Re: [Cooker] Kernel module for SPCA50x camera chips

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 01:13:49AM -0500, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Any chance I could impose on someone on the cooker list to compile a 
> kernel 
> module for me?  There is a driver for the SPCA50x chip based USB cameras 
> available (don't know how good it is though).  Unfortunately, I don't have 
> room on this machine for kernel sources, so I can't compile the module 
> myself, and the .o file available for download is for a different kernel.  I 
> have a camera based on this chip, and would love to use it with cooker.
> 
> The module is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/spca50x/.
> 
> If the driver is reasonably solid, any chance of  putting it in 
> cooker?

Which kernel are you running?

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Re: [Cooker] IBM Microdrive PCMCIA adapter

2002-07-13 Thread Roger

On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 02:12, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone been able to use an IBM Microdrive with their PCMCIA 
> adapter?  
> Inserting the card into a PCMCIA slot causes a modprobe ide-cs, then the 
> computer hangs, with no error messages on the console.

if you can't wait for a response, you'll find the answer in the "Trouble
Shooting Section" of the pcmcia/cardbus howto.

you probabely either need to specify the i/o port to use for the slot#1
or disable a probing feature.

i believe these features need to be specified within one of the files
within the /etc/pcmcia folders.

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[Cooker] Kernel module for SPCA50x camera chips

2002-07-13 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD

Hello,

Any chance I could impose on someone on the cooker list to compile a 
kernel 
module for me?  There is a driver for the SPCA50x chip based USB cameras 
available (don't know how good it is though).  Unfortunately, I don't have 
room on this machine for kernel sources, so I can't compile the module 
myself, and the .o file available for download is for a different kernel.  I 
have a camera based on this chip, and would love to use it with cooker.

The module is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/spca50x/.

If the driver is reasonably solid, any chance of  putting it in 
cooker?

Thanks, in advance,

Vinny





[Cooker] IBM Microdrive PCMCIA adapter

2002-07-13 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD

Hi,

Has anyone been able to use an IBM Microdrive with their PCMCIA 
adapter?  
Inserting the card into a PCMCIA slot causes a modprobe ide-cs, then the 
computer hangs, with no error messages on the console.

V.





Re: [Cooker] man-1.5j-9mdk - manpage corruption

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 11:14:00PM -0400, Jason Straight wrote:
> Where can I find 1 mdk - I use --delete :( with my rsyncs.

I threw the locales packages up here for the time being:
http://mirror.brain.org/linux/breser/temp/

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Re: [Cooker] man-1.5j-9mdk - manpage corruption

2002-07-13 Thread Jason Straight

Where can I find 1 mdk - I use --delete :( with my rsyncs.



On Saturday 13 July 2002 15:58, Ben Reser wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 01:07:55PM -0400, Jason Straight wrote:
> > corrupt character display while displaying any man page.
> >
> >
> > IPTABLES(8)   IPTABLES(8)
> >
> > NAME
> >iptables â IP packet filter administration
> >
> > SYNOPSIS
> >iptables ââ[ADC] chain ruleâspecification [options]
> >iptables ââI chain [rulenum] ruleâspecification [options]
> >iptables ââR chain rulenum ruleâspecification [options]
> >iptables ââD chain rulenum [options]
> >iptables ââ[LFZ] [chain] [options]
> >iptables ââN chain
> >iptables ââX [chain]
> >iptables ââP chain target [options]
> >iptables ââE oldâchainâname newâchainâname
>
> Actually the problem is with locales
>
> [breser@occipital breser]$ rpm -q locales locales-en
> locales-2.3.1.3-2mdk
> locales-en-2.3.1.3-2mdk
>
> Going back to 1mdk fixes the problem.
> 2mdk also makes my fonts on Mozilla look really blocky and messed up.

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Re: [Cooker] demoroniser-19980116

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 01:09:17AM +0200, huug wrote:
> Oops again, I'm afraid. 'mornoic' escaped my eye, and 2mdk has it too.

I need more sleep.  3mdk is up and sent to Mandrake's ftp server.
http://mirror.brain.org/linux/breser/i586/cooker

P.S. Lenny if you aren't interested in adding this package just let me
know and I'll stop uploading it to you and pestering you. :)

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[Cooker] jhead for image exif info

2002-07-13 Thread Roger

Is jhead packaged somplace?  From a search, i've seen some old out-dated
packages around the net, but nothing recent...or usable.

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Re: [Cooker] rpm Vendor question...

2002-07-13 Thread Buchan Milne



[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 03:20:55PM -0400, Austin Acton wrote:
>> Not the case.
>> Volunteered RPMS will be freely available on regular MDK mirrors,
>> provided they are GPL or similar.  The only RPMS available only to club
>> members will be those that are free, but not open source.
>> New SRPMS will go directly into cooker if they are reliable.
>> You should contribute this way, because it helps the distro directly.

>So then what does this have to do with the club and what's different
>from contribs?  To be honest I'm jaded about contribs anyway.  The
>policy of how to contribute is unclear (at one point in time you were
>supposed to email lenny for a @linux-mandrake.com address, I've done
>that several times and just get ignored) and 99% of the time any emails
>about contrib business is just flat out ignored.

The club volunteers RPMs are different because they are there to directly serve the
interests of paying customers. Granted, Mandrakesoft gets money from this (but they
get money for contrib RPMs also). But the RPMs are still available to all, and they
are usually going to be requests for either:
1)Software which isn't in Mandrake/contribs/PLF/Commercial stuff
2)RPMS Rebuilt from cooker.

>Basically my attitude comes down to this.  I'm sick of getting the run
>around about how to contribute to Mandrake.  And I've found my time is
>far better spent building packages for myself and just posting them
>myself.  If and when a reasonable system gets built for contributing
>that doesn't mean I'm wasting my time.  I'll be willing to contribute to
>it.

Well, that is what I have done, see http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake (ok, so
maybe OpenOffice.org and Mozilla appeared in unsupported later, but mine were up
first ;-)). I have about 1GB of RPMs for 8.0/8.1/8.2 and cooker up. But don't you
think that's a bit inefficient? What about Tex? He builds more than I do, but often
we're duplicating work. Although the Club Volunteers is a Mandrake Club initiative,
the idea was born on MandrakeForum, due to others having the same frustration you
have. The MandrakeClub is going to provide the infrastructure, and those of us who
normally build RPMS on stable releases (heck, I just built mozilla 1.0 on 8.1 for a
member of our LUG) can cooperate. 

>Having just read through the FAQ about the club RPM thing.  I'm not
>really convinced that this is going to change anything.  The club
>SRPMS are going to have to be tied to cooker stuff.  Which inevitably is
>going to lead to the same issue as contrib has now, limited Mandrake
>staff time to deal with the influx of SRPMS.  This limited time is in my
>opinion the root cause of the issues that I see with contrib now.
>So my question is.  Rather than trying to come up with some new "system"
>for contrib packages (which is what I see the club rpm thing as) why
>don't we first figure out what's broken with what we've got?

Firstly, Mandrake staff aren't the only people who have write access to contribs. I
have a number of packages which I put in myself. I will try and test all the new
RPMS from the Club and have them added to cooker if appropriate.

Please join the mailing list, and at least ask some questions. Deno has just given
about 5 of us access to a machine to upload RPMs, I have uploaded my first RPM (k3b
built for KDE3.0 on Mandrake 8.2), and RPMS shuold appear on the mirrors quite soon.

Regarding contrib, I agree that the process needs to be streamlined, and that the
differing instructions need to be fixed, but in the end a lot of people are
contributing. Mail lenny. Mail him again. He is busy, but if you bug him, he will do
something about it.

Please think about how much time could be saved if we worked together on updating
the stable releases, rather than each building a few RPMs, and duplicating each
other's work.

Regards,
Buchan





Re: [Cooker] fresh cooker install : bugs resport and suggestions

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 09:45:21PM +0300, Mircea Ciocan wrote:
> Florent BERANGER wrote:
> [snip]
> >Galeon (galeon-bin) have a segmentation fault :-(
> >
> >Mozilla can't be launched (menus/commandline - no error
> >message)
> >
> 
>   Some details about this one, is about some chrome file that is not 
> writable as user, once you launc mozilla as root once it restores the 
> correct permissions on that file and then can be used as any user.

I had a similar problem removing mozilla and galeon and reinstalling
them fixed it.  Or at least it seemed to.  But maybe I ran mozilla as
root somewhere after that.  Humm

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Re: [Cooker] fresh cooker install : bugs resport and suggestions

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:52:36PM +0200, Florent BERANGER wrote:
> KDE 3.0.2 :
> It always ask for preferences at each session :-(

Known issue, workaround is here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=102426241010947&w=2

However it's .kde not .kde3 in cooker now.

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Re: [Cooker] rpm Vendor question...

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 03:20:55PM -0400, Austin Acton wrote:
> Not the case.
> Volunteered RPMS will be freely available on regular MDK mirrors,
> provided they are GPL or similar.  The only RPMS available only to club
> members will be those that are free, but not open source.
> New SRPMS will go directly into cooker if they are reliable.
> You should contribute this way, because it helps the distro directly.

So then what does this have to do with the club and what's different
from contribs?  To be honest I'm jaded about contribs anyway.  The
policy of how to contribute is unclear (at one point in time you were
supposed to email lenny for a @linux-mandrake.com address, I've done
that several times and just get ignored) and 99% of the time any emails
about contrib business is just flat out ignored.

Basically my attitude comes down to this.  I'm sick of getting the run
around about how to contribute to Mandrake.  And I've found my time is
far better spent building packages for myself and just posting them
myself.  If and when a reasonable system gets built for contributing
that doesn't mean I'm wasting my time.  I'll be willing to contribute to
it.  

Having just read through the FAQ about the club RPM thing.  I'm not
really convinced that this is going to change anything.  The club
SRPMS are going to have to be tied to cooker stuff.  Which inevitably is
going to lead to the same issue as contrib has now, limited Mandrake
staff time to deal with the influx of SRPMS.  This limited time is in my
opinion the root cause of the issues that I see with contrib now.

So my question is.  Rather than trying to come up with some new "system"
for contrib packages (which is what I see the club rpm thing as) why
don't we first figure out what's broken with what we've got?

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Re: [Cooker] Just missing a few Perl packages updates...

2002-07-13 Thread Levi Ramsey

On Fri Jul 12 21:40 -0500, Vox wrote:
> Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

And the rebuttal...

http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.mhtml

I think that for discussion-based lists (which Cooker is), Reply-To
munging is warranted.

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Re: [Cooker] fresh cooker install : bugs resport and suggestions

2002-07-13 Thread Florent BERANGER

> -- Initial message ---
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc  :
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:45:21 +0300
> Subject : Re: [Cooker] fresh cooker install : bugs
resport and suggestions
>
> Florent BERANGER wrote:
> [snip]
> > Galeon (galeon-bin) have a segmentation fault :-(
> >
> > Mozilla can't be launched (menus/commandline - no
error
> > message)
> >
>
>   Some details about this one, is about some chrome
file that is not
> writable as user, once you launc mozilla as root once
it restores the
> correct permissions on that file and then can be used
as any user.
>
>   Mircea C.
>
>
Thanks, Galeon works now !

Other notes / suggestions :
==
===

KDE 3.0.2 :
It always ask for preferences at each session :-(

==
===

Harddrake2 :
My network card (eth0 / type : network) (NetGear /
pcnet_cs module) is in Unknown/Others category.

The about & help dialog box type is yesorno, I think a
warning type could be better ;)

I don't see my laptop's sound card (integrated : Cyrix
Media GX - sb module) and my internal modem.

==
===

Xdrakeres :
when choosing a graphic card if card number > 1, if I
click on cancel button, the next screen appear (res and
color selection) with no XFree server -> must exiting

==
===

Hardware support suggestions :

My sound card is not configured at install. It's an
integrated card who works with sb module.
There is a way to, at installation, if no sound card
detected, to try sb module with the std options (io=0x220
irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5) ?

ov511_decomp and ov518_decomp modules (for webcams) are
not in kernel modules (but are in 8.2)

I haven't see TV-out configuration. I hope it will be
included soon because it works fine ;)

include more video input cards drivers (Pinnacle DC10,...)

