Re: Is ManifoldCF OSI certified?
Hi, Just tried to upload the modified version but the max file size is 10MB, which would mean I won't be able to add the jar files I've added. Any option to upload the modified zip file which is about 167MB? Regards, H.Ozawa 2011/12/13 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com: You can go to the ticket here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-314 As I am sure you know, please make sure when attaching any files that you click the Grant license to ASF radio button. Thanks! Karl On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to have your help! I'm going to go ahead then and create a combined ticket that you can attach your combined patch to. Then one of us will have the fun of trying to figure out exactly how to commit it. :-) Karl On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Hitoshi Ozawa htshoz...@gmail.com wrote: The i18n issues, as I said before, are not trivial, and may well require several iterations to get right. Tab names are just one aspect of it. This is one reason I wanted to separate any i18n contribution from the database contribution. Too late. Almost finished. It's seems to be working alright. Forgot to introduce myself. I'm the one who I18N and L10N ESB Mule and is currently active in Liferay. I'm the one of the top on this page: http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/statistics Japanese Wiki pages I've written: http://www.liferay.com/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%83%89%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A5%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88 Mule Japanese page: http://www.mulesoft.org/documentation/display/JPNDOC/Mule+Guides Regards, H.Ozawa
Re: Is ManifoldCF OSI certified?
How big is the patch if you simply do not include the jars? I can download these myself from a URL. Karl On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: 167MB is the entire size of our current binary deliverable. As a zip that is huge. Can't this be broken up? If it can't your only real choice is to create a project in googlecode and then I'd need to incorporate the changes piecemeal. But now I'm really very curious as to why this patch is so large. Perhaps you can do a bit of analysis to determine why? Karl On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Hitoshi Ozawa htshoz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just tried to upload the modified version but the max file size is 10MB, which would mean I won't be able to add the jar files I've added. Any option to upload the modified zip file which is about 167MB? Regards, H.Ozawa 2011/12/13 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com: You can go to the ticket here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-314 As I am sure you know, please make sure when attaching any files that you click the Grant license to ASF radio button. Thanks! Karl On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to have your help! I'm going to go ahead then and create a combined ticket that you can attach your combined patch to. Then one of us will have the fun of trying to figure out exactly how to commit it. :-) Karl On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Hitoshi Ozawa htshoz...@gmail.com wrote: The i18n issues, as I said before, are not trivial, and may well require several iterations to get right. Tab names are just one aspect of it. This is one reason I wanted to separate any i18n contribution from the database contribution. Too late. Almost finished. It's seems to be working alright. Forgot to introduce myself. I'm the one who I18N and L10N ESB Mule and is currently active in Liferay. I'm the one of the top on this page: http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/statistics Japanese Wiki pages I've written: http://www.liferay.com/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%83%89%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A5%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88 Mule Japanese page: http://www.mulesoft.org/documentation/display/JPNDOC/Mule+Guides Regards, H.Ozawa
Re: Is ManifoldCF OSI certified?
The i18n issues, as I said before, are not trivial, and may well require several iterations to get right. Tab names are just one aspect of it. This is one reason I wanted to separate any i18n contribution from the database contribution. Too late. Almost finished. It's seems to be working alright. Forgot to introduce myself. I'm the one who I18N and L10N ESB Mule and is currently active in Liferay. I'm the one of the top on this page: http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/statistics Japanese Wiki pages I've written: http://www.liferay.com/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%83%89%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A5%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88 Mule Japanese page: http://www.mulesoft.org/documentation/display/JPNDOC/Mule+Guides Regards, H.Ozawa
Re: Is ManifoldCF OSI certified?
Glad to have your help! I'm going to go ahead then and create a combined ticket that you can attach your combined patch to. Then one of us will have the fun of trying to figure out exactly how to commit it. :-) Karl On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Hitoshi Ozawa htshoz...@gmail.com wrote: The i18n issues, as I said before, are not trivial, and may well require several iterations to get right. Tab names are just one aspect of it. This is one reason I wanted to separate any i18n contribution from the database contribution. Too late. Almost finished. It's seems to be working alright. Forgot to introduce myself. I'm the one who I18N and L10N ESB Mule and is currently active in Liferay. I'm the one of the top on this page: http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/statistics Japanese Wiki pages I've written: http://www.liferay.com/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%83%89%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A5%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88 Mule Japanese page: http://www.mulesoft.org/documentation/display/JPNDOC/Mule+Guides Regards, H.Ozawa
Re: Is ManifoldCF OSI certified?
