Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
The iPhone has a sim slot right on the top. You push a tiny button and it pops out. Mason b_s-wilk wrote: The discrepancy may be for people who bought the iPhone and use it with PAYGO. That wouldn't register as a regular ATT account, since you don't have to give personal information to sign up. The phone can't be opened to switch SIM cards, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been done successfully, either by reprogramming externally or opening the iPhone and voiding the warranty [safer than putting it in a blender]. Does it have a SIM? Betty There were discrepancies between numbers ATT posted of Iphone sales and numbers Apple posted of I phone sales. When it all boiled down it seems Apple may have included # shipped by end of quarter and ATT counted actual number sold by end of quarter and the difference was in inventory still in transit. The number was significant, about 100,000 phones, with Apple reporting 250,000 (approx) and ATT reporting less than 150,000. So you can understand the panic. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
The discrepancy may be for people who bought the iPhone and use it with PAYGO. That wouldn't register as a regular ATT account, since you don't have to give personal information to sign up. The phone can't be opened to switch SIM cards, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been done successfully, either by reprogramming externally or opening the iPhone and voiding the warranty [safer than putting it in a blender]. Does it have a SIM? Betty There were discrepancies between numbers ATT posted of Iphone sales and numbers Apple posted of I phone sales. When it all boiled down it seems Apple may have included # shipped by end of quarter and ATT counted actual number sold by end of quarter and the difference was in inventory still in transit. The number was significant, about 100,000 phones, with Apple reporting 250,000 (approx) and ATT reporting less than 150,000. So you can understand the panic. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
Yes, all AT$T phones do. Mike On 7/28/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it have a SIM? Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
At 12:02 PM 7/26/2007, Tom Piwowar wrote: Interesting to note that Apple shares dropped 7% on Tuesday on a bogus news story that iPhone sales were not up to expectations. On Wed shares were up 10% on news that the story was bogus and news that Apple profits were up 78%. So you are right, we have to be circumspect about every news report. So who is going to get nailed for manipulating the market? Fred Holmes * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
Proving? Not until it has been demonstrated. All they have done is claim. There are enough Apple-haters out there that I reserve judgement on any such claims until demonstrated. The whole Brian Krebs/David Maynor/WiFi fiasco did that to me. Actually the person discovering this vulnerability is an iPhone fan. One reporter asked him if he was going to stop using his iPhone due to the problem. He replied that the only way to get his iPhone away from him is to pry it out of his cold dead hands. Anyone who has used the iPhone, loves the iPhone. Except for the knee-jerk Apple haters, of course. Interesting to note that Apple shares dropped 7% on Tuesday on a bogus news story that iPhone sales were not up to expectations. On Wed shares were up 10% on news that the story was bogus and news that Apple profits were up 78%. So you are right, we have to be circumspect about every news report. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
Apple knows, and the exploit wasn't released to the wild. I see a fix coming soon in it's future. Mike On 7/24/07, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, proving that the widely popular smart phone is vulnerable not only to data theft but also to being turned into a remote snooping device. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2161696,00.asp?kc=EWKNLNAV072407FEA1 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
At 11:36 AM -0400 7/24/07, Chris Dunford wrote: A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, proving Proving? Not until it has been demonstrated. All they have done is claim. There are enough Apple-haters out there that I reserve judgement on any such claims until demonstrated. The whole Brian Krebs/David Maynor/WiFi fiasco did that to me. that the widely popular smart phone is vulnerable not only to data theft but also to being turned into a remote snooping device. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2161696,00.asp?kc=EWKNLNAV072407FEA1 -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
Actually they did prove it. http://www.securityevaluators.com/iphone/ at the end of the video they show the dump they get from the iphone among other things. Mike On 7/24/07, Roger D. Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:36 AM -0400 7/24/07, Chris Dunford wrote: A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, proving Proving? Not until it has been demonstrated. All they have done is claim. There are enough Apple-haters out there that I reserve judgement on any such claims until demonstrated. The whole Brian Krebs/David Maynor/WiFi fiasco did that to me. that the widely popular smart phone is vulnerable not only to data theft but also to being turned into a remote snooping device. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2161696,00.asp?kc=EWKNLNAV072407FEA1 -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, proving that the widely popular smart phone is vulnerable not only to data theft but also to being turned into a remote snooping device. The vulnerability is a new variant of a known issue with the Safari browser. So, strictly speaking, it was not the phone that was breached, but the browser. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
Most windows breaches are due to third party software or the browser...so strictly speaking it isn't the pc being compromised. Mike On 7/24/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A security firm has run the first remote exploits on Apple's iPhone, proving that the widely popular smart phone is vulnerable not only to data theft but also to being turned into a remote snooping device. The vulnerability is a new variant of a known issue with the Safari browser. So, strictly speaking, it was not the phone that was breached, but the browser. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
Most windows breaches are due to third party software or the browser...so strictly speaking it isn't the pc being compromised. The day after Monday is Tuesday. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
On 7/24/07, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most windows breaches are due to third party software or the browser...so strictly speaking it isn't the pc being compromised. Not sure what you are trying to say. If you want to say that an Oracle vulnerability isn't a Windows vulnerability, you are right. So in that respect, if you subscribe to Secunia or Vulnwatch, most vulnerabilities are indeed in non-OS software. If you want to say that Microsoft patches that are needed on a very regular basis are due to third party software, I will respectfully disagree. And if it is an Internet Explorer problem, that is a Windows OS problem - the two are inextricably linked on purpose. I don't believe that Safari and the iPhone are inextricably linked. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
