Re: [Cooker] was Mandrake Made Easy:now simple request
this I believe was what this thread was started to address, how to change the reputation and lack of information about linux. Yeah, you are right. First, we must see what does ordinary people think of linux. For me, three categories. The ones who knows it, and the ones who don't knows, and the others. The others don't know what is lInux, they don't use computer. I think they don't have any bad opinions of linux, so, it is easier to explain them by talking about he free software and so on. They can as easily use linux for surfing the web as Windows. My best example is my sister. If I didn't had hardware probleme, i would let a linux only computer only, or at least, a dual boot computer ( still lacks of thing such as encyclopedia under linux. there is some web site, but Internet is not unlimited at home :( ). The ones who don't know, just explain, show some articles, and they go into the third category. The ones who already knows, can be,n for me subdivised into sub categories. The one who ever tried, but have good reasons for not using it ( and prefering Windows, or mac ). They may change in the future, and I think we must listen to them. See their needs, try to discuss, and discuss of it. The ones who tried, but not really. Or said they tried. The ones who say that linux s***, and who don't want to change. These kind of people who always say that windows is bad, but don't change. I mean people who can change, not people who don't really know, who are afraid of changing. People who are afraid of changing only need a small help, just someone to refer when they can't figure how to do something. If it don't work for them, ok, they can. People who could try, who says that Windows is s***, but who still use office, because it is cool, because everyone use it, are just stupid sheeps. Sorry to say that, but I don't see what to do for them. So, to summarize my point of view, we need to show linux, to install it around us, in a proper way. For example, using old hardware and some good software ( icewm, abiword, and so on ), you can recycle old computer, it will be useful for some peoples. You can also use the fact that the software are not in english. And be honest. In fact, just read the advocacy howto. and apply it. and, try to promote diversity in school. and around us. Not only Linux, but also mac, and other. If BeOS didn't disappear... Mick okay if anyone ( read Mandrake Staff ) has snapshots ( screen captures ) of each step of the install, both normal and expert. send them to me. I can produce a complete multimedia presentation to show how linux is not what it was. it will fit nicely into a whole advertising campaign for linux-mandrake
[Cooker] Tkinter not updated
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Re: [Cooker] Can't locate printer/detect.pm in harddrake2
Todd Lyons wrote: [todd@fiji ~]$ urpmf printer/detect drakxtools-newt:/usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/detect.pm It looks like you don't have drakxtools-newt because /usr/lib/libDrakX *IS* in your path. Works fine since last update (I had updated just before sending the mail but the new package reached the mirror a few hours later)
Re: [Cooker] WTF?
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 03:56:38PM -0800, Todd Lyons wrote: > No, the reason that it's failing now is because the setting of true is > what is in the global macros. This function has always been there, just > disabled by default. Now it's enabled. Maybe I'm in the minority, but > I think it was a good idea for the short term. I'm willing to go with > whatever the developers decide is good for long term. > > [todd@fiji ~]$ grep unpackaged_files_terminate /usr/lib/rpm/macros > %_unpackaged_files_terminate_build 1 Bzzt please do not pass go, do not collect $200. [breser@titanium breser]$ grep unpackaged_files_terminate_build /usr/lib/rpm/macros [breser@titanium breser]$ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) for ppc And note the changelog entry refrencing Patch49: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-changelog&m=103704222426951&w=2 And then note what's in Patch49: http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/SPECS/rpm/rpm-4.0.4-check-files.patch?rev=1.1&content-type=text/plain -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org "If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough." - Jim Nichols
Re: [Cooker] urpmi kdebase don't install libqt:
My bad, libqt3 is already install, in fact my ld.so.conf is wrong: urpme libqt3 urpmi kdebase fixed the pb Sorry for the to easy bug report. Le Samedi 16 Novembre 2002 02:56, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : > Very strange things: > > urpmi kdebase > To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed > (295 MB): > arts-1.1.0-0.rc3.1mdk.i586 > kdebase-3.1-0.rc3.6mdk.i586 > kdelibs-3.1-0.rc3.2mdk.i586 > krootwarning-9.0-9mdk.i586 > libarts-1.1.0-0.rc3.1mdk.i586 > Is this OK? (Y/n) y > > installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-3.1-0.rc3.6mdk.i586.rpm > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/krootwarning-9.0-9mdk.i586.rpm > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libarts-1.1.0-0.rc3.1mdk.i586.rpm > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-3.1-0.rc3.2mdk.i586.rpm > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/arts-1.1.0-0.rc3.1mdk.i586.rpm > ... > [nanardon@virgo olivier]$ konqueror& > [1] 5418 > [nanardon@virgo olivier]$ konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: > libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > [1]+ Exit 127konqueror > [nanardon@virgo olivier]$ urpmf libqt-mt.so.3 > libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 > libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1 > libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.0 -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
[Cooker] urpmi kdebase don't install libqt:
Very strange things: urpmi kdebase To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (295 MB): arts-1.1.0-0.rc3.1mdk.i586 kdebase-3.1-0.rc3.6mdk.i586 kdelibs-3.1-0.rc3.2mdk.i586 krootwarning-9.0-9mdk.i586 libarts-1.1.0-0.rc3.1mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) y installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-3.1-0.rc3.6mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/krootwarning-9.0-9mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libarts-1.1.0-0.rc3.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-3.1-0.rc3.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/arts-1.1.0-0.rc3.1mdk.i586.rpm ... [nanardon@virgo olivier]$ konqueror& [1] 5418 [nanardon@virgo olivier]$ konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [1]+ Exit 127konqueror [nanardon@virgo olivier]$ urpmf libqt-mt.so.3 libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1 libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.0 -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Fw: Re: ohphone/openh323 in 9.0
On 13 Nov 2002 11:11:12 +0100 Florin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > ohphone does not compile on cooker (and even 9.0, I think) ... I have to > rebuild it again ... Can you put a fixed one in the 9.0 updates please? I just installed 9.0 (re-partitioned the drive) on a WalMart/Microtel PC and the first appl I tried to install was ohphone which, unlike on my 8.2-->9.0 upgraded laptop, will not work at all... Tried urpmi and MCC installs without success... Cheers, Pierre > cheers, > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pierre Fortin) writes: > > > Can anyone decypher Gwenole's response for me...?? > > > > I feel like I was accused of doing some bad gcc 2.96 and 3.2 > > weirdness... > > > > > > This is a NEW laptop, on which I installed LM8.2, ran it for a few > > days, then upgraded with 9.0, after which I did: > > rpm -ivh cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/openh323_1-1.9.3-2mdk.i586.rpm > > rpm -ivh cd3/Mandrake/RPMS3/ohphone-1.2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > and ohphone won't start... somehow, I'm convinced that the above > > should not result in mixed "gcc2.96 and gcc3.2 compiled > > binaries/libraries" since I did not compile anything... besides, I > > wouldn't even know how to detect the difference between libs from one > > gcc or the other... > > > > If LM9.0 upgrade failed to upgrade all the libs, how can I find which > > ones are still gcc 2.96 based -- assUming ohphone/openh323 were > > distributed from gcc3.2...? > > > > Thanks, > > Pierre > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:37:34 -0500 > > From: Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: ohphone/openh323 in 9.0 > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:36:17 +0100 (CET) Gwenole Beauchesne > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > > > > > $ ohphone > > > > ohphone: relocation error: ohphone: undefined symbol: __ti7PThread > > > > > > That's "PThread type_info node". You are probably mixing gcc2.96 and > > > gcc3.2 compiled binaries/libraries. Please clean up. > > > > > > Bye, > > > Gwenole. > > > > This is a newly acquired IBM ThinkPad on which I have installed LM8.2 > > for a few days until I got the 9.0 CDs burned and then upgraded > > 82->9.0 using the new option. I have not done anything special, other > > than manually installing openh323/ohphone since the install/upgrade no > > longer lists these (since 8.1 IIRC). > > > > Are you implying that there may be special procedures required to go > > between 8.2 & 9.0...? That's all I can figure from your answer since > > it's all Mdk install/upgrade that got me here... > > > > Thanks, > > Pierre > > >
[Cooker] Request for change to /etc/pcmcia/config
In order to improve the number of pcmcia cards that work on MDK laptops. I'd like to request the following lines be included in /etc/pcmcia/config card "D-Link DFE-670TXD PC Card" manfid 0x0149, 0x4530 bind "pcnet_cs" By adding these lines the stock kernel now works with this card and the card is autodetected and runs on MDK 9.0 Thanks in advance for your time. -- James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] XFS+HIGHMEM lockup, with fix.
Sweet! I'm impressed that you found such an obscure bug. Could you go through some of the steps that you went through to do this debugging? I would suggest the following mentionables: 1) enabling kdb Not that hard in the mandrake kernel, just switch the kdb option in the .spec file from 0 to 1. 2) interpreting the data I did a full backtrace of every process that was on the machine. (After the machine locked up). once your in the kdb console you just type "ps" for the process list, and then "bta" to backtrace all processes. The problem was there was NO xfs backtraces, however one processes was screwed up and a backtrace could not be done. This ment that something in that process got totally hosed. it's also the process that hard locked the machine. I pointed out that the load on the machine can be very low when the bug is triggered, and that it doesn't get triggered when there is no high memory available. (even when running the highmem kernel) In linux, when HIGHMEM is turned on there is still "regular" (LOWMEM) memory. As long as xfs was only playing with the LOWMEM segment of memory no lockups. But as soon as xfs used HIGHMEM (no matter the load ont he machine) it locked hard. 3) What made you zero in on that particular memset (ties back to #2) I ran SGI's pre3 of XFS 1.2 kernels and had no problems. After that I used thier own brew of 1.1 with highmem, and didn't have a problem. After I told SGI they sent me a one liner patch. 4) Documentation that says the __pb_block_prepare_write already kmap'ed the page. If the answer is "use the source Luke" then so be it SGI read the source... and knows it... ;) Mandrake must have pulled the xfs patches from SGI at exactly the wrong time :( -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] XFS+HIGHMEM lockup, with fix.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryan Whitehead wrote on Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 03:51:03PM -0800 : > After working with SGI for the past week, with kdb backtraces and many > rebuilds of the kernel. The problem with the xfs filesystem as mandrake > ships it was found. Finally! Now I can use all the memory we bought for > our machines!! :) > I included a patch that needs to be dropped into the 2.4.19-q16/patches > directory in the kernel source as shipped with mandrake 9.0. Sweet! I'm impressed that you found such an obscure bug. Could you go through some of the steps that you went through to do this debugging? I would suggest the following mentionables: 1) enabling kdb 2) interpreting the data 3) What made you zero in on that particular memset (ties back to #2) 4) Documentation that says the __pb_block_prepare_write already kmap'ed the page. If the answer is "use the source Luke" then so be it Congrats! Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.19-19mdksecure -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE91Y6tlp7v05cW2woRAksAAJ9Ae8Jjj292JrCb5OoaySlEipd+RQCfft3S G/OzSTk3d2/Xvu8NUerhl9s= =CjD+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Can't locate printer/detect.pm in harddrake2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pascal Terjan wrote on Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 01:58:48PM +0100 : > # harddrake2 > modprobe: Can't locate module serial > modprobe: Can't locate module serial > Please wait while probing serial ports... > Can't locate printer/detect.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at > /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/data.pm line 49. [todd@fiji ~]$ urpmf printer/detect drakxtools-newt:/usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/detect.pm It looks like you don't have drakxtools-newt because /usr/lib/libDrakX *IS* in your path. Blue skies... Todd - -- Never take no as an answer from someone who's not authorized to say yes. --Ben Reser on Cooker ML Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.19-19mdksecure -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE91Yz2lp7v05cW2woRAk2MAJ9qZwiz2Jiw8kixx3uRi7w6RLtCtgCfYsWY 7TZIbbOdFxm5eUnsBdLoDWY= =CGZ6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] WTF?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oden Eriksson wrote on Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:06:01AM +0100 : > > > You can add: > > %define _unpackaged_files_terminate_build 0 > > to your spec file to disable this check. > Thanks Ben. _That_ should have been included in the global macros. No, the reason that it's failing now is because the setting of true is what is in the global macros. This function has always been there, just disabled by default. Now it's enabled. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think it was a good idea for the short term. I'm willing to go with whatever the developers decide is good for long term. [todd@fiji ~]$ grep unpackaged_files_terminate /usr/lib/rpm/macros %_unpackaged_files_terminate_build 1 I also agree it is a very bad idea to change it in your /usr/lib/rpm/macros or in your ~/.rpmmacros because when someone else out there who has the default rpm configs tries to build it, it will fail and this will become an even bigger FAQ than it already is. If you want to override it, override it in your spec file and make damn sure that anybody who inherits that rpm gets the srpm. I don't think it's the way to do it though. Just rm the files that need to be excluded (the best example I have seen of this is the /etc/mime.types file while building mutt needs to be excluded because /etc/mime.types is provided by a different package). Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.19-19mdksecure -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE91Ym2lp7v05cW2woRAtvqAKDGpOKbCeMFSPuxfbWOiM5fKJjf3wCdHXiZ xiiQFi7+xxst8D6UvMVyb+A= =PueC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] XFS+HIGHMEM lockup, with fix.
After working with SGI for the past week, with kdb backtraces and many rebuilds of the kernel. The problem with the xfs filesystem as mandrake ships it was found. Finally! Now I can use all the memory we bought for our machines!! :) I included a patch that needs to be dropped into the 2.4.19-q16/patches directory in the kernel source as shipped with mandrake 9.0. Please apply and release a new kernel... :) -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED] diff -ru linux-2.4.19/fs/xfs.orig/pagebuf/page_buf_io.c linux-2.4.19/fs/xfs/pagebuf/page_buf_io.c --- linux-2.4.19/fs/xfs.orig/pagebuf/page_buf_io.c 2002-11-13 17:25:21.0 -0800 +++ linux-2.4.19/fs/xfs/pagebuf/page_buf_io.c 2002-11-13 17:31:40.0 -0800 @@ -309,7 +309,8 @@ __pb_block_prepare_write_async(ip, page, cpoff, cpoff+csize, at_eof, NULL, pbmapp, PBF_WRITE); - memset((void *) (kmap(page) + cpoff), 0, csize); + /* __pb_block_prepare_write already kmap'd the page */ + memset((void *) (page_address(page) + cpoff), 0, csize); pagebuf_commit_write_core(ip, page, cpoff, cpoff + csize); pos = ((loff_t)page->index << PAGE_CACHE_SHIFT) + cpoff + csize; Only in linux-2.4.19/fs/xfs/pagebuf: page_buf_io.c.orig
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]
> > By talking of university, is the free software situation as bad in my old > > school ? > > We only had Windows NT, and some old sparc station. > > And some students in a engineer school in France were not happy about > > that situation, ( in their school ). > > not sure about the hardware, but I know one university networking > professor that was running hosting service through the university, to > study the data transfer usage for the graphics communities web sites. > he had 28 sites and was running at 16 gigabytes of data transfer a day. > that says that the hardware couldn't have been that far behind. ( > someone put pirated copy of a movie in the hard drives he was using, the > university shut his study down. It depends of university. Here, in montreal, we have some 2Ghz, with lcd screens. I remeber having begin on 286 in France only 4 years ago, with out hard drive. And my school still run with windows3.1 only 2 years ago > > If students see that Linux is not 'a black command line for psychotic > > computer freaks', it would change a lot. > > Even teacher don't know linux. I mean, they still believe that vim/emacs > > and gcc. Some still use vi ( have nothing against vi, but vim is far > > better ). This is not their faults, we all discover some new things about > > free software each days.. > > > > Software is not the only probleme, reputation is another one. > > this I believe was what this thread was started to address, how to > change the reputation and lack of information about linux. Yeah, you are right. First, we must see what does ordinary people think of linux. For me, three categories. The ones who knows it, and the ones who don't knows, and the others. The others don't know what is lInux, they don't use computer. I think they don't have any bad opinions of linux, so, it is easier to explain them by talking about he free software and so on. They can as easily use linux for surfing the web as Windows. My best example is my sister. If I didn't had hardware probleme, i would let a linux only computer only, or at least, a dual boot computer ( still lacks of thing such as encyclopedia under linux. there is some web site, but Internet is not unlimited at home :( ). The ones who don't know, just explain, show some articles, and they go into the third category. The ones who already knows, can be,n for me subdivised into sub categories. The one who ever tried, but have good reasons for not using it ( and prefering Windows, or mac ). They may change in the future, and I think we must listen to them. See their needs, try to discuss, and discuss of it. The ones who tried, but not really. Or said they tried. The ones who say that linux s***, and who don't want to change. These kind of people who always say that windows is bad, but don't change. I mean people who can change, not people who don't really know, who are afraid of changing. People who are afraid of changing only need a small help, just someone to refer when they can't figure how to do something. If it don't work for them, ok, they can. People who could try, who says that Windows is s***, but who still use office, because it is cool, because everyone use it, are just stupid sheeps. Sorry to say that, but I don't see what to do for them. So, to summarize my point of view, we need to show linux, to install it around us, in a proper way. For example, using old hardware and some good software ( icewm, abiword, and so on ), you can recycle old computer, it will be useful for some peoples. You can also use the fact that the software are not in english. And be honest. In fact, just read the advocacy howto. and apply it. and, try to promote diversity in school. and around us. Not only Linux, but also mac, and other. If BeOS didn't disappear... Mick
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libpcap-0.7.1-3mdk
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 11:03:27AM +, Adam Williamson wrote: > IMPORTANT re this package: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/28105.html > > We don't have the trojaned version packaged, do we? As I said earlier. I verified every package since 7.2 of these two things that Mandrake has put out. They do not contain the trojan. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org "If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough." - Jim Nichols
Re: [Cooker] Extensions missing from the latest XFree
Stefan van der Eijk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > Han Boetes wrote: > > > > > Two more problems from the front: > > > > > > Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0" > > > > > > Which is entensively used by fluxbox's dockapps > > > > > > Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0". > > > > > > And this one is used to get Quake3 in full-screenmode. > > > > And some more: > > > > XMovie (c) 2001 Heroine Virtual > > Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0". > > Xlib: extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0". > > > > My tvcard used to use overlay, but that's broken now... It'll > > only display with "grab display" == lower resolution and uses > > more CPU :-( > > just add > > Load "extmod" > > in the Section "Module" of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Haven't I replied to myself? How sloppy. Just make sure the module section looks like this, just like it is generated by the installer (blush) : Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" # 3D layer EndSection //Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
Re: [Cooker] Extensions missing from the latest XFree
Solved! just add Load "extmod" in the Section "Module" of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Stefan van der Eijk wrote: Han Boetes wrote: Hi, Two more problems from the front: Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0" Which is entensively used by fluxbox's dockapps Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0". And this one is used to get Quake3 in full-screenmode. //Han And some more: XMovie (c) 2001 Heroine Virtual Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0". My tvcard used to use overlay, but that's broken now... It'll only display with "grab display" == lower resolution and uses more CPU :-( Stefan smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] linux-2.4.19.tar.gz + patch-2.4.20-rc1.gz .config-enterprise resolved high sys-cpu on my smp and also on my laptop...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 current cooker on smp and laptop (if 'mkcd --check' is ok .update and auto-select with urpmi every hour;o) linux-2.4.19.tar.gz + patch-2.4.20-rc1.gz config-2.4.19-19mdkenterprise resolved high sys-cpu on my smp... ...and also resolved on my laptop an oldold problem (worked till 8.2 but not after): if 3c575 Fast EtherLink XL is inserted during boot, after I haven't sound : maestro is NOT detected ;o/ (it erroneously detect a CS42xx and obviously doesn't work) if 3c575 Fast EtherLink XL is NOT inserted during boot is ok :maestro IS detected now I compiled 2.4.20-rc1 also on my laptop using as reference config-2.4.19-19mdk I try a boot with 3c575 cardbus inserted.maestro is detected IT WORKS AGAIN;o - -laptop--- lspcidrake agpgart : Intel Corporation|440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge unknown : Intel Corporation|440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge yenta_socket: Texas Instruments|PCI1225 PC Card Controller yenta_socket: Texas Instruments|PCI1225 PC Card Controller unknown : Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 ISA unknown : Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 IDE usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 USB sonypi : Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 ACPI - Bus Master IDE Controller maestro : ESS Technology|ES1978 Maestro 2E Bad:www.linmodems.org: Lucent Microelectronics|WinModem 56k Card:ATI Rage Mobility: ATI|Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x 3c59x : 3Com Corporation|3c575 Fast EtherLink XL unknown : Virtual|Hub [] - -laptop--- cuand good work...;o) On Friday 15 November 2002 20:22, Franco Silvestro wrote: > Subject: Re: [Cooker] kernel-enterprise-2.4.19.18mdk-1-1mdk(or -smp) andACPI >support -> on smp system cpu on first cpu goes up > Only for info...;o) today I had time to try with kernel2.4.20-rc1 > (linux-2.4.19.tar.gz + patch-2.4.20-rc1.gz)... I take .configure ~ from > kernel-enterprise-2.4.19.18mdk-1-1mdkcompiled and installed.and now > I have correct behaviour !;o) NO MORE HIGH SYSTEM CPU (and little > more speed...;o) after more than a week with first sys-cpu always at more > than 90% doing nothing [...] - -- Franco Silvestro c/o CeSIA - Alma Mater Studiorum - Universita' di Bologna 'lynx -source http://www.reti.unibo.it/FrancoSilvestro.asc | gpg --import' Key fingerprint = 3145 1309 C5D8 7B3F 2582 44D2 91BB ACAB E010 ABF9 Current Linux uptime: 3 hours 39 minutes. - - Fri Nov 15 23:34:30 CET 2002 - - Linux 2.4.20-rc1HalfCat GNU/Linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE91Xjwkbusq+AQq/kRAqnAAJ4gHMB0kt9tYi4HZX2Iv4c1eGXdmACdH544 H0cROfPCWyr2fCtj0tOUTYc= =vXat -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]
interspersed comments Michael Scherer wrote: But the point is to develop a opensource dvd player is not possible, thanks to movie maker. Not impossible, just illegal in some countries. It's legal here (for example). Mmh, when you say some coutry, you speaks of this country just below Canada ? This country who arrest people in some other country because they wrote a software to see the DVD they just bought ? Who may dare to make them angry ? But, you are right, maybe a special distro for each country. Maybe a partnership with a local reseller ? There is no freeware dvd player on windows, even if everyone use cracked ones. Most DVD drives come with DVD playing software for windows. Yes, but this is the same as Winzip. Everyone wants to use THE dvd software everyone is talking about. All my room-mates use PowerDvd, even the one who have a licence for WinDVD. Some of them had probleme with WinDVD, some others wanted some fonctionnality. IMHO, OpenOffice.org is good enough, just missing better db support (Access-alike) and video support in impress. OpenOffice could be far better, as i stated before, it lacks templates ( out of the box, I had to take the one given by StarOffice5.2 ). And, it still need memory. I don't know if all business have very up to date with their hardware, but the ones i have seen didn't... But, maybe it doesn't matter, they may change their hardware at the same time they change the software... Depends. Some needs to be changed heavily. Yes, but, only those who touch to the system, I think. You could have fooled most of our university admin staff ... MMh, sorry, i don't understand. I will take this as a compliment. more like an insult on the understanding of the university staff in question. By talking of university, is the free software situation as bad in my old school ? We only had Windows NT, and some old sparc station. And some students in a engineer school in France were not happy about that situation, ( in their school ). not sure about the hardware, but I know one university networking professor that was running hosting service through the university, to study the data transfer usage for the graphics communities web sites. he had 28 sites and was running at 16 gigabytes of data transfer a day. that says that the hardware couldn't have been that far behind. ( someone put pirated copy of a movie in the hard drives he was using, the university shut his study down. If students see that Linux is not 'a black command line for psychotic computer freaks', it would change a lot. Even teacher don't know linux. I mean, they still believe that vim/emacs and gcc. Some still use vi ( have nothing against vi, but vim is far better ). This is not their faults, we all discover some new things about free software each days.. Software is not the only probleme, reputation is another one. this I believe was what this thread was started to address, how to change the reputation and lack of information about linux. Jaqui
