PSC-2510'printer. Here is the short version: 62 16.419717 192.168.1.4 192.168.1.20 SNMP get-request 63 16.440117 192.168.1.20 192.168.1.4 SNMP get-response Over an over again, like it is doing because it is wanting a better answer. I don't have a clue. I'm running the management web page to it to find out more now. Regards, John Mealey * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
