Re: [Cooker] mkttfdir - Segmentation fault

2002-08-08 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne

On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, R. Scott Chevalley wrote:

> Could be a bad font file.  run mkttfdir with strace to trace the 
> segfault and see if it is trying to open a
> particular font.
> 
> # strace mkttfdir

Then, better filter the open() syscall with: strace -eopen





Re: [Cooker] Fyi - ISO Image Size - Burning from WinXP/Home

2002-08-08 Thread Jure Repinc

liquid wrote:
> I am using WinRar 3.0, and Win XP Pro, and my computer is a AMD athlon
> 1.4ghz, and I have no problems. It has to be your burning software, I do
> hope you aren't using windows xp's burning software. Re-reading your
> email, I see it is winxp doing the burning.. Come on man, that's
> horrid... Don't leave it up to Windows to make a burning software, get a
> real software. Nero is great, or fireburner, or whatever.

I agree. I tried Windows XPs burning support just aout of curiosity and 
I have to tell you it is no good. It's clumsy and it often had troubles. 
Just switched off burning OSes burning support. I use Nero Burning ROM 
and it works great everytime.

-- 
Live long and prosper!






[Cooker] figaro password manager

2002-08-08 Thread Eugenio Diaz

I have been using fpm for the last couple of years (figaro's password 
manager) to manage all my password, and it has been pretty stable. Is 
there any password manager in cooker currently? If not, could we include 
this one?

-- 
Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE
Linux Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






[Cooker] Re: gnome still doesn't start.

2002-08-08 Thread Frederic Crozat

Le ven 09/08/2002 à 01:05, Han a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I installed the  latest  updates  from  the  cooker  mirror.  I  made  a
> test-account on which happens exactly the same as with my own account. I
> don't know why this is happening and I seem to be the only  one  who  is
> bothered by this problem.
> 
> So lets debug this before the masses run into it.
> 
> I included a list with all the rpms installed on my system.

It doesn't help without the error message..


-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft





[Cooker] libguicast

2002-08-08 Thread Eugenio Diaz

What provides libguicast.so?

[root@fulgore:/home/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS]# 
rpm -Fvh bcast-2000c-12mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
libguicast.so   is needed by bcast-2000c-12mdk
[root@fulgore:/home/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS]#

-- 
Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE
Linux Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






[Cooker] xinet security updates

2002-08-08 Thread Eugenio Diaz

One of my best friends, who is a main developer of xinetd alerted me to 
several security problems that were fixed in the last version 2.3.6. He 
suggested we should update cooker before the 9.0 release.

-- 
Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE
Linux Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò

Igor Izyumin wrote:

 > On Thursday 08 August 2002 10:15 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
 >
 >>That is not Mandrake's fault.  Mandrake doesn't control the kernel.
 >>They just package it, include a few patches.  Changing the driver model
 >>is something that will take the cooperation of the core kernel
 >>developers, especially Linus and Alan Cox.
 >
 > I'm not faulting Mandrake.  I'm saying you can't compare it with Windows
 > directly.
 >
 >
 >>I still think you're barking up the wrong tree for the issues.
 >>
 >>Mandrake has a policy that they don't ship binaries on the GPL CDs.  I
 >>think this is a reasonable policy.  They do ship binary drivers,
 >>depending on the license, in the commercial CD set.
 >
 > Yes, it is a reasonable policy.  I don't own a CD set, so I can't say what the
 > quality of it is (I am a "silver" Mandrakeclub member, though).
 >
 >
 >>Fact is most of the newbie users who will have difficultly installing
 >>these drivers probably are using the commercial CD sets.  But even those
 >>that aren't the Mandrake Club has started packaging some based upon
 >>requests.  For example you can now download RPMs for Nvidia drivers.
 >
 > Yes, although some packages in Mandrakeclub seem to be just links to the
 > manufacturer's RPMs.  These don't always work out of the box, from my
 > experience (example: conexant HCF/HSF modems).

AFAIK from what I tried with conexant modems requires an ACPI kernel (which is 
not the case of our latest).

Bye.
Giuseppe.







Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems: hiding source is totally bogus

2002-08-08 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò

Leon Brooks wrote:
 > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:45, Igor Izyumin wrote:
 >
 >>Sometimes, they don't have a choice.
 >
 > Yeah, like about once in every two blue moons.
 >
 >
 >>They may have trade secrets or
 >>something within the driver that would prevent it from being open-sourced.
 >>For example, if nVidia open-sourced their driver, their competitors could
 >>use their work for their own chips.  Do you think they want that?
 >
 > No, I don't. But it _is_ a totally bogus excuse. Their competitors _will_ be
 > clean-rooming their chips and disassembling their drivers anyway. It's one of
 > those if-you-outlaw-guns-then-only-outlaws-will-have-guns problems. As things
 > stand, *only* their competitors have access to their `secrets' and not you or
 > I, not their more-or-less friends! What could be a worse situation than that?
 > Better to also give their allies access, no?
 >
 > Some point-haired-boss moron lawyer makes that decision, not someone with
 > their brains actually operating.
 >
 > Cheers; Leon
 >
 >

IMHO, the fact is that sometimes the same company don't probably totally
owns the code they include in the closed (or partially closed source) drivers.
they ship. E.g. for NVidia I've read it's due to code written from SGI (GLX).

Also other companies have claimed the same policy (e.g. the Matrox has the
HAL library in closed source object binary only [and thus not included in XFree]).

Others instead tried a different approach and let their drivers to be
included open source in the main linux/XFree tree (e.g. Adaptec, Compaq for
RAID).

In other cases, instead companies released binary only drivers but
abandoned it (e.g. the ESS module for ESS based winmodems,
or the Lexmark printer drivers) so they would work only on old 
kernels/distributions.

Bye.
Giuseppe.






[Cooker] emacs-21.2-9mdk

2002-08-08 Thread Thierry SAURA


After installing this new package, I observe a strange behaviour of
the emacs window. When I launched emacs, the windows opens with 85x46
geometry (Xdefaults) and at the end of the init stage, the window
switches to 85x43 geometry when the toobar disappears :
in /etc/emacs/site-start.el
...
;; (pixel) Hide toolbar since it's not useful
(tool-bar-mode -1)
...

When I open a new frame, the geometry is ok (85x46).

I'm ok with the comment but how avoiding the resizing of the first
window ?

Thierry Saura.




RE: [Cooker] Fyi - ISO Image Size - Burning from WinXP/Home

2002-08-08 Thread liquid

I am using WinRar 3.0, and Win XP Pro, and my computer is a AMD athlon
1.4ghz, and I have no problems. It has to be your burning software, I do
hope you aren't using windows xp's burning software. Re-reading your
email, I see it is winxp doing the burning.. Come on man, that's
horrid... Don't leave it up to Windows to make a burning software, get a
real software. Nero is great, or fireburner, or whatever.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of allen
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Cooker] Fyi - ISO Image Size - Burning from WinXP/Home


XP/Home does not want to burn 700MB.  It says it wants the
ISO to be 44MB smaller to fit on the media.

This same media has been working fine from my Linux desktop
machine for a couple years ( big stack of CD media ) and I believe
previous
ISO's (8.2 and before) were of a similar size.

I will try different media soon to see what happens.

This may be of interest, maybe not.  Marketing people may
go "hmn..."

Anyone else see anything like this ?  Just my media sucks ?
( Maybe winrar is interfering, have to try that too.  Winrar is the
  app that "knows" what an .iso is )

If it matters, this is a compaq presario 715us, Athlon 1.4Ghz,
Toshiba DVD/CD R,RW.  And it has latest updates from both
Redmond, and Compaq Driver updates as of today.  

The compaq driver updates are necessary due to PIO vs. DMA on the 
CD Drive, evidently a "wrong" default registry setting that cripples
CD Write-ability.

The "software" doing the burning is XP/Home itself.  Drag-n-plop to
the CD drive, click a wizard.





[Cooker] tetex-doc-1.0.7-54mdk.i586.rpm

2002-08-08 Thread Thierry SAURA


[root@combo RPMS]# rpm -Uv tetex-doc-1.0.7-54mdk.i586.rpm 
Preparing packages for installation...
tetex-doc-1.0.7-54mdk
error: unpacking of archive failed on file 
/usr/share/texmf/doc/omega/base/omega-manual.pdf;3d535877: cpio: read failed - Bad 
file descriptor

Thierry Saura.




[Cooker] Fyi - ISO Image Size - Burning from WinXP/Home

2002-08-08 Thread allen


XP/Home does not want to burn 700MB.  It says it wants the
ISO to be 44MB smaller to fit on the media.

This same media has been working fine from my Linux desktop
machine for a couple years ( big stack of CD media ) and I believe previous
ISO's (8.2 and before) were of a similar size.

I will try different media soon to see what happens.

This may be of interest, maybe not.  Marketing people may
go "hmn..."

Anyone else see anything like this ?  Just my media sucks ?
( Maybe winrar is interfering, have to try that too.  Winrar is the
  app that "knows" what an .iso is )

If it matters, this is a compaq presario 715us, Athlon 1.4Ghz,
Toshiba DVD/CD R,RW.  And it has latest updates from both
Redmond, and Compaq Driver updates as of today.  

The compaq driver updates are necessary due to PIO vs. DMA on the 
CD Drive, evidently a "wrong" default registry setting that cripples
CD Write-ability.

The "software" doing the burning is XP/Home itself.  Drag-n-plop to
the CD drive, click a wizard.

-AEF

--
  My new laptop is XP/Home, but before you laugh at me, it has
  VMWare and mdk 8.2 also ;)






Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation - rapport de bug beta 9 rpm2 installé via cooker d

2002-08-08 Thread Aurélien Bompard

Bonjour,

Ce fichier est installé par la bêta, j'ai eu le même problème que vous car 
j'utilise cooker depuis juin.
Je vous le met en attachement.
Si vous bêta-testez cooker, je vous conseille de vous abonner à la 
mailing-list de cooker. Pour ce faire, cliquez sur le lien "cooker" de la 
page d'accueil, dans la partie "je suis développeur", et lisez les 
instructions de la page ou vous arriverez.
Bon bêta testing ! :-)

Aurélien Bompard

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 # --- Workstation

Office Workstation [icon=office] [path=Workstation] [descr=Office programs: 
wordprocessors (kword, abiword), spreadsheets (kspread, gnumeric), pdf viewers, etc]
OFFICE
PUBLISHING
PIM

Game station [icon=arcade] [path=Workstation] [descr=Amusement programs: arcade, 
boards, strategy, etc]
GAMES

Multimedia station [icon=multimedia] [path=Workstation] [descr=Sound and video 
playing/editing programs]
AUDIO
VIDEO
GRAPHICS

Internet station [icon=networking] [path=Workstation] [descr=Set of tools to read and 
send mail and news (pine, mutt, tin..) and to browse the Web]
NETWORKING_WWW
NETWORKING_MAIL
NETWORKING_NEWS
COMMUNICATIONS
NETWORKING_CHAT
NETWORKING_FILE_TRANSFER
NETWORKING_IRC
NETWORKING_INSTANT_MESSAGING
NETWORKING_DNS

Network Computer (client) [icon=terminals] [path=Workstation] [descr=Clients for 
different protocols including ssh]
NETWORKING_REMOTE_ACCESS
NETWORKING_FILE

Configuration [icon=configuration] [path=Workstation] [descr=Tools to ease the 
configuration of your computer]
CONFIG
WEBMIN

Scientific Workstation [icon=sciences] [path=Workstation] [descr=]
SCIENCES

Console Tools [icon=terminals] [path=Workstation] [descr=Editors, shells, file tools, 
terminals]
EDITORS
TERMINALS
TEXT_TOOLS
SHELLS
FILE_TOOLS

 # --- Graphical Environment

KDE Workstation [icon=kde] [path=Graphical Environment] [descr=The K Desktop 
Environment, the basic graphical environment with a collection of accompanying tools]
KDE
X

Gnome Workstation [icon=gnome] [path=Graphical Environment] [descr=A graphical 
environment with user-friendly set of applications and desktop tools]
GNOME
X

Other Graphical Desktops [icon=windowmanager] [path=Graphical Environment] 
[descr=Icewm, Window Maker, Enlightenment, Fvwm, etc]
GRAPHICAL_DESKTOP
X


 # --- Development

Development [icon=editors] [path=Development] [descr=C and C++ development libraries, 
programs and include files]
DEVELOPMENT
EDITORS

Documentation [icon=documentation] [path=Development] [descr=Books and Howto's on 
Linux and Free Software]
BOOKS

 # --- Server

Web/FTP  [icon=file_transfer] [path=Server] [descr=Apache, Pro-ftpd]
NETWORKING_WWW_SERVER
NETWORKING_FILE_TRANSFER_SERVER

Mail/Groupware/News [icon=mail] [path=Server] [descr=Postfix mail server, Inn news 
server]
NETWORKING_MAIL_SERVER
NETWORKING_NEWS_SERVER

Database [icon=archiving] [path=Server] [descr=PostgreSQL or MySQL database server]
DATABASES
DATABASES_SERVER

Firewall/Router [icon=networking] [path=Server] [descr=Internet gateway]
NETWORKING_FIREWALLING_SERVER

DNS/NIS [icon=hardware] [path=Server] [descr=Domain Name and Network Information 
Server] 
NIS_SERVER
NETWORKING_DNS_SERVER

Network Computer server [icon=networking] [path=Server] [descr=NFS server, SMB server, 
Proxy server, ssh server]
NETWORKING_FILE_SERVER
NETWORKING_REMOTE_ACCESS_SERVER



Thank you - Re: [Cooker] Beta2 - rpmdrake - manual upgrade

2002-08-08 Thread allen


Somehow I didn't see that in the archive... maybe I needed to go
back a week or so...  oops...

The other problem is still interesting about the "db4" and Page not found.

Does anyone else test trying to upgrade things manually or is that
not kosher ?

-AEF


On Thursday 08 August 2002 11:25 pm, Damon Lynch wrote:
> In an earlier mail on this list someone pointed out this:
>
> ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/mandrake/cooker/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/comps
>sUsers
>
> Download it and name it /var/lib/urpmi/compssUsers.flat.  Or copy it
> from any 8.2 box.  gc posted a URL last week to download the one that he
> uses.
>
> On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 14:22, allen wrote:
> > How do I get a compssUsers.flat if I do not boot off of the cd
> > and use that upgrade method ?





Re: [Cooker] Ship beta CDs?

2002-08-08 Thread Ben Reser

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 10:15:44PM -0500, Gordon Hollenbeck wrote:
> Because DirePC limits my downloading to 150MB a day, it takes me a while
> to get the beta ISOs downloaded (I couldn't get beta 1 downloaded before
> beta 2 came out), so I was wondering if anyone could mail me the CDs and
> I could mail back blank replacements.
> 
> It would be nice if someone in Texas, USA could help (faster shipping
> times) so that I can start beta testing before the next beta comes out.

I'd be willing to but I'm in Washington State.

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it 
be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you.
- The Wisdom of the Sands




Re: [Cooker] Beta2 - rpmdrake - manual upgrade

2002-08-08 Thread Damon Lynch

In an earlier mail on this list someone pointed out this:

ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/mandrake/cooker/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/compssUsers

Download it and name it /var/lib/urpmi/compssUsers.flat.  Or copy it
from any 8.2 box.  gc posted a URL last week to download the one that he
uses.

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 14:22, allen wrote:
> 
> How do I get a compssUsers.flat if I do not boot off of the cd
> and use that upgrade method ?






Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Thursday 08 August 2002 09:07 pm, Igor Izyumin wrote:
>
> > Your argument is falling on deaf ears anyway.  The policy is set.  It's
> > not going to change now.

Exactly the point. Not to mention that allot of us agree with the way it's 
being done. You want to know how it works in real life? This is an example. 
You can download the drivers from nvidia of whoever and they don't charge you 
but when mandrake or red hat or whoever aproaches them and says can we 
distibute your drivers with our product? The response for allot of these 
things is yes you can for 1$ for every time you give it out or whatever price 
they set. I'm not saying nvidia does this but alot of other companies do. So 
the policy is you have to pay to get them because it costs mandrake to give 
them out. 

Now is it fair to say gime gime gime when it costs mandrake to give it out and 
yet you want it for free. Well that is if it is to be put on the gpl cd's. I 
understand you pay for it.

Please read this before you say anything back:

http://www.water-cool.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=17

It's called why we should not take linux for granted please do read it.
>
> I was mostly hoping to change some people's attitudes towards a few things,
> I don't really care much about changing policies.  I know, this is probably
> not the right forum for such things (sorry :), but I think  that sometimes
> people need to consider things from more than one viewpoint.

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[Cooker] Licq 1.2.0a?

2002-08-08 Thread David Walser

Hi, not trying to be impatient, but I'm just wondering
if a Licq 1.2.0a package is heading our way.  Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Igor Izyumin

On Thursday 08 August 2002 10:15 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> That is not Mandrake's fault.  Mandrake doesn't control the kernel.
> They just package it, include a few patches.  Changing the driver model
> is something that will take the cooperation of the core kernel
> developers, especially Linus and Alan Cox.
I'm not faulting Mandrake.  I'm saying you can't compare it with Windows 
directly.

> I still think you're barking up the wrong tree for the issues.
>
> Mandrake has a policy that they don't ship binaries on the GPL CDs.  I
> think this is a reasonable policy.  They do ship binary drivers,
> depending on the license, in the commercial CD set.
Yes, it is a reasonable policy.  I don't own a CD set, so I can't say what the 
quality of it is (I am a "silver" Mandrakeclub member, though).  

> Fact is most of the newbie users who will have difficultly installing
> these drivers probably are using the commercial CD sets.  But even those
> that aren't the Mandrake Club has started packaging some based upon
> requests.  For example you can now download RPMs for Nvidia drivers.
Yes, although some packages in Mandrakeclub seem to be just links to the 
manufacturer's RPMs.  These don't always work out of the box, from my 
experience (example: conexant HCF/HSF modems).

> Your argument is falling on deaf ears anyway.  The policy is set.  It's
> not going to change now.
I was mostly hoping to change some people's attitudes towards a few things, I 
don't really care much about changing policies.  I know, this is probably not 
the right forum for such things (sorry :), but I think  that sometimes people 
need to consider things from more than one viewpoint.
-- 
-- Igor




[Cooker] Ship beta CDs?

2002-08-08 Thread Gordon Hollenbeck

Because DirePC limits my downloading to 150MB a day, it takes me a while
to get the beta ISOs downloaded (I couldn't get beta 1 downloaded before
beta 2 came out), so I was wondering if anyone could mail me the CDs and
I could mail back blank replacements.

It would be nice if someone in Texas, USA could help (faster shipping
times) so that I can start beta testing before the next beta comes out.

-- 


"I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure."
Gordon Hollenbeck | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AKA: Thrawn  / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 60306035   / MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---+
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 The Next Wave  Looking for web host
   http://www.murtos.com/po/





[Cooker] DirecPC stalled downloads

2002-08-08 Thread Gordon Hollenbeck

I am behind a SyGate gateway that is under Windows 98. The internet
access is provided by DirePC.  Previously, 90% of all downloads stalled.
The problem is in the communication from the client to the server, the
server wasn't receiving the ack TCP messages from the client. See the
attached output of tcpdump.
ack 4489777
That line is repeated often.  It is the acknowledgment by the client to
the server to say that he has received the TCP packets.

I suspect that the gateway is at fault (Winblows). But to make a long
story short, the solution to the problem is to put the following in
/etc/rc.local:

echo 134900 >> /proc/sys/net/core/rmem_default 
echo 134900 >> /proc/sys/net/core/rmem_max 
echo 0 >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps 
echo 1 >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_sack 
echo 1 >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling 
ifconfig eth0 mtu 1460 

To make this easier for users, in drakconnect, you could ask "Are you
using DirecPC?" and if they are, add those lines to rc.local.


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[Cooker] shorewall-1.3.6

2002-08-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

http://freshmeat.net/releases/93255/
-- 
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Deserve-IT Networks -> http://d-srv.com




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Ben Reser

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 10:10:21PM -0500, Igor Izyumin wrote:
> Do you think Mandrake should always be one step behind Microsoft?  Then why 
> not use Microsoft?  Are you saying Microsoft should be the role model for 
> Mandrake?  And by the way, it's hell of a lot easier to install drivers under 
> Microsoft's OSs than with Linux.  When you can install any driver on Linux in 
> about 10 minutes without using the console, then you can begin drawing lines 
> between Linux and Windows.

That is not Mandrake's fault.  Mandrake doesn't control the kernel.
They just package it, include a few patches.  Changing the driver model
is something that will take the cooperation of the core kernel
developers, especially Linus and Alan Cox.  

I still think you're barking up the wrong tree for the issues.

Mandrake has a policy that they don't ship binaries on the GPL CDs.  I
think this is a reasonable policy.  They do ship binary drivers,
depending on the license, in the commercial CD set.  

Fact is most of the newbie users who will have difficultly installing
these drivers probably are using the commercial CD sets.  But even those
that aren't the Mandrake Club has started packaging some based upon
requests.  For example you can now download RPMs for Nvidia drivers.

Your argument is falling on deaf ears anyway.  The policy is set.  It's
not going to change now.

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it 
be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you.
- The Wisdom of the Sands




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Igor Izyumin

On Thursday 08 August 2002 05:42 pm, Brook Humphrey wrote:
> Again complain about this to the companies. When was the last time windows
> included nvidia drivers. They include a generic frame buffer driver and if
> you want the other you have to install it. Wow mandrake does you one better
> if you buy the product they even include the drivers for you. They are
> already one step ahead of microsoft.

Do you think Mandrake should always be one step behind Microsoft?  Then why 
not use Microsoft?  Are you saying Microsoft should be the role model for 
Mandrake?  And by the way, it's hell of a lot easier to install drivers under 
Microsoft's OSs than with Linux.  When you can install any driver on Linux in 
about 10 minutes without using the console, then you can begin drawing lines 
between Linux and Windows.
-- 
-- Igor




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems: hiding source is totally bogus

2002-08-08 Thread Igor Izyumin

On Thursday 08 August 2002 07:52 pm, Leon Brooks wrote:
> No, I don't. But it _is_ a totally bogus excuse. Their competitors _will_
> be clean-rooming their chips and disassembling their drivers anyway.

I very much doubt that - it's too hard and too expensive.  It's hard enough to 
write drivers, and even harder to disassemble them.  It's easier to develop 
your own, I would think.  But when you have full access to the source code, 
it's a different story.

> It's
> one of those if-you-outlaw-guns-then-only-outlaws-will-have-guns problems.
> As things stand, *only* their competitors have access to their `secrets'
> and not you or I, not their more-or-less friends! What could be a worse
> situation than that? Better to also give their allies access, no?

Well, they won't really care; if their competitors do reverse engineer their 
drivers, they will pay double for the drivers and will be left with a 
technology that's a generation old.  It's kinda like the joke about stealing 
computer blueprints... by the time you steal them, they're already outdated.  
The goal is to make it harder - it's just like security screws and warranty 
stickers on hardware.

> Some point-haired-boss moron lawyer makes that decision, not someone with
> their brains actually operating.
Yes, but that's the reality.  An OEM won't permit their techies to distribute 
drivers if it's not ok with the lawyerbots.
-- 
-- Igor




Re: [Cooker] drakconf/menudrake close bug

2002-08-08 Thread Daouda LO

Alastair Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i. from the Control Centre, select System | Menus;
> 
> ii. close the 'Menu to edit' window (ie press neither 'System menu' or 'Root 
> menu');
> 
> iii. menudrake goes on to edit the System menu.
> 
> Of course, focus should go back to the Control Centre after step ii.

Could you rephrase? What's the exact problem? Trying to follow your
steps but fail to reproduce the 'bug'.





[Cooker] Beta2 - rpmdrake - manual upgrade

2002-08-08 Thread allen


I have Mandrake 9.0 Beta 2 "on top of" Mandrake 8.2
via a little combination of "rpm -Uvh"  "rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force"
"urpmi..."

rpmdrake... sheesh.

Anyway, it is in a way "cooler" than the old one.  I would like
to make it work... er, better.

I have two problems, as they both have to do directly with rpmdrake
I'm including them here.

1.  Since I upgraded most everything manually, rpmdrake complains
something about not having the [   compssUsers.flat ]

I can make it shut up by "touch"ing that file.

How do I get a compssUsers.flat if I do not boot off of the cd
and use that upgrade method ?

I'm braindead or there's no docs...


2.  This seems to have cleared up but I was getting a lot of complaining
about "db4   page not found"

Seemed like a memory swapping something kind of problem.

There is no db4 anything that appears to be included in the beta.

This is either two questions or two bug reports...

?

-AEF




Re: [Cooker] rfbdrake-0.8.3-4mdk

2002-08-08 Thread Daouda LO

Tech At Mathco Dot Com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When running rfbdrake from the kde menu it starts up but dies
> after a few seconds after connecting to the host... showing below.

Seems to be fixed now. Could you test with rfbdrake-0.8.3-6mdk?




Re: [Cooker] Gnomemeeting Error

2002-08-08 Thread Daouda LO

"David Bolin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> rpm -qa | grep pwlib = pwlib1-1.3.3-1mdk
> rpm -qa | grep openh323 = openh323_1-1.9.3-1mdk
> rpm -q gnomemeeting = gnomemeeting-0.92-0.4mdk

latest gnomemeeting is 0.93-2mdk.




[Cooker] 9.0-beta2 drakconnect bug

2002-08-08 Thread daz

I just installed 9.0beta2 on a friends workstation and encountered a
showstopper bug in drakconnect.   here are the details:

I didnt set up networking on initial install because I didnt know what 
kind of ISA nic card was being used and auto-probing didnt work.  After 
the install, I found out it was a ne2000 compatible ISA card (ne module).  
Went to drakconf, started drakconnect.  ran the wizard, no go. I tried to 
specify the options, still no go.   however, from a cmd-line, I could load 
the module correctly (modprobe ne io=0x300). 

the problem:  drakconnect doesnt just run "modprobe ne io=0x300".  I runs 
"modprobe ne (comma seperated values) io=io=0x300". 2 notes.  1) the part 
in parans are definately in the command issued by drakconnect and 2) the 
duplicate 'io=' part might be me.   we didnt have time to check that part.


Also, I am not subscribed to the cooker list anymore, so if someone 
could get this to the right place? Im thinking any module that needs params 
will have this problem.

David

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Re: [Cooker] PHP configuration (almost everything is disabled)

2002-08-08 Thread Daouda LO

Richard Tango-Lowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Are you referring ot the extensions?
> 
> The php-session and php-gettext packages don't appear to be included
> with beta 2. I installed them from rpmfind and everything now works. Is
> there a reason they aren't included in 9.0?

They are now reintegrated in main.




[Cooker] gpilotd crashes

2002-08-08 Thread Joshua Newton

Using the very latest Cooker packages (as of about 1900 hours GMT-5:00,
8 August), gpilotd exhibits repeatable crashes on my system. In
addition, the gpilotd started by default during my GNOME login does not
respond to hotsync inits started by pushing the hotsync button on the
cradle.

More detail (1): Using gpilot-install-file to install a PDB or PRC file
seems to work fine, the first time I try it. The second time, gpilotd
crashes immediately after I press the hotsync button. For me, at least,
this is consistently reproduceable, and does not seem to depend on any
particular PRC or PDB file. Any hotsyncs that do not involve
gpilot-install-file seem to work just fine. After gpilotd dies, I can
restart it and try again, and the transfer works fine. A second attempt
at installing a file with gpilot-install-file always fails, and kills
gpilotd.

More detail (2): When I log into the GNOME environment, gpilotd appears
to have been started with no switches. Pressing the hotsync button on
the cradle does not start a transfer. After killing gpilotd and
restarting, hotsyncs initiated from the cradle work fine.

I'm using an IBM Workpad C3 (a rebadged Palm Vx) running PalmOS 4.1.
It's in a serial hotsync cradle connected to /dev/ttyS0.

A further nitpick: during testing of the gpilot-install-file problem, I
accidentally managed to produce a corrupted PDB file. Attempting to
transfer this seems to kill gpilotd instantly -- it would be nice if
gpilotd were to abort the transfer and recover gracefully.

-- 

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can be circumvented by their own Science. They become most displeased
if you suggest it would be more accurate to speak of the Generally
Good Idea of Gravity or the Three Useful Guidelines of
Thermodynamics."

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems: hiding source is totally bogus

2002-08-08 Thread Leon Brooks

On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:45, Igor Izyumin wrote:
> Sometimes, they don't have a choice.

Yeah, like about once in every two blue moons.

> They may have trade secrets or
> something within the driver that would prevent it from being open-sourced. 
> For example, if nVidia open-sourced their driver, their competitors could
> use their work for their own chips.  Do you think they want that?

No, I don't. But it _is_ a totally bogus excuse. Their competitors _will_ be 
clean-rooming their chips and disassembling their drivers anyway. It's one of 
those if-you-outlaw-guns-then-only-outlaws-will-have-guns problems. As things 
stand, *only* their competitors have access to their `secrets' and not you or 
I, not their more-or-less friends! What could be a worse situation than that? 
Better to also give their allies access, no?

Some point-haired-boss moron lawyer makes that decision, not someone with 
their brains actually operating.

Cheers; Leon





[Cooker] gco (GNOME Comics Oragnizer)

2002-08-08 Thread Ben Reser

This used to be in contrib but it disappeared back around like 7.1 as
far as I can tell.  I've repackaged it anew...  uploaded it to the
incoming folder.

Until (and if) it goes into contrib it's available here:
http://mirror.brain.org/linux/breser
(I have 8.2/i586, 8.2/ppc and cooker/x86 versions available there)

Name: gco  Relocations: (not
relocateable)
Version : 0.3.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Thu 08 Aug 2002
05:12:20 PM PDT
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:
occipital.brain.org
Group   : Databases Source RPM:
gco-0.3.3-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 248846   License: GPL
Packager: Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.daimi.au.dk/~maxx/html/maxximum-linux.html
Summary : GNOME Comics Organizer
Description :
GNOME Comics Organizer

GNOME Comics Organizer is a program to help you keep track of your
comics collection.

* Thu Aug 08 2002 Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.3.3-1mdk

- Reintroduce to Mandrake

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Re: [Cooker] Gnomemeeting Error

2002-08-08 Thread David Bolin

rpm -qa | grep pwlib = pwlib1-1.3.3-1mdk
rpm -qa | grep openh323 = openh323_1-1.9.3-1mdk
rpm -q gnomemeeting = gnomemeeting-0.92-0.4mdk



Florin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bolin) writes:
> 
> > [bscar@bscar bscar]$ gnomemeeting
> > gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol:
> > _ZTVN13PArrayObjects11ObjPtrArrayE
> > 
> 
> make sure you have the latest version.
> 
> what do you get with the following commands ?
> 
> rpm -qa|grep pwlib
> rpm -qa|grep openh323
> rpm -q gnomemeeting 
> 
> cheers,
> -- 
> Florinhttp://www.mandrakesoft.com
>   http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~florin/
> 



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Re: [Cooker] drakxservices

2002-08-08 Thread Pixel

Elliott Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> now after looking at it, it appears that all the scripts in /etc/init.d are in 
> order, but make up the second half of the alphabetized list.

i think i understand, i'll fix it.




Re: [Cooker] Resizing ext3 partition

2002-08-08 Thread Pixel

Paul Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi all,
> 
> I didn't have enough space to run the upgrade, so I thought I'd just use the
> partitioner to increase the size of my main ext3 partition. I got rid of the
> swap, leaving nothing but empty space "to the right" of the partition I want
> to make bigger, but the disk partitioner would only give me the option to
> shrink the partition. Is this the correct procedure? What action would you
> recommend?

you should have a log on console 3, something like

dumpe2fs /dev/xxx gives: ...

can you give it?




[Cooker] XPM icons and the howto...

2002-08-08 Thread Ben Reser

Just noticed that the howto still refers to icons for the menu system as
being xpm's.  It ought to reference png's. :)

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http://ben.reser.org

If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it 
be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you.
- The Wisdom of the Sands




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] djbsupport-1.0-4mdk

2002-08-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

On torsdagen den 8 augusti 2002 12.17 Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 02:14:03PM -0400, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > > Looking at ftp.rpmhelp.net/pub/Mandrake/djbware/9.0/RPMS, there is no
> > > qmail nor djbdns package (there are some for 8.2).
> > > Do I need to rebuild the 8.2 SRPMs for my cooker ?
> >
> > I don't know, but "rpm --rebuild the_file.src.rpm" would do the trick.
>
> Patience... =)  I just put the 9.0 tree up yesterday and haven't had a
> chance to put anything there yet.
>
> qmail will not work with a --rebuild, unless you use the 7.2 build,
> because qmail users are no longer in the setup package.  I have a new
> version that fixes this, but I've just been testing it these last days
> and haven't had a chance to put it on the site yet, along with the
> other packages.
>
> By this weekend they should be up.

Cool!. Then I rip these and see if I find time to make them dietized. I 
started on a dietizing howto for the DJB suite as an article for  
mandrakesecure.net, but it's damn hard to "put on paper".

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Deserve-IT Networks -> http://d-srv.com




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Thursday 08 August 2002 03:45 pm, Igor Izyumin wrote:
>
> As I said previously, you can't always expect open-source drivers, just
> like you can't expect every program to be free/open source.  Drivers cost
> money to develop, and open-sourcing them is not always an option.
Again complain about this to the companies. When was the last time windows 
included nvidia drivers. They include a generic frame buffer driver and if 
you want the other you have to install it. Wow mandrake does you one better 
if you buy the product they even include the drivers for you. They are 
already one step ahead of microsoft. 

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[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Wireless Prism2_pci/pcmcia(cs)/usb support

2002-08-08 Thread Alan Shoemaker

mandrakeexpert incident 28779 forwarded to cooker.
-- 
Alan

quoted text below

 ben_jir_man : 08/08 05:17 : Incident created Prism2_pci 
support is not available by default. the implementation of 
the source found at: http://www.linux-wlan.com would greatly 
improve the usefulness of mandrake 9.0 final when it is 
available. the source is (to my understanding) stable at this 
point, but when I attempt to build it under the newer 
versions of the kernel I recieve error messages about my 
kernel source being of invalid type. I'm sure the guys at the 
linux-wlan website would be happy to fix the little bugs if 
it were to get packaged with a distro.

Just a thought. Hope to see some wireless networking support 
on the GUI install in the near future, it would be amazing if 
it would auto-detect my card and just ask me for the required 
information to save to the /etc/wlan.conf files and have my 
wlan up and running out of the box.

Thanks for your time,

Benjamin Anderson

-end quoted text-




Re: [Cooker] PHP configuration (almost everything is disabled)

2002-08-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

On torsdagen den 8 augusti 2002 18.29 Richard Tango-Lowy wrote:
> Which other extensions are missing?

I have no idea because I don't have these ISO:s at home, I only have the 
Cooker repository.

> Rich
>
> On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 00:31, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > The php-session and php-gettext packages don't appear to be included
> > with beta 2. I installed them from rpmfind and everything now works.
> > Is there a reason they aren't included in 9.0?
>
> Oops, I think someone made a mistake there..., I have sent a list at
> least 2 times with the extensions that should be moved from contribs to
> main.

-- 
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[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / usb radio & devices

2002-08-08 Thread Alan Shoemaker

mandrakeexpert incident 28776 forwarded to cooker.
-- 
Alan

quoted text below

 myd2 : 08/08 04:28 : Incident created I have a dsbr100 
d-link usb radio.(and
a hauppage tv card)
When there was /dev/radio the radio worked good with the 
gradio program,
but with the late updates of mandrake,
even with Mandrake Linux 9.0 beta2,
I must write "gradio -d /dev/video1' for
the frequences to appear but the sound and
volume doesn't work at all.

Can you tell me what's wrong with that ?
My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for all.

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[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation - 9.0beta2 F1 key

2002-08-08 Thread Alan Shoemaker

mandrakeexpert incident 28741 forwarded to cooker.
-- 
Alan

quoted text below

 acmiddleton : 07/08 04:46 : Incident created Hitting F1 
following reboot (see my last ticket), just resulted in a 
pure blue screen. I hit ESC a couple of times and got some 
text, but I'm pretty sure the system is locked up (keyboard 
beeps now when I type any key, fan turned on, indicating CPU 
is in tight loop).

My system: Dell Latitude C600/C500, 1Ghz PIII, 256M SDRAM, 
14.1 SXGA display, 8x CDRW, Win2k/8.1 Mandrake dual boot. Had 
a compact flash plugged in, as well has ethernet cable. BIOS 
is up to date.

This problem is repeatible.

Good news: I rebooted, and this time tried just installing 
rather than upgrading linux, after a few boot messages, the 
GUI resumed. Everything from this point worked fine: I just 
set my mount point, picked packages, but did a cancel and 
went back and mounted /home because I forgot, and the install 
worked fine, though at the end of the first time wizard, when 
the browser was invoked, the size was wrong, and it looked 
confusing.

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Re: [Cooker] PHP configuration (almost everything is disabled)

2002-08-08 Thread Richard Tango-Lowy

Which other extensions are missing?

Rich

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 00:31, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> The php-session and php-gettext packages don't appear to be included
> with beta 2. I installed them from rpmfind and everything now works. Is
> there a reason they aren't included in 9.0?

Oops, I think someone made a mistake there..., I have sent a list at least 2 
times with the extensions that should be moved from contribs to main.
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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake-remove crash

2002-08-08 Thread Murray J. Root

On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:17:31 -0700
Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jaco Greeff wrote on Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:18:12AM +0200 :
> > 
> > I must admit, I don't like the fact that the rpmdrake* tools close down 
> > after installing/uninstalling one package.
> 
> gc fixed that in the current version.  It now restarts after an action
> completes.
> 

It's better, but it still looks rather silly to have it close and restart. It should 
just return to the file list.

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[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation - rapport de bug beta 9 rpm2 installé via cooker d

2002-08-08 Thread Alan Shoemaker

mandrakeexpert incident 28740 forwarded to cooker.
-- 
Alan

quoted text below

 taurus06800 : 07/08 04:39 : Incident created rpmdrake 
2.0.5.

apres une mise a jour de rpmdrake et de ses composants via 
cooker, je recois un message d'erreur lorsque je selectionne 
"install software" ou "remove software".
voici le message : "impossible de trouver 
/var/lib/urpmi/compssUsers.flat, l'installation aurait 
pourtant du le generer. la classification choix mandrake sera 
desactivée."

ce problmeme ne vient peut etre que de la version cooker mise 
a jour et ne concerne pas la beta...
cordialement.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
taurus06800 sur mandrake

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Igor Izyumin

On Thursday 08 August 2002 04:28 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> Yet so many people here complain because Mandrake doesn't ship xyz
> driver for their hardware.
I complain when they don't ship it on purpose, because of a "political" 
decision that could have been worked out with some effort.

>  Well the hardware manufacturers know that
> their drivers won't be integrated if they don't make source available.
> They've made a business decision.  They've decided that they don't care
> very much about Linux support or that the few people who use Linux won't
> mind going looking for their drivers.
Sometimes, they don't have a choice.  They may have trade secrets or something 
within the driver that would prevent it from being open-sourced.  For 
example, if nVidia open-sourced their driver, their competitors could use 
their work for their own chips.  Do you think they want that?

> So the way I see it is if you don't like the driver situation complain
> the the hardware manufacturers.  Ultimately they are the ones
> responsible for making the driver available.  They are the ones who have
> decided to make the drivers available under terms that are not really
> compatible with the Linux communities expectations.
As I said previously, you can't always expect open-source drivers, just like 
you can't expect every program to be free/open source.  Drivers cost money to 
develop, and open-sourcing them is not always an option.
-- 
-- Igor




Re: [Cooker] PHP configuration (almost everything is disabled)

2002-08-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

On torsdagen den 8 augusti 2002 18.10 Richard Tango-Lowy wrote:
> Are you referring ot the extensions?
>
> The php-session and php-gettext packages don't appear to be included
> with beta 2. I installed them from rpmfind and everything now works. Is
> there a reason they aren't included in 9.0?

Oops, I think someone made a mistake there..., I have sent a list at least 2 
times with the extensions that should be moved from contribs to main.

> Rich
>
> On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 13:32, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > In 8.2, almost everything was enabled. Is there a reason for the
> > change?
>
> My fault for cutting it to pieces..., but if you check further down on
> that same page there's valuble info for you.
>
> --
> Regards // Oden Eriksson
> Deserve-IT Networks -> http://d-srv.com

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[Cooker] live_update problems

2002-08-08 Thread Richard Garand

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For the last few days, live_update hasn't installed any packages. When it gets 
to the package installation stage it gives me several errors saying it 
couldn't install a package (19 last time I tried) and the a few seconds after 
the last error it goes on to the next stage, and it doesn't seem to install 
any new packages.

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake-remove crash

2002-08-08 Thread Todd Lyons

Jaco Greeff wrote on Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:18:12AM +0200 :
> 
> I must admit, I don't like the fact that the rpmdrake* tools close down 
> after installing/uninstalling one package.

gc fixed that in the current version.  It now restarts after an action
completes.

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [Cooker] PHP configuration (almost everything is disabled)

2002-08-08 Thread Richard Tango-Lowy




Are you referring ot the extensions?



The php-session and php-gettext packages don't appear to be included with beta 2. I installed them from rpmfind and everything now works. Is there a reason they aren't included in 9.0?



Rich



On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 13:32, Oden Eriksson wrote:


> In 8.2, almost everything was enabled. Is there a reason for the change?

My fault for cutting it to pieces..., but if you check further down on that 
same page there's valuble info for you.

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Todd Lyons

Igor Izyumin wrote on Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 12:39:47PM -0500 :
> 
> Also, about the nvidia drivers: they are some of the best drivers I have ever 
> used.  nVidia has the best 3D drivers out there.  And could somebody please 
> enlighten me about the usefulness of open-source drivers for a proprietary 
> video card or modem, especially if these drivers come with an open-source 
> wrapper (so that you can fix it when kernel changes break it)?

And they are only provided to you by Mandrake on the Commercial
Applications CDs.  I can see binary only winmodem drivers being placed
on the Commercial Apps CDs as well, but NOT in Main.

Blue skies...   Todd
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[Cooker] small rpmdrake bug

2002-08-08 Thread Danny Tholen

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If I add a new source in sourcemanager, but if it is unable to download the synthesis 
file the program
now adds the source but deactivates it. So far so good.
But If I then quit the sourcemanager and restart it, the source is there, unchecked, 
but upon editting it,
it lost its source location URL.

Danny

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[Cooker] Gaim don't work

2002-08-08 Thread Jeremy Salch

It crashes on run

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Re: [Cooker] drakxservices

2002-08-08 Thread Elliott Martin

On Thursday 08 August 2002 01:44 pm, Pixel wrote:
> Jure Repinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Pixel wrote:
> > > Elliott Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>Would it be posible to alphabetize the services listed in
> > >> drakxservices?
> > >
> > > alphabetize? what do you mean?
> >
> > Make an option to order/sort them by name.
>
> well, it's already done so, and that's also what i get when testing!

When I run drakxservices here's the ordering i get of the services (i'll just 
list the first letter...)

c,d,e,f,l,r,s,t,a,c,d,g,h,i,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,u,w,x

now after looking at it, it appears that all the scripts in /etc/init.d are in 
order, but make up the second half of the alphabetized list. maybe you could 
put all those in a frame or something if you are going to keep them separated 
like that, or just alphabetize the whole list.




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 beta 2 : XFdrake and S3Trio3D/2X

2002-08-08 Thread Aleksander Adamowski

Pixel wrote:

>4MB is the default, not the detected VideoRam ;pp
>
>I'm going to change this a little, but anyway I don't wanna rely on
>ddc probed VideoRam which is sometimes wrong (which caused the need
>for the "Show All" button in 8.2)
>
But some explanation to the user that suggested 4MB might be inaccurate 
would be nice :-)

BTW I'm noticing this on the console when runing XFdrake.:

using different removable device [/dev/hdb] for "disc 1 MandrakeLinux 
9.0 beta2 (x86) (cdrom1)"
using different removable device [/dev/hdb] for "disc 2 Mandrake Linux 
9.0 beta 2 (x86) (cdrom2)"
using different removable device [/dev/hdb] for "disc 3 Mandrake Linux 
9.0 beta 2 (x86) (cdrom3)"


Looks like supermount might be causing this. It may explain this cdrom - 
munging stuff...
What does XFdrake want to do with installer discs anyway?



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Re: [Cooker] Obvious upgrade from 9.0b1 to 9.0b2 bugs

2002-08-08 Thread Damon Lynch

On Thu, 2002-08-08 at 21:25, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> 
> > 3. The only correctly configured desktop icons under gnome 2 are
> >CD-ROM, CD-ROM (2), MandrakeOnline, and Trash.  The rest have
> >the foot icon.
> 
> What is "the rest" ??
> 
Apologies Frederic.  I was referring to icons such as the various
Mandrake icons like Mandrake Control Center (except for MandrakeOnline),
as well as the Gnome Start Here and Home icons.  

Damon





Re: [Cooker] ~/-bash:

2002-08-08 Thread Pascal Terjan

Quel Qun wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> For some reason I end up with a file named -bash: in my home
> folder and it screws up the * expansion:
> 
> $ ls *
> ls: invalid option -- :
> Try `ls --help' for more information.
> 
> It took me some time to find a way to remove this file, so just
> in case it happens to anyone else, just use 
> 
> $ rm -f ./-bash\:
> 

ls -- *
rm -- -bash:





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-08 Thread Ben Reser

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 12:39:47PM -0500, Igor Izyumin wrote:
> [rant]
> Not including the driver in the distribution would mean that users will have 
> to hunt them down, download, compile, and install them.  These things are 
> very annoying to do, especially when your modem is not working.  Mandrake 
> should really be more considerate to their users, and should at least try to 
> work out an acceptable license with the driver's authors.  The driver should 
> DEFINITELY be included if the license permits it.

The only reason users don't have to do this for Windows is because
hardware manufacturers make their hardware work with generic windows
drivers, Microsoft writes a driver for their hardware (probably after
signing confidentiality agreements that would preclude an open source
driver), or the manufacturer actually ships their own driver with the
hardware.  Most of the time even if one of the previous two occurs they
still ship a driver.

Very few hardware manufacturers ship drivers for Linux with their
hardware.  Some of them make them available via their website.  

I guess my point here is that nobody whines when Windows doesn't include
every driver under the sun.  They just use the driver made available
with the hardware.

Yet so many people here complain because Mandrake doesn't ship xyz
driver for their hardware.  Well the hardware manufacturers know that
their drivers won't be integrated if they don't make source available.
They've made a business decision.  They've decided that they don't care
very much about Linux support or that the few people who use Linux won't
mind going looking for their drivers.

So the way I see it is if you don't like the driver situation complain
the the hardware manufacturers.  Ultimately they are the ones
responsible for making the driver available.  They are the ones who have
decided to make the drivers available under terms that are not really
compatible with the Linux communities expectations.

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[Cooker] Resizing ext3 partition

2002-08-08 Thread Paul Dorman

Hi all,

I didn't have enough space to run the upgrade, so I thought I'd just use 
the partitioner to increase the size of my main ext3 partition. I got 
rid of the swap, leaving nothing but empty space "to the right" of the 
partition I want to make bigger, but the disk partitioner would only 
give me the option to shrink the partition. Is this the correct 
procedure? What action would you recommend?

Thanks in advance,
Paul Dorman.

Mdk9 is looking real nice, btw...





Re: [Cooker] rpm question

2002-08-08 Thread Ben Reser

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 08:32:21PM -0400, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> Yes I know, but I want to know how to solve the above stuff.

Well the documentation that you've already been pointed to is what you
want.  Then if want examples look through all the macros in
/usr/lib/rpm/

Keep in mind that you can actually put a macro in a separate file:
%_post_service uses %_add_service_helper which is just a macro for the:
/usr/share/rpm-helper/add-service command...

Basically the answer to your question is to read the documentation.  But
frankly the problem you've presented is already solved so if you don't
want to read the documentation, just use what's already there and don't
worry about it.

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Re: [Cooker] drakxservices

2002-08-08 Thread Pixel

Jure Repinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Pixel wrote:
> > Elliott Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>Would it be posible to alphabetize the services listed in drakxservices?
> > alphabetize? what do you mean?
> 
> Make an option to order/sort them by name.

well, it's already done so, and that's also what i get when testing!




[Cooker] Problem with latest initscripts and /sbin/mii-tool

2002-08-08 Thread Denis Pelletier

Hello,

I'm unable to setup my network card through DHCP. My guess is that it's due to 
the latest initscripts (initscripts-6.87-1mdk, updated yesterday). When 
booting or if I do a "service network restart" I get the following error: "no 
link present. check cable?". But if I type "dhcpcd eth0" in a console I get 
an IP address and everything is ok.

Looking through the file /sbin/ifup and 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions the problem is caused by the 
function check_link_down in network-functions. I don't really understand the 
logic behind the four cases in the if/fi test for the output of the 
/sbin/mii-tool command.

In my case when I type /sbin/mii-tools eth0 I get:
[root@pc184 root]# /sbin/mii-tool eth0
eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link

Denis





Re: [Cooker] drakxservices

2002-08-08 Thread Jure Repinc

Pixel wrote:
> Elliott Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> 
>>Would it be posible to alphabetize the services listed in drakxservices?
> 
> 
> alphabetize? what do you mean?

Make an option to order/sort them by name. I also would like to see this 
as otherwise I have to go thru whole list to find certain service. Maybe 
add column haders and make them clickable so that the names and other 
options would be sortable in ascending and descending order by clicking 
onto column header. Something like in file managers details view.

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Re: [Cooker] drakxservices

2002-08-08 Thread Pixel

Elliott Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Would it be posible to alphabetize the services listed in drakxservices?

alphabetize? what do you mean?





Re: [Cooker] lib(fake)css [Was: php-tclink]

2002-08-08 Thread Stefan Siegel

Neulich schrieb Geoffrey Lee:
 > [...]
 > Anything that carries CSS support we have to compile --without-css, I know
 > this sucks, but at least you always have the source, even though I hate
 > to say that you  must get the source and recompile in order to get that
 > support.

How about adding two packages named "libfakecss" and "libfakecss-devel"
to cooker which contain

  * libfakecss
==
 - /usr/lib/libcss.so.0.1.0(the same functions as libcss, but with
empy bodys: all returning (int)0, void
or NULL)

  * libfakecss-devel

 - /usr/include/css.h
 - /usr/lib/libcss.so ->/usr/lib/libcss.so.0.1.0
 - /usr/lib/libcss.so.0.1.0 -> /usr/lib/libcss.so.0.1.0

You can add "BuildRequire: libfakecss-devel" then which binds against our
dummy libcss. We could even ship this "libfakecss" with the ditribution, as
she does nothing.

If vendors replace "libfakecss" by a package named "libcss" which provides
some other functionaity it is not our fault. So nobody can sue us. Specially
if we mention it in the information (rpm -qi) as in the docs of libfakecss
that it is illegal in US to replace it by a RPM named libcss ...

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[Cooker] drakxservices

2002-08-08 Thread Elliott Martin

Would it be posible to alphabetize the services listed in drakxservices?

-Elliott Martin




Re: [Cooker] Auto logon 9.0b2

2002-08-08 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler

Just out of interest, do non login shells launched from the environment
started by autologin now have all the paths added to them correctly (on
8.2 /usr/games doesn't appear to be there for example)?

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Re: [Cooker] initscripts and eth

2002-08-08 Thread Warly

"J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> New try (of course echo's should be killed for real initscripts):
>
> check_link_down ()
> {
> if [ ! -x /sbin/mii-tool ]; then
> return 0
> fi
>
> if [ -z "$(ip link show $1 up)" ]; then
> echo "Link" $1 "is DOWN, rising..."
> ip link set $1 up
> fi
>
> for (( try=0; try<10; try++ ))
> do
> output=`LC_ALL=C mii-tool $LINK $1 2>&1`
> if echo $output | grep -vqs "no link"; then
> echo "Link" $1 "is UP"
> return 1
> fi
> sleep 1
> done
> echo "Failed to raise" $1 "after 10 seconds"
> return 0
> }
>
> $LINK can be assigned in ifcfg-eth0, for example I have LINK="-F 10baseT-FD".
>
> Do not know if this matters for somebody, but the fact is that with default
> latest initscripts I thought my cablemodem was broken until I (sigh) booted
> windows on the laptop.

I have integrated this in the initscripts-6.87-2mdk, could you test ?

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