[Cooker] problem with urlmon-4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm CONTRIB package
There seems to miss path to MD5.pm a temporary fix would be to add use lib 'path-to-MD5.pm'; before the call of MD5.pm Would it nod be wiser to put MD5.pm in standard location? Get the following error message; Can't locate MD5.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at ./urlmon line 150. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./urlmon line 150. Regards Torstein Hernes Dybdahl -- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU ---
[Cooker] rpm -qa foo*
It seems that only works with like every other release of the rpm package. Right now, for example: rpm -qa kernel* is not working again. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] Extensions missing from the latest XFree
Han Boetes wrote: Hi, Two more problems from the front: Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0" Which is entensively used by fluxbox's dockapps Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0". And this one is used to get Quake3 in full-screenmode. //Han And some more: XMovie (c) 2001 Heroine Virtual Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0". My tvcard used to use overlay, but that's broken now... It'll only display with "grab display" == lower resolution and uses more CPU :-( Stefan smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]
> > But the point is to develop a opensource dvd player is not possible, > > thanks to > > movie maker. > Not impossible, just illegal in some countries. It's legal here (for > example). Mmh, when you say some coutry, you speaks of this country just below Canada ? This country who arrest people in some other country because they wrote a software to see the DVD they just bought ? Who may dare to make them angry ? But, you are right, maybe a special distro for each country. Maybe a partnership with a local reseller ? > > There is no freeware dvd player on windows, even if everyone use > > cracked ones. > > Most DVD drives come with DVD playing software for windows. Yes, but this is the same as Winzip. Everyone wants to use THE dvd software everyone is talking about. All my room-mates use PowerDvd, even the one who have a licence for WinDVD. Some of them had probleme with WinDVD, some others wanted some fonctionnality. > IMHO, OpenOffice.org is good enough, just missing better db support > (Access-alike) and video support in impress. OpenOffice could be far better, as i stated before, it lacks templates ( out of the box, I had to take the one given by StarOffice5.2 ). And, it still need memory. I don't know if all business have very up to date with their hardware, but the ones i have seen didn't... But, maybe it doesn't matter, they may change their hardware at the same time they change the software... > Depends. Some needs to be changed heavily. Yes, but, only those who touch to the system, I think. > You could have fooled most of our university admin staff ... MMh, sorry, i don't understand. I will take this as a compliment. By talking of university, is the free software situation as bad in my old school ? We only had Windows NT, and some old sparc station. And some students in a engineer school in France were not happy about that situation, ( in their school ). If students see that Linux is not 'a black command line for psychotic computer freaks', it would change a lot. Even teacher don't know linux. I mean, they still believe that vim/emacs and gcc. Some still use vi ( have nothing against vi, but vim is far better ). This is not their faults, we all discover some new things about free software each days.. Software is not the only probleme, reputation is another one. Mick
[Cooker] Geramik uploaded to incoming
For those that haven't noticed: http://news.kde.org/1037348700/ there's a new Gtk theme to match KDE 3.1's Keramik, and it gets its color and font settings from your KDE/Qt settings. I've packaged and uploaded Geramik-0.03-1mdk.src.rpm to ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming Enjoy! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] mplayer in main ?
