Re: [Cooker] Preventing Mozilla to hang with RPM-files

2002-11-07 Thread mika . laitio
It would be really great it if Mandrake could do that. Current behaviour 
which freezes whole desktop is definitely not an preferred option.
Good (maybe more trickier) would try to check from the RPM-files header 
whether the data is in Red Hat RPM or the Real Player RPM-format.

Mika





Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07.11.2002 19:02
Please respond to cooker

 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 
Subject:Re: [Cooker] Preventing Mozilla to hang with RPM-files


On Thu Nov 07  7:09 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> It does manage .rpm files, RealPlayer Plugin Modules. 
> I'd be interested to know whether RealNetworks or
> RedHat started using .rpm first, but they've both been
> using it for many years.  Isn't MIME supposed to be
> able to deal with this kind of problem though?

If there was some way to get the MIME type.  ISTR that there's no
provision for MIME in FTP and many HTTP servers identify *.rpm as Real
Player by default.  Mdk could change the default Mozilla mapping to be
Red Hat RPM, though, in their patches, though, I suppose.

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Re: [Cooker] Open APM failed

2002-11-07 Thread Pierrot Rey
Le ven 08/11/2002 à 00:55, Quel Qun a écrit :
> --- Original Message ---
> From: Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Open APM failed
> 
> <...>
> >
> >I have checking with the kernel command line pci=3Dnoacpi and
> it's good
> >now!!! Wat's the difference betwen APM and ACPI?
> >
> 
> The FAQ on Intel's site gives some answers:
> 
> http://www.intel.com/technology/iapc/acpi/faq.htm
> 
> =-=
> kk1

Thanks 
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[Cooker] Extensions missing from the latest XFree

2002-11-07 Thread Han Boetes
Hi,


Two more problems from the front:

  Xlib:  extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0"

Which is entensively used by fluxbox's dockapps


  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".

And this one is used to get Quake3 in full-screenmode.



//Han
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[Cooker] -lXft2 not symlinked to -lXft

2002-11-07 Thread Han Boetes
Hi,

By some stupid mistake on my side I just had to completely reinstall. It
does give  me  the  opportunity  to  look  at  cooker  in  a  whole  new
perspective. I guess more people should blunder more often ;)


The latest fluxbox cvs-snaphots can be build with  Xft  but  the  latest
addition of libXft2-2.0-1mdk &  libXft2-devel-2.0-1mdk  Uses  -lXft2.  I
checked with someone on  another  recent  distro  and  his  ``xft-config
--libs'' returns:

  -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXft -lfreetype -L/usr/local/lib -lfontconfig \
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXrender

While mine returns:

  -lXft2 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXrender


He does have 2.0.0 as well for the people who explitly want to have that
confirmed. I don't know if that's good or bad.



//Han




[Cooker] gst-launch-ext fix

2002-11-07 Thread Tim Lee
Since the last gstreamer updates, gst-launch-ext hasn't worked. I narrowed 
it down to a matter of variable scope in the 'extension()' function. Here's 
a patch for the impatient (like me ;)

--- gst-launch-ext.orig	2002-11-06 05:46:40.0 -0500
+++ gst-launch-ext	2002-11-08 00:48:39.0 -0500
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
  # .tar.gz extensions do we ?
  if ($path =~ /\./)
  {
-my $ext = $path;
+$ext = $path;
$ext =~ s/^.*\.//;
  }
  else { $ext = ""; }


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Re: [Cooker] drakxtools-newt-1.1.11-1mdk error in printerdrake

2002-11-07 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:56:39 -0500
Salane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> printerdrake
> syntax error at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer.pm line 110, near ")

urpmi --auto-select removed drakconf/hardrake in order to install the lastest 
drakxtools (both have requires = specific version/release of drakxtools).
So at the moment neither mcc or any drake apps will work. 

There will probably be a new drakconf/harddrake uploaded tonight/tomorrow.
Give them a chance they have to sleep sometime.


Charles

 
No amount of genius can overcome a preoccupation with detail.
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Re: [Cooker] drakx autoinstall remote display

2002-11-07 Thread David Eastcott
On Thursday 07 November 2002 04:10 pm, Andrew Shewmaker` wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have text mode autoinstalls working over anonymous ftp, but I can't
> seem to get the remote X display working.
>
> I followed the directions at
> http://members.shaw.ca/mandrake/drakx/9.0/HTML/section6.html#Install_Consol
>e_Choices
>

It is working OK for me, but then I do NFS installs.

[...]

Dave




[Cooker] drakxtools-newt-1.1.11-1mdk error in printerdrake

2002-11-07 Thread Salane
 rpm -q drakxtools-newt
drakxtools-newt-1.1.11-1mdk

printerdrake
syntax error at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer.pm line 110, near ")
chomp"
syntax error at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer.pm line 2150, near "open "
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printerdrake.pm line 12.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printerdrake.pm line 
12.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/printerdrake line 26.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/printerdrake line 26.





Re: [Cooker] can't rebuild qt3 after update to XFT2...

2002-11-07 Thread Brian Smith
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 03:30 pm, laurent Montel wrote:

> You patch is very complicated.
> I create a patch this morning :
> --- qt-copy-3.1_20021104/configure--2002-11-06 08:55:39.0 +0100
> +++ qt-copy-3.1_20021104/configure  2002-11-06 08:55:41.0 +0100
> @@ -254,7 +254,7 @@ CFG_MNG=auto
>  CFG_LIBMNG=qt
>  CFG_XRENDER=auto
>  CFG_FREETYPE=auto
> -CFG_FONTCONFIG=no
> +CFG_FONTCONFIG=yes
>  CFG_QWS_FREETYPE=yes
>  CFG_SQL_AVAILABLE=
>  CFG_SQL_AUTODETECTED=
> and it links with fontconfig.
>

Okay, I have just gotten libqt3-3.1.0-0.beta2.4mdk from my friendly Cooker 
mirror, which I assume is using your patch, and libqt-mt.so is linked to 
fontconfig but it isn't linked to libXft2.

[brian@tweeg brian]$ ldd /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so
libmng.so.1 => /usr/lib/libmng.so.1 (0x40709000)
libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40751000)
libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x40772000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x40798000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 (0x407a7000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x407bb000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x407e)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x407f6000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4080)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40817000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4081a000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4082a000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x408f5000)
libXft.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1 (0x408fb000)<--  with my 
patch, it linked to /usr/lib/libXft.so.2
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x4090b000)
libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x4095b000)
libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x40987000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/i686/libm.so.6 (0x40a4b000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x40a6e000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x40a76000)
liblcms.so.1 => /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 (0x40b96000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40bb6000)
libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x40c0f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)

I'm gonna have to reinstall my version - the font qualily is so much better 
with Xft2. The only downside I've found is that Xft2 doesn't deal with bitmap 
fonts, it replaces them with scalable fonts.





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Leon Brooks
On Friday 08 November 2002 06:32 am, J. Greenlees wrote:
> make an install option for windows like use, but never make windows like
> changes to tool sets.

Agree. The pretty GUI brainless stuff should always be layered over the stuff 
with sharp edges; the sharp tools should always be there, but safely sheathed 
in simple GUI so that Joe Manual-What-Manual doesn't cut himself on them.

> after all when they blow it up then we can make a
> bit of money fixing their system and with the tools available with linux
> that should only be a few minutes

The fact that it is almost always possible to repair stuff - or even find out 
what went wrong - is a majjor advance over Windows.

> unless the user got root access and destroyed everything.

That's pronounced `Lindows' isn't it? (-:

Cheers; Leon





Re: [Cooker] Problem with postfix and Berkeley DB

2002-11-07 Thread Todd Lyons
Pascal Terjan wrote on Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 12:44:17AM +0100 :
> Since last update, newaliases, postmap, ... fail
> 
> [root@hp pascal]# newaliases
> postalias: fatal: incorrect version of Berkeley DB: compiled against 
> 3.3.11, linked against 2.7.7

It was doing this on my system too, so I just rebuild the postfix SRPM
real quick, removed the old postfix, and installed the newly compiled
one.

> [root@hp pascal]# rpm -q postfix
> postfix-1.1.11-5mdk
> It's quite strange because :
> ldd /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix | grep db
>libdb-3.3.so => /lib/libdb-3.3.so (0x402b8000)

Yeah, I'll agree that's weird.

Blue skies...   Todd
-- 
  Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc.   http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because 
  that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn
   Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.19-18mdkenterprise



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[Cooker] Cisco PCI Wireless Aironet Card in Harddrake and drakconf problem

2002-11-07 Thread Nick Brown
My Cisco PCI Wireless Aironet Card is listed in Harddrake as;


Vendor: AIRONET Wireless Communications
Bus: PCI
Bus identification: 14b9:350
Location on the bus: 0:d:0
Description: 
Module: airo
Media class: NETWORK_OTHER


I cannot configure its wireless properties from lan configuration tool
in drakconf. I have to manually enter them into ifcfg-ethX.
I believe its Media Class above is wrong. Is there a NETWORK_WIRELESS
class?
If so I believe it needs be changed for this device. Will this then
allow me to configure its wireless properties (SSID, KEY etc) from
drakconf?

thanks,
Nick






[Cooker] Frozen Bubble and Lock Screen

2002-11-07 Thread John & Rebecca
Hi guys.

I have a little problem with being able to lock my screen after playing Frozen 
Bubble full screen. I can't do it any more.

It seems to only be with frozen bubble.

I'm running a stock Mdk9.0 and KDE, with all security updates via Mdk Update.

Bug?

thanks,
john




Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 9.0: no line-in

2002-11-07 Thread John & Rebecca
ok.

here goes.

All categories are unlocked, and for each category, both channels (left & 
right) are either on or off (ie: not left on/right off). The same is true for 
record source (the red dots).

I'm also not including volume levels.

also, it'd be nice to have an EASY way to turn off line in. If my TV card is 
plugged in, I ALWAYS get TV sound. even when I stop watching TV. (I suppose 
if everything is setup correctly, then Kmix would work for this, no?)

Let me know if you need anything else.

On Tuesday 05 November 2002 03:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok, but you forgot to tell me what you had to change to get line-in
> working:)

Format:
Category
Speakers on/off
Source on/off

Here what I have now:
Master
On
N/A

MasterMono
On
N/A

Head...
On
N/A

Head..LFE1
Off
N/A

Head..1
On
N/A

Head..Center1
On
N/A

Tone
On
N/A

Bass
On
N/A

Treble
On
N/A

3D Control Center
On
N/A

3D Control Depth
On
N/A

3D Control Switch
On
N/A

PCM
On
N/A

Surround Digital
On
Off

Surround Digital (?)
On
N/A

Center
On
N/A

LFE
On
N/A

Wave
On
Off

Wave Center
On
N/A

Wave LFE
On
N/A

Wave Surround
On
N/A

Music
On
Off

Music
On
N/A

Line
On (Line in works if the speakears are on or off)
On (This must be on for line in to work.)

Line Live Dr..
On
Off

Line Live Dr
On
N/A

Line Live Dr..1
On
Off

CD
On
Off

Mic
On
Off

Mic Boost (+20dB)
On
N/A

Video
On
Off

Phone
On
Off

IEC958
Off
N/A

IEC958 Coaxial
On
Off

IEC958 Coaxial
On
N/A

IEC958 Optical
On
Off

IEC958 Optical
On
N/A

IEC958 Optical Raw
Off
N/A

IEC958 TTL
On
On

IEC958 TTL
On
N/A

PC Speaker
Off
N/A

Aux
On
Off

Capture
On
N/A

"Mix" thru "EMU..PCM Send Routing"
On
N/A

External Amplifier Power Down
Off
N/A

SB Live Analog Output Jack
Off
N/A







Re: [Cooker] Open APM failed

2002-11-07 Thread Quel Qun

--- Original Message ---
From: Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Open APM failed

<...>
>
>I have checking with the kernel command line pci=3Dnoacpi and
it's good
>now!!! Wat's the difference betwen APM and ACPI?
>

The FAQ on Intel's site gives some answers:

http://www.intel.com/technology/iapc/acpi/faq.htm

=-=
kk1





Re: [Cooker]

2002-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 22:17, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> Todd Lyons wrote:
> 
> >
> > Lots of people have had one problem or another with the 3123 nvidia
> > drivers.  Can you try going back to the 2960 and see if they do the same
> > thing?
> 
> 
> FYI 2960 did scary things here (like random memory corruption) with 8.2. 
> 2313 was my "last known good version" (from time to time it just 
> restarted X while opening zapping). 3123 behaves more or less like 2313 
> (restarts X while opening zapping but no Oopses until now).

Hey, I get that too! And I thought it was just some quirk with my
setup...(the restarting X Zapping thing, that is).
-- 
adamw





[Cooker] Problem with postfix and Berkeley DB

2002-11-07 Thread Pascal Terjan
Since last update, newaliases, postmap, ... fail

[root@hp pascal]# newaliases
postalias: fatal: incorrect version of Berkeley DB: compiled against 
3.3.11, linked against 2.7.7
[root@hp pascal]# rpm -q postfix
postfix-1.1.11-5mdk

It's quite strange because :
ldd /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix | grep db
   libdb-3.3.so => /lib/libdb-3.3.so (0x402b8000)





[Cooker] drakx autoinstall remote display

2002-11-07 Thread Andrew Shewmaker`
Hello,

I have text mode autoinstalls working over anonymous ftp, but I can't 
seem to get the remote X display working.

I followed the directions at 
http://members.shaw.ca/mandrake/drakx/9.0/HTML/section6.html#Install_Console_Choices

I started a new X display (:1) on a machine called acrab and I used the command 
'xhost +'.  I've added 'display=acrab:1' to syslinux.cfg and "'interactive' => 'gtk'" 
to auto_inst.cfg but I get errors:

GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to: No such user 0.
Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess
  serial 115 error_code 10 request_code 143 minor_code 1
Gdk-ERROR **: BadShmSeg
  serial 116 error_code 155 request_code 143 minor_code 5
install exited abnormally :-(


Can anyone help me?

Thanks,

Andrew

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Re: [Cooker] Open APM failed

2002-11-07 Thread Pierrot Rey
Le jeu 07/11/2002 à 20:47, Quel Qun a écrit :
> --- Original Message ---
> From: Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Cooker] 
> 
> >I have probleme with kernel 2.4.19-18 and the Nvidia driver.My
> system
> >crash, it's hard crash:black screen, no magic keys.
> >
> >I check the X log and i have:
> >
> >(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
> >
> >PS:the x server work very well with kernel 2.4.19-16 and the
> same nvidia
> >driver!!
> >
> >Has anybody build nvidia on this kernel??
> >
> >
> Yes, few people have had the same problem. APM is being replaced
> by ACPI. Use pci=noacpi or even acpi=off in the kernel command line.
> 
> PS: Please take the time to put a subject to your message next
> time, it makes the threads easier to follow.
> 
> =-=
> kk1

I have checking with the kernel command line pci=noacpi and it's good
now!!! Wat's the difference betwen APM and ACPI?

Tanks a lot for your help.
-- 
Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





[Cooker] bad packages

2002-11-07 Thread Vox
Preparing...##
Installation failed:
package libgdk-pixbuf2-devel-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
package bonobo-conf-0.15-3mdk is already installed
package libgdk-pixbuf2-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
package libgdk-pixbuf-gnomecanvas1-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
package libgdk-pixbuf-xlib2-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
package gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
package libbonobo-conf0-0.15-3mdk is already installed

  The versions of the packages all differ from the version they report
  to rpm (the packagename version is newer).

/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libgdk-pixbuf2-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libgdk-pixbuf2-devel-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/bonobo-conf-0.16-1mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libgdk-pixbuf-gnomecanvas1-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libgdk-pixbuf-xlib2-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libbonobo-conf0-0.16-1mdk.i586.rpm

  Vox

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of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_
technology than everyone else.   -- Donald B. Marti Jr.



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Re: [Cooker]

2002-11-07 Thread Pierrot Rey
Le jeu 07/11/2002 à 23:03, Todd Lyons a écrit :
> Pierrot Rey wrote on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:02:35PM +0100 :
> > I have probleme with kernel 2.4.19-18 and the Nvidia driver.My system
> > crash, it's hard crash:black screen, no magic keys.
> > PS:the x server work very well with kernel 2.4.19-16 and the same nvidia
> > driver!!
> 
> Lots of people have had one problem or another with the 3123 nvidia
> drivers.  Can you try going back to the 2960 and see if they do the same
> thing?
> 
> Blue skies... Todd

I have checking but it the same problem to the 2960 and 3123.


-- 
Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Re: [Cooker] Open APM failed

2002-11-07 Thread Pierrot Rey
Le jeu 07/11/2002 à 20:47, Quel Qun a écrit :
> --- Original Message ---
> From: Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Cooker] 
> 
> >I have probleme with kernel 2.4.19-18 and the Nvidia driver.My
> system
> >crash, it's hard crash:black screen, no magic keys.
> >
> >I check the X log and i have:
> >
> >(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
> >
> >PS:the x server work very well with kernel 2.4.19-16 and the
> same nvidia
> >driver!!
> >
> >Has anybody build nvidia on this kernel??
> >
> >
> Yes, few people have had the same problem. APM is being replaced
> by ACPI. Use pci=noacpi or even acpi=off in the kernel command line.
> 
> PS: Please take the time to put a subject to your message next
> time, it makes the threads easier to follow.
> 
> =-=
> kk1

Tanks and sorry for the subject.
-- 
Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Wim Horst wrote:


Op donderdag 7 november 2002 17:39, schreef Michael Holt:
 

I disagree :-)
You're here - I'm here - we all got here somehow.  I DON'T want to be
presented with a 'wizard' interface everywhere I go.  Sometimes it's OK
for people to have to learn a few things before jumping in the driver's
seat - no?  I think mandrake has really made some great strides towards
ease of use in the past couple of years - I just tried slackware 8.1 on my
laptop last week... that lasted about two days.

I used to build custom computers for people; I would recommend that new
users get a book called 'windows 98 for dummies' - I couldn't get ANYONE
to read that book - but about once a month or so, they would pay me to
come over and reinstall their system because they blew it up.  That was
WINDOWS 98  I think that time and energy would be better spent writing
good howtos and docs so that the people who aren't going to read them
anyway can pay those of who will!

Mike
   

I am still trying to convince my kids to use linux. They dont buy it. They 
learned how to use windows and do not want to put much effort in learning how 
to work with linux. To fool them, programs must resemble those of windows and 
should not need ( much ) configuration. So the problem is, because they are 
used to windows linux has to be even more user friendly ( and faster ).
Nevertheless i agree with you mandrake has don a lot and things are getting 
better rapidly.




 

you need to raise your children in a proper way; don't want to use 
linux? Yell at them, if that does'nt work, hit them with a stick;)

I just can't wait to get my own children to manipu.. ehhr.. raise :o)

--
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Delonic Technology Group AS
Sysadmin, developer, greasemonkey
www.delonic.no - +47 41681061





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread J. Greenlees
unfortunately, Wim is right in the attitude for a lot of windows users.
most that have switched to linux already are the one's that do read 
manuals / docs / howtos ecetera.
a basic simple install should be designed for the moron level to keep 
the non reading section from filling lists with useless posts. a few 
apps, configured so only effort is plugging in user name.
with options to install more when / if they need it ( as currently exists )

the majority of people running ms have no clue as to what is really 
happening, and are lost with the amount of data available for linux when 
booting and when an app crashes.
I started with Mdk 6.1 and not connected to the net at all, so had to 
read and figure out problems myself ( which I prefer to do anyway )
but I watch as people I know flip when they see my "noquiet" text mode 
boot on both my linux boxes. they can't get over the amount of 
information being presented and realize how much like morons ms has 
always treated their users.

and with the nt family of ms os ms has stolen all console from the user.
no booting to "dos" only the gui.
and absolutely no real tools to fix problems short of wiping hd and 
re-installing.
while a lot of ms users like that, anyone that has to fix computers 
after the ignorant user has blown it up doesn't like it. ~g~
make an install option for windows like use, but never make windows like 
changes to tool sets. after all when they blow it up then we can make a 
bit of money fixing their system and with the tools available with linux 
that should only be a few minutes unless the user got root access and 
destroyed everything.

Michael Holt wrote:
I disagree :-)
You're here - I'm here - we all got here somehow.  I DON'T want to be 
presented with a 'wizard' interface everywhere I go.  Sometimes it's OK 
for people to have to learn a few things before jumping in the driver's 
seat - no?  I think mandrake has really made some great strides towards 
ease of use in the past couple of years - I just tried slackware 8.1 on my 
laptop last week... that lasted about two days.  

I used to build custom computers for people; I would recommend that new 
users get a book called 'windows 98 for dummies' - I couldn't get ANYONE 
to read that book - but about once a month or so, they would pay me to 
come over and reinstall their system because they blew it up.  That was 
WINDOWS 98  I think that time and energy would be better spent writing 
good howtos and docs so that the people who aren't going to read them 
anyway can pay those of who will!

Mike

On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Wim Horst wrote:


Most windows users and future linux users dont read manuals. This is just an 
example. A lot of programs need a finishing touch. Preferences should not 
have to be set ( cdburning programs), features complete ( msn messenger 
programs ). Desktop users want to work with there pc and when it is linux 
they want it to work as easy as windows.











Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Wim Horst
Op donderdag 7 november 2002 17:39, schreef Michael Holt:
> I disagree :-)
> You're here - I'm here - we all got here somehow.  I DON'T want to be
> presented with a 'wizard' interface everywhere I go.  Sometimes it's OK
> for people to have to learn a few things before jumping in the driver's
> seat - no?  I think mandrake has really made some great strides towards
> ease of use in the past couple of years - I just tried slackware 8.1 on my
> laptop last week... that lasted about two days.
>
> I used to build custom computers for people; I would recommend that new
> users get a book called 'windows 98 for dummies' - I couldn't get ANYONE
> to read that book - but about once a month or so, they would pay me to
> come over and reinstall their system because they blew it up.  That was
> WINDOWS 98  I think that time and energy would be better spent writing
> good howtos and docs so that the people who aren't going to read them
> anyway can pay those of who will!
>
> Mike
I am still trying to convince my kids to use linux. They dont buy it. They 
learned how to use windows and do not want to put much effort in learning how 
to work with linux. To fool them, programs must resemble those of windows and 
should not need ( much ) configuration. So the problem is, because they are 
used to windows linux has to be even more user friendly ( and faster ).
Nevertheless i agree with you mandrake has don a lot and things are getting 
better rapidly.





RE: [Cooker] FW: [lwlan-user] wlan-ng Warning for Mandrake Users: module conflicts

2002-11-07 Thread Mcleod, Ian
I can't find any script to get the 'wlan' device up though - only eth1.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Williamson [mailto:aw280@;cam.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Cooker] FW: [lwlan-user] wlan-ng Warning for Mandrake
Users: module conflicts


On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 02:10, Mcleod, Ian wrote:
> FYI on follow up..
> 
> I look forward to trying this when I get home..  I installed the
> prism2-utils package from Mandrake and I still can't start the eth1 device
> (operation not supported when I try to start kismet_monitor) and lots of
> errors regarding wrong ESSID, etc when I 'ifup eth1' although I could find
> nothing in any configuration file..

linux-wlan-ng drivers use wlan0, wlan1 etc devices. not the eth0, eth1
etc devices.
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker]

2002-11-07 Thread Luca Olivetti
Todd Lyons wrote:



Lots of people have had one problem or another with the 3123 nvidia
drivers.  Can you try going back to the 2960 and see if they do the same
thing?



FYI 2960 did scary things here (like random memory corruption) with 8.2. 
2313 was my "last known good version" (from time to time it just 
restarted X while opening zapping). 3123 behaves more or less like 2313 
(restarts X while opening zapping but no Oopses until now).

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Re: [Cooker] chkrootkit reports false bindshell infecton on port 1008

2002-11-07 Thread Salane
On Thursday 07 November 2002 07:27 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
> On Thursday 07 November 2002 08:10 pm, Salane wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 November 2002 12:39 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
> > > On Thursday 07 November 2002 11:57 am, Salane wrote:
> > > > is this a problem with chkrootkit or with nfs
> > >
> > > Do an lsattr in (/usr)/(s)bin and check for funny attributes, just in
> > > case. One of the features of many rootkits is subverting tools like
> > > netstat. In fact, I discovered one the other day because netstat -tanp
> > > failed (the cracked version was too old to support -p).
> > >
> > > Cheers; Leon
> >
> > cd /
> > [root@sking /]# lsattr
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./1
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./bin
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./boot
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./dev
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./dhcpcd
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./etc
> >  ./home
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./initrd
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./lib
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./mnt
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./opt
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./proc
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./root
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./sbin
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./tmp
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./usr
> > lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./var
>
> OK, so you're not using ext[23]fs except for /home? (-:
>
> Cheers; Leon

Nope home is reiserfs




Re: [Cooker]

2002-11-07 Thread Todd Lyons
Pierrot Rey wrote on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:02:35PM +0100 :
> I have probleme with kernel 2.4.19-18 and the Nvidia driver.My system
> crash, it's hard crash:black screen, no magic keys.
> PS:the x server work very well with kernel 2.4.19-16 and the same nvidia
> driver!!

Lots of people have had one problem or another with the 3123 nvidia
drivers.  Can you try going back to the 2960 and see if they do the same
thing?

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [Cooker] sshd fails to generate DSA host key

2002-11-07 Thread Vincent Danen

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 05:32 PM, Brent Hasty wrote:


[root@h2o cups]# service sshd restart
Stopping sshd:  [  OK 
 ]
Generating SSH2 DSA host key:

It has been sitting hear for about an hour. I have tried re-installing
related packages.  I am unable login remotly to this server using ssh 
in
gnome telnit.

Anyone else experiencing problems like this...
When restarting this service using drakconf, this is what I get back

Stopping sshd:[FAILED](because it was not running)
Generating SSH2 DSA host key: /sbin/service: line 148: 6249 Terminated
$debug

How can I regenerate the DSA key so SSH2 will work properly?


I just tried it here by moving my existing DSA keys and restarting the 
server... it generated the keys just fine.

Can you try doing this on the commandline instead of via drakconf?

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Re: [Cooker] can't rebuild qt3 after update to XFT2...

2002-11-07 Thread Todd Lyons
Brian Smith wrote on Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 04:05:11PM -0500 :
> 
> 1) Copy the attached qt-3.1.0-fix-xft.patch.bz2 file to 
> /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES
> 2) cd to /usr/src/RPM/SPECS and apply the attached 

Best to build as a regular user.  Read section 3 in:
  http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/howtos/mdk-rpm/

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [Cooker] Preventing Mozilla to hang with RPM-files

2002-11-07 Thread Ben Reser
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:37:45PM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> Complain to Real Networks.. Their Real plugin is broken because it says it
> manages .rpm files.. There is nothing we can do about that..

No complain to the site hosting the RPM's that is sending the wrong mime
type.  Mozilla and the real player plugin work per the spec.  The
problem is lots of webservers serving up RPMs are sending the wrong
mime-type (can we say rpmfind.net).

-- 
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http://ben.reser.org

"If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard
enough." - Jim Nichols




Re: [Cooker] scp gives error about not being able to find libcrypto.so.9.6

2002-11-07 Thread Quel Qun

--- Original Message ---
From: Kim Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] scp gives error about not being able to
find libcrypto.so.9.6

>[snip]
>> This is the cooker list, not the mdk9.0 list. No one can help
you here
>> since we: 1. don't know the version of your packages,
>> 2. surely have different version installed on our machines.
>> Please subscribe to another Mandrake list where you can find some
>> support (newbie or expert).
>
>but I am running cooker! I just use the openssh packages from
mdk9.0.
># rpm -qa|grep ssh
>openssh-server-3.4p1-4mdk
>openssh-askpass-gnome-3.4p1-4mdk
>openssh-3.4p1-4mdk
>openssh-clients-3.4p1-4mdk
>

Ok, let's not start a war here, but the cooker FAQ states:

"If you find a bug, make sure that you are up to date with Cooker
for the relevant packages"

scp works fine on my machines:

$ rpm -q openssh openssl
openssh-3.5p1-1mdk
openssl-0.9.6g-1mdk

=-=
kk1





[Cooker] SEGFAULT: gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm

2002-11-07 Thread Mark Swanson
Hello,

I upgraded my rpmdrake to 2.0-27 and it segfaults in what appears to be the 
pixbuf png loader. Have toothbrush, will debug...

libgdk-pixbuf2-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
libpng3-1.2.4-3mdk.i586.rpm
gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
libgdk-pixbuf-gnomecanvas1-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
libgdk-pixbuf-xlib2-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm

I straced rpmdrake and found this:
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0)   = 6
...
3530  open("/usr/share/rpmdrake/icons/title-tile.png", O_RDONLY) = 7
...
3530  open("/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 8
3530  read(8, 
"\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0Y\0\0004\0\0\0\230N\2\0\0\0\0\0004\0 
\0\3\0(\0\26\0\25\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\205E\2\0\205"..., 1024) = 
1024
3530  fstat64(8, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=152072, ...}) = 0
3530  mmap2(NULL, 155132, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 8, 0) = 0x40b1b000
3530  mprotect(0x40b4, 3580, PROT_NONE) = 0
3530  mmap2(0x40b4, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 8, 
0x24) = 0x40b4
3530  close(8)  = 0
3530  munmap(0x40ab6000, 55778) = 0
3530  _llseek(7, 0, [0], SEEK_SET)  = 0
3530  brk(0x8b0c000)= 0x8b0c000
3530  brk(0x8b15000)= 0x8b15000
3530  read(7, 
"\211PNG\r\n\32\n\0\0\0\rIHDR\0\0\0\1\0\0\0009\10\6\0\0\0\367\330\0\0\0\0\0\0\0}\10", 12) = 12
3530  read(6, 
"\1\20\351\1\0\0\0\0:\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\4\0\3\0\0\0\0\240\355}\10\0\0\0\0", 32) 
= 32
3530  write(6, "\17\0\2\0:\0\0\0", 8)   = 8
3530  read(6, 
"\1\252\352\1\271\0\0\0:\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\271\0\0\0\20\230|\10\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0", 
32) = 32
3530  read(6, "\276\0 
\1\2\0\200\0\1\0\240\0\2\0\0\1\10\0\0\1\23\0\0\1\2\0\300\0\2\0\340\0\2\0 
\1\225\0 \1\231\0 \1\235\0 \1\237\0 \1\241\0 \1\244\0 \1\246\0 \1\2\0@"..., 
740) = 740
3530  --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
3530  sigreturn()   = ? (mask now [RTMIN])

Endlessly segfaults...


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Re: [Cooker] Open APM failed

2002-11-07 Thread Quel Qun

--- Original Message ---
From: Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Cooker] 

>I have probleme with kernel 2.4.19-18 and the Nvidia driver.My
system
>crash, it's hard crash:black screen, no magic keys.
>
>I check the X log and i have:
>
>(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
>
>PS:the x server work very well with kernel 2.4.19-16 and the
same nvidia
>driver!!
>
>Has anybody build nvidia on this kernel??
>
>
Yes, few people have had the same problem. APM is being replaced
by ACPI. Use pci=noacpi or even acpi=off in the kernel command line.

PS: Please take the time to put a subject to your message next
time, it makes the threads easier to follow.

=-=
kk1





Re: [Cooker] scp gives error about not being able to find libcrypto.so.9.6

2002-11-07 Thread Kim Schulz
[snip]
> This is the cooker list, not the mdk9.0 list. No one can help you here
> since we: 1. don't know the version of your packages,
> 2. surely have different version installed on our machines.
> Please subscribe to another Mandrake list where you can find some
> support (newbie or expert).

but I am running cooker! I just use the openssh packages from mdk9.0.
# rpm -qa|grep ssh
openssh-server-3.4p1-4mdk
openssh-askpass-gnome-3.4p1-4mdk
openssh-3.4p1-4mdk
openssh-clients-3.4p1-4mdk





[Cooker] smp kernel instabilities

2002-11-07 Thread Brent Hasty
I am having some seriously unwelcom smp kernel instabilities using MDK 9.0, 
using a msi k7d-m motherboard and dual athlon mp processors.  I have a hp 
office jet g85 printer/fax/scanner, that will crash the kernel hard shortly 
after xdm loads.  Though it works in uni-processor mode fine.  Running in smp 
mode crunching seti or using a java based distributed processing program, I 
wake to find my machine hard locked.  When I say hard locked means no telnet, 
no ctrl alt del, no ctrl alt backspace, no ctrl alt f1-f6, not even the L-alt 
sysrequest r-s-e-i-u-b, is working to unlock the kernel.  I am having to 
resort to the reset button, K.  Good thing for jerneled filesystems 
(ext3, and ReiserFS) (and my intel raid controller with 256mb cashe).

I have almost never seen where the L-alt sysrequest key sequence would not 
shut the machine down semi gracefully.

Have there been any major kernel revisions that might help to alliviate these 
problems?






Re: [Cooker] evolution RC1 breaks IMAP

2002-11-07 Thread Quel Qun

--- Original Message ---
From: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Cooker List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Cooker] evolution RC1 breaks IMAP

>On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 12:29, Quel Qun wrote:
>> Error while 'Scanning folders in IMAP server my.imap.server"':
>> Unexpected response from IMAP server: A1 BAD LSUB command
>> received in invalid state.
>> 
>> reporting it at Ximian too.
>
>The evolution code that deals with IMAP namespaces has changed
>dramatically from 1.0 to 1.1+.  The best thing would be to cd to
>~/evolution/mail/imap and then delete everything under there to
force
>evolution to recreate it's local cache correctly.
>
>-> exit evolution
>-> killev
>-> cd ~/evolution/mail/imap
>-> rm -rf *
>-> restart evolution
>
>You may have to resubscribe to folders if you use a namespace.
>
That worked, thanks a lot. I only had to subscribe back to INBOX,
all the subfolders subscriptions were kept.
New Evolution looks nice, access to the various settings seems
clearer.
Thanks again,


=-=
kk1





Re: [Cooker] Preventing Mozilla to hang with RPM-files

2002-11-07 Thread David Walser
--- Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu Nov 07  7:09 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> > It does manage .rpm files, RealPlayer Plugin
> Modules. 
> > I'd be interested to know whether RealNetworks or
> > RedHat started using .rpm first, but they've both
> been
> > using it for many years.  Isn't MIME supposed to
> be
> > able to deal with this kind of problem though?
> 
> If there was some way to get the MIME type.  ISTR
> that there's no
> provision for MIME in FTP and many HTTP servers

Yeah FTP sucks.

> identify *.rpm as Real
> Player by default.  Mdk could change the default

True.  I wonder if people would think we were evil if
our default Apache configuration didn't do that.

> Mozilla mapping to be
> Red Hat RPM, though, in their patches, though, I
> suppose.

Yeah, maybe.  My point was, I don't think it's
RealPlayer that's broken; thanks for the details.

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Re: [Cooker] Simple Mandrake Terminal Server question

2002-11-07 Thread Brent Hasty
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 09:37 pm, Leon Brooks wrote:
> On Thursday 07 November 2002 11:01 am, Stew Benedict wrote:
> > You should be able to drop [Cooker] drakTermServ into 9.0 with no
> > issues. It's really the only thing that changed to support the thin
> > client approach.
>
> Thanks++
>
> Cheers; Leon
yea thanks Stew, your awsome ;+)




Re: [Cooker] evolution RC1 breaks IMAP

2002-11-07 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 12:29, Quel Qun wrote:
> Error while 'Scanning folders in IMAP server my.imap.server"':
> Unexpected response from IMAP server: A1 BAD LSUB command
> received in invalid state.
> 
> reporting it at Ximian too.

The evolution code that deals with IMAP namespaces has changed
dramatically from 1.0 to 1.1+.  The best thing would be to cd to
~/evolution/mail/imap and then delete everything under there to force
evolution to recreate it's local cache correctly.

-> exit evolution
-> killev
-> cd ~/evolution/mail/imap
-> rm -rf *
-> restart evolution

You may have to resubscribe to folders if you use a namespace.

TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger






[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.0-24mdk

2002-11-07 Thread Yura Gusev
François Pons said:
> --=-=-=
> Name: urpmi
> Version : 4.0
> Summary : User mode rpm install
> Description :
> urpmi takes care of dependencies between rpms, using a pool
> (or pools) of rpms.
> You can compare rpm vs. urpmi  with  insmod vs. modprobe
> --=-=-=



I think we Mandrake removed user-mode rpm install long time ago (only root
can install rpms), so can you update summary?





[Cooker] evolution RC1 breaks IMAP

2002-11-07 Thread Quel Qun
Hi,

Just reporting it in case anyone uses IMAP. It does not work with
the new evolution-1.1.90-1mdk:

Error while 'Scanning folders in IMAP server my.imap.server"':
Unexpected response from IMAP server: A1 BAD LSUB command
received in invalid state.

reporting it at Ximian too.
=o=
kk1
=-=
kk1





[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mkinitrd-3.1.6-33mdk

2002-11-07 Thread Stefan van der Eijk


- requires s/fileutils/coreutils/



Q: When coreutils is required by basesystem, why put a Requires for 
coreutils in any other package?

Stefan



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Re: [Cooker] update script

2002-11-07 Thread skidley
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 06:09:22PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> "skidley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm trying to come up with a simple script to update my system(cooker)
> > as a cron job. I've tried a few variations without success. I assumed a
> > couple of options for urpmi would work, for eg. 
> > urpmi.update -a && urpmi --auto --force --auto-select 
> > I assumed from reading the manpage that --auto would skip the dependencies
> > question and it does but i also thought --force would automatically
> > answer yes to any questions. one in particular a question about bad
> > signatures which i always get, and --force doesn't make it just say yes and
> > continue. I have also tried echo y |urpmi --force --auto --auto-select
> > without success. I wonder if anybody has a nice working update script?
> 
>   /etc/cron.daily/urpmi:
> ===
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm
> 
> for d in /usr/lib/{kde,kde3,qt3/lib}; do
>   [[ -d $d ]] && find $d -type f -name "*.so*" | xargs strip -sp
> done
> 
> strip -sp 
>/usr/lib/{kicker,kde*,konsole,kwin,lib{DCOP,kabc,kate,konq,mcop,kde*,arts*,khtml,kio}}.so.*
> 
> #export RPM_BUILD_ROOT=/opt
> #/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-shared
> #/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-comment-note
> #/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip
> 
> rpm --rebuilddb
> ===
> 
Thanks for the script but why the strip, what does that actually do? 
-- 
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pudding if you don't eat your meat!" --Pink Floyd

Chad Y. (aka skidley)




[Cooker]

2002-11-07 Thread Pierrot Rey
I have probleme with kernel 2.4.19-18 and the Nvidia driver.My system
crash, it's hard crash:black screen, no magic keys.

I check the X log and i have:

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)

PS:the x server work very well with kernel 2.4.19-16 and the same nvidia
driver!!

Has anybody build nvidia on this kernel??

-- 
Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Michael Holt
I disagree :-)
You're here - I'm here - we all got here somehow.  I DON'T want to be 
presented with a 'wizard' interface everywhere I go.  Sometimes it's OK 
for people to have to learn a few things before jumping in the driver's 
seat - no?  I think mandrake has really made some great strides towards 
ease of use in the past couple of years - I just tried slackware 8.1 on my 
laptop last week... that lasted about two days.  

I used to build custom computers for people; I would recommend that new 
users get a book called 'windows 98 for dummies' - I couldn't get ANYONE 
to read that book - but about once a month or so, they would pay me to 
come over and reinstall their system because they blew it up.  That was 
WINDOWS 98  I think that time and energy would be better spent writing 
good howtos and docs so that the people who aren't going to read them 
anyway can pay those of who will!

Mike

On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Wim Horst wrote:

> Most windows users and future linux users dont read manuals. This is just an 
> example. A lot of programs need a finishing touch. Preferences should not 
> have to be set ( cdburning programs), features complete ( msn messenger 
> programs ). Desktop users want to work with there pc and when it is linux 
> they want it to work as easy as windows.
> 
> 

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Re: [Cooker] update script

2002-11-07 Thread Thierry Vignaud
"skidley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm trying to come up with a simple script to update my system(cooker)
> as a cron job. I've tried a few variations without success. I assumed a
> couple of options for urpmi would work, for eg. 
> urpmi.update -a && urpmi --auto --force --auto-select 
> I assumed from reading the manpage that --auto would skip the dependencies
> question and it does but i also thought --force would automatically
> answer yes to any questions. one in particular a question about bad
> signatures which i always get, and --force doesn't make it just say yes and
> continue. I have also tried echo y |urpmi --force --auto --auto-select
> without success. I wonder if anybody has a nice working update script?

  /etc/cron.daily/urpmi:
===
#!/bin/sh

urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm

for d in /usr/lib/{kde,kde3,qt3/lib}; do
[[ -d $d ]] && find $d -type f -name "*.so*" | xargs strip -sp
done

strip -sp 
/usr/lib/{kicker,kde*,konsole,kwin,lib{DCOP,kabc,kate,konq,mcop,kde*,arts*,khtml,kio}}.so.*

#export RPM_BUILD_ROOT=/opt
#/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-shared
#/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-comment-note
#/usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip

rpm --rebuilddb
===





Re: [Cooker] Preventing Mozilla to hang with RPM-files

2002-11-07 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Thu Nov 07  7:09 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> It does manage .rpm files, RealPlayer Plugin Modules. 
> I'd be interested to know whether RealNetworks or
> RedHat started using .rpm first, but they've both been
> using it for many years.  Isn't MIME supposed to be
> able to deal with this kind of problem though?

If there was some way to get the MIME type.  ISTR that there's no
provision for MIME in FTP and many HTTP servers identify *.rpm as Real
Player by default.  Mdk could change the default Mozilla mapping to be
Red Hat RPM, though, in their patches, though, I suppose.

-- 
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[Cooker] use drakconf without a mouse

2002-11-07 Thread Florent BERANGER
  Hello, 
 
is there a way to use Drakconf without a mouse (if user do a mistake with 
mouse config/pb with the mouse/PC with no mouse) ? 
If no, it could be a greet feature in future. 
 
Thanks, 
 
  Florent 





[Cooker] update script

2002-11-07 Thread skidley
I'm trying to come up with a simple script to update my system(cooker)
as a cron job. I've tried a few variations without success. I assumed a
couple of options for urpmi would work, for eg. 
urpmi.update -a && urpmi --auto --force --auto-select 
I assumed from reading the manpage that --auto would skip the dependencies
question and it does but i also thought --force would automatically
answer yes to any questions. one in particular a question about bad
signatures which i always get, and --force doesn't make it just say yes and
continue. I have also tried echo y |urpmi --force --auto --auto-select
without success. I wonder if anybody has a nice working update script?
-- 
"If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any
pudding if you don't eat your meat!" --Pink Floyd

Chad Y. (aka skidley)




[Cooker] Re: poor harddrake infos

2002-11-07 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Florent BERANGER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Harddrake just display detect_devices routines output. 
> I think it must explode each category : 
> - Hard drives : UDMA ?
> - printer : ink level,...   
> - graphic card : Hardware 3D acceleration / card memory ? (infos could be 
> collected by Xconfig)  
> - NIC : Up ?, MAC & IP adress, gateway ?  
> - mouse : with roll ?   
> - cpu : display all cpu flags (it's just a bug)
> - Keyboard, main memory categories ?  


look at 1.1.11-1mdk, it has been enhanced





[Cooker] kde-i18n for kde 3.1 rc2

2002-11-07 Thread Pascal Cavy

 Is there a kde-i18n-fr-3.1-0.rc2 somewhere ?

-- 
Pascal
Mayyy thhee souuurcee beee with yaaa, Geeekk !




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Wim Horst
Op donderdag 7 november 2002 14:11, schreef Per Øyvind Karlsen:
> Wim Horst wrote:
> >Op donderdag 7 november 2002 09:16, schreef Thomas Backlund:
> >>From: "Wim Horst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson:
> >>>On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote:
> Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks:
> >We have most of the technology, we can do it...
> >
> >http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233
> >
> >Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem
> >>
> >>things
> >>
> >(e.g. work desktop):
> >
> >What would you like carried across into Linux?
> 
> easy installation of programs
> Lets take gstreamer
> In this list i read something about it. Tryed to install it. Toke
> >>
> >>me 2
> >>
> hours because off all the dependencys. Some libs i did not find. I
> >>
> >>am not
> >>
> a total fool installing this kind of programs. The averidge
> >>
> >>pc/windows
> >>
> user just wants to try and install a program.
> >>>
> >>>Next time, try this:
> >>>
> >>>urpmi gstreamer
> >>>
> >>>Works for me...
> >>>Not for me installing from ftp contrib site without hdlist.
> >>
> >>So use synthesis.hdlist2.cz in the contrib RPMS directory...
> >>
> >>Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>*** Tämä viesti on VirusTarkistettu INRITEL OY:n postipalvelimella!! ***
> >
> >ai, ai, ai, urpmi asks for a hdlist, so i searched for something called
> >hdlist. Is this realy as stupid as it sounds?
>
> uhhr, how about reading the doc's?
> if you're going to be involved in cooker you *have* to know how to use
> urpmi and read some doc's every now and then

Most windows users and future linux users dont read manuals. This is just an 
example. A lot of programs need a finishing touch. Preferences should not 
have to be set ( cdburning programs), features complete ( msn messenger 
programs ). Desktop users want to work with there pc and when it is linux 
they want it to work as easy as windows.





Re: [Cooker] Another gtk+2.0.7-3mdk problem

2002-11-07 Thread Michal Bukovjan
Michal Bukovjan wrote:

This time metacity. It crashes sometimes. The crashes started to occur 
after the aforementioned packaged update.

No error messages in .xsession-errors or system logs.

The crash occurs every 10 minutes, depending on user activity (with 
respect to new window popups), *always* when popping up a new window 
(this is not application specific). (Another formulation: It happens 
only when an application opens a new window, but not every time an 
application opens a window).

My home dir is filling up with core files :-(

Metacity then restarts, the flashings are quite annoying, though.

I am running Metacity with Gorilla theme.

Michal


The problem still persists and is quite annoying, even after update to 
-3mdk (gtk+2.0 and gdk-pixbuf-2.0)

Michal




Re: [Cooker] drakwizard pngfile

2002-11-07 Thread Arnaud Desmons
Daouda LO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hello,
> > When using drakconf/drakwizard, and selecting "dns client" in server
> > configuration, I get this error:
> > gtkcreate_png: missing png file
> > /home/logarno/soft/wizard_perl/test/client_wizard/images/DNS.png at
> > /usr/lib/libDrakX/ugtk.pm line 801.
> > It seems to try to load the wrong png file and stop there.
> > 
> > Using here:
> > drakxtools-1.1.10-1mdk
> > drakwizard-0.2-14mdk
> > 
> > I spoke someone on irc who used 9.0 with updates, and got the error:
> > Can't locate
> > /home/logarno/soft/wizard_perl/test/client_wizard/scripts/Clientconf.pm in
> > @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
> > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
> > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1
> > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
> > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
> > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at
> > /usr/sbin/drakwizard line 113.
> 
> quick fix:
> replace /home/logarno/soft/wizard_perl/test by /usr/share/wizards
> in file /usr/share/wizards/client_wizard/client.wiz
> 
> Arnaud could you fix this if not done yet.
> Seems that __WIZ_HOME__ doesn't expand correctly.

Was already done but thanks for your interest and answer.

-- 
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Epitech - Promo 2006
http://arnaud.desmons.free.fr
aim: arnauddesmons




Re: [Cooker] drakwizard pngfile

2002-11-07 Thread Daouda LO
Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> When using drakconf/drakwizard, and selecting "dns client" in server
> configuration, I get this error:
> gtkcreate_png: missing png file
> /home/logarno/soft/wizard_perl/test/client_wizard/images/DNS.png at
> /usr/lib/libDrakX/ugtk.pm line 801.
> It seems to try to load the wrong png file and stop there.
> 
> Using here:
> drakxtools-1.1.10-1mdk
> drakwizard-0.2-14mdk
> 
> I spoke someone on irc who used 9.0 with updates, and got the error:
> Can't locate
> /home/logarno/soft/wizard_perl/test/client_wizard/scripts/Clientconf.pm in
> @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at
> /usr/sbin/drakwizard line 113.

quick fix:
replace /home/logarno/soft/wizard_perl/test by /usr/share/wizards
in file /usr/share/wizards/client_wizard/client.wiz

Arnaud could you fix this if not done yet.
Seems that __WIZ_HOME__ doesn't expand correctly.




Re: [Cooker] svgalib

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Maxim Heijndijk wrote:


* Stardate: 2002-11-07 14:53
* Incoming subspace signal from "Per Øyvind Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" :

 

There is lots of projects that do the same job 10 times better and 1000
times in a more secure way.
 


Where ?

 

still, there's those who depends on it;)
   


I have rebuilt svgalib for 9.0. It's on MandrakeClub in testing.

 

hmm, you did?
dang, I just finished building my own svgalib package;)
Could you provide me with your source rpm?

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Sysadmin, developer, greasemonkey
www.delonic.no - +47 41681061






Re: [Cooker] Preventing Mozilla to hang with RPM-files

2002-11-07 Thread David Walser
--- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:02:01 +0200, mika.laiti
> wrote:
> 
> > I am using Mandrake 9.0 and I have noticed that
> Mozilla will hang and 
> > totally freeze my desktop if it will start to read
> rpm-files.
> > How can I force Mozilla to saving these files. (I
> believe that Mozilla 
> > thinks that they are Real Player sound files and
> starts downloading them.)
> > 
> > I know that usually I could use "save target as"
> button, but unfortunately 
> > in places like a SourceForge download area the
> downloading will start 
> > automatically... 
> > --> Ui is in freeze until I can kill mozilla in
> the terminal...
> 
> Complain to Real Networks.. Their Real plugin is
> broken because it says it
> manages .rpm files.. There is nothing we can do
> about that..

It does manage .rpm files, RealPlayer Plugin Modules. 
I'd be interested to know whether RealNetworks or
RedHat started using .rpm first, but they've both been
using it for many years.  Isn't MIME supposed to be
able to deal with this kind of problem though?

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Re: [Cooker] Preventing Mozilla to hang with RPM-files

2002-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:02:01 +0200, mika.laiti wrote:

> I am using Mandrake 9.0 and I have noticed that Mozilla will hang and 
> totally freeze my desktop if it will start to read rpm-files.
> How can I force Mozilla to saving these files. (I believe that Mozilla 
> thinks that they are Real Player sound files and starts downloading them.)
> 
> I know that usually I could use "save target as" button, but unfortunately 
> in places like a SourceForge download area the downloading will start 
> automatically... 
> --> Ui is in freeze until I can kill mozilla in the terminal...

Complain to Real Networks.. Their Real plugin is broken because it says it
manages .rpm files.. There is nothing we can do about that..
-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft





Re: [Cooker] svgalib

2002-11-07 Thread Maxim Heijndijk
* Stardate: 2002-11-07 14:53
* Incoming subspace signal from "Per Øyvind Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" :

> >There is lots of projects that do the same job 10 times better and 1000
> >times in a more secure way.

Where ?

> still, there's those who depends on it;)

I have rebuilt svgalib for 9.0. It's on MandrakeClub in testing.

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Leon Brooks wrote:


On Thursday 07 November 2002 10:11 pm, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
 

Wim Horst wrote:
   

ai, ai, ai, urpmi asks for a hdlist, so i searched for something called
hdlist. Is this realy as stupid as it sounds?
 


 

uhhr, how about reading the doc's?
if you're going to be involved in cooker you *have* to know how to use
urpmi and read some doc's every now and then
   


True, but in the wiser context of his message we're discussing making the 
distro easier to use for newbies and ex-Borg-slaves. You shouldn't need to 
find out stuff like that, it should Just Work(tm).

Cheers; Leon




 

if you want things that "Just Work(tm)", you would use rpmdrake instead;)

--
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Delonic Technology Group AS
Sysadmin, developer, greasemonkey
www.delonic.no - +47 41681061






Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 07 November 2002 10:11 pm, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
> Wim Horst wrote:
>> ai, ai, ai, urpmi asks for a hdlist, so i searched for something called
>> hdlist. Is this realy as stupid as it sounds?

> uhhr, how about reading the doc's?
> if you're going to be involved in cooker you *have* to know how to use
> urpmi and read some doc's every now and then

True, but in the wiser context of his message we're discussing making the 
distro easier to use for newbies and ex-Borg-slaves. You shouldn't need to 
find out stuff like that, it should Just Work(tm).

Cheers; Leon





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Wim Horst wrote:


Op donderdag 7 november 2002 09:16, schreef Thomas Backlund:
 

From: "Wim Horst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson:
   

On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote:
 

Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks:
   

We have most of the technology, we can do it...

   http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233

Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem
 

things

   

(e.g. work desktop):

   What would you like carried across into Linux?
 

easy installation of programs
Lets take gstreamer
In this list i read something about it. Tryed to install it. Toke
   

me 2

   

hours because off all the dependencys. Some libs i did not find. I
   

am not

   

a total fool installing this kind of programs. The averidge
   

pc/windows

   

user just wants to try and install a program.
   

Next time, try this:

urpmi gstreamer

Works for me...
Not for me installing from ftp contrib site without hdlist.
 

So use synthesis.hdlist2.cz in the contrib RPMS directory...

Thomas




*** Tämä viesti on VirusTarkistettu INRITEL OY:n postipalvelimella!! ***
   

ai, ai, ai, urpmi asks for a hdlist, so i searched for something called 
hdlist. Is this realy as stupid as it sounds? 




 

uhhr, how about reading the doc's?
if you're going to be involved in cooker you *have* to know how to use 
urpmi and read some doc's every now and then

--
Mvh Per Øyvind Karlsen
Delonic Technology Group AS
Sysadmin, developer, greasemonkey
www.delonic.no - +47 41681061





[Cooker] Preventing Mozilla to hang with RPM-files

2002-11-07 Thread mika . laitio
I am using Mandrake 9.0 and I have noticed that Mozilla will hang and 
totally freeze my desktop if it will start to read rpm-files.
How can I force Mozilla to saving these files. (I believe that Mozilla 
thinks that they are Real Player sound files and starts downloading them.)

I know that usually I could use "save target as" button, but unfortunately 
in places like a SourceForge download area the downloading will start 
automatically... 
--> Ui is in freeze until I can kill mozilla in the terminal...

Mika




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers

2002-11-07 Thread Michael Holt
I don't know, I've been using Linux for about 4 years or so and I still 
have trouble with certain things and have to consult lists or google - 
that's sort of a right of passage I think.  I know plenty of Windows users 
who can't even figure out Windows - I don't care what you do, there will 
still be that person who says "I don't get it".  Sometimes it's good to 
have to struggle a bit to get the answer - it's good for people to 
exercise that brain muscle!

Mike

On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Leon Brooks wrote:

> However, that suggests another thing, if not already done: would it be 
> possible to fake up WINE enough that new Windows apps appear automagically in 
> the Mandrake menu system when they're installed? (And disappear when they're 
> uninstalled?)
> 
> Cheers; Leon
> 
> 

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Nautilus failure after gtk-2.0.7 update

2002-11-07 Thread Michal Bukovjan
Frederic Crozat wrote:

On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:14:26 +0100, Michal Bukovjan wrote:



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Michal Bukovjan wrote:


Looks like it needs a recompile?

Upon startup it behaves funny, then gives up. (Tries to display a window 
for every desktop icon, displays for a second, then closes the windows, 
and exits).

Here is what I get when trying manually:

[michal@bladerunner michal]$ nautilus

** (nautilus:8362): WARNING **: desktop: uri not available, fallback to 
file:

nautilus: relocation error: 
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.0.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-gif.so: undefined symbol: 
CHECK_LZWP_SP


Also, looks like there is a missing dependency on fontconfig somewhere 
(gtk will not work without that - found it the hard way).


I upgraded the gtk+2.0 to latest Cooker version (-3mdk), the problem 
persists, the error message above (undefined symbol) does not appear 
anymore.

I narrowed the problem somewhat further - the problem is not in 
Nautilus, but in pixbuf handling of gif images. (not sure if it is a 
fault of gdk-pixbuf or gtk+).


You need to upgrade also libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0* to 2.0.7-3mdk too
(libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0 is a part of GTK+2.0)...

I've checked your GIF file and it is now displayed correctly in both
nautilus and EOG..


OK, looks like the mirror I pull from did not sync all packages.

Upgraded now and confirmed fixed.

Now let's see about the Metacity problem... (will report later).

Michal





Re: [Cooker] svgalib

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Yves Duret wrote:


On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:01:48PM +0100, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
 

has svgalib been removed from mandrake?
   


yes.

 

I'd like to at least see it in contribs...
   


svgalib is bad. svgalib is evil :)
There is lots of projects that do the same job 10 times better and 1000
times in a more secure way.
 

still, there's those who depends on it;)


--
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Delonic Technology Group AS
Sysadmin, developer, greasemonkey
www.delonic.no - +47 41681061






Re: [Cooker] svgalib

2002-11-07 Thread Yves Duret
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:01:48PM +0100, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
> has svgalib been removed from mandrake?

yes.

> I'd like to at least see it in contribs...

svgalib is bad. svgalib is evil :)
There is lots of projects that do the same job 10 times better and 1000
times in a more secure way.
-- 
Yves Duret
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
piouk toujours et meme apres !




Re: [Cooker] IPX doesn't work

2002-11-07 Thread David Walser
--- Gerard Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is what I can do :
> - setup cooker and test with it : done. No problem.
> - test against a newer brand of Netware server : I
> have only an
> elderly 4.10. I can test with a 5.1 server, but I
> have to bring
> my box to the network of one of my customers. It's
> not a big
> problem, but I prefer to avoid useless activity if
> possible. Could
> this test help ?

Possibly.  In the meantime I'll try a stock kernel and
see if that fixes it.

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Wim Horst
Op donderdag 7 november 2002 09:16, schreef Thomas Backlund:
> From: "Wim Horst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson:
> > On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote:
> > > Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks:
> > > > We have most of the technology, we can do it...
> > > >
> > > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233
> > > >
> > > > Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem
>
> things
>
> > > > (e.g. work desktop):
> > > >
> > > > What would you like carried across into Linux?
> > >
> > > easy installation of programs
> > > Lets take gstreamer
> > > In this list i read something about it. Tryed to install it. Toke
>
> me 2
>
> > > hours because off all the dependencys. Some libs i did not find. I
>
> am not
>
> > > a total fool installing this kind of programs. The averidge
>
> pc/windows
>
> > > user just wants to try and install a program.
> >
> > Next time, try this:
> >
> > urpmi gstreamer
> >
> > Works for me...
> > Not for me installing from ftp contrib site without hdlist.
>
> So use synthesis.hdlist2.cz in the contrib RPMS directory...
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
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ai, ai, ai, urpmi asks for a hdlist, so i searched for something called 
hdlist. Is this realy as stupid as it sounds? 





[Cooker] Broadcom gigabit adapter in network install !

2002-11-07 Thread Mircea Ciocan
	The Mandrake-8.2 and 9.0 could not recognize that adapter on a Dell 
Power Edge beast, is by any chance recognized now by cooker, or is there 
a posibility to stuff a certain module during network install phase, 
either in 9.0 or in latest cooker ???

		Than you,

		Mircea C.





[Cooker] svgalib

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
has svgalib been removed from mandrake?
I'd like to at least see it in contribs...

--
Mvh Per Øyvind Karlsen
Delonic Technology Group AS
Sysadmin, developer, greasemonkey
www.delonic.no - +47 41681061






Re: [Cooker] chkrootkit reports false bindshell infecton on port 1008

2002-11-07 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 07 November 2002 08:10 pm, Salane wrote:
> On Thursday 07 November 2002 12:39 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 November 2002 11:57 am, Salane wrote:
> > > is this a problem with chkrootkit or with nfs
> >
> > Do an lsattr in (/usr)/(s)bin and check for funny attributes, just in
> > case. One of the features of many rootkits is subverting tools like
> > netstat. In fact, I discovered one the other day because netstat -tanp
> > failed (the cracked version was too old to support -p).
> >
> > Cheers; Leon
>
> cd /
> [root@sking /]# lsattr
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./1
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./bin
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./boot
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./dev
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./dhcpcd
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./etc
>  ./home
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./initrd
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./lib
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./mnt
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./opt
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./proc
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./root
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./sbin
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./tmp
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./usr
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./var

OK, so you're not using ext[23]fs except for /home? (-:

Cheers; Leon





[Cooker] Use of a remote cups server

2002-11-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Is it possible to configure a workstation to use a remote cups server for 
impression, without having to run its own cups daemon, or at least without 
having a cups deamon listening on network ?
-- 
All components become obsolete. 
-- Murphy's Computer Laws n°8




Re: [Cooker] chkrootkit reports false bindshell infecton on port 1008

2002-11-07 Thread Salane
On Thursday 07 November 2002 12:39 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
> On Thursday 07 November 2002 11:57 am, Salane wrote:
> > is this a problem with chkrootkit or with nfs
>
> Do an lsattr in (/usr)/(s)bin and check for funny attributes, just in case.
> One of the features of many rootkits is subverting tools like netstat. In
> fact, I discovered one the other day because netstat -tanp failed (the
> cracked version was too old to support -p).
>
> Cheers; Leon
cd /
[root@sking /]# lsattr
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./1
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./bin
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./boot
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./dev
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./dhcpcd
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./etc
 ./home
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./initrd
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./lib
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./mnt
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./opt
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./proc
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./root
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./sbin
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./tmp
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./usr
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./var





Re: [Cooker] tools

2002-11-07 Thread numea
A Thu, 7 Nov 2002 04:01:05 +0100
Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrivait:

> On 2002.11.04 22:53 Sérgio Martins wrote:
> > i made a tool to encrypt files, split files, secure erase, and 
> > otherstuff get it at
> > systemoverflow.tripod.com/setup.zip
> > 
> > just use wine to run it.
> > 
> 
> Is it a joke ?

Funny :) 
Wine??? and what else??directx8.1b jap version? :)
Long live to gnupg :)  ("wine free"(tm) )


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Re: [Cooker] new Evolution RC (1.2) and FreeSwan (1.99)

2002-11-07 Thread Robert Fox
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 09:52, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:10:31 +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
> 
> > I see the RC for KDE 3.1 in Cooker . . .
> > 
> > So I was wondering about the RC for Evolution (1.2) and the latest
> > FreeSwan (1.99 or 2.00 RC)
> 
> Give me a break.. If you didn't notice, I've started working on Evolution
> yesterday (gal, gtkhtml, soup)..
> 
> We are not a lot of people here at MdkSoft and we have to prioritize
> things.. 
> 
> -- 
> Frederic Crozat
> MandrakeSoft
> 
> 

Sorry . .





Re: [Cooker] Re: upgraded skip.list

2002-11-07 Thread François Pons
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Le Jeudi 7 Novembre 2002 10:06, François Pons a écrit :
> > Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > urpmi changelog for 4.0-4mdk says:
> > > - improved skip.list contents to provides using sense and regexp
> > >   on package fullname.
> > >
> > > However, it lacks a bit description to make it really useful :-)
> > >
> > > If for instance i want to avoid all automatic update of mdk package for
> > > mplayer, what is exact syntax needed ? mplayer.*\.mdk ?
> >
> > Not far for being that, in fact we need compability with previous file
> > format so, it cannot be that exactly, it is "/regexp/" on fullname or a
> > "provide sense" expression that should be used, it will forwarded to other
> > file for selection.
> I guess "provide sense" means "name", whereas "fullname" means 
> "name-version-release.platform.rpm", right ?

Almost yes, provide means name or provide of a package, sense means empty string
or for example "== 4.0" or "> 4.1-3mdk".

> If my assumptions are ok, answer to my previous question would be 
> /mplayer.*mdk.*/

Yes, more compact will be /mplayer.*mdk/ as a trailing .* add no more.

François.




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Faraj Meir
easy installation of windows apps using wine + all works made by wine
codeweather will be a great...

> possible to fake up WINE enough that new Windows apps appear automagically
in
> the Mandrake menu system when they're installed? (And disappear when
they're
> uninstalled?)
>
> Cheers; Leon
>






Re: [Cooker] IPX doesn't work

2002-11-07 Thread Gerard Patel
At 07:12 AM 11/6/02 -0800, you (David Walser) wrote:

>I tried it sometime around 9.0 and it didn't work.

Well, all this - me saying it works and you saying it don't - is not
very productive.
Here is what I can do :
- setup cooker and test with it : done. No problem.
- test against a newer brand of Netware server : I have only an
elderly 4.10. I can test with a 5.1 server, but I have to bring
my box to the network of one of my customers. It's not a big
problem, but I prefer to avoid useless activity if possible. Could
this test help ?

Gerard





[Cooker] gtkhtml breaks evolution

2002-11-07 Thread Eric Hattemer
Evolution works fine with gtkhtml-1.0.4-4mdk, but cannot create new
messages using gtkhtml-1.1.5-1mdk.  This was just released to cooker
recently, so it should not effect too many people.  Please check on this
compatibility.  I get a message to the effect of:
Error
Cannot initialize html editor
No application meets the requirements

It was real similar to that.  It is fixable by urpmi gtkhtml-1.0.4-4mdk
and having that automatically remove the new version.  

I am not a cooker member anymore, so please CC information to me.  Sorry
if this has already been reported.  

-Eric Hattemer






RE: [Cooker] FW: [lwlan-user] wlan-ng Warning for Mandrake Users: module conflicts

2002-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 02:10, Mcleod, Ian wrote:
> FYI on follow up..
> 
> I look forward to trying this when I get home..  I installed the
> prism2-utils package from Mandrake and I still can't start the eth1 device
> (operation not supported when I try to start kismet_monitor) and lots of
> errors regarding wrong ESSID, etc when I 'ifup eth1' although I could find
> nothing in any configuration file..

linux-wlan-ng drivers use wlan0, wlan1 etc devices. not the eth0, eth1
etc devices.
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker] ... FreeSwan (1.99)

2002-11-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: "Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:10:31 +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
>
> > I see the RC for KDE 3.1 in Cooker . . .
> >
> > So I was wondering about the RC for Evolution (1.2) and the latest
> > FreeSwan (1.99 or 2.00 RC)
>
> Give me a break.. If you didn't notice, I've started working on
Evolution
> yesterday (gal, gtkhtml, soup)..
>
> We are not a lot of people here at MdkSoft and we have to prioritize
> things..
>
> --
> Frederic Crozat
> MandrakeSoft
>

Just a thought...
at: http://www.freeswan.org/freeswan_trees/freeswan-1.99/CHANGES
it states:
- cut -
New and notable in 1.99:

RedHat 8.0 users: iptables is now used to secure default installations
of RedHat. You will need to specifically allow ISAKMP traffic through
your firewall (UDP port 500) until our code, which does this
automatically for earlier RedHat version (which use ipchains). This
will
be updated in 2.00. Check doc/firewall.html for the rules you will
need
to add to /etc/sysconfig/iptables.

libdes change - allow gcc3 compiled modules to load on gcc3 systems.

Pluto bug fix - assertion failure when DNS TXT record query is
not needed by the time of the request.

ESP (and AH, IPCOMP) potential DOS fix.

RedHat RPM related changes: we now use "rpmbuild" instead of RPM. This
is backwards compatible with older versions of RPM. Support for
modutils
2.4.18-2 added, as well as support for new kernel version nomenclature
(ie, 2.4.18-17.7.x).

Updated the minstall target to re-install all modules. Frequently, the
result
of the previous target was a system with no modules aside from ours.
- cut -

Does theese bugs also affect the MDK 9.0 freeswan release
if so, there should be some security updates for all MDK 9.0 users...

Thomas




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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: "Wim Horst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson:
> On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote:
> > Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks:
> > > We have most of the technology, we can do it...
> > >
> > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233
> > >
> > > Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem
things
> > > (e.g. work desktop):
> > >
> > > What would you like carried across into Linux?
> >
> > easy installation of programs
> > Lets take gstreamer
> > In this list i read something about it. Tryed to install it. Toke
me 2
> > hours because off all the dependencys. Some libs i did not find. I
am not
> > a total fool installing this kind of programs. The averidge
pc/windows
> > user just wants to try and install a program.
>
> Next time, try this:
>
> urpmi gstreamer
>
> Works for me...
> Not for me installing from ftp contrib site without hdlist.

So use synthesis.hdlist2.cz in the contrib RPMS directory...

Thomas




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Re: [Cooker] Re: upgraded skip.list

2002-11-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le Jeudi 7 Novembre 2002 10:06, François Pons a écrit :
> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > urpmi changelog for 4.0-4mdk says:
> > - improved skip.list contents to provides using sense and regexp
> >   on package fullname.
> >
> > However, it lacks a bit description to make it really useful :-)
> >
> > If for instance i want to avoid all automatic update of mdk package for
> > mplayer, what is exact syntax needed ? mplayer.*\.mdk ?
>
> Not far for being that, in fact we need compability with previous file
> format so, it cannot be that exactly, it is "/regexp/" on fullname or a
> "provide sense" expression that should be used, it will forwarded to other
> file for selection.
I guess "provide sense" means "name", whereas "fullname" means 
"name-version-release.platform.rpm", right ?

If my assumptions are ok, answer to my previous question would be 
/mplayer.*mdk.*/
-- 
If such a program has not crashed yet, it is waiting for a critical moment 
before it crashes. 
-- Murphy's Computer Laws n°6




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Wim Horst
Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson:
> On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote:
> > Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks:
> > > We have most of the technology, we can do it...
> > >
> > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233
> > >
> > > Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem things
> > > (e.g. work desktop):
> > >
> > > What would you like carried across into Linux?
> >
> > easy installation of programs
> > Lets take gstreamer
> > In this list i read something about it. Tryed to install it. Toke me 2
> > hours because off all the dependencys. Some libs i did not find. I am not
> > a total fool installing this kind of programs. The averidge pc/windows
> > user just wants to try and install a program.
>
> Next time, try this:
>
> urpmi gstreamer
>
> Works for me...
Not for me installing from ftp contrib site without hdlist.





[Cooker] Re: upgraded skip.list

2002-11-07 Thread François Pons
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> urpmi changelog for 4.0-4mdk says:
> - improved skip.list contents to provides using sense and regexp
>   on package fullname.
> 
> However, it lacks a bit description to make it really useful :-)
> 
> If for instance i want to avoid all automatic update of mdk package for 
> mplayer, what is exact syntax needed ? mplayer.*\.mdk ?

Not far for being that, in fact we need compability with previous file format
so, it cannot be that exactly, it is "/regexp/" on fullname or a "provide sense"
expression that should be used, it will forwarded to other file for selection.

François.




Re: [Cooker] new Evolution RC (1.2) and FreeSwan (1.99)

2002-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:10:31 +0100, Robert Fox wrote:

> I see the RC for KDE 3.1 in Cooker . . .
> 
> So I was wondering about the RC for Evolution (1.2) and the latest
> FreeSwan (1.99 or 2.00 RC)

Give me a break.. If you didn't notice, I've started working on Evolution
yesterday (gal, gtkhtml, soup)..

We are not a lot of people here at MdkSoft and we have to prioritize
things.. 

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft





Re: [Cooker] evolution broken (gtkhtml?)

2002-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:37:10 +, Quel Qun wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I cannot create, forward nor reply to any message:
> 
> "Could not create composer window: Unable to activate HTML editor
> component. The error from the activation system is: Nothing
> matched the requirements."
> 
> gtkhtml-1.1.5-1mdk, libgtkhtml1.1_3-1.1.5-1mdk

That is the problem when you live with bleeding edge packages :))

I'm currently working on new Evolution 1.2 RC packages.. 

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft





Re: [Cooker] gkrellm needs rebuilding

2002-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:04:46 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

> Le Mercredi 6 Novembre 2002 15:57, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
>> Try upgrading to gtk+2.0 2.0.7-3mdk, I've enforced some dependencies..
> OK, seems to work at home with gtk+2.0 2.0.7-3mdk
> 
> However, i had run into this other missing dependency:
> [root@baader rpms]# rpm -F * --nodeps
> /usr/bin/pango-querymodules: error while loading shared libraries: 
> libXft.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> error: execution of 0ost scriptlet from pango-1.1.3-1mdk failed, exit status 
> 127
> 
> Seems pango needs an additional require for libXft2

I'll check that.. Probably a missing PreReq on libXft2.. Thanks

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft





Re: [Cooker] Nautilus failure after gtk-2.0.7 update

2002-11-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:14:26 +0100, Michal Bukovjan wrote:

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --060507000509020003000804
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Michal Bukovjan wrote:
>> Looks like it needs a recompile?
>> 
>> Upon startup it behaves funny, then gives up. (Tries to display a window 
>> for every desktop icon, displays for a second, then closes the windows, 
>> and exits).
>> 
>> Here is what I get when trying manually:
>> 
>> [michal@bladerunner michal]$ nautilus
>> 
>> ** (nautilus:8362): WARNING **: desktop: uri not available, fallback to 
>> file:
>> 
>> nautilus: relocation error: 
>> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.0.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-gif.so: undefined symbol: 
>> CHECK_LZWP_SP
>> 
>> 
>> Also, looks like there is a missing dependency on fontconfig somewhere 
>> (gtk will not work without that - found it the hard way).
>> 
> 
> I upgraded the gtk+2.0 to latest Cooker version (-3mdk), the problem 
> persists, the error message above (undefined symbol) does not appear 
> anymore.
> 
> I narrowed the problem somewhat further - the problem is not in 
> Nautilus, but in pixbuf handling of gif images. (not sure if it is a 
> fault of gdk-pixbuf or gtk+).

You need to upgrade also libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0* to 2.0.7-3mdk too
(libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0 is a part of GTK+2.0)...

I've checked your GIF file and it is now displayed correctly in both
nautilus and EOG..
-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft