Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
They must provide you a means to receive your bill she admitted as much on TV. They do not have to account for each text message or data packet served though. Like Is aid Verizon details each phone call, but only gives me a lump sum of text and data (Believe me I do not want a complete listing of text messages, my son one month had over 1000 on his unlimited and had 700 on his out of network). Stewart At 11:04 AM 8/20/2007, you wrote: She's not just sending text, she's getting updates for twitter. If she has two dozen friends she's watching, that could be hundreds and hundreds a day alone there. I also think, I'm not sure, but by law the telcos have to give you the option of a paper bill. AT$T lets you go all digital though if you choose. Mike Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
She's not just sending text, she's getting updates for twitter. If she has two dozen friends she's watching, that could be hundreds and hundreds a day alone there. I also think, I'm not sure, but by law the telcos have to give you the option of a paper bill. AT$T lets you go all digital though if you choose. Mike On 8/20/07, Rev. Stewart Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been a Verizon customer for many ears now and with 4 phones > two teenagers I have never gotten a bill that had to be boxed. > > My oldest is at college and he uses his phone as a landline > phone. He text messages with the best of them. I have had to pay > overages for both text and phone service, but never have they > detailed all the text messages. (nor do they detail data, just totals.) > > They do detail all phone calls. > > You are right Tom they (AT&T) blew it. But what do you expect for a baby > bell! > > Stewart > > > > At 10:25 AM 8/20/2007, you wrote: > >While it is distressing to think of someone sending 1,000 text messages a > >day, it is even more distressing to have a supposed technology company -- > >AT&T -- be so ignorant about how the technology they sell is used. Apple > >handed AT&T the future and AT&T didn't know what to do with it. I think > >this is what is causing the amusement over the fat bills and is yet > >another example of why legislating oligopolies is bad management. > > Rev. Stewart A. Marshall > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Prince of Peace > Ozark, AL SL 82 > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
I have been a Verizon customer for many ears now and with 4 phones two teenagers I have never gotten a bill that had to be boxed. My oldest is at college and he uses his phone as a landline phone. He text messages with the best of them. I have had to pay overages for both text and phone service, but never have they detailed all the text messages. (nor do they detail data, just totals.) They do detail all phone calls. You are right Tom they (AT&T) blew it. But what do you expect for a baby bell! Stewart At 10:25 AM 8/20/2007, you wrote: While it is distressing to think of someone sending 1,000 text messages a day, it is even more distressing to have a supposed technology company -- AT&T -- be so ignorant about how the technology they sell is used. Apple handed AT&T the future and AT&T didn't know what to do with it. I think this is what is causing the amusement over the fat bills and is yet another example of why legislating oligopolies is bad management. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
>the phone bill cost AT$T seven bux just to send it to her. While it is distressing to think of someone sending 1,000 text messages a day, it is even more distressing to have a supposed technology company -- AT&T -- be so ignorant about how the technology they sell is used. Apple handed AT&T the future and AT&T didn't know what to do with it. I think this is what is causing the amusement over the fat bills and is yet another example of why legislating oligopolies is bad management. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
On Aug 18, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: But from what I see every day, it's getting worse as far as motorist distraction is concerned. A young lady that I knew of, but did not know personally, killed herself while driving her car one night about a year or so ago. Her cell phone was found at the scene near her lifeless body and was determined to have been in use for the purpose of sending a text message at the instant she slammed into a tree at high speed. Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
Actually this is common behavior, and also sad in a very frightening way. Yes. I could point out that DC has a law that prohibits use of handheld cell phones when driving. It isn't, and can't be enforced. I've bicycle commuted in downtown DC for 6 years, daily, and obeyed the traffic laws. And having some experience, I don't expect too much from motorists. But from what I see every day, it's getting worse as far as motorist distraction is concerned. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
On 8/18/07, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Actually this is common behavior, and also sad in a very frightening > way. To be distracted by various visual and audible devices while > driving no longer appears to be an issue of concern for most motorists. > I agree. I regularly see people listening to audio books take out the CD, find the package, find the next CD, put in the next CD, driving all the while. People regularly scan through radio stations while driving. I often see people turning around to talk to someone in the back seat while driving. Not to mention ogling a yard sale or pretty woman or Victorian house (depending on personal preferences) instead of watching the street. In fact, 99 out of 100 people will stare at me funny when I say I passed an accident but don't know what happened. "Why don't you know the details?" "Because I was driving and the cars around me were already acting unpredictably - didn't want an accident on my side." "You are weird" -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
On Aug 17, 2007, at 2:39 PM, mike wrote: After listening to her on TWIT, the truly frightening thing is she admited to talking and texting on the iPhone while driving. Actually this is common behavior, and also sad in a very frightening way. To be distracted by various visual and audible devices while driving no longer appears to be an issue of concern for most motorists. Automakers even offer such devices as either standard or optional equipment. Computers with keyboards that slide out of the dash are becoming an increasingly popular option. People attach radios and GPS units to their windshields without any thought at all to the attendant loss of a clear and unobstructed view through the windshield. Indeed, almost all such devices mounted in that manner are illegal almost everywhere in the United States. Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
After listening to her on TWIT, the truly frightening thing is she admited to talking and texting on the iPhone while driving. How long till the inevitable twitter update 'I just got in a car accident, back later.' Mike On 8/17/07, Daniel Else <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They featured her on All Things Considered last evening (she was jabbering > away while driving down the highway). She is a "life blogger," and one > wonders (a) why and (b) why anyone else would be interested in putting her > and her doings on line. Are there perhaps more interesting things to do with > each day's 24 hours? What does she do when she takes a potty break? I guess > we'll have to watch and find out. > > Dan > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
They featured her on All Things Considered last evening (she was jabbering away while driving down the highway). She is a "life blogger," and one wonders (a) why and (b) why anyone else would be interested in putting her and her doings on line. Are there perhaps more interesting things to do with each day's 24 hours? What does she do when she takes a potty break? I guess we'll have to watch and find out. Dan * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
She's not a teenage girl. I'm surprised the PC article didn't mention who it was. If you want to hear her talk about it, listen to the latest macbreak weekly with Leo. http://www.justin.tv/ijustineThat's one of the ways to see her. She said on macbreak that the phone bill cost AT$T seven bux just to send it to her. http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/13/iphone-bill-unboxed-by-justine-tv/ That's a video of her unboxing her bill...yes, they sent it in a BOX. Mike On 8/17/07, Snyder, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tom, I guess when it comes to teenage girls, that number is not too high > (for them). From their point of view we are fogeys, too. > > Mark Snyder > -Original Message- > But the recipient of one of these bills claims to send 30,000 text > messages a month. That's 1,000 per day, or assuming she does sleep > occasionally, about 1 per minute all day long. > > Is this possible? > > What is happening to our youth? Or am I being a fogey? > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] 30,000 Text Messages a Month?
Tom, I guess when it comes to teenage girls, that number is not too high (for them). From their point of view we are fogeys, too. Mark Snyder -Original Message- But the recipient of one of these bills claims to send 30,000 text messages a month. That's 1,000 per day, or assuming she does sleep occasionally, about 1 per minute all day long. Is this possible? What is happening to our youth? Or am I being a fogey? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived