Re: [CGUYS] Phone or PDA
WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS! Verizon does not turn it off. They will limit your ability to do both Wi-Fi and phone at the same time. I am a Verizon customer and my phone does Wi-Fi, but not at the same time. (By the way it chews up battery time something fierce) Verizon does not sell reprogrammed equipment, but you can activate any CDMA phone that has the new digital stuff on Verizons network. You may not be able to do it online, but you can take it into the store and as long as the number (digital serial number) clears they will program it for you. They key is it must be CDMA compatible phone. I may not like everything these folks do (Cell phone carriers in the US place way too many limits on their phones) but let us not tell falsehoods. Stewart At 08:01 AM 8/29/2007, you wrote: It may not be the unit- it is often your cellular provider that turns off WiFi- Verizon comes to mind. So, from what I recall, the 700 does have WiFi- if your vendor is NOT Verizon. I think you need to have AT&T service or reprogram the device to have WiFi (NOTE: Verizon and Sprint refuse to accept reprogrammed devices). Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax >From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: 08/29/2007 7:43 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Phone or PDA I'm trying to decide between something like a Treo 700 or a Palm TX. I currently use a Palm 500 and a Samsung cell phone. I like the idea of having the PDA and cell in one unit but I can see disadvantages as well (size for one). On the other hand the TX has wifi which would allow me to check email just about anywhere. Are there any cell phones like the Treo that would allow you to use non proprietary wifi? I'm not interested in paying $60 a month for something like Edge or whatever Sprints equivalent is just to occasionally check my email. Any thoughts? Nick Crettier Front Royal, VA * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive
[CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
Hello all; My wife's three year old Dell desktop got fried in lightning storm last week so I'm replacing it. I'd prefer to keep XP, but at this point, everyone's shipping with Vista. Two questions: 1. Has anyone found any good web resources on how to downgrade an OS from Vista to XP? 2. I have the disks that came with the Dell that was destroyed, which includes a CD of Windows XP that I have a legal license for. Is there any reason it wouldn't work for me to order a new Dell, format the new hard drive and run that CD? Thanks in advance for any help Dan * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
For what it's worth, you can still get XP out there, and at a good discount in some cases. I just bought an XP PC for $227 at Circuit City. Micro Center and Dell still sells them as well. Richard P. Dan Blum wrote: Hello all; My wife's three year old Dell desktop got fried in lightning storm last week so I'm replacing it. I'd prefer to keep XP, but at this point, everyone's shipping with Vista. Two questions: 1. Has anyone found any good web resources on how to downgrade an OS from Vista to XP? 2. I have the disks that came with the Dell that was destroyed, which includes a CD of Windows XP that I have a legal license for. Is there any reason it wouldn't work for me to order a new Dell, format the new hard drive and run that CD? Thanks in advance for any help Dan * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
Thanks. I already have an OEM copy of XP that came with the computer that died. My question is focused more on any technical issues involved in replacing Vista with XP -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P. Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 9:46 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP For what it's worth, you can still get XP out there, and at a good discount in some cases. I just bought an XP PC for $227 at Circuit City. Micro Center and Dell still sells them as well. Richard P. Dan Blum wrote: > Hello all; > > My wife's three year old Dell desktop got fried in lightning storm > last week so I'm replacing it. I'd prefer to keep XP, but at this > point, everyone's shipping with Vista. Two questions: > > 1. Has anyone found any good web resources on how to downgrade an OS > from Vista to XP? > > 2. I have the disks that came with the Dell that was destroyed, which > includes a CD of Windows XP that I have a legal license for. Is there > any reason it wouldn't work for me to order a new Dell, format the new > hard drive and run that CD? > > Thanks in advance for any help > > Dan > > > ** > ** > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in > <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L > YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > ** > * List archive at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > ** > ** > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
Check their small business listings you can still get XP on systems there. Our church bought one a few months ago and I specified XP. Stewart At 08:18 AM 9/1/2007, you wrote: Hello all; My wife's three year old Dell desktop got fried in lightning storm last week so I'm replacing it. I'd prefer to keep XP, but at this point, everyone's shipping with Vista. Two questions: 1. Has anyone found any good web resources on how to downgrade an OS from Vista to XP? 2. I have the disks that came with the Dell that was destroyed, which includes a CD of Windows XP that I have a legal license for. Is there any reason it wouldn't work for me to order a new Dell, format the new hard drive and run that CD? Thanks in advance for any help Dan * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
You can't "downgrade" the OS, but you do have the right to install XP in place of Vista. You have to already have the XP media *and* product ID and you can then install that instead. The Dell OEM disks won't work unless you buy another Dell. The disks are locked to the system's hardware and license that came with the CPU. Using another OEM disk, HP for example, or even a retail media set (without a product ID) may not work with the product ID on the Dell. Add to this, is that it's not "legal." http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f/4/5f4c83d3-833e-4f11-8cbd-699b0c1 64182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm You can buy XP here, if the OEM disks don't work for you, but this is a lot of work and $$$, just to avoid using Vista. http://www.directron.com/systems-operating-systems.html > -Original Message- > My wife's three year old Dell desktop got fried in lightning storm last > week > so I'm replacing it. I'd prefer to keep XP, but at this point, > everyone's > shipping with Vista. Two questions: > > 1. Has anyone found any good web resources on how to downgrade an OS > from > Vista to XP? > > 2. I have the disks that came with the Dell that was destroyed, which > includes a CD of Windows XP that I have a legal license for. Is there > any > reason it wouldn't work for me to order a new Dell, format the new hard > drive and run that CD? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
The XP you got with the old laptop was probably a 'branded' version, legal only on that specific laptop. A full version of the OS that could be installed anywhere would have cost a lot more. Vista's fine; I'd get it with a new laptop. Only reason to stick with XP would be if you have hardware involved that doesn't yet have Vista drivers. On 9/1/07, Dan Blum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My wife's three year old Dell desktop got fried in lightning storm last week > so I'm replacing it. I'd prefer to keep XP, but at this point, everyone's > shipping with Vista. Two questions: * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived