Re: [CGUYS] Not every cloud has a silver lining

2009-09-05 Thread Art Clemons
 I used to do all my computing at a data center, 40 years ago. I remember 
 being liberated. I don't want to go back to those days.


The only thing worse than being at a data center was having a single
terminal quite some distance away from a data center and discovering
that your phone line was defective.  For some reason, I just can't get
excited over using a cloud based word-processor or its equivalent for
common computing tasks, meaning of course I have little to no love for
turning computers back into the equivalent of dumb terminals.


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[CGUYS] Not every cloud has a silver lining

2009-09-04 Thread b_s-wilk

ob·fus·cate
* Synonyms: baffle, becloud, befuddle, bewilder, *cloud*, complicate, 
conceal, confound, darken, fog


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_Not every cloud has a silver lining_

There's something you won't see mentioned by too many advocates of cloud 
computing – the main attraction is making money from you


* Cory Doctorow
* guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 2 September 2009 18.00 BST

The tech press is full of people who want to tell you how completely 
awesome life is going to be when everything moves to the cloud – that 
is, when all your important storage, processing and other needs are 
handled by vast, professionally managed data-centres.


Here's something you won't see mentioned, though: the main attraction of 
the cloud to investors and entrepreneurs is the idea of making money 
from you, on a recurring, perpetual basis, for something you currently 
get for a flat rate or for free without having to give up the money or 
privacy that cloud companies hope to leverage into fortunes...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/sep/02/cory-doctorow-cloud-computing


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Re: [CGUYS] Not every cloud has a silver lining

2009-09-04 Thread mike
The main attraction for companies is always to make money from you.  If they
offer you a service worth that charge...

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

 ob·fus·cate
 * Synonyms: baffle, becloud, befuddle, bewilder, *cloud*, complicate,
 conceal, confound, darken, fog

 ---


 _Not every cloud has a silver lining_

 There's something you won't see mentioned by too many advocates of cloud
 computing – the main attraction is making money from you

* Cory Doctorow
* guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 2 September 2009 18.00 BST

 The tech press is full of people who want to tell you how completely
 awesome life is going to be when everything moves to the cloud – that is,
 when all your important storage, processing and other needs are handled by
 vast, professionally managed data-centres.

 Here's something you won't see mentioned, though: the main attraction of
 the cloud to investors and entrepreneurs is the idea of making money from
 you, on a recurring, perpetual basis, for something you currently get for a
 flat rate or for free without having to give up the money or privacy that
 cloud companies hope to leverage into fortunes...


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/sep/02/cory-doctorow-cloud-computing


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Re: [CGUYS] Not every cloud has a silver lining

2009-09-04 Thread t.piwowar

On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:42 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
The tech press is full of people who want to tell you how completely  
awesome life is going to be when everything moves to the cloud –  
that is, when all your important storage, processing and other needs  
are handled by vast, professionally managed data-centres.


I used to do all my computing at a data center, 40 years ago. I  
remember being liberated. I don't want to go back to those days.



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Re: [CGUYS] Not every cloud has a silver lining

2009-09-04 Thread Steve at Verizon
In general, I agree. But I also fondly remember being alone with a 
System 360 Mod 40 on third shift. Now THAT was a personal computer!


t.piwowar wrote:

On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:42 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
The tech press is full of people who want to tell you how completely 
awesome life is going to be when everything moves to the cloud – 
that is, when all your important storage, processing and other needs 
are handled by vast, professionally managed data-centres.


I used to do all my computing at a data center, 40 years ago. I 
remember being liberated. I don't want to go back to those days.



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