Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
There is no such thing as bad publicity, it would be worse if no one was talking about them at all. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM, tjpa wrote: > "This Microsoft store is trying too hard" > > http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/17/this-microsoft-store-is-trying-too-hard/ > > "This is embarrassing. Not only are the Microsoft Stores a clear copy of > Apple Stores, but now the employees are trying to be spontaneous and stir up > customer reactions with a weird bastardization of Improv Anywhere." > > > > Gosh they even have the same furniture as my Apple store. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
They look like they are having fun, not sure why crunchgear seems so pissed off about it. Anyone ever heard of Johnny Rockets? They do the same thing there and that's been before improv anywhere. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:19 PM, mike wrote: > There is no such thing as bad publicity, it would be worse if no one was > talking about them at all. > > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM, tjpa wrote: > >> "This Microsoft store is trying too hard" >> >> http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/17/this-microsoft-store-is-trying-too-hard/ >> >> "This is embarrassing. Not only are the Microsoft Stores a clear copy of >> Apple Stores, but now the employees are trying to be spontaneous and stir up >> customer reactions with a weird bastardization of Improv Anywhere." >> >> >> >> Gosh they even have the same furniture as my Apple store. >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM, tjpa wrote: > "This Microsoft store is trying too hard" > http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/17/this-microsoft-store-is-trying-too-hard/ > > "This is embarrassing. Not only are the Microsoft Stores a clear copy of > Apple Stores, but now the employees are trying to be spontaneous and stir up > customer reactions with a weird bastardization of Improv Anywhere." White folks can't dance! I saw no one in that entire store who could teach them how. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
On Nov 22, 2009, at 5:25 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: White folks can't dance! I saw no one in that entire store who could teach them how. Pity the poor slob who might have gone there to buy a computer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
> "This Microsoft store is trying too hard" > http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/17/this-microsoft-store-is-trying-too-hard/ Two words for CrunchGear: Lighten up. I've seen worse than this on Southwest flights more than once. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
At 03:15 PM 11/22/2009, tjpa wrote: >Gosh they even have the same furniture as my Apple store. Looks like Copyright infringement to me. "Look and Feel". Has Apple trademarked the appearance of its stores? Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 5:59 PM, tjpa wrote: > Pity the poor slob who might have gone there to buy a computer. Why were they doing a country and western "line dance" in an urban California computer store? It did 100% fit the demographics of all the employees and customers, but still... Actually, why am I not surprised? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
Quoting tjpa : "This Microsoft store is trying too hard" http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/17/this-microsoft-store-is-trying-too-hard/ "This is embarrassing. Not only are the Microsoft Stores a clear copy Could have stopped at "This is embarrassing." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: Has Apple trademarked the appearance of its stores? Is this inability to innovate to be blamed on excessive government regulation of a predatory monopolist or is M$ just pathetic? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
It is an extremely ancient practice that if you see something that works you imitate it. It is essentially a form of flattery! So feel flattered Tom, or should I say Steve Jobs. Stewart At 10:45 AM 11/23/2009, you wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: Has Apple trademarked the appearance of its stores? Is this inability to innovate to be blamed on excessive government regulation of a predatory monopolist or is M$ just pathetic? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
Not so flattering in business, especially when the larger competitor does it. M$ also seem to be increasing their copying of Apple. Copying Apple for Windows (admitting this just gat a VP slapped-down), Zune, Stores. I would not be surprised to see Ballmer imitating Jobs' attire. If Apple turned a tight corner, would M$' neck snap? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- It is an extremely ancient practice that if you see something that works you imitate it. It is essentially a form of flattery! So feel flattered Tom, or should I say Steve Jobs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
Come off it. It is done all the time. Many companies use similar ad marketing techniques to get customers into their doors. Everyone is trying to come up with an Ipod killer. Us Car Manufacturers are imitating their import cousins to see how they do it so they can do it better. Right now Apple has a good track record and has done many things right. So many companies are looking to them to see how to do it. That is reality. I am not saying a company should not have an R&D group, but they very often will be taking apart and looking over stuff that is successful to see how to do it better. For every Tom Edison, their are 100,000 Joe blows working R&D. I read an article the other day that said that the developer of Itunes almost did not work at Apple. He worked for someone else and they were not interested in developing what latter became Itunes. Stewart At 11:35 AM 11/23/2009, you wrote: Not so flattering in business, especially when the larger competitor does it. M$ also seem to be increasing their copying of Apple. Copying Apple for Windows (admitting this just gat a VP slapped-down), Zune, Stores. I would not be surprised to see Ballmer imitating Jobs' attire. If Apple turned a tight corner, would M$' neck snap? Thank you, Mark Snyder * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
Reverend, I deliver one of your sermons, verbatim, without any attribution - you are fine? Admittedly, this gets done a little differently in business, but seldom do businesses deploy the wholesale copying of one competitor the way M$ are at present. Ford, to pick one, does not copy the entire product line of another carmaker; they try to make sure their products compare well. Most companies still try to distinguish their brands. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Come off it. It is done all the time. Many companies use similar ad marketing techniques to get customers into their doors. Everyone is trying to come up with an Ipod killer. Us Car Manufacturers are imitating their import cousins to see how they do it so they can do it better. Right now Apple has a good track record and has done many things right. So many companies are looking to them to see how to do it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
In retail space I read just this week that Apple made more money per square foot than anyone else anywhere. Who else would look to for inspiration? I have not been in a MS store so I don't know how much they are copying their style. Has anyone actually been in one? On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) < mark.sny...@ngc.com> wrote: > Not so flattering in business, especially when the larger competitor > does it. M$ also seem to be increasing their copying of Apple. Copying > Apple for Windows (admitting this just gat a VP slapped-down), Zune, > Stores. I would not be surprised to see Ballmer imitating Jobs' attire. > If Apple turned a tight corner, would M$' neck snap? > > Thank you, > > Mark Snyder > -Original Message- > > It is an extremely ancient practice that if you see something that > works you imitate it. > > It is essentially a form of flattery! > > So feel flattered Tom, or should I say Steve Jobs. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crunchgear Starts Pissing Contest Over Silly M$ Store Antics
Sure look like a fool. :-) If someone rips my stuff off, fine, I am ripping others stuff when I put it together. (It is called research) It works for me but it might not work for you. What MS has done is emulate the Apple store. The problems inherent in that is that it might not work for MS. That is a huge risk. I for one have never been in an Apple store and might not ever be in an MS store, but as I said it is a huge risk. What works for Apple will probably not work for MS. Just like you ripping off (I call it borrowing) one of my sermons. It is designed for my parish and my people. It probably would not work for you. Now if you took it and massaged it and reworked it to make it yours and for your locale it would probably work much better. Your initial statements were what triggered this. If MS just took the Apple store and then dropped MS over on top of it, it will never work, MS has to make this their store. Otherwise it is a cheap and terrible clone. We will have to wait and see what happens to it. But as I said before emulation has been the highest form of flattery for millennia. How it is done and if it should be done is a whole notehr discussion. Straight cloning will never work. Not only is it illegal in some realms (patent laws) but it also is not your product at that point. I should use the term emulation. You are trying to emulate that which works, but you must make it your own. So only time will tell if it works. Stewart At 12:15 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote: Reverend, I deliver one of your sermons, verbatim, without any attribution - you are fine? Admittedly, this gets done a little differently in business, but seldom do businesses deploy the wholesale copying of one competitor the way M$ are at present. Ford, to pick one, does not copy the entire product line of another carmaker; they try to make sure their products compare well. Most companies still try to distinguish their brands. Thank you, Mark Snyder Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