==
===

Gnome2 is very fun (light, fast (run fine on my
P200MMX/80Mo laptop), pretty, ergonomic,
fonctional,...) : I like it !!!

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[Cooker] SCSI scanner support

2002-07-13 Thread Florent BERANGER

In findScannerScsi function (scanner.pm in libDrakX),
implement the following :

sane-find-scanner -> find-scanner: found scanner "Y"
at device /dev/xxx -> parse to get the device
For have /dev/scanner, just link to the device : ln -
sf /dev/xxx /dev/scanner

Verification :
scanimage -L must return device `snapscan:/dev/scanner'
is a Y scanner


Thanks to take a look at it,
  Florent
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] TinyCA-0.3.1-1mdk

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 03:50:54PM +0200, Daouda LO wrote:
> fixed in 2mdk.

Much better.  Had to trash my .TinyCA but after that it started working
fine.  

Is there some reason it's TinyCA instead of tinyca?

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Re: [Cooker] warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root

2002-07-13 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

Oden Eriksson wrote:

>On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 11.34 Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
>  
>
>>Oden Eriksson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 09.37 Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
>>>  
>>>
When installing ypbind:

warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root

I've seen more of these lately... (same goes for apache)


>>>If you ask me this is just plain stupid... The latest setup package lacks
>>>nearly all system (daemon/services) accounts. qmail, djbdns, apache, etc.
>>>I still haven't gotten an answer why this change.
>>>  
>>>
>>Nobody will complain about it because the file gets created as
>>.rpmnew... once you put the file in place, the party starts...
>>
>>
>
>That only if you upgrade right?
>
With a new install (how else) it'll be different...

I think I'm going to reinstall one system tonight... and see how that 
one ends up.

Anyway, another one:

warning: user rpm does not exist - using root
warning: group rpm does not exist - using root


>The thing is that if you manually migrate stuff later you need to do a lot of 
>chown:ing. And copying/synching files between machines won't work as easily 
>anymore because there's no more static uid/gid:s.
>
most copy programs like rsync work with names and not uid:gid, right? 
With removeable media it is different.

>The only way to make a "server farm" with identical Mandrake machines from now
>on is to a.) use disk cloning, b.) use replay_install.img or c.) use your own 
>setup rpm (your own distro...).
>
Uh... not quite...

Mostly only users will access media from different machine, the services 
(webserver, etc) mostly don't (if they do, why?). When you store the 
users passwd / group data in LDAP or NIS, then you shouldn't have 
problems with NFS / removeable media.

>This is a bad move Mandrake...
>
I'm not sure...

What I'm not happy about is that the rpm's that could use non-root 
accounts don't make them when being installed (/ upgraded). This could 
make it easier for systems to be hacked (why not walk in as root instead 
of as apache?). Let's hope the rpm's involved will get updated to comply 
with the change...

What I'm wondering: if & where is this descision documented? Are 
instructions / guidelines available on how this should work and on how 
to update the packages? --> Would be nice for your apache2 package too, 
right?

Stefan





Re: [Cooker] man-1.5j-9mdk - manpage corruption

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 01:07:55PM -0400, Jason Straight wrote:
> corrupt character display while displaying any man page.
> 
> 
> IPTABLES(8)   IPTABLES(8)
> 
> NAME
>iptables â IP packet filter administration
> 
> SYNOPSIS
>iptables ââ[ADC] chain ruleâspecification [options]
>iptables ââI chain [rulenum] ruleâspecification [options]
>iptables ââR chain rulenum ruleâspecification [options]
>iptables ââD chain rulenum [options]
>iptables ââ[LFZ] [chain] [options]
>iptables ââN chain
>iptables ââX [chain]
>iptables ââP chain target [options]
>iptables ââE oldâchainâname newâchainâname

Actually the problem is with locales 

[breser@occipital breser]$ rpm -q locales locales-en
locales-2.3.1.3-2mdk
locales-en-2.3.1.3-2mdk

Going back to 1mdk fixes the problem.
2mdk also makes my fonts on Mozilla look really blocky and messed up.

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Re: [Cooker] rpm Vendor question...

2002-07-13 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

Maybe a bit off-topic: I would like to see a system where contributors 
can volonteer to maintain a package (or two :-) ). I think it could be a 
good replacement for contribs, since Mdk doesn't have the resources to 
bring the contribs to the quality standard of cooker (otherwise cooker 
would contain those packages). Seperate website being run by volonteers 
won't work, it just isn't scaleable, neither are the current contribs. 
IMHO we only need 3 distro's: cooker, contrib and plf.

Let the contributors decide which packages are worthwhile to maintain, 
the rest can be put into the pound (same idea as an animal pound), and 
put to sleep if nobody wants to take care of it. Nice natural selection. 
I guess in order to let a large number of people maintain packages in a 
secure way a few things need to be done:

What you don't want:
- uploading of binary rpms (by near strangers)
- shell accounts for each & every contributor
- a lot of manual uploading by a few people for a large group

What would be nice:
- "help yourself", register for an abandoned package, or submit a new one;
- if you want changes to a maintained package, some (web-) interface for 
contacting the maintainer would be nice;
- uploading of src.rpm only (web-based, authentcate with cert?)
- rebuilding engine that processes the src.rpm's
- download the original sources (to prevent tampering with sources)
- a mdk person needs to aprove the changes (use some workflow for this)
- build the binary rpm's (multi platform?), and when things don't 
build, inform the maintainer (send buildoutputs of what went wrong, etc)

The problem is most likely building the application that will enable 
this... (anybody capable of making such a thing want to volonteer?)

I guess it's up to mdk to figure out how to best leverage the effort of 
the contributors.

kind regards,

Stefan


Austin Acton wrote:

>Not the case.
>Volunteered RPMS will be freely available on regular MDK mirrors,
>provided they are GPL or similar.  The only RPMS available only to club
>members will be those that are free, but not open source.
>New SRPMS will go directly into cooker if they are reliable.
>You should contribute this way, because it helps the distro directly.
>Austin
>
>On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 14:38, Ben Reser wrote:
>  
>
>>Well I disagree with the idea of only making rpms that I build available
>>via the club.  The club's fine and all.  And it's nice to have them
>>releasing some commercial stuff that normally was only on the commercial
>>CDs.  However, I disagree with the idea of locking RPMs of "free" programs
>>behind the club.  Basically I don't mind contributing to the community.
>>But I won't do work for Mandrake that gets locked up for only a few for
>>free.  Now if Mandrake want's to pay me to make Club packages that's a
>>different matter.  But if I'm doing work for free then I expect my work
>>to be accessible to the public.
>>
>>-- 
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>>
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>>mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose.
>>- Brian Hayes
>>
>>
>
>
>  
>







Re: [Cooker] rpm Vendor question...

