RE: would it be possible some of technologies get online state simultaneously?

2015-01-19 Thread Nakamura, Yusuke (ADITJ/SWG)
Hi Patrik

Thank you very much for your reply.

That is doable. With the Session API and its usage of session specific routing 
tables, all session routing tables have the default route set.
The default routing table is the only one that has exactly one default route 
set, this in order not to change the normal behavior if sessions are created.

Sorry Patrik. I didn't understand what this means. Do you mind explaining this 
in more detail?

 The 'online' state indicates that proxies are either not needed or
 configured correctly for pacrunner,
 http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/connman/pacrunner.git/ Pacrunner
 support is found in Fedora's libproxy package so that all applications using
 libproxy will get the correct proxies and can connect successfully to
 Internet.
 
 But back to your original question, internet is reachable for the WiFi user
 also in state 'ready'.

The problem here is wifi_user can't know the 'ready' status when the status 
gets 'ready'.
I suppose Connman notifies only online/offline status. Therefore wifi_user 
can't receive 'ready' notification from Connman. 
Session_policy_local plugin doesn't set a route(ip route) when the status is 
'ready'.
So in this case wifi_user can use ethernet.

I'd like ethernet_user to use only ethernet and wifi_user to use only wifi.

Could you tell me  my misunderstanding if any.

Best Regards.
Yusuke Nakamura 中村 勇介
Advanced Driver Information Technology
Software Group (SWG)
Engineer
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 -Original Message-
 From: Kojima, Tsuyoshi (HISOL; ADITJ/SWG)
 Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 2:54 PM
 To: Nakamura, Yusuke (ADITJ/SWG)
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 日本語で返事書いてみました。
 
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 From: connman [mailto:connman-boun...@connman.net] On Behalf Of Patrik
 Flykt
 Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 5:18 PM
 To: connman@connman.net
 Cc: Ishikawa, Tetsuri (ADITJ/SWG)
 Subject: Re: would it be possible some of technologies get online state
 simultaneously?
 
 
   Hi,
 
 On Fri, 2015-01-16 at 15:08 +0900, Nakamura, Yusuke (ADITJ/SWG) wrote:
 
  I’m trying to use ConnMan to take care of network arbitration for my
  automotive embedded system.
 
 Cool!
 
  Now the question is whether some of technologies get “online”
  simultaneously.
 
 Only one of the services can be 'online' at any one time. This applies both
 for Session and Service APIs.
 
  I’d like to configure available bearers per application (per user) by
  using session_policy_local_plugin.
 
  For instance while “etherner_user” is connecting to the internet via
  Ethernet, “wifi_user” is connecting to the internet via WiFi.
 
 That is doable. With the Session API and its usage of session specific
 routing tables, all session routing tables have the default route set.
 The default routing table is the only one that has exactly one default route
 set, this in order not to change the normal behavior if sessions are created.
 
  ちょっと何言ってるかわからないです。
 
  I think wifi_user’s session does not get online even if wifi internet
  connection gets available.
 
  I suppose that is because “ethernet” is preferred technology.
 
 Actually, if ethernet is online, it means the connectivity check succeeded.
 Ethernet could also have stayed as 'ready', should the connectivity check
 have failed.
 
  “wifi_user” can’t receive notification through session.
  session_policy_local_plugin configure ip route when get “online”.
 
  Therefore I think in above case “wifi_user” can’t connect to the
  internet.
 
 State 'ready' is enough to be connected to the internet. The difference
 here is that 'online' provides a bit more information, it indicates that
 the additional connectivity check to {ipv4,ipv6}.connman.net succeeded.
 
 The 'online' state indicates that proxies are either not needed or
 configured correctly for pacrunner,
 http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/connman/pacrunner.git/ Pacrunner
 support is found in Fedora's libproxy package so that all applications using
 libproxy will get the correct proxies and can connect successfully to
 Internet.
 
 But back to your original question, internet is reachable for the WiFi user
 also in state 'ready'.
 
  それはわかっています。問題は、stateがreadyでstayしたとき、wifi_user
 がreadyステータスを知ることができないという事です。
 また、session_policy_local pluginはreadyステータスではルートの設定(ip
 route)をしないので、wifi_userはethernetを使用できてしまいます。
 Ethernet_userにはethernetのみを、wifi_userにはwifiのみを使用させたい
 のです。
 
 Cheers,
 
   Patrik
 
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Re: would it be possible some of technologies get online state simultaneously?

2015-01-19 Thread Patrik Flykt
On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 17:20 +0900, Nakamura, Yusuke (ADITJ/SWG) wrote:
 Sorry Patrik. I didn't understand what this means. Do you mind
 explaining this in more detail? 

If you need different routing for different users, use the ConnMan
Session API, doc/session-api.txt, doc/session-overview.txt and
doc/session-policy-format.txt. The applications using Session API are
the only ones that benefit from the rules written for
session_policy_local or other Session policies.

For your problem where you need wifi status and are already configuring
the session plugin, wifi status is available via the Session API.

The default routing table is still identical to the situation where no
sessions are in use and used by everybody else that is not associated
with any sessions.

Cheers,

Patrik

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Re: would it be possible some of technologies get online state simultaneously?

2015-01-16 Thread Patrik Flykt

Hi,

On Fri, 2015-01-16 at 15:08 +0900, Nakamura, Yusuke (ADITJ/SWG) wrote:

 I’m trying to use ConnMan to take care of network arbitration for my
 automotive embedded system.

Cool!

 Now the question is whether some of technologies get “online”
 simultaneously.

Only one of the services can be 'online' at any one time. This applies
both for Session and Service APIs.

 I’d like to configure available bearers per application (per user) by
 using session_policy_local_plugin.
 
 For instance while “etherner_user” is connecting to the internet via
 Ethernet, “wifi_user” is connecting to the internet via WiFi.

That is doable. With the Session API and its usage of session specific
routing tables, all session routing tables have the default route set.
The default routing table is the only one that has exactly one default
route set, this in order not to change the normal behavior if sessions
are created.

 I think wifi_user’s session does not get online even if wifi internet
 connection gets available.
 
 I suppose that is because “ethernet” is preferred technology.

Actually, if ethernet is online, it means the connectivity check
succeeded. Ethernet could also have stayed as 'ready', should the
connectivity check have failed.

 “wifi_user” can’t receive notification through session.
 session_policy_local_plugin configure ip route when get “online”. 
 
 Therefore I think in above case “wifi_user” can’t connect to the
 internet.

State 'ready' is enough to be connected to the internet. The difference
here is that 'online' provides a bit more information, it indicates that
the additional connectivity check to {ipv4,ipv6}.connman.net succeeded.

The 'online' state indicates that proxies are either not needed or
configured correctly for pacrunner,
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/connman/pacrunner.git/ Pacrunner
support is found in Fedora's libproxy package so that all applications
using libproxy will get the correct proxies and can connect successfully
to Internet.

But back to your original question, internet is reachable for the WiFi
user also in state 'ready'.

Cheers,

Patrik

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