RE: Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ?
Thanks Patrick. That pretty much clears the confusion. Abhijit From: connman [connman-boun...@connman.net] on behalf of Patrik Flykt [patrik.fl...@linux.intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:27 PM To: connman@connman.net Subject: Re: Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ? Hi, On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 11:58 +, Lamsoge, Abhijit wrote: > But If I don't have a configuration file, and I do not do "agent on", > then connmanctl does not allow me to connect to any found access point > (The standard NOT registered error)? Yes. > What I see from config-format.txt, is how we can configure our basic, > network settings, like names and passphrases.(Probably, because we > don't have to enter them manually all the time ?? ) This is called provisioning, just as Peter pointed out. With a provisioning file all details about the network is known a priori, and no details can be changed as the provisioning information will always be 100% correct (or updated out-of-band as soon as a change is needed). > So if we provide this file, does it eliminate the need for "agent on" > before connecting to an AP ? If the AP is known from the provisioning file or uses WPA-EAP, then yes. For stumbling into a friends apartment and asking for a WPA2 passphrase there isn't anything better than the excellent Agent API and RequestInput method call. Cheers, Patrik ___ connman mailing list connman@connman.net https://lists.connman.net/mailman/listinfo/connman ___ connman mailing list connman@connman.net https://lists.connman.net/mailman/listinfo/connman
Re: Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ?
Hi, On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 11:58 +, Lamsoge, Abhijit wrote: > But If I don't have a configuration file, and I do not do "agent on", > then connmanctl does not allow me to connect to any found access point > (The standard NOT registered error)? Yes. > What I see from config-format.txt, is how we can configure our basic, > network settings, like names and passphrases.(Probably, because we > don't have to enter them manually all the time ?? ) This is called provisioning, just as Peter pointed out. With a provisioning file all details about the network is known a priori, and no details can be changed as the provisioning information will always be 100% correct (or updated out-of-band as soon as a change is needed). > So if we provide this file, does it eliminate the need for "agent on" > before connecting to an AP ? If the AP is known from the provisioning file or uses WPA-EAP, then yes. For stumbling into a friends apartment and asking for a WPA2 passphrase there isn't anything better than the excellent Agent API and RequestInput method call. Cheers, Patrik ___ connman mailing list connman@connman.net https://lists.connman.net/mailman/listinfo/connman
Re: Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ?
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 13:40 +0200, Sven Schwedas wrote: > Is there a reason why "agent on" is not enabled by default in > connmanctl, though? I can see why other front-ends will need their own > agents, but -ctl is only used standalone, is it not? There are many other uses for interactive connmanctl that don't want Agent input to mess up things; e.g. monitoring in one terminal, querying service properties in another while dedicating a third for Agent input/output for example. HTH, Patrik ___ connman mailing list connman@connman.net https://lists.connman.net/mailman/listinfo/connman
RE: Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ?
Hi Peter, But If I don't have a configuration file, and I do not do "agent on", then connmanctl does not allow me to connect to any found access point (The standard NOT registered error)? What I see from config-format.txt, is how we can configure our basic, network settings, like names and passphrases.(Probably, because we don't have to enter them manually all the time ?? ) So if we provide this file, does it eliminate the need for "agent on" before connecting to an AP ? Abhijit From: connman [connman-boun...@connman.net] on behalf of Sven Schwedas [sven.schwe...@tao.at] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:10 PM To: connman@connman.net Subject: Re: Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ? On 2015-09-08 13:33, Peter Meerwald wrote: > Hello Abhijit, > >> Just wanted some information on, why there is a need to have agent in >> between connmanctl and connman. >> For prompting input for user, but why can't we feed the connman directly >> with inputs like "passphrase" etc. ? > > the concept is called provisioning in connman's terms, see > doc/config-format.txt: you can pre-configure a passphrase for a given SSID > for example Is there a reason why "agent on" is not enabled by default in connmanctl, though? I can see why other front-ends will need their own agents, but -ctl is only used standalone, is it not? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, / Best Regards, Sven Schwedas Systemadministrator TAO Beratungs- und Management GmbH | Lendplatz 45 | A - 8020 Graz Mail/XMPP: sven.schwe...@tao.at | +43 (0)680 301 7167 http://software.tao.at ___ connman mailing list connman@connman.net https://lists.connman.net/mailman/listinfo/connman
Re: Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ?
On 2015-09-08 13:33, Peter Meerwald wrote: > Hello Abhijit, > >> Just wanted some information on, why there is a need to have agent in >> between connmanctl and connman. >> For prompting input for user, but why can't we feed the connman directly >> with inputs like "passphrase" etc. ? > > the concept is called provisioning in connman's terms, see > doc/config-format.txt: you can pre-configure a passphrase for a given SSID > for example Is there a reason why "agent on" is not enabled by default in connmanctl, though? I can see why other front-ends will need their own agents, but -ctl is only used standalone, is it not? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, / Best Regards, Sven Schwedas Systemadministrator TAO Beratungs- und Management GmbH | Lendplatz 45 | A - 8020 Graz Mail/XMPP: sven.schwe...@tao.at | +43 (0)680 301 7167 http://software.tao.at signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ connman mailing list connman@connman.net https://lists.connman.net/mailman/listinfo/connman
Re: Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ?
Hello Abhijit, > Just wanted some information on, why there is a need to have agent in between > connmanctl and connman. > For prompting input for user, but why can't we feed the connman directly with > inputs like "passphrase" etc. ? the concept is called provisioning in connman's terms, see doc/config-format.txt: you can pre-configure a passphrase for a given SSID for example regards, p. -- Peter Meerwald +43-664-218 (mobile) ___ connman mailing list connman@connman.net https://lists.connman.net/mailman/listinfo/connman
Why do we really need Agent in ConnmanCtl ?
Hi Patrick, Just wanted some information on, why there is a need to have agent in between connmanctl and connman. For prompting input for user, but why can't we feed the connman directly with inputs like "passphrase" etc. ? Abhijit ___ connman mailing list connman@connman.net https://lists.connman.net/mailman/listinfo/connman
