Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Thanks Tom and Stewart, I will try to get her to update her Adobe Reader. Alvin On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Yeah but the age of the reader should have little to do with it. If anything, the older reader (5.x) will be faster and less buggy than newer versions. Reader 5.0 through 5.0.4 were very buggy. If she doesn't have 5.05 what happens is unpredictable. Newer versions of Acrobat can save the PDF with greater compression. But you won't be able to take advantage of that if you have to work with such an old reader. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
>Yeah but the age of the reader should have little to do with it. If >anything, the older reader (5.x) will be faster and less buggy than >newer versions. Reader 5.0 through 5.0.4 were very buggy. If she doesn't have 5.05 what happens is unpredictable. Newer versions of Acrobat can save the PDF with greater compression. But you won't be able to take advantage of that if you have to work with such an old reader. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Wrong there are certain codings and formatting that changes over time and the newer readers know how to read it. I have had many times where stuff done in a new distiller (Adobe's program) cannot be read by an older reader. I had the problem this year helping my future son-in-law with his back state taxes that the state forms were not able to be read by Foxitreader. So it is possible this could be a problem. Stewart At 12:30 PM 4/29/2008, you wrote: Yeah but the age of the reader should have little to do with it. If anything, the older reader (5.x) will be faster and less buggy than newer versions. Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Yeah but the age of the reader should have little to do with it. If anything, the older reader (5.x) will be faster and less buggy than newer versions. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MrMike6by9 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:05 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size Adobe Reader 5.x is really old. We are running Adobe Pro 7.0.8 and Reader 8.1.2 installed on our XP machines at work. YMMV > She does have Acrobat Reader 5 for her Windows 2000. In my experience, > the Mac OS always adds the pdf extension when it creates a PDF file. > > "... I'm just curious that the workflow would be on Apple's pages if > it is faulty." > > Perhaps it's not faulty. Perhaps Windows is faulty. Perhaps... Perhaps > a glitch is always possible anywhere at any time! > > I don't have anything more to report. > We have to abandon the idea that schooling is something restricted to youth. How can it be, in a world where half the things a man knows at 20 are no longer true at 40 -- and half the things he knows at 40 hadn't been discovered when he was 20? - Sir Arthur C. Clarke (1917 -2008) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Adobe Reader 5.x is really old. We are running Adobe Pro 7.0.8 and Reader 8.1.2 installed on our XP machines at work. YMMV > She does have Acrobat Reader 5 for her Windows 2000. In my experience, > the Mac OS always adds the pdf extension when it creates a PDF file. > > "... I'm just curious that the workflow would be on Apple's pages if > it is faulty." > > Perhaps it's not faulty. Perhaps Windows is faulty. Perhaps... Perhaps > a glitch is always possible anywhere at any time! > > I don't have anything more to report. > We have to abandon the idea that schooling is something restricted to youth. How can it be, in a world where half the things a man knows at 20 are no longer true at 40 -- and half the things he knows at 40 hadn't been discovered when he was 20? - Sir Arthur C. Clarke (1917 -2008) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
She told me it said it couldn't be "decoded". I don't have the actual Windows error report. I remember that when I used the Automator, the resulting file was very small, something like around 45 KB. When I found that I could do the compression with the OS, I didn't attempt to use the Automater again, and removed its files. The compression with using the OS was much greater, about 1.1MB. She does have Acrobat Reader 5 for her Windows 2000. In my experience, the Mac OS always adds the pdf extension when it creates a PDF file. "... I'm just curious that the workflow would be on Apple's pages if it is faulty." Perhaps it's not faulty. Perhaps Windows is faulty. Perhaps... Perhaps a glitch is always possible anywhere at any time! I don't have anything more to report. Alvin On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:52 PM, Jim wrote: I wrote to the Automator author to ask if he had seen this error before and here is his reply: "Never. Could it be that the .pdf extension was missing? Or, perhaps Acrobat reader was not installed on the Windows computer? What error, exactly, was reported?" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't want to beat a dead horse if this is past history for you, Alvin, I'm just curious that the workflow would be on Apple's pages if it is faulty. Jim On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Thanks Jim. I tried it and it seemed to work, but when she received it on her Windows machine, she couldn't open it. When I used the routine built into OS 10, she had no trouble with it. Alvin On Apr 27, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Jim wrote: On Apple's Automator Actions download page is the following: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/compresspdfworkflow.html "About Compress PDF Workflow Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) does not exhibit the “Compress PDF” workflow on the Print dialog that used to appear in OS X 10.4 (Tiger). This package will restore “Compress PDF” to the Print dialog." Jim On Apr 26, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Thanks Betty. It turns out that Apple had the the solution to the problem built in to OS 10! I just didn't realize it, but someone else told me about it. Thanks, Steve Jobs and Apple!! 1. Make the PDF as usual, using the Print command and PDF > Save as PDF... 2. Open the PDF in Preview, the go File > Save As... 3. Select Format: PDF, and Quartz Filter: Reduce File Size; then Save It worked very well. Alvin On Apr 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: When you make changes in a document to make it smaller, be sure to "Save As..." to replace the original. The original may contain extraneous data that you deleted, but are still in the file for to allow an "Undo". There's only one level of "Undo" in AppleWorks and Graphic Converter, but it may be enough to bloat the file. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
I wrote to the Automator author to ask if he had seen this error before and here is his reply: "Never. Could it be that the .pdf extension was missing? Or, perhaps Acrobat reader was not installed on the Windows computer? What error, exactly, was reported?" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't want to beat a dead horse if this is past history for you, Alvin, I'm just curious that the workflow would be on Apple's pages if it is faulty. Jim On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Thanks Jim. I tried it and it seemed to work, but when she received it on her Windows machine, she couldn't open it. When I used the routine built into OS 10, she had no trouble with it. Alvin On Apr 27, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Jim wrote: On Apple's Automator Actions download page is the following: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/compresspdfworkflow.html "About Compress PDF Workflow Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) does not exhibit the “Compress PDF” workflow on the Print dialog that used to appear in OS X 10.4 (Tiger). This package will restore “Compress PDF” to the Print dialog." Jim On Apr 26, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Thanks Betty. It turns out that Apple had the the solution to the problem built in to OS 10! I just didn't realize it, but someone else told me about it. Thanks, Steve Jobs and Apple!! 1. Make the PDF as usual, using the Print command and PDF > Save as PDF... 2. Open the PDF in Preview, the go File > Save As... 3. Select Format: PDF, and Quartz Filter: Reduce File Size; then Save It worked very well. Alvin On Apr 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: When you make changes in a document to make it smaller, be sure to "Save As..." to replace the original. The original may contain extraneous data that you deleted, but are still in the file for to allow an "Undo". There's only one level of "Undo" in AppleWorks and Graphic Converter, but it may be enough to bloat the file. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
The author described the same procedure for compressing a PDF you had noting that his Automator workflow was supposed to reduce the number of steps. I had assumed that was all he was doing, using Automator to execute the same commands. Guess not! Odd that it would work on one platform and not the other. Jim On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Thanks Jim. I tried it and it seemed to work, but when she received it on her Windows machine, she couldn't open it. When I used the routine built into OS 10, she had no trouble with it. Alvin On Apr 27, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Jim wrote: On Apple's Automator Actions download page is the following: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/compresspdfworkflow.html "About Compress PDF Workflow Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) does not exhibit the “Compress PDF” workflow on the Print dialog that used to appear in OS X 10.4 (Tiger). This package will restore “Compress PDF” to the Print dialog." Jim On Apr 26, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Thanks Betty. It turns out that Apple had the the solution to the problem built in to OS 10! I just didn't realize it, but someone else told me about it. Thanks, Steve Jobs and Apple!! 1. Make the PDF as usual, using the Print command and PDF > Save as PDF... 2. Open the PDF in Preview, the go File > Save As... 3. Select Format: PDF, and Quartz Filter: Reduce File Size; then Save It worked very well. Alvin On Apr 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: When you make changes in a document to make it smaller, be sure to "Save As..." to replace the original. The original may contain extraneous data that you deleted, but are still in the file for to allow an "Undo". There's only one level of "Undo" in AppleWorks and Graphic Converter, but it may be enough to bloat the file. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Thanks Jim. I tried it and it seemed to work, but when she received it on her Windows machine, she couldn't open it. When I used the routine built into OS 10, she had no trouble with it. Alvin On Apr 27, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Jim wrote: On Apple's Automator Actions download page is the following: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/compresspdfworkflow.html "About Compress PDF Workflow Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) does not exhibit the “Compress PDF” workflow on the Print dialog that used to appear in OS X 10.4 (Tiger). This package will restore “Compress PDF” to the Print dialog." Jim On Apr 26, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Thanks Betty. It turns out that Apple had the the solution to the problem built in to OS 10! I just didn't realize it, but someone else told me about it. Thanks, Steve Jobs and Apple!! 1. Make the PDF as usual, using the Print command and PDF > Save as PDF... 2. Open the PDF in Preview, the go File > Save As... 3. Select Format: PDF, and Quartz Filter: Reduce File Size; then Save It worked very well. Alvin On Apr 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: When you make changes in a document to make it smaller, be sure to "Save As..." to replace the original. The original may contain extraneous data that you deleted, but are still in the file for to allow an "Undo". There's only one level of "Undo" in AppleWorks and Graphic Converter, but it may be enough to bloat the file. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
On Apple's Automator Actions download page is the following: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/compresspdfworkflow.html "About Compress PDF Workflow Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) does not exhibit the “Compress PDF” workflow on the Print dialog that used to appear in OS X 10.4 (Tiger). This package will restore “Compress PDF” to the Print dialog." Jim On Apr 26, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Thanks Betty. It turns out that Apple had the the solution to the problem built in to OS 10! I just didn't realize it, but someone else told me about it. Thanks, Steve Jobs and Apple!! 1. Make the PDF as usual, using the Print command and PDF > Save as PDF... 2. Open the PDF in Preview, the go File > Save As... 3. Select Format: PDF, and Quartz Filter: Reduce File Size; then Save It worked very well. Alvin On Apr 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: When you make changes in a document to make it smaller, be sure to "Save As..." to replace the original. The original may contain extraneous data that you deleted, but are still in the file for to allow an "Undo". There's only one level of "Undo" in AppleWorks and Graphic Converter, but it may be enough to bloat the file. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Send it via YouSendIt.com http://www.yousendit.com/ Alvin Auerbach wrote: I've made a Real Estate Fact Sheet PDF for my GF, which looks nice but is too large to email to her. The first page has five color photos and weighs in at 25 MB. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. What am I doing wrong? How can I bring the total PDF file size down to 10MB or less, so that I can email the file to her and she can print it? If I don't do this, it may affect our relationship! : ( Thanks in advance, Alvin * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Thanks Betty. It turns out that Apple had the the solution to the problem built in to OS 10! I just didn't realize it, but someone else told me about it. Thanks, Steve Jobs and Apple!! 1. Make the PDF as usual, using the Print command and PDF > Save as PDF... 2. Open the PDF in Preview, the go File > Save As... 3. Select Format: PDF, and Quartz Filter: Reduce File Size; then Save It worked very well. Alvin On Apr 26, 2008, at 9:51 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: When you make changes in a document to make it smaller, be sure to "Save As..." to replace the original. The original may contain extraneous data that you deleted, but are still in the file for to allow an "Undo". There's only one level of "Undo" in AppleWorks and Graphic Converter, but it may be enough to bloat the file. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
When you make changes in a document to make it smaller, be sure to "Save As..." to replace the original. The original may contain extraneous data that you deleted, but are still in the file for to allow an "Undo". There's only one level of "Undo" in AppleWorks and Graphic Converter, but it may be enough to bloat the file. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Alvin, Take the five color photos separately and open each in Preview. 'Save As' dialog box gives a sliding scale at the bottom when you select JPEG. Move the slider to the left for lower quality and your photo file size will be much smaller. I just took a +2MB photo, reduced quality to almost the lowest and the result was ~50KB. It's a bit grainy, looks OK, but real estate fact sheets are usually grainy anyway. You should be able to get the photos below 100KB, maybe as small as 40KB. You could use GC, but Preview is convenient--it's in your Dock. Import the photos back into the fact sheet. Then print to PDF. Betty Alvin Auerbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: I've made a Real Estate Fact Sheet PDF for my GF, which looks nice but is too large to email to her. The first page has five color photos and weighs in at 25 MB. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. What am I doing wrong? How can I bring the total PDF file size down to 10MB or less, so that I can email the file to her and she can print it? If I don't do this, it may affect our relationship! : ( * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
If she's your GF, and she's got the better printer, just take it to her on your flash drive. I mean, why make this more complicated than it needs to be? On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Alvin Auerbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've made a Real Estate Fact Sheet PDF for my GF, which looks nice but is > too large to email to her. The first page has five color photos and weighs > in at 25 MB. > > My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and > GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file > size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using > the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. > > What am I doing wrong? How can I bring the total PDF file size down to 10MB > or less, so that I can email the file to her and she can print it? If I > don't do this, it may affect our relationship! : ( * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
I've made a Real Estate Fact Sheet PDF for my GF, which looks nice but is too large to email to her. The first page has five color photos and weighs in at 25 MB. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. What am I doing wrong? How can I bring the total PDF file size down to 10MB or less, so that I can email the file to her and she can print it? If I don't do this, it may affect our relationship! : ( Thanks in advance, Alvin * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