2002-07-13 Thread David Walser


--- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well I disagree with the idea of only making rpms
> that I build available
> via the club.  The club's fine and all.  And it's
> nice to have them
> releasing some commercial stuff that normally was
> only on the commercial
> CDs.  However, I disagree with the idea of locking
> RPMs of "free" programs
> behind the club.  Basically I don't mind
> contributing to the community.
> But I won't do work for Mandrake that gets locked up
> for only a few for
> free.  Now if Mandrake want's to pay me to make Club
> packages that's a
> different matter.  But if I'm doing work for free
> then I expect my work
> to be accessible to the public.

I'm not arguing with you, but doesn't a free club
membership count as getting paid?

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Re: [Cooker] rpm Vendor question...

2002-07-13 Thread Austin Acton

Not the case.
Volunteered RPMS will be freely available on regular MDK mirrors,
provided they are GPL or similar.  The only RPMS available only to club
members will be those that are free, but not open source.
New SRPMS will go directly into cooker if they are reliable.
You should contribute this way, because it helps the distro directly.
Austin

On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 14:38, Ben Reser wrote:
> 
> Well I disagree with the idea of only making rpms that I build available
> via the club.  The club's fine and all.  And it's nice to have them
> releasing some commercial stuff that normally was only on the commercial
> CDs.  However, I disagree with the idea of locking RPMs of "free" programs
> behind the club.  Basically I don't mind contributing to the community.
> But I won't do work for Mandrake that gets locked up for only a few for
> free.  Now if Mandrake want's to pay me to make Club packages that's a
> different matter.  But if I'm doing work for free then I expect my work
> to be accessible to the public.
> 
> -- 
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> http://ben.reser.org
> 
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> mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose.
> - Brian Hayes





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] nautilus-2.0.0-9mdk

2002-07-13 Thread Steve Fox

On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 01:52, Antony Suter wrote:
> 
> I think fam support is required for nautilus. I had previously assumed
> it was running correctly.

I don't think it was for Nautilus 1.x, but I think I remember reading
somewhere on nautilus-list that it was going to be required for 2.0. 

-- 

Steve Fox
http://k-lug.org




Re: [Cooker] test

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 05:27:07PM +0200, Martin Ma?ok wrote:
> We do filter mail servers that doesn't have a reverse DNS record
> and we have experienced that the emails which get undelivered due to
> this are from 99% from spammers, broken emails from broken mail
> servers from broken networks and only ~1% of undelivered emails are
> just a "correct" emails from networks with temporary DNS problems and
> from badly configured networks or from people not sending emails
> through their providers (but directly from their dialup)

Or anytime you have some sort of temporary name resolution issue you
start bouncing mail.  That's stupid.  Far too many people have had this
problem on this list to be such a small problem.  Face it DNS is not
reliable and can't be used for authentication... which is what requiring
reverse DNS is in essence doing.

> Also note that RFC 2821 (SMTP):
> 
> ...
> 
> 2.3.4 Host
> 
>For the purposes of this specification, a host is a computer system
>attached to the Internet (or, in some cases, to a private TCP/IP
>network) and supporting the SMTP protocol.  Hosts are known by names
>(see "domain"); identifying them by numerical address is discouraged

You're taking that toally out of context.  No where does it say that
hosts must reverse resolve properly or that if they don't you should
throw away their mail.  It says for the purposes of the mail system
that it's best to refer to hosts by their name.  However in the context
of receiving mail it doesn't really matter.  That section was written
to discourage people from doing things like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Spamassasin? Why not... but I guess it will stress the servers load
> even more and could cause more delayed delivering (which is sometimes
> really bad now with cooker@)

Spamassassin is already run on Mandrake's incoming email.  At least
that's my understanding.

-- 
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http://ben.reser.org

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Re: [Cooker] fresh cooker install : bugs resport and suggestions

2002-07-13 Thread Mircea Ciocan

Florent BERANGER wrote:
[snip]
> Galeon (galeon-bin) have a segmentation fault :-(
> 
> Mozilla can't be launched (menus/commandline - no error
> message)
> 

Some details about this one, is about some chrome file that is not 
writable as user, once you launc mozilla as root once it restores the 
correct permissions on that file and then can be used as any user.

Mircea C.






Re: [Cooker] rpm Vendor question...

2002-07-13 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 05:10:31PM +, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Well, maybe you should consider joining the Mandrake Club Volunteers, to try and
> prevent the duplication of effort. A number of people here will know of the RPMs I
> make available at http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake, specifically rebuilds from
> cooker for previous stable releases.
> 
> The Club Volunteers was started due to people requesting updated RPMs om MF, Deno
> has done the effort in organising the logistics, and a while back there was a story
> on MandrakeClub for people to post their requests. We are getting organised now, a
> lot of RPMs are ready, and the uploads have just started. RPMs will be available in
> the Cooker mirrors (like unsupported) except for RPMs with restrictive licensing,
> which may go to PLF if suitable, otherwise will stay on the club.

Well I disagree with the idea of only making rpms that I build available
via the club.  The club's fine and all.  And it's nice to have them
releasing some commercial stuff that normally was only on the commercial
CDs.  However, I disagree with the idea of locking RPMs of "free" programs
behind the club.  Basically I don't mind contributing to the community.
But I won't do work for Mandrake that gets locked up for only a few for
free.  Now if Mandrake want's to pay me to make Club packages that's a
different matter.  But if I'm doing work for free then I expect my work
to be accessible to the public.

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[Cooker] fam FOD filling (log)files

2002-07-13 Thread Chuck Shirley

I'm having trouble tracing the source of this problem, has anyone else
noticed it?  I have fam and libfam0 packages installed as they are
needed by a number of kde packages.  The default configuration for
the xinetd.d/fam is used, and I get page after page of this in my 
log files:

Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[901]: warning: can't get client address: Transport 
endpoint is not connected
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[901]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[907]: warning: can't get client address: Transport 
endpoint is not connected
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[907]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[912]: warning: can't get client address: Transport 
endpoint is not connected
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[912]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[920]: warning: can't get client address: Transport 
endpoint is not connected
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[920]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[927]: warning: can't get client address: Transport 
endpoint is not connected
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[927]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[932]: warning: can't get client address: Transport 
endpoint is not connected
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[932]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[939]: warning: can't get client address: Transport 
endpoint is not connected
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[939]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from 
Jul 13 13:13:06 visigoth xinetd[2097]: Deactivating service sgi_fam due to excessive 
incoming connections.  Restarting in 30 seconds.
Jul 13 13:13:37 visigoth xinetd[2097]: Activating service sgi_fam


There will be groups of this, with about 50 lines of warning/libwrap pairs, then the
notice that xinetd is stopping the sgi_fam service.  There is often a delay of several
hours before the next occurance, but sometimes, it starts as soon as the fam service
is restarted by xinetd.  I am not able to find any correlation.  The first occurrence
of this was on 04 JUL 2002.

versions installed:

kernel-enterprise-2.4.18.21mdk-1-1mdk
fam-2.6.8-2mdk
libfam0-2.6.8-2mdk
iptables-1.2.6a-1mdk
Bastille-1.3.0-2mdk
msec-0.25-1mdk


kdeaddons-3.0.2-1mdk
kdeadmin-3.0.2-1mdk
kdeartwork-3.0.2-1mdk
kdebase-3.0.2-6mdk
kdebase-nsplugins-3.0.2-6mdk
kdeedu-3.0.2-1mdk
kdegames-3.0.2-1mdk
kdegraphics-3.0.2-1mdk
kdelibs-3.0.2-2mdk
kdemultimedia-3.0.2-1mdk
kdemultimedia-aktion-3.0.2-1mdk
kdenetwork-3.0.2-5mdk
kdesdk-3.0.2-1mdk
kdetoys-3.0.2-1mdk
kdeutils-3.0.2-1mdk
krozat-8.3-3mdk



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Re: [Cooker] rpm Vendor question...

2002-07-13 Thread Geoffrey Lee

> >out packages that are originally cooker for other Mandrake distribution
> >releases (e.g. 8.2/ppc).  When I do this I try to use brs instead of mdk
> >so that when the next release comes along the Mandrake package of the
> >same version will take preceidence over mine.  It's probably more
> >accurate to set the Vendor tag to my own name rather than Mandrakesoft.
> >But I'd rather only have to edit the release tag to do that.  I'm just
> >being lazy and trying to minimize the changes I made to cooker packages
> >that I'm rebuilding for other releases. :)
> 
> 


First my reply to Ben, because I seem to have lost Ben's original message.

In theory you can use --define ' ' but it didn't work for me
when I tried it out yesterday. Maybe you will have better luck than me. 
--define does a define on-the-fly.



> make it mozilla-1.0.0-6.9mdk.
> 
> Regardless, duplication of effort is evil, and we probably need someone in Club
> Volunteers to build on ppc ;-).
> 
> Mail deno if you're interested. (And that applies to anyone on this list). There's
> free club membership in it of course (since you need to be able to read the posts).
> 


And Buchan needs to wrap his long lines. It looks like phpGroupWare is 
extremely evil in this regard. :-)


-- Geoff.





[Cooker] fresh cooker install : bugs resport and suggestions

2002-07-13 Thread Florent BERANGER

I've just done a install of actual cooker and I have some
notes, thanks to take a look at them :

==
===

Galeon (galeon-bin) have a segmentation fault :-(

Mozilla can't be launched (menus/commandline - no error
message)

==
===

KDE 3.0.2 :
It always ask for preferences at each session :-(

==
===

Harddrake2 :
My network card (eth0 / type : network) (NetGear /
pcnet_cs module) is in Unknown/Others category.

The about & help dialog box type is yesorno, I think a
warning type could be better ;)

I don't see my laptop's sound card (integrated : Cyrix
Media GX - sb module) and my internal modem.

==
===

Xdrakeres :
when choosing a graphic card if card number > 1, if I
click on cancel button, the next screen appear (res and
color selection) with no XFree server -> must exiting

==
===

Hardware support suggestions :

My sound card is not configured at install. It's an
integrated card who works with sb module.
There is a way to, at installation, if no sound card
detected, to try sb module with the std options (io=0x220
irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5) ?

ov511_decomp and ov518_decomp modules (for webcams) are
not in kernel modules (but are in 8.2)

I haven't see TV-out configuration. I hope it will be
included soon because it works fine ;)

==
===

Gnome2 is very fun (light, fast (run fine on my
P200MMX/80Mo laptop), pretty, ergonomic,
fonctional,...) : I like it !!!

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Re: [Cooker] rpm Vendor question...

2002-07-13 Thread Buchan Milne



[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 04:39:30AM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
>> Try the Vendor: tag if you are doing your own release? That is static, but
>> I presume if you build your own rpm then it's Ok to override the
>> Vendor: MandrakeSoft field.
>>
>> Will this be good enough?
>Yeah well I realized I could do that.  But what I've been doing lately
>is trying to use brs as the release tag on the end of stuff that I'm not
>sending over to you guys and mdk on things that I do.  Sometimes I put
>out packages that are originally cooker for other Mandrake distribution
>releases (e.g. 8.2/ppc).  When I do this I try to use brs instead of mdk
>so that when the next release comes along the Mandrake package of the
>same version will take preceidence over mine.  It's probably more
>accurate to set the Vendor tag to my own name rather than Mandrakesoft.
>But I'd rather only have to edit the release tag to do that.  I'm just
>being lazy and trying to minimize the changes I made to cooker packages
>that I'm rebuilding for other releases. :)


Well, maybe you should consider joining the Mandrake Club Volunteers, to try and
prevent the duplication of effort. A number of people here will know of the RPMs I
make available at http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake, specifically rebuilds from
cooker for previous stable releases.

The Club Volunteers was started due to people requesting updated RPMs om MF, Deno
has done the effort in organising the logistics, and a while back there was a story
on MandrakeClub for people to post their requests. We are getting organised now, a
lot of RPMs are ready, and the uploads have just started. RPMs will be available in
the Cooker mirrors (like unsupported) except for RPMs with restrictive licensing,
which may go to PLF if suitable, otherwise will stay on the club.

In this case then, there would be no need to change the vendor tag (unless Deno
wants us to change it to reflect that they are club-made).

What you might want to consider doing, if your only concern is conflicting with
release numbers from Mandrakesoft, is to partially decrement you release number,
such as if you were (say) rebuilding mozilla-1.0.0-7mdk on 8.2, you might want to
make it mozilla-1.0.0-6.9mdk.

Regardless, duplication of effort is evil, and we probably need someone in Club
Volunteers to build on ppc ;-).

Mail deno if you're interested. (And that applies to anyone on this list). There's
free club membership in it of course (since you need to be able to read the posts).

Regards,
Buchan





[Cooker] man-1.5j-9mdk - manpage corruption

2002-07-13 Thread Jason Straight

corrupt character display while displaying any man page.


IPTABLES(8)   IPTABLES(8)

NAME
   iptables â IP packet filter administration

SYNOPSIS
   iptables ââ[ADC] chain ruleâspecification [options]
   iptables ââI chain [rulenum] ruleâspecification [options]
   iptables ââR chain rulenum ruleâspecification [options]
   iptables ââD chain rulenum [options]
   iptables ââ[LFZ] [chain] [options]
   iptables ââN chain
   iptables ââX [chain]
   iptables ââP chain target [options]
   iptables ââE oldâchainâname newâchainâname


-- 

^^^
Jason Straight





Re: [Cooker] ostringstream bug in recent gcc/libstdc++

2002-07-13 Thread Christian Borntraeger

We discussed the issue on the ickle list,
this is our conclusion.
As I have no GNATS access to the gcc-bug-systems It would be nice, if some of 
the Mandrake-compiler experts can handle this bug report and bring it to the 
gcc folks.

Thanks

> Apparently it all boils down to this:
>
> cout << 'a' << endl;// a
> cout.operator<< ('a') << endl;  // 97
> operator<< (cout, 'a') << endl; // a
>
> gcc-3.1 has two versions of operator<<(), one as a member of
> basic_ostream, and one as a global function. I have no idea why this is
> necessary though.
> Anyway, the global version (which gcc-2.95 doesn't have) works correctly,
> but the class member doesn't.
>
> To me this looks like a gcc bug, and someone should report it...


greetings

Christian Bornträger




Re: [Cooker] test

2002-07-13 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD

On Saturday 13 July 2002 10:27 am, Martin Mačok wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 08:30:59AM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
> > Frankly I don't understand why they have their mailservers setup to
> > require reverse DNS.  It doesn't kill that many spammers
>
> We do filter mail servers that doesn't have a reverse DNS record
> and we have experienced that the emails which get undelivered due to
> this are from 99% from spammers, broken emails from broken mail
> servers from broken networks and only ~1% of undelivered emails are
> just a "correct" emails from networks with temporary DNS problems and
> from badly configured networks or from people not sending emails
> through their providers (but directly from their dialup)
>
Yes, I send e-mail directly from my laptop.  I use this machine in a lot of 
locations, and since each location now only accepts outgoing e-mail from 
within their own system in order to prevent spam, it would mean having to 
re-configure my e-mail every time I move the machine.  That is one of the 
main reasons I run Postfix on this machine.   Currently the ONLY place that
I e-mail regularly (or at least used to :-(  ) that has any problem with this 
is this mailing list.

I can understand why the list wants reverse DNS to prevent spam..  if we're 
going to continue to do this, though, could we at least lower the delay?  If 
the e-mail bounced in like 5-10 minutes instead of days, it might kind of jog 
the memory of folks like me to say "Oh yeah - i have to send these out 
through Earthlink.." and they could be re-sent. 

Being on a client's site with this machine, if I'm working on their network, 
there is no way I can access any of the "legal" mail servers that I have 
access to, so any cooker related traffic would have to wait until I'm off 
their network, and near a phone line, so that I could dial into Earthlink to 
send it.

> Also note that RFC 2821 (SMTP):
>
> ...
>
> 2.3.4 Host
>
>For the purposes of this specification, a host is a computer system
>attached to the Internet (or, in some cases, to a private TCP/IP
>network) and supporting the SMTP protocol.  Hosts are known by names
>(see "domain"); identifying them by numerical address is discouraged
>
> ...
>
> > I would imagine the filtering would do just fine getting rid of the spam
> > without this requirement.
>
> Spamassasin? Why not... but I guess it will stress the servers load
> even more and could cause more delayed delivering (which is sometimes
> really bad now with cooker@)

Sorry, Somehow I DON'T think that adding something like Spamassasin is going 
to bring the cooker mailing list server to its knees - not unless Mandrake 
has some really poor servers.  We're talking what?  a few miliseconds per 
mail to process?  (Does this mean that the server might need upgrading? Heck, 
I could be convinced to donate towards that - if only to get my access to 
this list back)

Vinny




Re: [Cooker] Just missing a few Perl packages updates...

2002-07-13 Thread Martin Mačok

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 09:40:16PM -0500, Vox wrote:
>   http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
> 
>   Vox, who thanks the emacs-deities for gnus ability to deal with the
>   broken behaviour of mungled lists.

Mutt can do that too with "set ignore_list_reply_to" (see the manual)

-- 
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://Xtrmntr.org/ORBman/




Re: [Cooker] test

2002-07-13 Thread Martin Mačok

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 08:30:59AM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
> Frankly I don't understand why they have their mailservers setup to
> require reverse DNS.  It doesn't kill that many spammers

We do filter mail servers that doesn't have a reverse DNS record
and we have experienced that the emails which get undelivered due to
this are from 99% from spammers, broken emails from broken mail
servers from broken networks and only ~1% of undelivered emails are
just a "correct" emails from networks with temporary DNS problems and
from badly configured networks or from people not sending emails
through their providers (but directly from their dialup)

Also note that RFC 2821 (SMTP):

...

2.3.4 Host

   For the purposes of this specification, a host is a computer system
   attached to the Internet (or, in some cases, to a private TCP/IP
   network) and supporting the SMTP protocol.  Hosts are known by names
   (see "domain"); identifying them by numerical address is discouraged

...

> I would imagine the filtering would do just fine getting rid of the spam
> without this requirement.

Spamassasin? Why not... but I guess it will stress the servers load
even more and could cause more delayed delivering (which is sometimes
really bad now with cooker@)

-- 
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://Xtrmntr.org/ORBman/




Re: [Cooker] rsynced cooker

2002-07-13 Thread Martin Mačok

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 11:37:07AM +0200, Warly wrote:
> > try MakeCD "--check /home/mat/cooker/i586"
> 
> Note: the quotes should not be necessary

But shouldn't there be "$@" instead of $@ at the very last line of
MakeCD shell script?

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] TinyCA-0.3.1-1mdk

2002-07-13 Thread Daouda LO

Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 01:20:08PM +0200, Daouda LO wrote:
> > We'll see. For now, test the tinyca package and tell me if it works :p
> 
> Nope it doesn't work for me.  I try to make a new CA, fill in all the
> fields and then it pops up saying it couldn't open the template.

fixed in 2mdk.

Thanx




Re: [Cooker] pasting into mc edit

2002-07-13 Thread Marcel Pol

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:32:00 +0200
Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 12.23 Marcel Pol wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:44:49 +0200
> >
> > Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It's impossible to paste into mc:s internal editor running in a X
> > > console, what's wrong?
> >
> > Works here in konsole and mc.
> > You do use "shift" when pasting in mc?
> 
> No I didn't, but now I did and that worked, thanks. Why do I have to press 
> shift in Cooker now and not as in previous Mandrake releases?

I don't really know.
According to the docs of mc it should have never worked that way, so i guess
everything is alright now :-)
But yes, it's a bit odd.


--
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Linux 2.4.18-20mdksmp, up 1 day, 17:03
Registered User #163523





[Cooker] man/less problem ?

2002-07-13 Thread Fabrice MARIE


Hello,

After a fresh cooker total update,
man now display some characters as garbage, see
part of man manpage for example, especially the options :

# man man

OPTIONS
 âˆâˆ’C  config_file
  Specify the configuration file to use;
  the default is /usr//etc/man.config.
  (See man.conf(5).)

 âˆâˆ’M  path
  Specify the list of directories to search for man pages.
  Separate the directories with colons.  An empty list is the same as
  not specifying âˆâˆ’M at all.  See SEARCH PATH FOR MANUAL PAGES.

 âˆâˆ’P  pager[...]

# rpm -q man less
man-1.5j-9mdk
less-374-4mdk

Anybody else have this problem ?

PS:
Thanks for the quick perl update completion. Much appreciated :)

Have a nice day,

Fabrice.
--
Fabrice MARIE
Senior R&D Engineer
Celestix Networks
http://www.celestix.com/

"Silly hacker, root is for administrators"
   -Unknown




[Cooker] nautilus2 issues

2002-07-13 Thread Anne et Bertrand

I've compiled and installed gnome2 from cooker source on my 8.2ppc (I
had to unsinstall gnome-core-1.4 and nautilus-1 to avoid conflicts). It 
seems to run
almost well and fast, even on my 180 Mhz ppc.

I noticed several issues in nautilus-2.0.0-5  I didn't see in 
nautilus.bugzilla. So I post them here


1 - after a "nautilus -q", all my icons positions are lost, and all of 
them place at the same place at the top left of the screen.

2 - A migration issue : my nautilus-1 scripts weren't taken into 
account and didn't appear
in the menu, because the script directory isn't at the same place 
anymore. 
3 - The "open scripts directory" entry in the file menu, when activated
for the first time, creates a ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts directory.
Once this is done, nautilus becomes very slow (to open windows, to
change directories, to move to trash, to pop up menus, etc., but not
the text, eog and gtkhtml views). In fact, more than nautilus-1.
Deleting this directory and restarting nautilus solves the problem. As 
a consequence, I can't use scripts in nautilus-2 by now.

4 - I tested nautilus in several user accounts. I created a special new
user account (named "gnome2") to test it in a clean environnement. In
this user account, nautilus runs fast.
But in my other accounts,
where I used to run gnome1 before (let's call them "gnome1 accounts"),
nautilus is very slow. I didn't find any solution and it is the most
annoying bug. The most weird thing is the following : when running a
terminal in the gnome2 user account, if I make a su to one of this
"gnome1 user" and launch nautilus2 (being then a "gnome1 user"), it
opens and runs fast !!!

Cheers,
Bertrand Dekoninck





Re: [Cooker] pasting into mc edit

2002-07-13 Thread Oden Eriksson

On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 12.23 Marcel Pol wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:44:49 +0200
>
> Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's impossible to paste into mc:s internal editor running in a X
> > console, what's wrong?
>
> Works here in konsole and mc.
> You do use "shift" when pasting in mc?

No I didn't, but now I did and that worked, thanks. Why do I have to press 
shift in Cooker now and not as in previous Mandrake releases?

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[Cooker] cluster dudez?

2002-07-13 Thread Oden Eriksson

Hi

I wonder if there's some cluster experts in this forum? I'm particulary 
interested in what type of NIC:s you are using, I've been searching for a 
good quad nic that will do, but found no valuble info yet. You can contact me 
off list if you prefer that. Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] pasting into mc edit

2002-07-13 Thread Marcel Pol

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:44:49 +0200
Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's impossible to paste into mc:s internal editor running in a X console, 
> what's wrong?

Works here in konsole and mc.
You do use "shift" when pasting in mc?


--
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Linux 2.4.18-20mdksmp, up 1 day, 15:03
Registered User #163523





Re: [Cooker] warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root

2002-07-13 Thread Oden Eriksson

On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 11.34 Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
> Oden Eriksson wrote:
> >On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 09.37 Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
> >>When installing ypbind:
> >>
> >>warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root
> >>
> >>I've seen more of these lately... (same goes for apache)
> >
> >If you ask me this is just plain stupid... The latest setup package lacks
> >nearly all system (daemon/services) accounts. qmail, djbdns, apache, etc.
> > I still haven't gotten an answer why this change.
>
> Nobody will complain about it because the file gets created as
> .rpmnew... once you put the file in place, the party starts...

That only if you upgrade right?

The thing is that if you manually migrate stuff later you need to do a lot of 
chown:ing. And copying/synching files between machines won't work as easily 
anymore because there's no more static uid/gid:s.

The only way to make a "server farm" with identical Mandrake machines from now 
on is to a.) use disk cloning, b.) use replay_install.img or c.) use your own 
setup rpm (your own distro...).

This is a bad move Mandrake...

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Re: [Cooker] NFS install

2002-07-13 Thread David Walser

I'm using a regular floppy.

--- Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 01:15, David Walser wrote:
> > Does *anybody* do NFS installs?  Is it broken? 
> What's
> > the deal?
> 
> I've not tried NFS, but i've had equally big
> problems with an FTP
> install recently, on two different platforms whose
> only common feature
> is the floppy drive (Sony USB floppy.) It just
> crashes out immediately
> after setting the network parameters citing 'fatal
> error' on the main
> console but with nothing obvious having gone wrong
> on the others. People
> familiar with the install process, would it be
> trying to access the
> floppy at this point? If so, would it be confused by
> the floppy not
> appearing at /dev/fd0? i've had consistent problems
> with USB floppies
> and Linux installations, all of which could be
> solved simply by making
> the install process look for the floppy drive at
> /dev/sda as well as at
> /dev/fd0...but it seems a trifle early in the
> process for this to raise
> its head, at the equivalent point in the other
> installs that failed they
> were still working and still reading the drive...
> -- 
> adamw
> 
> 

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Re: [Cooker] pasting into mc edit

2002-07-13 Thread Oden Eriksson

On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 11.31 Christian Gennerat wrote:
> With this line in .Xdefaults
> XTerm*VT100*translations:#override \
> ShiftF1:string("\033[25~") \n\
> 
> ShiftF8:string("\033[34~") \n\
> ShiftF12:insert-selection(PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0) \n\
> ShiftUp:string("\033OA") \n\
>
> I paste with Shift-F12

Thanks!, I'll try that. 

I usally paste with the middle mouse button, and that's broken in latest 
Cooker+mc. It works with for example nano.

> Oden Eriksson wrote:
> >Hi.
> >
> >It's impossible to paste into mc:s internal editor running in a X console,
> >what's wrong?

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Re: [Cooker] warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root

2002-07-13 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

Oden Eriksson wrote:

>On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 09.37 Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
>  
>
>>When installing ypbind:
>>
>>warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root
>>
>>I've seen more of these lately... (same goes for apache)
>>
>>
>
>If you ask me this is just plain stupid... The latest setup package lacks 
>nearly all system (daemon/services) accounts. qmail, djbdns, apache, etc. I 
>still haven't gotten an answer why this change.
>
Nobody will complain about it because the file gets created as 
.rpmnew... once you put the file in place, the party starts...

Stefan






Re: [Cooker] lm_sensors (2)

2002-07-13 Thread Oden Eriksson

On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 04.35 Ben Reser wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 11:17:30PM +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > GRR!!
> >
> >
> > It turned out to be _MUCH_ simpler than I thought..., the lm_sensors
> > package in Cooker is v2.6.2, and v2.6.3 in the kernel... This package
> > hasn't been touched since Jan 26.
> >
> > Juan, please upgrade the lm_sensors package, thanks.
> >
> > You can grab "http://d-srv.com/D/SRPMS/lm_sensors-2.6.3-1mdk.src.rpm"; if
> > you're lazy.
>
> Ohh thanks.  I tried to make sensors work with my new machine but ran
> into an "unimplemented" driver that was needed.  So I didn't bother
> looking further.  Your package indeed resolved the issue.  Thanks :)
>
> Seems as though we have very similar machines.

I have a cool kernel there too which I use in every SNF like firewall I 
"deliver" :)

Check: http://d-srv.com/D/

And: http://d-srv.com/D/RPMS/kernel.readme

:-)

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Re: [Cooker] warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root

2002-07-13 Thread Oden Eriksson

On lördagen den 13 juli 2002 09.37 Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
> When installing ypbind:
>
> warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root
>
> I've seen more of these lately... (same goes for apache)

If you ask me this is just plain stupid... The latest setup package lacks 
nearly all system (daemon/services) accounts. qmail, djbdns, apache, etc. I 
still haven't gotten an answer why this change.

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Looking for a scalable and error free (q)mail solution?, 
look no further, visit http://d-srv.com





Re: [Cooker] pasting into mc edit

2002-07-13 Thread Christian Gennerat

With this line in .Xdefaults
XTerm*VT100*translations:#override \
ShiftF1:string("\033[25~") \n\

ShiftF8:string("\033[34~") \n\
ShiftF12:insert-selection(PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0) \n\
ShiftUp:string("\033OA") \n\

I paste with Shift-F12

Oden Eriksson wrote:

>Hi.
>
>It's impossible to paste into mc:s internal editor running in a X console, 
>what's wrong?
>






Re: [Cooker] NFS install

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Williamson

On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 01:15, David Walser wrote:
> Does *anybody* do NFS installs?  Is it broken?  What's
> the deal?

I've not tried NFS, but i've had equally big problems with an FTP
install recently, on two different platforms whose only common feature
is the floppy drive (Sony USB floppy.) It just crashes out immediately
after setting the network parameters citing 'fatal error' on the main
console but with nothing obvious having gone wrong on the others. People
familiar with the install process, would it be trying to access the
floppy at this point? If so, would it be confused by the floppy not
appearing at /dev/fd0? i've had consistent problems with USB floppies
and Linux installations, all of which could be solved simply by making
the install process look for the floppy drive at /dev/sda as well as at
/dev/fd0...but it seems a trifle early in the process for this to raise
its head, at the equivalent point in the other installs that failed they
were still working and still reading the drive...
-- 
adamw





[Cooker] warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root

2002-07-13 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

When installing ypbind:

warning: group rpcuser does not exist - using root

I've seen more of these lately... (same goes for apache)

Stefan