Re: [CGUYS] tags
Huh? It's true Gmail calls it's filters 'labels' (not 'tags'), but how does that mean *I'm* doing anything wrong? I was the one making the point that this is where we commonly see tags today - on the web, not in file systems like you brought up. I won't argue that tags may be the future. My other point though had to do with the hassle of having to *manually* tag items. I really don't see why your spending time adding tags to your emails is going to help you recall a post or thread from history. Why can't Gmail et all _automatically_ add tags depending on the content of the post/email? But then, it wouldn't be 'tags' it would be 'keywords'? On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But *today*, the term 'tags' and 'tagging' refers to posts and pictures on the web. And this is sent by Tony from a GMail account? TONY, YOU ARE DOING I ALL WRONG One of the best examples of tagging is GMail. You can easily define rules to process incoming mail with some rough tags and then apply specific tags manually based on the content. - Everything from CGuys gets auto tagged CGuys and DiscussionList - I tag Mac stuff Mac and Windows stuff Other. - I tag stuff about photography Photo Etc. Etc. I can then more easily track down something I read in some discussion list on photography and Macs. Without tags I would be hunting through every folder where I stored discussion list posts. Tags are the future. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] tags
Thank you. But I think it's only recently become common. I've been online since...I don't remember when, maybe 93'. And only in the last few months have I seen this term posted all over the place. But I guess every so often computer users get bored and have to either make things up or resurrect old terms. The last time I was confused about a search term was the Bolian(sp) search. You can probably tell I'm not going to be the inventor of the next big search engine empire. Instead I'm working on my tornado busting idea. Anyone have a spare satellite with microwave beam technology? Jeff M On May 25, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Tony B wrote: No, a 'tag' is a common search term. e.g. A post about Holsteins could include the tags: milk,cows,bulls,holstein . These are meant to make searching for the topic easier. I'm also seeing a lot of search 'clouds' - graphic representations of the most used search terms/tags. Such a cloud may lead you to information without your needing to think of the 'proper' search term. What's odd is a lot of software now is trying to get users to enter tags separately, but it seems to me as long as the relevant words are used in the posts then search engines shouldn't need the help to find things. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Jeff Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone explain to me what a tag is? I keep seeing this term around the web. And it just seemed to crop up not to long ago. If it's what I think it is, didn't we used to call these links? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * Don't be humble... you're not that great. Golda Meir * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] tags
But I think it's only recently become common. I've been online since...I don't remember when, maybe 93'. And only in the last few months have I seen this term posted all over the place. But I guess every so often computer users get bored and have to either make things up or resurrect old terms. The idea of tagging is a powerful replacement for the old file-folder metaphor. The problem with the old file-folder metaphor was that a file could only be in one place at a time, unless it was copied (but copying files leads to bigger messes) or pointed to with aliases/shortcuts (but that leads to a different kind of messiness). Tags is a different way to look at organization that is much more powerful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] tags
This and true search was one of the big ideas MS was going to bring to vista with it's new filesystem that they couldn't get working. I haven't heard anything lately about if they got winfs working and will be released at all. Mike On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I think it's only recently become common. I've been online since...I don't remember when, maybe 93'. And only in the last few months have I seen this term posted all over the place. But I guess every so often computer users get bored and have to either make things up or resurrect old terms. The idea of tagging is a powerful replacement for the old file-folder metaphor. The problem with the old file-folder metaphor was that a file could only be in one place at a time, unless it was copied (but copying files leads to bigger messes) or pointed to with aliases/shortcuts (but that leads to a different kind of messiness). Tags is a different way to look at organization that is much more powerful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] tags
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jeff Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. But I think it's only recently become common. I've been online since...I don't remember when, maybe 93'. And only in the last few months have I seen this term posted all over the place. I have only seen it used commonly in the past two or three years. But then I read magazines and blogs about this kind of thing. But I guess every so often computer users get bored and have to either make things up or resurrect old terms. The last time I was confused about a search term was the Bolian(sp) search. Man, Boolean searches are older than computers. I did Boolean searches in college in 1978. And Boolean algebra is much, much older. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] tags
Let's not confuse the issue. Tag based file systems like WinFS may, in the future, replace the folder structures we now know. But *today*, the term 'tags' and 'tagging' refers to posts and pictures on the web. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
