Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread MrMike6by9
Some thoughts. I found that one of the best solutions for dealing with
unsolicited phone traffic is an answering machine with caller-id or a
speaker. They rarely bother if the machine picks up first. If I hear a
familiar voice say my name, I can pick-up or return the call. My caller-id
shows that there are a LOT of 800 numbers calling during the day. You can
often check them out with "800notes.com" and with "whocalled.us". I'm sure
there are others. The "doing business" bit with the do not call registry is
within the last 6 months, IIRC. You usually have to UNcheck the box that
permits third party businesses from contacting you, phone or email. I now
have Comcast digital voice and can block 12 numbers at a time. I keep an
Excel sheet of numbers and dates they call. If one shows more than once or
twice, it gets blocked. Groceries rotate their stock, I rotate 800 numbers
on my blocked callers list.

YMMV

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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread David Chessler
I have heard of people doing the following: they get "select a ring" 
or "smart ring" or whatever their phone company is calling it this 
month. Any directory listing for the person will be for the "primary" 
phone number at that location. They put a fax machine on that number, 
and only pick up for the secondary number.


Of course, I disconnected my fax machine a couple of years ago (who 
sends faxes when Email is cheaper, faster, and easier?). I still get 
a few faxes every morning.


We used to have the phone listed in my wife's unpronouncable maiden 
name (no extra charge to have the phone listed in any name you want, 
though there is a one-time charge [about $15] to change the listing). 
We ended that 5 years ago. Just yesterday I got a "charitable" call 
from someone who fumbled the name. I asked who it was, said "I gave 
at the office" or something, and hung up.


I'm now starting to get text-message spam on my cell phone. This 
annoys me because my plan requires me to pay for all text messages (I 
don't use the feature myself). It's not a problem YET: I get far more 
wrong numbers than text messages.



At 12:58 PM 2/19/2008, MrMike6by9 wrote:

Some thoughts. I found that one of the best solutions for dealing with
unsolicited phone traffic is an answering machine with caller-id or a
speaker. They rarely bother if the machine picks up first. If I hear a
familiar voice say my name, I can pick-up or return the call. My caller-id
shows that there are a LOT of 800 numbers calling during the day. You can
often check them out with "800notes.com" and with "whocalled.us". I'm sure
there are others. The "doing business" bit with the do not call registry is
within the last 6 months, IIRC. You usually have to UNcheck the box that
permits third party businesses from contacting you, phone or email. I now
have Comcast digital voice and can block 12 numbers at a time. I keep an
Excel sheet of numbers and dates they call. If one shows more than once or
twice, it gets blocked. Groceries rotate their stock, I rotate 800 numbers
on my blocked callers list.

YMMV

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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
With Verizon Wireless you can "decline" text messaging, i.e., turn it off 
altogether, if that works for you.  I did it verbally, i.e., by calling 
customer service and asking them to turn off all texting to/from my phone.

Fred Holmes

At 02:02 PM 2/19/2008, David Chessler wrote:
>I'm now starting to get text-message spam on my cell phone. This annoys me 
>because my plan requires me to pay for all text messages (I don't use the 
>feature myself). It's not a problem YET: I get far more wrong numbers than 
>text messages.


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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Had that and data downloads blocked on a son phone I gave my son 
solely as a backup line for his work.


That way no surprises.

Stewart


At 01:47 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote:
With Verizon Wireless you can "decline" text messaging, i.e., turn 
it off altogether, if that works for you.  I did it verbally, i.e., 
by calling customer service and asking them to turn off all texting 
to/from my phone.


Fred Holmes


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread Tony B
We get no unsolicited calls at all on our VOIP line. I think I'm on
the Do Not Call list, but that wouldn't explain the lack of calls from
political candidates. Maybe the DC area code misleads them? But then,
why don't I get calls from DC area candidates?


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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread Tom Piwowar
>We get no unsolicited calls at all on our VOIP line. I think I'm on
>the Do Not Call list, but that wouldn't explain the lack of calls from
>political candidates. Maybe the DC area code misleads them? But then,
>why don't I get calls from DC area candidates?

