[CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]

2009-08-01 Thread betty


No setup is absolutely 100% reliable, but I have yet to lose email with
AOL (which does offer free IMAP access), Google or Yahoo.  I have
however had email and other files disappear from supposedly securely
backed up providers.  I do have to wonder just those folks with multiple
gigs of photo or movie files will do in the near future for backup.


 I do store things online, to share, and for easy retrieval. But to make that 
my ONLY location--that's asking for big trouble...

Actually if you download your mail from Gmail automatically via IMAP,
you can have a locally available copy of all your mail.  


I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up more than 
location for
email. Every account I've ever had crashed at one time or another, including 
GMail, so if
I do my backups it's my fault when it crashes. At least I'll have a few other 
copies
safely tucked away. Email is the least of the data problems.

Just how important are all those personal files anyway that it really matters 
if they
disappear? One concern, is privacy. Anything you delete from an online server is
still on their backup servers. Some of it can be subpoenaed  to be used against 
you. I
guess I'd rather keep private things private and not broadcast it all to the 
world or
have it available for someone else after I deleted it.

The only way to share sensitive data without it being seen or stolen is with 
encrypted
P2P or sneakernet. Interesting Science Friday interview on NPR this week,
http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200907312, Who Owns Your Digital 
Data?


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Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:11 AM, betty wrote:
I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up  
more than location for

email.


I don't understand. I use IMAP from multiple locations and even leave  
the client running all the time on multiple computers. It all synchs  
up just fine. I keep my rules on one computer and it sorts my  
incoming emails into folders I can see from any location. The only  
glitch is that there are usually a few unsorted emails in my inbox  
that don't get sorted until the rules get applied from that one  
computer. I wish I could run rules on the server, but that is not  
really a serious problem.


What do you mean by pain to clean up?






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Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]

2009-08-01 Thread mike
I was thinking the same thing..I thought that's what IMAP was.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:27 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:11 AM, betty wrote:

 I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up more
 than location for
 email.


 I don't understand. I use IMAP from multiple locations and even leave the
 client running all the time on multiple computers. It all synchs up just
 fine. I keep my rules on one computer and it sorts my incoming emails into
 folders I can see from any location. The only glitch is that there are
 usually a few unsorted emails in my inbox that don't get sorted until the
 rules get applied from that one computer. I wish I could run rules on the
 server, but that is not really a serious problem.

 What do you mean by pain to clean up?







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Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]

2009-08-01 Thread db

The only drawbacks to IMAP are:

   *  that there is a very short lag when clicking on a folder etc. for
 the sync to occur
   * this syncing consumes some bandwidth
   * you are keeping a copy of all your mail on the server so you may
 have to pay for that space there ... or your employer or whoever
 owns the server may put limits on the space you can use.

Other than that I think IMAP it is really nifty.

Some people basically do the same thing by only using webmail ... not 
such a bad thing with the new AJAX technology


But I still personally prefer using a local email client such as 
Thunderbird with IMAP accounts ... instead of POP.


My two bits...

db

TPiwowar wrote:

On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:11 AM, betty wrote:
I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up 
more than location for

email.


I don't understand. I use IMAP from multiple locations and even leave 
the client running all the time on multiple computers. It all synchs 
up just fine. I keep my rules on one computer and it sorts my incoming 
emails into folders I can see from any location. The only glitch is 
that there are usually a few unsorted emails in my inbox that don't 
get sorted until the rules get applied from that one computer. I wish 
I could run rules on the server, but that is not really a serious 
problem.


What do you mean by pain to clean up?






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