[CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]
No setup is absolutely 100% reliable, but I have yet to lose email with AOL (which does offer free IMAP access), Google or Yahoo. I have however had email and other files disappear from supposedly securely backed up providers. I do have to wonder just those folks with multiple gigs of photo or movie files will do in the near future for backup. I do store things online, to share, and for easy retrieval. But to make that my ONLY location--that's asking for big trouble... Actually if you download your mail from Gmail automatically via IMAP, you can have a locally available copy of all your mail. I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up more than location for email. Every account I've ever had crashed at one time or another, including GMail, so if I do my backups it's my fault when it crashes. At least I'll have a few other copies safely tucked away. Email is the least of the data problems. Just how important are all those personal files anyway that it really matters if they disappear? One concern, is privacy. Anything you delete from an online server is still on their backup servers. Some of it can be subpoenaed to be used against you. I guess I'd rather keep private things private and not broadcast it all to the world or have it available for someone else after I deleted it. The only way to share sensitive data without it being seen or stolen is with encrypted P2P or sneakernet. Interesting Science Friday interview on NPR this week, http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200907312, Who Owns Your Digital Data? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]
On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:11 AM, betty wrote: I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up more than location for email. I don't understand. I use IMAP from multiple locations and even leave the client running all the time on multiple computers. It all synchs up just fine. I keep my rules on one computer and it sorts my incoming emails into folders I can see from any location. The only glitch is that there are usually a few unsorted emails in my inbox that don't get sorted until the rules get applied from that one computer. I wish I could run rules on the server, but that is not really a serious problem. What do you mean by pain to clean up? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]
I was thinking the same thing..I thought that's what IMAP was. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:27 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:11 AM, betty wrote: I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up more than location for email. I don't understand. I use IMAP from multiple locations and even leave the client running all the time on multiple computers. It all synchs up just fine. I keep my rules on one computer and it sorts my incoming emails into folders I can see from any location. The only glitch is that there are usually a few unsorted emails in my inbox that don't get sorted until the rules get applied from that one computer. I wish I could run rules on the server, but that is not really a serious problem. What do you mean by pain to clean up? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]
The only drawbacks to IMAP are: * that there is a very short lag when clicking on a folder etc. for the sync to occur * this syncing consumes some bandwidth * you are keeping a copy of all your mail on the server so you may have to pay for that space there ... or your employer or whoever owns the server may put limits on the space you can use. Other than that I think IMAP it is really nifty. Some people basically do the same thing by only using webmail ... not such a bad thing with the new AJAX technology But I still personally prefer using a local email client such as Thunderbird with IMAP accounts ... instead of POP. My two bits... db TPiwowar wrote: On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:11 AM, betty wrote: I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up more than location for email. I don't understand. I use IMAP from multiple locations and even leave the client running all the time on multiple computers. It all synchs up just fine. I keep my rules on one computer and it sorts my incoming emails into folders I can see from any location. The only glitch is that there are usually a few unsorted emails in my inbox that don't get sorted until the rules get applied from that one computer. I wish I could run rules on the server, but that is not really a serious problem. What do you mean by pain to clean up? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *