Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Control Center cosmetics
Michal Bukovjan wrote: Did you notice that the text under icons in Mandrake Control Center is sometimes misaligned? Sometimes it appears as there are some extra spaces in front of the first line of text descriptions, it appears in most entries, e.g. Software Management/Remove software. Michal Hmm, it is even visible on your own screenshots: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/SoftwareMgr/pages/rpmdrake14.php3 Michal
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 12:48:23PM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: > Again, oddly, and thoughtlessly, in your careless fashion, you omit to > indicate what mirror you are using.This is below the required > reporting standards of this mailing list and does make it difficult to > verify such ungrounded claims. I'm using my own mirror that I maintain which is mirrored off a private connection to carroll.cac.psu.edu. I didn't report which mirror because it isn't accessible to you. But it's not like it really matters. The mirror you are using is certainly several days behind. There *ARE* better mirrors out there. I can't give you advice on which one will be better for you speed and quality wise since I don't use that you have access to. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
RE: [Cooker] permanently mounting mdk 9.0 cd iso images
There is a 'Software Sources Manager' in the start menu. Copy all the rpms to some nice directory, and tell the manager about it. I also had to delete the headings for the cd so it wouldn't ask me for a cd. I've only done one program install since then, but it seems to work. To mount the cd images to copy the files mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop /filenameOfIso /path to mount the iso image, or just copy them from the cd's. -Robert p.s. For some reason when I tried to do a reply to this email it tried to go to you rather than the group for some reason. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cooker-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Brent Hasty Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:51 PM To: List Cookers Subject: [Cooker] permanently mounting mdk 9.0 cd iso images I am interested in permanently mounting mdk 9.0 cd iso images so I could add/remove/update rpms in the iso images, and add them to urpmi sources without copying them into the filesystem. Would I do this in the fstab? and what would the entry look like to enable the above to be presistent through reboots?
[Cooker] permanently mounting mdk 9.0 cd iso images
I am interested in permanently mounting mdk 9.0 cd iso images so I could add/remove/update rpms in the iso images, and add them to urpmi sources without copying them into the filesystem. Would I do this in the fstab? and what would the entry look like to enable the above to be presistent through reboots?
Re: [Cooker] Why ext3fs is a default fs, not ReiserFS?
On Thursday 10 October 2002 04:42, Buchan Milne wrote: > Aleksander Adamowski wrote: > > In the 9.0 installer, during the "Setup filesystem" stage, when you > > create a new partition, by default its filesystem type is tset to ext3fs. > > > > Now I have to tell all the newbie converts that install Linux to > > manually change it to ReiserFS, because it is a more advanced filesystem. > > After all, ext3 is just ext2 with a journal strapped-on. ReiserFS is a > > new vision to filesystem design. And it is faster. > > Besides all the other arguments: > > ext3 has quotas (ok, non-root users can't check them, but they are > enforced), and ACLs (when mounted with the 'acl' option). > > XFS is probably the only other FS I would consider, mainly since it has > a working dump, which also preserves metadata (like acls). > > > If they just used the defaults, they'd probably be disappointed with > > Linux "because it it slower than my Windows". Yes, ext2 and ext3 are > > slower than FAT16/32. > > Corporate users will miss features that have been available since > Windows NT (ACLs) and Windows 2000 finally supports quotas. The only two > filesystems that can compare with NTFS5 are XFS and ext3. > > The OS to beat isn't win9x anymore, and hasn't been for a long time ... > the OSs to beat are win2k Server, winxp pro and the upcoming Windows.net > > > So what do you think about changing the default FS type to Reiser in > > mdk9.1? > > IMHO, when it works, has quotas and acl support, and performs better in > most or all areas then ext3. > > Buchan so how about ext3 vs XFS wich would you prefer? and why? The advantages vs. disadvantages?
[Cooker] ext3 vs XFS wich would you prefer?
so how about ext3 vs XFS wich would you prefer? and why? The advantages vs. disadvantages?
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 20:27, Phil Lavigna wrote: > > I thought that might get a chuckle out of somebody. Thanks, you're the > first : ) Don't suppose I could get you to add "rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep emacs`" to the post install script? :) -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.org
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Sat Oct 12 13:03 +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: > David Walluck wrote: > > >KDE 3.1 is now in Cooker (well, most of it). kdepim and a few others > >haven't been upgraded yet. > > Untrue, as I have shown that none of it is yet in some Cooker mirrors. > > As of the current minute there is no kde3 on rsync://ftp.proxad.net:873, > the mirror troels... uses. > > Which cooker are you talking about? Local cooker mirror, synced with sunet.se whenever I happen to sync up. [levi@tatiana levi]$ cd /cooker/RPMS [levi@tatiana RPMS]$ ls -l `find . -name 'kde*'` | head -n 20 -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 899121 Oct 8 10:46 ./kdeaddons-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 1481393 Oct 10 11:39 ./kdeadmin-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 20208325 Oct 11 08:45 ./kdeartwork-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 66330288 Oct 11 07:05 ./kdebase-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi70356 Oct 11 07:06 ./kdebase-devel-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 897190 Oct 11 07:06 ./kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm -r--r--r--1 levi levi 7272122 Sep 3 04:46 ./kdeedu-3.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 23259849 Oct 11 04:04 ./kdegames-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi95375 Oct 11 04:04 ./kdegames-devel-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 34852372 Oct 10 10:53 ./kdegraphics-3.1-0.beta2.2mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi22562 Oct 10 10:54 ./kdegraphics-devel-3.1-0.beta2.2mdk.i586.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 1235175 Oct 10 10:57 ./kde-i18n-af-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 654538 Oct 10 10:57 ./kde-i18n-az-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 789767 Oct 10 10:58 ./kde-i18n-bg-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 704101 Oct 10 10:58 ./kde-i18n-ca-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 1591057 Oct 10 10:59 ./kde-i18n-cs-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 6443644 Oct 10 10:59 ./kde-i18n-da-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 7888349 Oct 10 10:59 ./kde-i18n-de-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 668537 Oct 10 11:00 ./kde-i18n-el-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-rw-1 levi levi 1815977 Oct 10 11:00 ./kde-i18n-en_GB-3.1-0.bet2.1mdk.noarch.rpm -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Monster Magnet - Heads Explode Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 12:40am up 8 days, 23:05, 11 users, load average: 0.10, 0.20, 0.31
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Sat Oct 12 12:41 +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: > sunet.se is far too busy and slow, despite not being on the official > mirrors list. I don't know what you're talking about sunet.se being slow... I have no problems downloading from there... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Monster Magnet - Heads Explode Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 12:40am up 8 days, 23:05, 11 users, load average: 0.10, 0.20, 0.31
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Friday, October 11, 2002, at 09:03 PM, Ron Stodden wrote: KDE 3.1 is now in Cooker (well, most of it). kdepim and a few others haven't been upgraded yet. Untrue, as I have shown that none of it is yet in some Cooker mirrors. Good grief, Ron. Just because it isn't on your mirror or not on five mirrors doesn't mean it's not there. Get real. What's on the mirrors does not accurately represent what is on Mandrake's internal mirror, we've covered that before. As of the current minute there is no kde3 on rsync://ftp.proxad.net:873, the mirror troels... uses. So? Big deal. Is your troels script the be all and end all of what cooker is? troels is something you've written and while some folks may find it useful (I've never tried it myself), it certainly doesn't mean it's accurate. Your script is only as good as the mirror it uses. And is proxad.net a primary? Before you answer, you better find some solid proof on the Mandrake websites. Which cooker are you talking about? The *real* cooker. And just to put a stop to this ridiculous argument, I'm posting an output of a listing on my own internal copy of the mirror, which I obtain from the same machine the primaries do. [qateam@updates]$ ls -1 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde* -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror 946390 Oct 8 23:45 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kdeaddons-3.0.4-1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror1397306 Oct 10 10:36 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kdeadmin-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror 12424847 Oct 11 07:45 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kdeartwork-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror 13558486 Oct 11 06:04 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kdebase-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror9109813 Sep 3 03:45 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kdeedu-3.0.3-7mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror8296582 Oct 11 03:02 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kdegames-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror4307884 Oct 10 09:48 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kdegraphics-3.1- 0.beta2.2mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror2393101 Oct 10 09:36 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-af-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror2383224 Oct 10 09:36 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-az-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror2262410 Oct 10 09:37 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-bg-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror1985883 Oct 10 09:37 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-ca-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror3208152 Oct 10 09:37 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-cs-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror 10153044 Oct 10 09:38 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-da-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror 12616347 Oct 10 09:38 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-de-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror1338641 Oct 10 09:38 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-el-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror3672466 Oct 10 09:39 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-en_GB-3.1- 0.bet2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror224 Oct 10 09:39 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-eo-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror9939028 Oct 10 09:39 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-es-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror2249828 Oct 10 09:39 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-et-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror2269248 Oct 10 09:40 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-fi-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror 12186627 Oct 10 09:40 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-fr-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror2080412 Oct 10 09:40 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-he-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror3840921 Oct 8 23:37 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-hu-3.0.4-1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror1975713 Oct 10 09:41 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-is-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror5575854 Oct 10 09:41 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-it-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror3481682 Oct 10 09:41 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-ja-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror1196354 Oct 10 09:42 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-ko-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw-r--r--1 mirror mirror2155892 Oct 10 09:42 /mnt/BIG/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/kde-i18n-lt-3.1- 0.beta2.1mdk.src.rpm -rw
Re: [Cooker] Why ext3fs is a default fs, not ReiserFS?
vendredi, le 11 octobre, 2002 18h21, Todd Lyons a écrit: > Dave Fluri wrote on Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:35:03AM -0400 : > > I've never had a lick of trouble with either ext3 or ReiserFS. After a > > couple of years of trouble-free use of ReiserFS, I installed Debian on > > this same machine. I wanted to share a partition between Mandrake and > > Debian. At the time, Debian did not support ReiserFS but it did support > > ext3, so I switched my shared partition to ext3. No worries since. Never > > even so much as a hint of trouble, and I live in a rural area with > > frequent power interruptions and disturbances. > > For reference, what hard drives do you have (Make and Model) and what > type of controller and is it running at udma speeds? > > Blue skies... Todd hda = Quantum Fireball CX20.4A (20 GB) -- this used to have a Reiser partition but now is #/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hda Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 2637 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 511 3863128+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda2 * 512 514 22680 83 Linux /dev/hda3 515 2637 16049880f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 515 1045 4014328+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda6 1046 1576 4014328+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda7 1577 2107 4014328+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda8 2108 2637 4006768+ b Win95 FAT32 hdb = Maxtor 94091U8 (40 GB) -- looks like this #/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hdb Warning: deleting partitions after 16 Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 590 4739143+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hdb2 591 765 1405687+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hdb3 766 4865 32933250 85 Linux extended (type 85) /dev/hdb5 766 842618471 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb6 843 1607 6144831 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb7 1608 1684618471 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb8 1685 1939 2048256 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb9 1940 2194 2048256 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb10 2195 2245409626 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb11 2246 2278265041 82 Linux swap /dev/hdb12 2279 2408 1044193+ 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb13 2409 3172 6136798+ 83 Linux ReiserFS /dev/hdb14 3173 3248610438+ 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb15 3249 3502 2040223+ 83 Linux ext3 /dev/hdb16 3503 3756 2040223+ 83 Linux ext3 fdisk, for some reason, won't show the last three partitions on that disk. The end of that SHOULD indicate /dev/hdb17 392 MB ext3, /dev/hdb18 6.1 GB ext2, /dev/hdb10 1019 MB ext3 and /dev/hdb20 at 1004 MB as ext3. Mandrake 8.1 (2.4.8-26mdk), Debian 2.2r5 and Mandrake 8.2, soon to be replaced with final. The more stable of these two Mandrake distros (for me) is definitely 8.1. 8.1 is as stable as Debian with the 2.2 series kernel and almost as stable as Solaris on Alpha or VMS on Alpha). 8.2 is probably stable enough but there's not enough value above 8.1 to make me want to migrate all my stuff. We'll see about 9.0. The box also has Win98SE to keep Diablo running for my teenage son :-) All partitions are working fine and visible under the appropriate system to the extent that would be expected. That is to say, FAT32 partitions are visible from any OS. ext2 and ext3 visible from all Linuxes. ReiserFS visible only to Mandrake (i.e. not to Debian with stock 2.2.5 kernel.) VIA Apollo IDE controller on the PCI bus, Model VT82C586 Running at UDMA 33., limited by the Quantum disk. Anyway, that's probably more info than you wanted. Dave
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
David Walser wrote: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/SoftwareMgr/pages/rpmdrake9.php3 ha ha very funny I see no difficulty, or humour, or sarcasm. You get there by K; Configuration; Mandrake Control Centre; root logon; Software Management; Remove Software; Yes; All packages, alphabetical. QED? The MCC must not be confused with KCC, also on the K menu. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] IMPORTANT! troels... for Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0 now available. See my web site: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor
On Fri Oct 11 22:11 -0400, Yura Gusev wrote: > Levi Ramsey said: > > >> > (btw RH's i386 compiled kernels won't run on a real i386 ... only > >> > i486 > >> > >> hum IIRC they are made for 386-DX (with a math coprocessor), did yours > >> have one? if you run a 386-SX you don't have one. > > > > pedantic mode on: > > the 386DX did not have a math coprocessor (the 486DX did, though). The > > difference between the SX and DX was that the SX had only a 16-bit data > > bus. > > Yes it had no coprocessor on board but you can buy external one. yeah, misread gc... I read what he wrote as saying that the difference between the 386DX and the 386SX was that the DX had a built-in FPU. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Stone Temple Pilots - Too Cool Queenie Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 10:30pm up 8 days, 20:55, 11 users, load average: 0.52, 0.37, 0.29
Re: [Cooker] 2.4.19-16mdk and swsusp
Tim I'm working on it right now! Hope to finish today or tomorrow. If all goes well, it'll be in testing on MandrakeClub first and then in contribs. (If I'm not mistaken.) are you by any chance incorporating the new 2.4.19-beta14 patch that was posted to sourceforge? in anticipation Jan
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
David Walluck wrote: KDE 3.1 is now in Cooker (well, most of it). kdepim and a few others haven't been upgraded yet. Untrue, as I have shown that none of it is yet in some Cooker mirrors. As of the current minute there is no kde3 on rsync://ftp.proxad.net:873, the mirror troels... uses. Which cooker are you talking about? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] IMPORTANT! troels... for Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0 now available. See my web site: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
Ben Reser wrote: As usual your mirror sucks. Looks like KDE 3.1 for most things to me certainly for the core compoentsA Again, oddly, and thoughtlessly, in your careless fashion, you omit to indicate what mirror you are using.This is below the required reporting standards of this mailing list and does make it difficult to verify such ungrounded claims. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] IMPORTANT! troels... for Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0 now available. See my web site: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] Creasy idea ala LFS
On Fri Oct 11 22:05 -0400, Yura Gusev wrote: > Some people want to have packages optimised for their CPU so why not? > My idea is since Mandrake have SRPS in the boxed version, DrakeX can > rebuild them during the installation stage. Sure it can take a day or so > but some people are creasy ;-) So what do you think? In theory, urpmi could be hacked to allow SRPM compilation and rebuilding... if I ever get around to learning perl, I'd take a stab at it. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Corrosion of Conformity - Bottom Feeder (El Que Come Aba Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 10:40pm up 8 days, 21:05, 10 users, load average: 0.75, 0.67, 0.45
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
On Fri Oct 11 20:38 -0500, Vox wrote: > Uhmam I that dense? I don't see the joke at all :P Look at what package is being removed... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Corrosion of Conformity - Bottom Feeder (El Que Come Aba Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 10:40pm up 8 days, 21:05, 10 users, load average: 0.75, 0.67, 0.45
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
On Fri Oct 11 18:27 -0700, Phil Lavigna wrote: > I thought that might get a chuckle out of somebody. Thanks, you're the > first : ) /me laughs maniacally... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Corrosion of Conformity - Bottom Feeder (El Que Come Aba Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 10:40pm up 8 days, 21:05, 10 users, load average: 0.75, 0.67, 0.45
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
Levi Ramsey wrote: check a primary mirror like uninett.no or sunet.se. You, of all people, know that uninett is a primary mirror (or do you conveniently forget all previous examples of your moaning once you find a new target?). uninett.no and sunet.se certainly used to be Mandrake's primary mirrors, but judging by the talk here, no longer are. People here tell me that mirrors have the discretion to carry or not carry whatever they want. uninett.no is incomplete (does not carry both contrib streams), which rather disqualifies it for primary status. sunet.se is far too busy and slow, despite not being on the official mirrors list. ftp.praxad is the nearest mirror to the Mandrakesoft offices, so I'm guessing (since no one is telling us) that since being "just down the street ", should be the most up-to-date. It carries everything Mandrake. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] IMPORTANT! troels... for Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0 now available. See my web site: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor
Levi Ramsey said: >> > (btw RH's i386 compiled kernels won't run on a real i386 ... only >> > i486 >> >> hum IIRC they are made for 386-DX (with a math coprocessor), did yours >> have one? if you run a 386-SX you don't have one. > > pedantic mode on: > the 386DX did not have a math coprocessor (the 486DX did, though). The > difference between the SX and DX was that the SX had only a 16-bit data > bus. Yes it had no coprocessor on board but you can buy external one.
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:27:30 -0700 Phil Lavigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that might get a chuckle out of somebody. Thanks, you're the > first : ) tsss, tsss... I feel safe: # rpm -q emacs emacs-21.2-12mdk # cat /usr/share/emacs/21.2/etc/future-bug Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2199 21:03:50 -0600 From: Karl Fogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snip] Emacs now configures and builds on every platform that will ever be made. It wasn't easy, but at least that's one problem out of the way for good. If you'd like the patch, just ask. Denix13
[Cooker] Creasy idea ala LFS
Some people want to have packages optimised for their CPU so why not? My idea is since Mandrake have SRPS in the boxed version, DrakeX can rebuild them during the installation stage. Sure it can take a day or so but some people are creasy ;-) So what do you think?
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 02:41:32AM +, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > I agree, maybe my explanation was wrong, strongly pine devellopers want to > keep the source "free", but they deny to redistribute binary. As I remember, > they encourage to make patch, but not want to see binary with patch. It's free as in price. But it's not free as in freedom or libre. Unfortunately, English uses the same word for the two entirely different concepts. At least in this community the term free software should always be used in reference the the freedom/libre meaning not the price meaning. FSF refers to the rest as "freely downloadable" software. Which of course probably doesn't help with the confusion. *sigh* > In fact I do not understand their policy exactly. > Well, finaly, it can't be include in Mandrake tree ! That point is sure :( Well I live near UW and have asked people that work there that know people reponsible for it. The argument comes down to not wanting to support patched versions. They claim they will get support requests for patched versions where the patches are causing problems and will have no way of knowing the patch is even there. Pretty much a similar argument to djb and Theo's feelings about people messing with their software. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: [Cooker] libncurses.so.4
Lonnie Borntreger said: > On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 19:54, Yura Gusev wrote: >> Hello, is it possible to create a compatcurses4 packages so it will be >> possible to install older programs? > > I just created a link called libncurses.so.4 that points to > libncurses.so.5. So far, none of the "older programs" I've used have > complained. YMMV. I dont think it is difficult to create an RPM that will create symbolic link this for the user.
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
LoL, idon't getwhats going on either.. On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 08:38:19PM -0500, Vox wrote: > > Silly Phil Lavigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > becomes daring and writes: > > > Hi, > > > > On Friday 11 October 2002 06:07 pm, David Walser wrote: > >> > > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/SoftwareMgr/pages/rpmdrake9.php3 > >> > >> ha ha very funny > > > > I thought that might get a chuckle out of somebody. Thanks, you're the > > first : ) > > Uhmam I that dense? I don't see the joke at all :P > > Vox > > -- > Pain is the gift of the gods, and I'm the one they chose as their messenger > For info on safety in the BDSM lifestyle http://www.the-vox.com > > Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind > of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ > technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr.
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 09:34:13AM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: > Yes, I am well aware of the contents of the Mandrake Change Log, but > what these log entries are changing appears to be secret commercially > confidential information. changelog is an automated email that happens as stuff is put on Mandrake's primary mirror. Nothing secret or confidential about it. But as usual you're full fo complete nonesense. I'm sure you've seen emails supposedly from me on that list. But I can assure you that I've never sent an email to that list. > I repeat: my cooker (from ftp.proxad in Paris) KDE Control Center > reports 3.0.4 > > The cooker RPMs indicate the truth of thst. Ben, what does your usual > mirror say for ls -l kde*? As usual your mirror sucks. Looks like KDE 3.1 for most things to me certainly for the core compoentsA : [breser@stream RPMS]$ ls -1 kde* kdeaddons-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeadmin-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdeartwork-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-devel-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm kdeedu-3.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-devel-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-3.1-0.beta2.2mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-devel-3.1-0.beta2.2mdk.i586.rpm kde-i18n-af-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-az-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-bg-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-ca-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-cs-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-da-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-de-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-el-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-en_GB-3.1-0.bet2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-eo-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-es-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-et-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-fi-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-fr-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-he-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-hu-3.0.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-is-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-it-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-ja-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-ko-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-lt-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-lv-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-mt-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-nl-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-no-3.0.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-no_NY-3.0.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-pl-3.0.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-pt-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-pt_BR-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-ro-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-ru-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-sk-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-sl-3.0.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-sr-3.0.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-sv-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-ta-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-th-3.0.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-tr-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-uk-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-xh-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-zh_CN.GB2312-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kde-i18n-zh_TW.Big5-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.noarch.rpm kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-devel-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-aktion-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-devel-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-3.1-0.beta1.3mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-devel-3.1-0.beta1.3mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-devel-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-3.1-0.beta2.2mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-devel-3.1-0.beta2.2mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-3.1-0.beta2.2mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-devel-3.1-0.beta2.2mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-devel-3.1-0.beta2.1mdk.i586.rpm kdevelop-2.1.3-6mdk.i586.rpm kdev_htdig-1.1-2mdk.i586.rpm -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
I don't get it... Is it because they're removing emacs? Phil Lavigna wrote: Hi, On Friday 11 October 2002 06:07 pm, David Walser wrote: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/SoftwareMgr/pages/rpmdrake9.php3 ha ha very funny I thought that might get a chuckle out of somebody. Thanks, you're the first : ) See ya' Phil
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
Silly Phil Lavigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes: > Hi, > > On Friday 11 October 2002 06:07 pm, David Walser wrote: >> > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/SoftwareMgr/pages/rpmdrake9.php3 >> >> ha ha very funny > > I thought that might get a chuckle out of somebody. Thanks, you're the > first : ) Uhmam I that dense? I don't see the joke at all :P Vox -- Pain is the gift of the gods, and I'm the one they chose as their messenger For info on safety in the BDSM lifestyle http://www.the-vox.com Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr.
Re: [Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
Hi, On Friday 11 October 2002 06:07 pm, David Walser wrote: > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/SoftwareMgr/pages/rpmdrake9.php3 > > ha ha very funny I thought that might get a chuckle out of somebody. Thanks, you're the first : ) See ya' Phil
[Cooker] Very funny (demos/spotlight)
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/SoftwareMgr/pages/rpmdrake9.php3 ha ha very funny __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Sat Oct 12 9:34 +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: > Ben Reser wrote: > > >So you're saying that Laurent is just putting up 3.0.4 packages labeled > >as 3.1? Yeah right... > > Yes, I am well aware of the contents of the Mandrake Change Log, but > what these log entries are changing appears to be secret commercially > confidential information. > > I repeat: my cooker (from ftp.proxad in Paris) KDE Control Center > reports 3.0.4 check a primary mirror like uninett.no or sunet.se. You, of all people, know that uninett is a primary mirror (or do you conveniently forget all previous examples of your moaning once you find a new target?). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Corrosion of Conformity - Goodbye Windows Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 9:00pm up 8 days, 19:25, 10 users, load average: 0.26, 0.29, 0.28
Re: [Cooker] libncurses.so.4
On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 19:54, Yura Gusev wrote: > Hello, is it possible to create a compatcurses4 packages so it will be > possible to install older programs? I just created a link called libncurses.so.4 that points to libncurses.so.5. So far, none of the "older programs" I've used have complained. YMMV. TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger
[Cooker] libncurses.so.4
Hello, is it possible to create a compatcurses4 packages so it will be possible to install older programs? [root@himling cdrom]# ./install Loading Installer... /mnt/cdrom/lin/twunxins: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux: Installer Xbdev at 32 bit?
On 2002.10.12 Michael Steil wrote: >Hi! > >I patched the boot kernel to support the Xbox, and I can run stage 1 >already, with keyboard support. > >Stage 2 also loads correctly, but the X server doesn't start. I don't >remember the correct error, but it was something like "invalid >settings". > >I strongly suspect that it's the color depth. The installer X server >uses 16 bit framebuffer, right? At the moment, the Xbox framebuffer >only supports 32 bit. Can anyone please tell me what exactly this >installer X server is and with what settings it has been compiled? At >the moment, I see no other way than recompiling it with 32 bit video >support. > An idea: you could get rid of X sever on install step, making installer less resource hungry. Use fbdev in vesa mode, and gtk2-linuxfb for building installer (wouldn't you kill for an antilased installer...). Err, XDrake is C ? -- J.A. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> \ Software is like sex: werewolf.able.es \ It's better when it's free Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Cooker) for i586 Linux 2.4.20-pre10-jam1 (gcc 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-2mdk))
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
Le Vendredi 11 Octobre 2002 23:15, Ben Reser a écrit : > On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:48:49PM +, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > > Well, lot of poeple have answered before and not a lot things to add. > > Pine is free software but with a very strange license, it is possible to > > distribute source, source with patch, patch or binary, but not a patched > > binary. Then it is not enough free to be integrated in Mandrake. > > Oliver, pine is *NOT* free softare. > > From the Free Software Definition on the GNU website: > "The freedom to redistribute copies must include binary or executable > forms of the program, as well as source code, for both modified and > unmodified versions." > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html I agree, maybe my explanation was wrong, strongly pine devellopers want to keep the source "free", but they deny to redistribute binary. As I remember, they encourage to make patch, but not want to see binary with patch. In fact I do not understand their policy exactly. Well, finaly, it can't be include in Mandrake tree ! That point is sure :( -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
[Cooker] Xbox Linux: Installer Xbdev at 32 bit?
Hi! I patched the boot kernel to support the Xbox, and I can run stage 1 already, with keyboard support. Stage 2 also loads correctly, but the X server doesn't start. I don't remember the correct error, but it was something like "invalid settings". I strongly suspect that it's the color depth. The installer X server uses 16 bit framebuffer, right? At the moment, the Xbox framebuffer only supports 32 bit. Can anyone please tell me what exactly this installer X server is and with what settings it has been compiled? At the moment, I see no other way than recompiling it with 32 bit video support. Michael
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
Ron Stodden wrote: Ben Reser wrote: So you're saying that Laurent is just putting up 3.0.4 packages labeled as 3.1? Yeah right... Yes, I am well aware of the contents of the Mandrake Change Log, but what these log entries are changing appears to be secret commercially confidential information. I repeat: my cooker (from ftp.proxad in Paris) KDE Control Center reports 3.0.4 The cooker RPMs indicate the truth of thst. Ben, what does your usual mirror say for ls -l kde*? Your argument is invalid. You claim that just because what someone says is not true for 'some' (or 'your') mirror, it is not true at all. That is simply not the case. Not only could you check other mirrors (even I don't know which mirrors are truly 'primary'), but the CHRPM list clearly lists the current version as 3.1. -- Sincerely, David Walluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> msg79767/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
Ron Stodden wrote: > Ben Reser wrote: > >> So you're saying that Laurent is just putting up 3.0.4 packages labeled >> as 3.1? Yeah right... > > > Yes, I am well aware of the contents of the Mandrake Change Log, but > what these log entries are changing appears to be secret commercially > confidential information. > > I repeat: my cooker (from ftp.proxad in Paris) KDE Control Center > reports 3.0.4 > > The cooker RPMs indicate the truth of thst. Ben, what does your usual > mirror say for ls -l kde*? Your argument is invalid. You claim that just because what someone says is not true for 'some' (or 'your') mirror, it is not true at all. That is simply not the case. (Note, I have a similar problem where the sunet and rpmfind mirrors (at least) of 9.0 still show 'Cooker' in the mandrake-release files, at this point someone says that this isn't true because *some* mirrors have 'Dolphin'. Still, this didn't say anything about the mirrors I had been to, so it evaded the question at hand.) Not only could you check other mirrors (even I don't know which mirrors are truly 'primary'), but the CHRPM list clearly lists the current version as KDE version as 3.1. kdebase-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk looks like the current version. I didn't want to even get involved. The more fuel I (or anyone else) adds to your flames, perhaps the more encouraged you'll be, but just in case you think you're actually doing us a favor, maybe you want to sit and ponder that a little, and above all, learn to accept your mistakes and to admit when you are wrong. At worst it could make you a better person. -- Sincerely, David Walluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> nsmail.tmp Description: PGP signature msg79766/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] HP Kayak XU greyed out after 10 minutes
Larry, this should have been reported on the Mandrake Expert mailing list, not here. 1. Check that you have a good running Mandrake booted to runlevel 3. 2. If so, try running XFdrake in a root terminal window and report on Mandrake Expert. Larry Nguyen wrote: (I send this one to newbie list but haven't got any reply. Hopefully the experts here could give some tips. Thanks.) My co-worker just installed 9.0 on a HP Kayak XU dual Pentium Pro board with one 300Mhz processor. X would crap out after about 10 minutes. Then he has to restart the machine since it gives him a grey screen to look at. No cursor blinking. Trying to switch to different console with no luck. The only choice is to hit the reset button. We booted the machine to failsafe mode then logging in text mode with network. The same thing would happen again. Any tips? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] IMPORTANT! troels... for Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0 now available. See my web site: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
Ron Stodden wrote: Ben Reser wrote: On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:07:40PM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: Considering that KDE 3.1 is the currently committed version in cooker, unless you've tried in in 3.1 you shouldn't be reporting it here. (At the time of your first email it was 3.0.4 but the point is still the same). Wrong, once more. The current cooker has install problem with certain RPMs, but if you persevere beyond that point and look at the KDE control centre you will see it is still KDE 3.0.4 in cooker. KDE 3.1 is now in Cooker (well, most of it). kdepim and a few others haven't been upgraded yet. But, really, no need for an attitude from anyone. -- Sincerely, David Walluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> msg79764/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
Ben Reser wrote: So you're saying that Laurent is just putting up 3.0.4 packages labeled as 3.1? Yeah right... Yes, I am well aware of the contents of the Mandrake Change Log, but what these log entries are changing appears to be secret commercially confidential information. I repeat: my cooker (from ftp.proxad in Paris) KDE Control Center reports 3.0.4 The cooker RPMs indicate the truth of thst. Ben, what does your usual mirror say for ls -l kde*? [ron@small RPMS]$ ls -l kde* -rw-r--r--1 ron ron899121 Oct 9 01:46 kdeaddons-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 1312900 Sep 10 21:16 kdeadmin-3.0.3-10mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 9632519 Oct 9 01:47 kdeartwork-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 16962667 Oct 9 01:47 kdebase-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 64600 Oct 9 01:48 kdebase-devel-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron124272 Oct 9 01:48 kdebase-nsplugins-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 7272122 Sep 3 19:46 kdeedu-3.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 7849447 Sep 10 21:18 kdegames-3.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 76611 Sep 10 21:19 kdegames-devel-3.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 2595341 Sep 20 19:34 kdegraphics-3.0.3-11mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 22413 Sep 20 19:35 kdegraphics-devel-3.0.3-11mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 1027856 Oct 9 02:52 kde-i18n-en_GB-3.0.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 9090917 Oct 9 02:37 kdelibs-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron786444 Oct 9 02:37 kdelibs-devel-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 6757184 Oct 9 02:38 kdemultimedia-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron195721 Oct 9 02:38 kdemultimedia-aktion-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron129332 Oct 9 02:38 kdemultimedia-devel-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 4986174 Oct 9 02:39 kdenetwork-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 57572 Oct 9 02:39 kdenetwork-devel-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 2473428 Oct 9 02:39 kdepim-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 27842 Oct 9 02:40 kdepim-devel-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 2627468 Sep 5 23:00 kdesdk-3.0.3-5mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 20138 Sep 5 23:01 kdesdk-devel-3.0.3-5mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 1192320 Sep 4 01:10 kdetoys-3.0.3-3mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 4449 Sep 4 01:10 kdetoys-devel-3.0.3-3mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 1716078 Oct 9 02:40 kdeutils-3.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 8367 Sep 6 01:16 kdeutils-devel-3.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 3747172 Sep 7 22:30 kdevelop-2.1.3-6mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 ron ron 7120 Mar 14 2002 kdev_htdig-1.1-2mdk.i586.rpm [ron@small RPMS]$ -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] IMPORTANT! troels... for Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0 now available. See my web site: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
[Cooker] binutils
Hi all... There is a newer binutils available that what was just build for cooker. I would not be so update-addict, but there seem to be some serious buxfixes. Current version: binutils-2.12.90.0.15-2mdk Source: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/devel/binutils/test/binutils-2.13.90.0.6.tar.bz2 See reasons here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103373399704425&w=2 TIA -- J.A. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> \ Software is like sex: werewolf.able.es \ It's better when it's free Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Cooker) for i586 Linux 2.4.20-pre10-jam1 (gcc 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-2mdk))
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:48:49PM +, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > Well, lot of poeple have answered before and not a lot things to add. > Pine is free software but with a very strange license, it is possible to > distribute source, source with patch, patch or binary, but not a patched > binary. Then it is not enough free to be integrated in Mandrake. Oliver, pine is *NOT* free softare. >From the Free Software Definition on the GNU website: "The freedom to redistribute copies must include binary or executable forms of the program, as well as source code, for both modified and unmodified versions." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: [Cooker] cdrecord error
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 12:13:26AM +0200, Steffen Barszus wrote: > Hi! > > First of all I hope I'm on the right list. After installing Mdk 9.0 all went > fine and my Teac IDE was installed over ide-scsi. After a try with gcombust > and gtoaster I was not able to burn. For debugging I started the following > burning session with just one simple file. There seems to be something burned > but as you can see in the following logs there is an error after just a few > seconds. If you need some more information or this is totally wrong here > please apologize this mail and maybe help with directing me to the right > place. > > Thanks > > Steffen > > -- > > Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev= "0,1,0" fs=4096k -v > driveropts=burnfree speed=12 -dummy -eject -pad tsize=109760s - > > scsidev: '0,1,0' > scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0 > Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 > Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg > Schilling > TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM > Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' > Driveropts: 'burnfree' > atapi: 1 > Device type: Removable CD-ROM > Version: 0 > Response Format: 1 > Vendor_info: 'TEAC' > Identifikation : 'CD-W512EB ' > Revision : '2.0B' > Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. > Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). > Driver flags : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE > Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R > Drive buf size : 3462144 = 3381 KB > FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB > Track 01: data 214 MB padsize: 30 KB > Total size: 246 MB (24:23.69) = 109777 sectors > Lout start: 246 MB (24:25/52) = 109777 sectors > Current Secsize: 2048 > ATIP info from disk: > Indicated writing power: 5 > Is not unrestricted > Is not erasable > Disk sub type: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-) (4) > ATIP start of lead in: -12369 (97:17/06) > ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74) > Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) > Manuf. index: 69 > Manufacturer: Moser Baer India Limited > Manufacturer is guessed because of the orange forum embargo. > The orange forum likes to get money for recent information. > The information for this media may not be correct. > Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 250072 > Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 12 in dummy TAO mode for single session. > 0 seconds. Operation starts. > Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... > input buffer ready. > BURN-Free is OFF. > Turning BURN-Free on > Starting new track at sector: 0 > cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error > CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 D9 00 00 1F 00 > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) > cmd finished after 0.022s timeout 40s > Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > > write track data: error after 16 bytes > Writing time:9.301s > Fixating... > WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode. > Fixating time: 23.782s > Average write speed 157.7x. > cdrecord: fifo had 71 puts and 8 gets. Wrong list. expert or newbies list is the proper place to get support for 9.0. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: [Cooker] Why ext3fs is a default fs, not ReiserFS?
Dave Fluri wrote on Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:35:03AM -0400 : > > I've never had a lick of trouble with either ext3 or ReiserFS. After a couple > of years of trouble-free use of ReiserFS, I installed Debian on this same > machine. I wanted to share a partition between Mandrake and Debian. At the > time, Debian did not support ReiserFS but it did support ext3, so I switched > my shared partition to ext3. No worries since. Never even so much as a hint > of trouble, and I live in a rural area with frequent power interruptions and > disturbances. For reference, what hard drives do you have (Make and Model) and what type of controller and is it running at udma speeds? Blue skies... Todd -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Mandrake: An amalgam of good ideas from RedHat, Debian, and MandrakeSoft. All in all, IMHO, an unbeatable combination. --Levi Ramsey on Cooker ML Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.19-16mdk msg79759/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] cdrecord error
Hi! First of all I hope I'm on the right list. After installing Mdk 9.0 all went fine and my Teac IDE was installed over ide-scsi. After a try with gcombust and gtoaster I was not able to burn. For debugging I started the following burning session with just one simple file. There seems to be something burned but as you can see in the following logs there is an error after just a few seconds. If you need some more information or this is totally wrong here please apologize this mail and maybe help with directing me to the right place. Thanks Steffen -- Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev= "0,1,0" fs=4096k -v driveropts=burnfree speed=12 -dummy -eject -pad tsize=109760s - scsidev: '0,1,0' scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' Driveropts: 'burnfree' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'TEAC' Identifikation : 'CD-W512EB ' Revision : '2.0B' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 3462144 = 3381 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 214 MB padsize: 30 KB Total size: 246 MB (24:23.69) = 109777 sectors Lout start: 246 MB (24:25/52) = 109777 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-) (4) ATIP start of lead in: -12369 (97:17/06) ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 69 Manufacturer: Moser Baer India Limited Manufacturer is guessed because of the orange forum embargo. The orange forum likes to get money for recent information. The information for this media may not be correct. Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 250072 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 12 in dummy TAO mode for single session. 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Turning BURN-Free on Starting new track at sector: 0 cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 D9 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.022s timeout 40s Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 write track data: error after 16 bytes Writing time:9.301s Fixating... WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode. Fixating time: 23.782s Average write speed 157.7x. cdrecord: fifo had 71 puts and 8 gets.
Re: [Cooker] Why ext3fs is a default fs, not ReiserFS?
Jason Straight wrote on Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 08:19:15PM -0400 : > > For me the problem was that files which weren't even being written to would > get fragged with data from other files ending up mixed in with them. This I make it a point to use notail for reiser. I don't like the tail packing. That doesn't mean it doesn't work, that just means that I'm uncomfortable with it due to problems I have had in the past. When I disable tails, it just seems to work much much better. Blue skies... Todd -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Never take no as an answer from someone who's not authorized to say yes. --Ben Reser on Cooker ML Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.19-16mdk msg79757/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
Le Vendredi 11 Octobre 2002 19:24, Biagio Lucini a écrit : > Guys, don't flame at me for what I am going to say: in the jump from 8.2 > to 9.0 I am missing pine. I am already re-using it, since I have ported > the source rpm from RH 8.0. Just a little tweaking and it will be ready > for general use. The question is: can I upload it to contrib or the fact > that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of > Mandrake? > > Biagio Well, lot of poeple have answered before and not a lot things to add. Pine is free software but with a very strange license, it is possible to distribute source, source with patch, patch or binary, but not a patched binary. Then it is not enough free to be integrated in Mandrake. RedHat have agreement to use it in distro. I asked there some month, I am still waiting a response. Actually it is in plf: [nanardon@virgo plf]$ find -name "pine*" ./9.0/i586/pine-4.44-4plf.i586.rpm ./src/pine-4.44-4plf.src.rpm ./cooker/ppc/pine-4.44-4plf.ppc.rpm ./cooker/i586/pine-4.44-4plf.i586.rpm If you have patch, or fix, send me... I package it because I need it at work. -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
[Cooker] Script for internet ;-)
I made a simple script to restart internet connection. With a litle hacking I think this can be useful :-). I run it as a cron job every 2 minutes. #!/bin/bash temporal='/tmp/internetstat.tmp' if [ -f $temporal ]; then echo "Este script ya está en ejecución." exit 0 fi touch $temporal if ifconfig ppp0 ; then printf "Conexión ppp0 activa.\n" printf "Verificando conectividad.\n" if ping -c 6 www.yahoo.com ; then printf "Hay acceso a Internet.\n" else printf "Desactivando conexión a Internet.\n" /etc/init.d/internet stop killall pppd printf "Activando conexión a Internet.\n" delay 2 /etc/init.d/internet start /etc/init.d/ddclient restart fi else printf "Conexión ppp0 no detectada.\n" printf "Probando conectividad...\n" if ping -c 6 www.yahoo.com ; then printf "Hay internet!!!\n" else printf "Desactivando conexión a Internet.\n" /etc/init.d/internet stop killall pppd printf "Activando conexión a Internet.\n" delay 2 /etc/init.d/internet start /etc/init.d/ddclient restart fi fi rm -f $temporal exit 0
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] siag-3.5.3-1mdk
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:18:12 +0200 (CEST) Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Contrib-RPM] > > --=-=-= > Name: siag Relocations: (not > relocateable) Version : 3.5.3 Vendor: > MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: > Fri Oct 11 12:36:50 2002 39:pw ## /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.68107: line 3: a: command not found error: execution of %postun scriptlet from pw-3.5.2-2mdk failed, exit status 127 ???. rpm -q pw pw-3.5.3-1mdk Charles
[Cooker] KDE tool for S3 savage TV-out tool
Here the project : http://www.bochatay.net/francois/ks3switch.html s3switch tool is also here : http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
On Fri Oct 11 21:23 +0100, Biagio Lucini wrote: > Right. But Debian has as far as I know a non-free tree. Why this solution > can't be implemented in Mandrake? Depending on the case, that's either PLF or MandrakeClub. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Led Zeppelin - You SHook Me Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 4:30pm up 8 days, 14:55, 10 users, load average: 0.41, 0.36, 0.27
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Guy McArthur wrote: > Isn't nano available with Mandrake 9? It's a GPL'd clone of pico. > I have seen it in Texstar's repository, which let me think that it is not in contrib... Biagio
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
On Fri Oct 11 20:24 +0100, Biagio Lucini wrote: > Guys, don't flame at me for what I am going to say: in the jump from 8.2 > to 9.0 I am missing pine. I am already re-using it, since I have ported > the source rpm from RH 8.0. Just a little tweaking and it will be ready > for general use. The question is: can I upload it to contrib or the fact > that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of > Mandrake? Pine RPMs for Mandrake 9 are in PLF. Until UW changes their licensing terms, pine will live in PLF forever. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Led Zeppelin - You SHook Me Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 4:30pm up 8 days, 14:55, 10 users, load average: 0.41, 0.36, 0.27
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
On 11 Oct 2002, Pixel wrote: > Biagio Lucini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The question is: can I upload it to contrib or the fact > > that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of > > Mandrake? > > no you can't. > > The pb is that it's not "free software": not DFSG-compliant, and not > even "Open Source" [*] > > We do accept non-GPLed software (eg: LGPL, BSD...) ;pp > > > [*] squeak is an example of Open Source software not DFSG-compliant > Right. But Debian has as far as I know a non-free tree. Why this solution can't be implemented in Mandrake? Biagio
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 01:15:39PM -0400, Levi Ramsey wrote: > > When do I get to see the deathmatch between you two. Sounds like it would > > be a killer of a time. > > > > :-) > > Only available to Club Members: > > "In this corner, wearing blue trunks is Ben Reser..." Sorry I don't hit idiots. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 20:24:13 +0100 (BST) > Biagio Lucini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > can I upload it to contrib or the fact > > that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of > > Mandrake? > > Also it is already available for mandrake in PLF. > > I did not realise that you can find software like pine in PLF. I thought it was just a site where you can find software that might not completely compliant with the legislation of some country. Thanks for the comunication. It has been fun anyway to learn how to "mandake-ize" an rpm. Biagio
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
Isn't nano available with Mandrake 9? It's a GPL'd clone of pico.
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 02:57:39AM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: > Wrong, once more. The current cooker has install problem with certain > RPMs, but if you persevere beyond that point and look at the KDE control > centre you will see it is still KDE 3.0.4 in cooker. So you're saying that Laurent is just putting up 3.0.4 packages labeled as 3.1? Yeah right... http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-changelog&m=103433808518799&w=2 -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
Biagio Lucini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The question is: can I upload it to contrib or the fact > that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of > Mandrake? no you can't. The pb is that it's not "free software": not DFSG-compliant, and not even "Open Source" [*] We do accept non-GPLed software (eg: LGPL, BSD...) ;pp [*] squeak is an example of Open Source software not DFSG-compliant
[Cooker] kopete-0.4.1-3mdk
Fixed the package. It should work better now. :) For those that don't want to wait it's available on my site: http://mirror.brain.org/linux/breser/i586/cooker/ It'll go up on the club for 9.0 hopefully today if the cronjob there is working right. :P And it's in incoming for lenny. Name: kopete Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.4.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Fri 11 Oct 2002 12:18:06 PM PDT Install date: Fri 11 Oct 2002 12:28:03 PM PDT Build Host: occipital.brain.org Group : Networking/Instant messaging Source RPM: kopete-0.4.1-3mdk.src.rpm Size: 267811 License: GPL Packager: Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://kopete.kde.org/ Summary : Multi-protocol plugin-based instant messenger Description : Kopete is a flexible and extendable multiple protocol instant messaging system designed as a plugin-based system. All protocols are plugins and allow modular installment, configuration, and usage without the main application knowing anything about the plugin being loaded. The goal of Kopete is to provide users with a standard and easy to use interface between all of their instant messaging systems, but at the same time also providing developers with the ease of writing plugins to support a new protocol. The core Kopete development team provides a handful of plugins that most users can use, in addition to templates for new developers to base a plugin off of. * Fri Oct 11 2002 Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.4.1-3mdk - Remove the devel package. The files are needed for proper functioning not just development. - Main package requires lib package now... -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
I feel your pain. I was a pico user, and when I upgraded via fresh install, there was no pine avaliable. I was not aware that it wasn't GPLed, but I'm sure that that was the reason it was removed from the distro. On Friday 11 October 2002 02:24 pm, Biagio Lucini wrote: > Guys, don't flame at me for what I am going to say: in the jump from 8.2 > to 9.0 I am missing pine. I am already re-using it, since I have ported > the source rpm from RH 8.0. Just a little tweaking and it will be ready > for general use. The question is: can I upload it to contrib or the fact > that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of > Mandrake? > > Biagio
Re: [Cooker] Missing pine
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 20:24:13 +0100 (BST) Biagio Lucini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can I upload it to contrib or the fact > that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of > Mandrake? Correct it can not go in contrib. Also it is already available for mandrake in PLF. Charles --- When the blind lead the blind they will both fall over the cliff. -- Chinese proverb -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
[Cooker] Missing pine
Guys, don't flame at me for what I am going to say: in the jump from 8.2 to 9.0 I am missing pine. I am already re-using it, since I have ported the source rpm from RH 8.0. Just a little tweaking and it will be ready for general use. The question is: can I upload it to contrib or the fact that it is not GPL software clashes with the new 100% free policy of Mandrake? Biagio
Re: [Cooker] GDM Sessions
Nathan A. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I wanted to find out how to add a Session to the GDM list. I have > added E17 (from source) and then created a file under > /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions. The file is then chmod 777 E17. 777 for that file? If I'd know that and have a user account on your system I'd have root by now. use 755 > Restarting GDM and everything works. However on a reboot -- the E17 > file is changed (make unexecutible). How do I fix this behavior? Take a very good look at the files in /etc/X11/wmsession.d ;) Btw this is not a support channel. Not even if you run cooker should you ask questions like this. Groetjes, Han. -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
[Cooker] GDM Sessions
Hi, I wanted to find out how to add a Session to the GDM list. I have added E17 (from source) and then created a file under /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions. The file is then chmod 777 E17. Restarting GDM and everything works. However on a reboot -- the E17 file is changed (make unexecutible). How do I fix this behavior? Nasa
[Cooker] Missing koffice-i18n-he
Hello, KDE 3.1 CVS contains the messages and i18n for Hebrew. It's missing in cooker. (there is kde-i18n-he but no koffice-i18n-he) Eyal
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Fri Oct 11 11:52 -0500, Bret Baptist wrote: > On Friday 11 October 2002 11:25 am, Ron Stodden wrote: > > I can only rejoice that you are not a packager of anything I have to > > touch.Now _please_ keep quiet. > > When do I get to see the deathmatch between you two. Sounds like it would be > a killer of a time. > > :-) Only available to Club Members: "In this corner, wearing blue trunks is Ben Reser..." -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: The Cure - Purple Haze.ogg Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 1:10pm up 8 days, 11:35, 10 users, load average: 0.45, 0.38, 0.27
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] cyrus-sasl-1.5.27-6mdk
On Friday 11 October 2002 08:15, Laurent MONTEL wrote: > --=-=-= [...] > > * Sat Oct 12 2002 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.5.27-6mdk > > - Fix libsasl.la libsasl.la requires "-lpam" which is in pam-devel but the package libsasl7-devel (hich contains libsasl.la) does not require pam-devel. This should be fixed. Eyal.
cooker@linux-mandrake.com
On Fri Oct 11 6:16 -0500, Brad Felmey wrote: > This is a tactic used on forums that show threads based upon the > timestamps of the followup posts. Newest first. Following up your own > post with an "up" just moves your original post to the top of the > forum list. > > It appears M. Beranger doesn't know the difference and is > just trying to force others to notice the original post. Imagine for a moment if Mandrake replaced the Cooker list with a phpBB board... /me shudders :o) -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: The Cure - Purple Haze.ogg Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 1:10pm up 8 days, 11:35, 10 users, load average: 0.45, 0.38, 0.27
Re: [Cooker] VIA EPIA 800 C3 processor
On Fri Oct 11 12:19 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > "James Sparenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > (btw RH's i386 compiled kernels won't run on a real i386 ... only i486 > > hum IIRC they are made for 386-DX (with a math coprocessor), did > yours have one? if you run a 386-SX you don't have one. pedantic mode on: the 386DX did not have a math coprocessor (the 486DX did, though). The difference between the SX and DX was that the SX had only a 16-bit data bus. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: The Cure - Purple Haze.ogg Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 1:10pm up 8 days, 11:35, 10 users, load average: 0.45, 0.38, 0.27
[Cooker] HP Kayak XU greyed out after 10 minutes
(I send this one to newbie list but haven't got any reply. Hopefully the experts here could give some tips. Thanks.) My co-worker just installed 9.0 on a HP Kayak XU dual Pentium Pro board with one 300Mhz processor. X would crap out after about 10 minutes. Then he has to restart the machine since it gives him a grey screen to look at. No cursor blinking. Trying to switch to different console with no luck. The only choice is to hit the reset button. We booted the machine to failsafe mode then logging in text mode with network. The same thing would happen again. Any tips? TIA -Larry
Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake
Sitsofe Wheeler wrote: >>1) We're working on a replacement ROM that will completely replace the >>MS system software, so there cannot be a legal problem any more. >>2) Even with MS' hacked system software, I don't see a problem for the >>end user, because he has bought a legitimate copy of the Xbox system >>software and he is free to modify it. >>Although you need a modded Xbox at the moment, there are already quite >>many people that are interested in Xbox Linux already! We have had more >>than 13,000 downloads of our 350 MB ISO within three days! Virtually >>everyone who owns a modded box is interested in Xbox Linux. >> > Supposedly MS have started adding detection for Moded XBoxes on new games > and such games will refuse to run (I have to firm proof of this though). > now why would that not be suprising?
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
Ben Reser wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:07:40PM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: > Considering that KDE 3.1 is the currently committed > version in cooker, unless you've tried in in 3.1 you shouldn't be > reporting it here. (At the time of your first email it was 3.0.4 but > the point is still the same). Wrong, once more. The current cooker has install problem with certain RPMs, but if you persevere beyond that point and look at the KDE control centre you will see it is still KDE 3.0.4 in cooker. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] IMPORTANT! troels... for Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0 now available. See my web site: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
On Friday 11 October 2002 11:25 am, Ron Stodden wrote: > I can only rejoice that you are not a packager of anything I have to > touch.Now _please_ keep quiet. When do I get to see the deathmatch between you two. Sounds like it would be a killer of a time. :-) -- Bret Baptist Systems and Technical Support Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Exposure, Inc. http://www.iexposure.com (612)676-1946 x17 Web Development-Web Marketing-ISP Services -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.
Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake
Le Vendredi 11 Octobre 2002 18:47, Sitsofe Wheeler a écrit : > > 1) We're working on a replacement ROM that will completely replace the > > MS system software, so there cannot be a legal problem any more. > > 2) Even with MS' hacked system software, I don't see a problem for the > > end user, because he has bought a legitimate copy of the Xbox system > > software and he is free to modify it. > > Although you need a modded Xbox at the moment, there are already quite > > many people that are interested in Xbox Linux already! We have had more > > than 13,000 downloads of our 350 MB ISO within three days! Virtually > > everyone who owns a modded box is interested in Xbox Linux. > > Supposedly MS have started adding detection for Moded XBoxes on new games > and such games will refuse to run (I have to firm proof of this though). Don't you think hacking MS' console is a little waste of time, since the time you spend in this work is not spent in improving the distro or other softwares that need such work ? Just my 0.02eurocent
Re: [Cooker] Bugs in aRts and Brahms
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:20:59 +0200 Götz Waschk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you follow the Cooker development you can check if the problem > still appears with the new beta version of arts. Tried it. The problem exists there as well. Charles --- All vacations and holidays create problems, except for one's own -- Murphy's Laws on Work n°34 -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake
> 1) We're working on a replacement ROM that will completely replace the > MS system software, so there cannot be a legal problem any more. > 2) Even with MS' hacked system software, I don't see a problem for the > end user, because he has bought a legitimate copy of the Xbox system > software and he is free to modify it. > Although you need a modded Xbox at the moment, there are already quite > many people that are interested in Xbox Linux already! We have had more > than 13,000 downloads of our 350 MB ISO within three days! Virtually > everyone who owns a modded box is interested in Xbox Linux. Supposedly MS have started adding detection for Moded XBoxes on new games and such games will refuse to run (I have to firm proof of this though). -- Sitsofe | http://sucs.org/~sits/
[Cooker] missing BuildRequires in kdevelop
Hi, I tried to rebuild kdevelop to get rid of its dependency on libkjava.so.1, but the build failed on: grep: /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.la: No such file or directory sed: can't read /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.la: No such file or directory This file is in libart_lgpl2-devel, so this package ought to be added to the BuildRequires. Regards, =o= kk1 =-= kk1
Re: [Cooker] Bugs in aRts and Brahms
Am Freitag, 11. Oktober 2002, 17:49:44 Uhr MET, schrieb Denix 13: > I am still waiting from an answer from authors or aRts and Brahms... > > But aRts is in the main distribution, spreaded in at least > four packages: > -- arts-1.0.3-7mdk > -- libarts-1.0.3-7mdk > -- libarts-devel-1.0.3-7mdk > -- kdemultimedia-3.0.3-7mdk If you follow the Cooker development you can check if the problem still appears with the new beta version of arts. -- Götz Waschk <> master of computer science <> University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key --> Logout Fascism! <--
Re: [Cooker] KDE logoff problems.
Ben Reser wrote: > It's not Laurent's job to > submit bug reports for you. Or to filter bug reports for the KDE > people. Laurent's job is to package things for Mandrake. I wish you would take your strange ideas elsewhere and not bother us any further with them. Of course the packagers support their product. It is a simple matter of their personal pride in what they do, and to gain the most valuable feedback from people they respect as equals. I can only rejoice that you are not a packager of anything I have to touch.Now _please_ keep quiet. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] IMPORTANT! troels... for Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0 now available. See my web site: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] Bugs in aRts and Brahms
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 02:58:26 -0700 Randy wrote: > Denix 13 wrote: >> Hi there, >> It's been a long time since I last saw a post dealing with Brahms. Has >> any of you folks been able to *use* it? > [snip] >> The URL is: >> >> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/denix13/Brahms/brahmsbug.html >> >> Here are the bare facts: > > Your great bug report is refreshing. > > I had to try it. brahms from 9.0 contrib on a fresh install with KDE > and SB Live card *does* immediately crash when importing a MIDI file. > > I hope that either the author or someone at Mandrake can help fix it. > > Thanks, Rand E. Thank *you* for reading. I must admit that I took some pleasure writing it. I am still waiting for an answer from authors or aRts and Brahms... I would also appreciate if someone at MandrakeSoft could have a look at it: the bug in aRts is triggered by using Brahms, which being in Contrib, does not seem to deserve much attention. I am still waiting from an answer from authors or aRts and Brahms... But aRts is in the main distribution, spreaded in at least four packages: -- arts-1.0.3-7mdk -- libarts-1.0.3-7mdk -- libarts-devel-1.0.3-7mdk -- kdemultimedia-3.0.3-7mdk And when artsd fails, all KDE applications that use sound do not work anymore... Denix13 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/denix13/Brahms/brahmsbug.html
[Cooker] linux/videodev.h in 9.0
Hi, does anybody on this list why /usr/include/linux/videodev.h was changed in 9.0? I've looked in the changelog and couldn't find anything. Neither stock 2.4.18 nor the stock 2.4.19 version of linux/videodev.h include linux/fs.h, whereas Mandrake's version of linux/videodev.h does. Why is this bad? Well, mjpegtools won't compile without some hacking, that's one thing. I'm just wondering why this was done and whether it's going to stay this way in 9.1. I couldn't find anything in the changelog for kernel-headers. Best, Narfi. 2.4.18: grep include linux/include/linux/videodev.h #include #include #include #include 2.4.19: grep include linux-2.4.19/include/linux/videodev.h #include #include # include #include #include Mandrake 9.0: grep include /usr/include/linux/videodev.h #include #include #include # include #include #include
Re: [Cooker] hello
Le Vendredi 11 Octobre 2002 16:59, vous avez écrit : > Coucou, > > quoi de neuf ? > > Moi, j'ai failli décrocher une formation SAP financée par les Assedic, > malheureusement ils voulaient des personnes avec une forte expertise dans > le métier du module SAP (logistique en l'occurence). > Je vais faire un bilan de compétences la semaine prochaine pour savoir > vraiment dans quelle voie (temporaire) aller (la compta à prioris) et faire > une formation, l'informatique est vraiment trop touché. > > Mag a trouvé un boulot en intérim d'une semaine (sem proc). > > Sinon, j'ai 2 ou 3 nouveaux films. > > @plouf, > > Flo Hum, je crois que tu t'es planté dans ton adresse. Stef
[Cooker] hello
Coucou, quoi de neuf ? Moi, j'ai failli décrocher une formation SAP financée par les Assedic, malheureusement ils voulaient des personnes avec une forte expertise dans le métier du module SAP (logistique en l'occurence). Je vais faire un bilan de compétences la semaine prochaine pour savoir vraiment dans quelle voie (temporaire) aller (la compta à prioris) et faire une formation, l'informatique est vraiment trop touché. Mag a trouvé un boulot en intérim d'une semaine (sem proc). Sinon, j'ai 2 ou 3 nouveaux films. @plouf, Flo
Re: [Cooker] initscripts /tmp cleanup too agressive?
--- Maksim Orlovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any reason the initscripts remove > /tmp/kde-* on startup? > That directory includes the KSyCoCa cache file, I guess a good question is why is that using /tmp and not $HOME/tmp __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
[Cooker] Re: [Club-Volunteers] New package, RealOne
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, [ISO-8859-1] Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: + http://www.dvalin.sintrax.net/rpms/SRPMS/RealOne-9.0-1mdk.src.rpm + + As Austin pointed out, people might want this one to coexist with + RealPlayer 8, so I named the package RealOne, also it's now more + "mandrakeish" and has a wrapper script that should fix problems and even + includes the codecs:) Ah, so "RealONE"==RealPlayer9! Now I understand. :-) (You must talk slower, I'm blond...) Is it published under the same licence as Real 8? -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- Our housekeeper doesn't do Windows and neither do WE! (L.P. Santuro)
Re: [Cooker] initscripts-6.91-10mdk: system get into infinte loop if usb-interface0 doesn't exists
"Shay Elkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just installed Mandrake 9.0, and didn't configure USB, as it locks this > machine (IBM ThinkPad 1161-93G) if ACPI isn't used[1]. I recompiled the > kernel, and rebooted, to find out the init scripts get into infinite loop. > > It appears as if /etc/init.d/rc.sysinit calls /etc/init.d/usb before > mounting root as rw. Thus, when /etc/init.d/usb tried to update > modules.conf with the found usb-interface record, it won't successed, and > enter an infinite loop. > > Steps to reproduce: remove the line 'alias usb-interface0' from > modules.conf, and reboot. > > Workaround: boot with `nousb', and then manually start the usb service. > The problem will be solved on the next reboot. > > Shay. > > [1] You might like to add it into your hardware database: Several IBM > ThinkPad's lockup when USB is initalized, if ACPI isn't used. I know for > sure this happens with models 1161-93G and 1161-83G (Labeld iSeries 1200), > and was told this happens for ThinkPads with similar chipsets: namely, ALi > chipset+Tridet CyberBlade video. just boot with nousb option or use the new initscripts package 11mdk available in the unsupported/9.0 directory on the mirrors. -- Fred - May the source be with you
Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake
Michael Steil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 12:29 Europe/Berlin, Warly wrote: >>> How is the boot kernel stored on the Installation CD when booting from >>> SYSLINUX? Our default.xbe bootloader requires the kernel and the >>> initrd to be files in the UDF file system, it would be cool if they >>> didn't have to be duplicated. >> >> It is OK then as they are in isolinux/alt0/all.rdz and >> isolinux/alt0/vmlinux >> for isolinux. > > Is the .config file for the isolinux/alt0/vmlinux kernel available? Is > it different from the standard kernel configuration? I have to apply > some patches; it shouldn't be necessary to modify the initrd. > > I'm sorry if I'm asking newbie questions, just tell me where to go and > I'll be happy. sorry for the previous mail, I get it wrong, look in the kernel-sources packages for the kernel-BOOT .config. -- Warly
[Cooker] initscripts /tmp cleanup too agressive?
Is there any reason the initscripts remove /tmp/kde-* on startup? That directory includes the KSyCoCa cache file, which means it'll have to be rebuilt the first time KDE starts for a user after a reboot - which on on/off desktop machines can be *every time*, slowing down startup time. (The location for the file can be overriden by setting KDESYCOCA envar, BTW; although if an app starts with a wrong value things may start getting slightly weird) Thanks, -Maks Orlovich
Re: [Cooker] Re: openssh-3.4p1-5mdk
On Thursday, October 10, 2002, at 11:56 PM, Han Boetes wrote:
[...]
>> Hmm..., that sounds just plain childish to me. My godness...
>
> The explanation isn't really good.
Well, I was short on time... =) But your explanation is right on...
that's exactly my feelings as well, and that is exactly the point.
Some authors feel very strongly this way, and I don't disagree with
them (for example djb). Some, like djb, make their license reflect
this and it seems restrictive; others, like Theo et. all, keep their
license free (BSD), but still prefer things the same way. I try to
work with them like that as much as possible, regardless of the license.
I also agree with you about openssh being a critical app, one I prefer
not to fsck around with too much. Too much damage can be caused by
carelessly adding features.
That being said, the authors haven't indicated much about this
particular add-on. I don't think it would be a problem to include it,
I just don't want to do it. If it makes it into openssh, fine. I'm
not 100% sure of the reasoning behind it, and it doesn't look all that
useful yet... it seems to me that this is just a "patch" to make their
commercial program work better... I've not seen an open-source app to
take advantage of it yet. And until that happens, it's usefulness is
limited (in my opinion).
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Re: [Cooker] locked out of the system.
This is it I think. http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/soft/initscripts/rc.d/rc.diff?r1=1.38&r2=1.39&sortby=date Groetjes, Han. -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
[Cooker] re: i686 cooker repositery
>DrakX can be modified to choose the right architecture >package and use it instead (it could even work currently as urpmi code is >used and urpmi manages this). Cool if drakx'll can determine the best arch package to install. Wich package could be built with i686 arch : kernel, glibc, Xfree,... ? Thanks, Florent
Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake
Originally, we had an additional partitioning module in the kernel for Xbox partitioning. Now our code makes it possible to use both partitioning schemes in parallel: The PC partition table is read first, and the Xbox partitions (which may of course overlap) will be added after the PC partitions, in the /dev/hda? numbering. This way, the user can access the Xbox partitions, and can partition the free space on the hard disk (the space above 8 GB; we can use replacement hard disks; the Xbox kernel only uses 8 GB) using a PC partition table. If we can avoid overlapping partition, this can be fine (else user may do dangerous things). If the partition are not complicated (?), we can add the native support directly so that the first 8GB will naturally be reserved instead of hacking the current partition scheme used for PC. The problem is that the Xbox has no partition table, the partitioning is implicit. It looks like this on all boxes: 1: 0.5 - 750.5 MB (temp 1) 2: 750.5 - 1500.5 MB (temp 2) 3: 1500.5 - 2250.5 MB (temp 3) 4: 2250.5 - 2750.5 MB (boot) 5: 2750.5 - 8 GB (data) We cannot change this partitioning, the Xbox system software always uses this table. Of course we could extend the partition table: We could add an additional partition table at 8 GB with the partitioning information for the space above 8 GB. Because it was quite easy, we used the PC partitioning system in our current versions; the first sector on the Xbox HD is unused anyway. The user just had to avoid partitioning any of the space up to 8 GB. We're not certain yet how to handle this. Our Xbox Linux Mandrake installer marks the space up to 8 GB as partition 4, and the user is free to create partitions 1 to 3 and 5+ in the unallocated space. If the installer (and command line fdisk) were extended to mark the space up to 8 GB as unavailable if it's an Xbox drive, this would be the most beautiful method, I think. We don't have Xbox here so you will have to provide information on how to proceed, maybe Micro$oft will give us a Xbox for that ... I'll have a look at the installer and add Xbox support myself; if there are any problems, I'll ask in the mailing list, okay? Or directly to me and pixel as you wish. François.
Re: [Cooker] freedos floppy disk to upgrade BIOS / BIOS utility in hardware menu
On Friday 11 October 2002 12:50, Florent BERANGER wrote: > Hello, > > BIOS need a DOS to be flashed. > Is it possible to integrate the possibility to make a freedos (GPL) floppy > to flash the BIOS, as SuSe ? > If a tool exist, it must be in main distro. > > Thanks IIRC Dosemu can do that with FreeDOS but they seem to be removed from the distribution. But do you really want to use a non-supported dos when getting the real stuff is that easy and your BIOS is so important
Re: [Cooker] locked out of the system.
Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So I rebooted single user and then su - han and: > > 14:53Han| /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap:17: perminsion denied: /proc/567/fd/0 > 14:54Han| that file is chmod 644 > 14:57Han| check > > Yup. A chmod 744 /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap fixed it. > > Somebody forgot to use rpmlint? ;) hum.. no such file in *our* packages bash-2.05b$ urpmf /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap bash-2.05b$
Re: [Cooker] locked out of the system.
Thierry Vignaud ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So I rebooted single user and then su - han and: > > > > 14:53Han| /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap:17: perminsion denied: >/proc/567/fd/0 > > 14:54Han| that file is chmod 644 > > 14:57Han| check > > > > Yup. A chmod 744 /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap fixed it. > > > > Somebody forgot to use rpmlint? ;) > > > hum.. no such file in *our* packages > > $ urpmf /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap [~]% ls -la /etc/init.d lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Oct 11 09:56 /etc/init.d -> rc.d/init.d/ ahem :) After the reboot the perms of /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap are reset to 644 so it must be something else: And yes: [/usr/share/msec]% grep mandrake_consmap * perm.1:/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_consmap root.root 644 perm.2:/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_consmap root.root 644 perm.3:/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_consmap root.root 644 perm.4:/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_consmap root.adm 644 perm.5:/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_consmap root.adm 644 But the latest update to the package was three weeks ago so it must be something else... But what? Groetjes, Han. -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake
On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 12:29 Europe/Berlin, Warly wrote: >> How is the boot kernel stored on the Installation CD when booting from >> SYSLINUX? Our default.xbe bootloader requires the kernel and the >> initrd to be files in the UDF file system, it would be cool if they >> didn't have to be duplicated. > > It is OK then as they are in isolinux/alt0/all.rdz and > isolinux/alt0/vmlinux > for isolinux. Is the .config file for the isolinux/alt0/vmlinux kernel available? Is it different from the standard kernel configuration? I have to apply some patches; it shouldn't be necessary to modify the initrd. I'm sorry if I'm asking newbie questions, just tell me where to go and I'll be happy. Michael
Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake
On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 12:31 Europe/Berlin, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > I'd like to know if there are real chances that we could boot off > an Installation CD or an hard drive containing Linux -without- a > modded chip, in the future? 1) If MS cryptographically signs our bootloader. 2) If we find a bug in the Xbox system software. Well, perhaps. > If not, I think we have to think if it's better to add the > additional required files (default.xbe) and code (kernel patches, > bootloader installer etc) with possibly bugs affecting the > "normal" PC users, if it's only usable by people with a modded > Xbox (many people would "fear" to mod their, plus there are > potential legal issues I suppose?). Our kernel patches are likely to be included into our standard kernel and will not interfere with PCs. About the legal problem: 1) We're working on a replacement ROM that will completely replace the MS system software, so there cannot be a legal problem any more. 2) Even with MS' hacked system software, I don't see a problem for the end user, because he has bought a legitimate copy of the Xbox system software and he is free to modify it. Although you need a modded Xbox at the moment, there are already quite many people that are interested in Xbox Linux already! We have had more than 13,000 downloads of our 350 MB ISO within three days! Virtually everyone who owns a modded box is interested in Xbox Linux. Michael
