Re: [CGUYS] Help! Update

2008-09-18 Thread Kelly J. Morris

John DeCarlo wrote:


I don't think it will do what you want,
either one.

John - Everything worked as you laid it out for me. You were right: it 
didn't do what I wanted. I think that, as you indicated, the Linux 
folders were most likely overwritten by Windows folders of the same name.


I did some backups to DVD in late April and will start rebuilding from 
there. Unfortunately, the most recent backup of my Evolution files is 18 
months old, so I've got a real challenge ahead of me in rebuilding my 
addressbook.


BTW In the future, when I back up files to this external HD, wouldn't it 
be safer for me to partition it into two partitions - one FAT32 and the 
other ext3? Or maybe I'll just go back to using CDs and DVDs.


Thanks for your help.  Kelly


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Re: [CGUYS] Help! Update

2008-09-18 Thread Fred Holmes
I'd have at least three backup media, and use them in rotation.  Very important 
files would go on CD monthly, at least.  The broader the coverage, the better.

At 01:42 PM 9/18/2008, Kelly J. Morris wrote:
BTW In the future, when I back up files to this external HD, wouldn't it be 
safer for me to partition it into two partitions - one FAT32 and the other 
ext3? Or maybe I'll just go back to using CDs and DVDs.


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Re: [CGUYS] Help! Update

2008-09-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
BTW In the future, when I back up files to this external HD, wouldn't it 
be safer for me to partition it into two partitions - one FAT32 and the 
other ext3? Or maybe I'll just go back to using CDs and DVDs.

You should be able to do it with just two directories. Point each of the 
backups at a different directory.

The backup utilities I use never assume they have the whole drive to 
themselves. They always create a folder in the root directory to contain 
the backup. But maybe that is just a Mac thing.


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[CGUYS] Help! Update

2008-09-17 Thread Kelly J. Morris

Greetings -

For the last few days, I have been testing data recovery software and 
trying to find the folders and files from my WD 500 GB USB external 
drive. No luck, in particular with Search and Recover and Easy 
Recovery Pro.


When I originally dragged and dropped my data from my Linux partition to 
the external drive (formatted FAT32), I dragged folders that were 
created in Linux ext2 but that contained .doc, .txt, .html, .pdf, and 
.jpg files. When I subsequently saved my Windows folders to the same 
external HD, they must have overwritten the folders created in ext2. I 
assume that if I had simply copied all the files, sans folders created 
in ext2, to the HD, this might not have happened.


Since I deleted my SuSE partition and installed Ubuntu in its place, 
thinking that my files were safely backed-up, I think that I am facing a 
lost cause. My last gasp is to try a data recovery program that has a 
Linux version and see if it can see something that the others can't - 
probably not.


I downloaded TestDisk at 
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download and got the version for 
Linux ext3 to install in Ubuntu 8.041 . The filename is 
testdisk-6.10.linux26.tar.bz2 and I downloaded it to my Desktop.


Ftrom there, I'm stuck. Although everyone says it's easy, I don't have a 
good track record untarring tarred files. Some step-by-step advice about 
untarring and installing, begining with Step 2 (Step 1 being Turn on 
your computer - I got that covered! grin) would be greatly appreciated.


Seems that professional recovery firms around here charge $125/hour and 
I just can't afford that amount.


TIA   Kelly


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Re: [CGUYS] Help! Update

2008-09-17 Thread John DeCarlo
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Kelly J. Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 When I originally dragged and dropped my data from my Linux partition to
 the external drive (formatted FAT32), I dragged folders that were created in
 Linux ext2 but that contained .doc, .txt, .html, .pdf, and .jpg files. When
 I subsequently saved my Windows folders to the same external HD, they must
 have overwritten the folders created in ext2. I assume that if I had simply
 copied all the files, sans folders created in ext2, to the HD, this might
 not have happened.


Doesn't matter what file system the files were on originally.  You wrote to
the FAT32 drive from both Linux and Windows.

There could be more esoteric reasons (like you turned off the hard drive
while writing was still happening), the most common reason why the files
would be overwritten is because they have the same names.  FAT32 is not case
sensitive.

You are probably safe booting from the hard drive since this is an external,
but you might also want to have a few bootable CDs, like the Ultimate Boot
CD (http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/) or Trinity Rescue (
http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?wpid=1front_id=12), or one of many
others - you should get some good recommendations here.

I downloaded TestDisk at
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Downloadand got the version
for Linux ext3 to install in Ubuntu 8.041 . The filename
 is testdisk-6.10.linux26.tar.bz2 and I downloaded it to my Desktop.

 Ftrom there, I'm stuck. Although everyone says it's easy, I don't have a
 good track record untarring tarred files. Some step-by-step advice about
 untarring and installing, begining with Step 2 (Step 1 being Turn on your
 computer - I got that covered! grin) would be greatly appreciated.


2.  Boot to Ubuntu and log in.

If you are comfortable with the command line, here is a set of steps.  Some
of these steps you should do as root, but I forget which ones.  If any of
them don't work at first, replace x with sudo x and type in your own
password when prompted.

3.  Start a terminal session (I forget the exact command in Ubuntu, but it
should be under System or Utilities, might be called terminal or console).

4.  I like to install software in /opt, but it is up to you where you
install it, maybe under /home/kelly or the like.  In which case mkdir /opt
followed by cd /opt

5.  Copy the tar file to /opt.  cp
/home/kelly/testdisk-6.10.linux26.tar.bz2 /opt

6.  Untar it - it should create its own directory.  tar jxvf
testdisk-6.10.linux26.tar.bz2

7.  Look for the new directory - it should show up in your screen since I
added v for verbose, but just see what you have anyway.  ls -l

8.  Change to the directory.  cd testdisk-6.10/linux

9.  Choose whether to run photorec (recover photos) sudo
./photorec_static  or testdisk (recover partitions) sudo
./testdisk_static

You know, I just looked there, and I don't think it will do what you want,
either one.



-- 
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own


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