You can go to the ticket here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-314 As I am sure you know, please make sure when attaching any files that you click the Grant license to ASF radio button. Thanks! Karl On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to have your help! I'm going to go ahead then and create a combined ticket that you can attach your combined patch to. Then one of us will have the fun of trying to figure out exactly how to commit it. :-) Karl On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Hitoshi Ozawa htshoz...@gmail.com wrote: The i18n issues, as I said before, are not trivial, and may well require several iterations to get right. Tab names are just one aspect of it. This is one reason I wanted to separate any i18n contribution from the database contribution. Too late. Almost finished. It's seems to be working alright. Forgot to introduce myself. I'm the one who I18N and L10N ESB Mule and is currently active in Liferay. I'm the one of the top on this page: http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/statistics Japanese Wiki pages I've written: http://www.liferay.com/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%83%89%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A5%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88 Mule Japanese page: http://www.mulesoft.org/documentation/display/JPNDOC/Mule+Guides Regards, H.Ozawa
Re: Is ManifoldCF OSI certified?
Hi, ManifoldCF is Apache licensed. Apache projects cannot redistribute GPL jars, but that is not a problem, because we probably do not need to. What we usually do in such cases is download the dependencies at build time, either automatically through the maven build, or by using the ant download-dependencies target. For JDBC drivers that are used by the core database layers, luckily they are loaded via reflection so that lack of a driver will not prevent the build from completing, although the user will need to download the driver and build if they intend to use that driver. The standard tag library stuff is more problematic it that does not have redistribution license acceptable for Apache, but I believe the glassfish stuff is acceptable. I will verify and get back to you. The i18n issues, as I said before, are not trivial, and may well require several iterations to get right. Tab names are just one aspect of it. This is one reason I wanted to separate any i18n contribution from the database contribution. Thanks, Karl 2011/12/12 Hitoshi Ozawa ozawa_hito...@ogis-ri.co.jp: Hi, I'm checking on the MySQL licenses and it seems MySQL Connector/J is GPL v2 license with exception clause for FOSS. http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception/ To be classified as FOSS, however, it seems the software has to be OSI certified. Is Apache ManifoldCF OSI Certified? This software is OSI Certified Open Source Software. OSI Certified is a certification mark of the Open Source Initiative. Does somebody know the license to JSTL libraries? I can't find any license in the jstl-api-1.2.jar and jstl-impl-1.2.jar files. The files are download-able from Oracle's GlassFish project page but there's not license page. BTW, I just created a Java message class to read String from properties file. Seems you've hard-coded tab names into the Java source files, which means I have to I18N all references to tab names or it won't work. Regards, H.Ozawa
Re: Is ManifoldCF OSI certified?
Glassfish is OK to redistribute; we already have two such jars under redistribution: Directory of C:\wip\mcf\trunk\lib 02/27/2011 08:49 AM 1,026,818 jsp-2.1-glassfish-2.1.v20091210.jar 02/27/2011 08:49 AM 135,424 jsp-api-2.1-glassfish-2.1.v20091210.jar This is what was recorded in the license file for those: This product includes JSP API jars. License: Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL) v1.0 (https://glassfish.dev.java.net/public/CDDLv1.0.html) Karl On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, ManifoldCF is Apache licensed. Apache projects cannot redistribute GPL jars, but that is not a problem, because we probably do not need to. What we usually do in such cases is download the dependencies at build time, either automatically through the maven build, or by using the ant download-dependencies target. For JDBC drivers that are used by the core database layers, luckily they are loaded via reflection so that lack of a driver will not prevent the build from completing, although the user will need to download the driver and build if they intend to use that driver. The standard tag library stuff is more problematic it that does not have redistribution license acceptable for Apache, but I believe the glassfish stuff is acceptable. I will verify and get back to you. The i18n issues, as I said before, are not trivial, and may well require several iterations to get right. Tab names are just one aspect of it. This is one reason I wanted to separate any i18n contribution from the database contribution. Thanks, Karl 2011/12/12 Hitoshi Ozawa ozawa_hito...@ogis-ri.co.jp: Hi, I'm checking on the MySQL licenses and it seems MySQL Connector/J is GPL v2 license with exception clause for FOSS. http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception/ To be classified as FOSS, however, it seems the software has to be OSI certified. Is Apache ManifoldCF OSI Certified? This software is OSI Certified Open Source Software. OSI Certified is a certification mark of the Open Source Initiative. Does somebody know the license to JSTL libraries? I can't find any license in the jstl-api-1.2.jar and jstl-impl-1.2.jar files. The files are download-able from Oracle's GlassFish project page but there's not license page. BTW, I just created a Java message class to read String from properties file. Seems you've hard-coded tab names into the Java source files, which means I have to I18N all references to tab names or it won't work. Regards, H.Ozawa