*Everybody* in DC got an automated recorded call last week from our kid 
mayor telling us about his support of Obama.

It is bad when candidates have too much money.


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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread gerald
I think one of the reasons this recorded message from an 800 number is so 
popular is that it is really cheap.

a hundred 800 number lines probably are no more than $3-4000, and all the 
equipment is reusable.

hundred lines, is easily 3000 calls an hour.30,000+ calls a day.  million calls 
in a month.  i know edwards reported 1.7 mil in donations.  lotta calls.

At 05:02 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote:
>>We get no unsolicited calls at all on our VOIP line. I think I'm on
>>the Do Not Call list, but that wouldn't explain the lack of calls from
>>political candidates. Maybe the DC area code misleads them? But then,
>>why don't I get calls from DC area candidates?
>
>*Everybody* in DC got an automated recorded call last week from our kid 
>mayor telling us about his support of Obama.
>
>It is bad when candidates have too much money.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread David Chessler

At 04:10 PM 2/19/2008, Tony B wrote:

We get no unsolicited calls at all on our VOIP line. I think I'm on
the Do Not Call list, but that wouldn't explain the lack of calls from
political candidates. Maybe the DC area code misleads them? But then,
why don't I get calls from DC area candidates?


Maybe the "exchange" isn't in their directories.

We get calls for my children who have been registered voters in Mass 
for years.





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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread David Chessler

At 02:47 PM 2/19/2008, Fred Holmes wrote:
With Verizon Wireless you can "decline" text messaging, i.e., turn 
it off altogether, if that works for you.  I did it verbally, i.e., 
by calling customer service and asking them to turn off all texting 
to/from my phone.


Thanks. There are a few uses for text messaging: in emergencies it 
will get through even if the network is overloaded (think 911); and 
airlines will text message you on flight information.


And that's about it. I used to get weather messages, but found it was 
more convenient to call the weather bureau. I've got the weather 
bureaus up and down the east coast in my dialing directory




Fred Holmes

At 02:02 PM 2/19/2008, David Chessler wrote:
>I'm now starting to get text-message spam on my cell phone. This 
annoys me because my plan requires me to pay for all text messages 
(I don't use the feature myself). It's not a problem YET: I get far 
more wrong numbers than text messages.



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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread David Chessler

At 06:54 PM 2/19/2008, gerald wrote:
I think one of the reasons this recorded message from an 800 number 
is so popular is that it is really cheap.


800 numbers are actually "inward WATS". A PBX can be programmed to 
provide any number you want. Large corporations will program it to 
give the general switchboard number, rather than the direct number of 
the person calling you. Telemarketers will give an 800 number for the 
same sort of reason.


FCC rules require the caller ID number to be "legitimate"


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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-19 Thread rlsimon
I didn't read all the posts in this topic thread...I've wondered what
happens to the guys who think the DNC is not working and re-up ...does that
open a 90 day window for the callers to call you waiting for that period to
expire when they MUST honor your request resulting in worsening of the
situation in the short run??


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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-20 Thread MrMike6by9
I remember going the DNC site and verifying that my numbers are still listed
and saw the expiration dates for those listings.

YMMV

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Subject: Re: Do Not Call Lists

I didn't read all the posts in this topic thread...I've wondered what
happens to the guys who think the DNC is not working and re-up ...does that
open a 90 day window for the callers to call you waiting for that period to
expire when they MUST honor your request resulting in worsening of the
situation in the short run??

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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

2008-02-20 Thread MrMike6by9
I meant to add. Many of those services that use these 800's numbers appear
to be using "boiler rooms" from which multiple numbers are dialed
simulatanously. You will often pick up and hear nothing since another line
answered first and that "child of God" spilled his/her spam on that
unfortunate person before he got your call. Call backs to these
numbers often go to a non-working number or to a line that says it cannot
accept incoming calls. How about that?

You can find out about a lot of this by reading the comments people post at
"whocalled.us" and at "800notes.com". A couple of weeks back, for example, I
got a call from "123-456-7890" according to the caller id. Sheesh!

YMMV

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