Stephane SOPPERA wrote: Thirdly, mplayer has a great OSD ;-) (ok this one is not a very objective argument ;-) Hmm, not really that great :-( - unlike Xine, I cannot recode subtitles on the fly (I am talking about charsets). Thus, if I have subtitles in WIN1250 encoding, and want to display them in ISO-8859-2 (Linux), no go. Xine - no problem. Also, try to change font encoding for subtitles - crash :-( - gmplayer does not respect GNOME panels and *ALWAYS* starts in bottom right corner behind my gnome panel. Annoying. But to be fair, here we go: - neither can play this movie http://www.trisestry.cz/Video/Tri_sestry_Pijanovka.mpg. Both core dumps, still old good xanim plays this fine ;-) - neither allows me to specify subtitles for DivX movie (those pesky *.sub files). mplayer does only autodetection, no GUI, but will not allow me to recode. xine only allows me to specify subtitles via command line, no GUI. - xine preferences dialog is really something horrible :-( - the fancy GUI is also not that great, rather confusing, in both, although I belive there is a skin for gmplayer that is reasonably simple and plain. I hope apps like totem will be able to provide a non-fancy interface for me, but none of the apps are there yet as well (I tried sinek, totem, vlc-gnome). All in all, both xine and mplayer are still not there yet. Both did not arrive to 1.0 version yet, though. So until then, no perfect video player for Linux, at least for my needs. Until then, flamewars like this are mostly pointless from my point of view. Michal
Re: [Cooker] mrproject segfaults
--- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:57:14 -0800, David Walser > wrote: > > > Up to date with yesterday's Cooker. mrproject > segfaults (pops up a Gnome > > segfault message when you try to start it). Was > also true like a week > > ago, a couple weeks ago it worked. > > Duplicated here : it seems to be a freetype2 bug.. > > Until it is fixed, try running mrproject using > GDK_USE_XFT=0 Great, thanks! That works. Just a heads up if you rebuild mrproject anytime soon, it's now failing due to unpackaged files. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] kernel-enterprise-2.4.19.18mdk-1-1mdk(or -smp) and ACPI support -> on smp system cpu on first cpu goes up
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Only for info...;o) today I had time to try with kernel2.4.20-rc1 (linux-2.4.19.tar.gz + patch-2.4.20-rc1.gz)... I take .configure ~ from kernel-enterprise-2.4.19.18mdk-1-1mdkcompiled and installed.and now I have correct behaviour !;o) NO MORE HIGH SYSTEM CPU (and little more speed...;o) after more than a week with first sys-cpu always at more than 90% doing nothing cuand good workor may be good weekend(all togheter is better)...;o) - Linux Version 2.4.20-rc1HalfCat, Compiled #2 SMP Fri Nov 15 19:32:10 CET 2002 Two 1.98GHz Intel Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.00GHz Processors, 1024M RAM, 7890.52 Bogomips Total - --- 19:59:01 up 4 min, 25 users, load average: 1.40, 0.70, 0.27 105 processes: 103 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU0: 0.1% user 0.0% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 99.8% idle <===NO MORE HIGH SYSTEM CPU CPU1: 0.0% user 0.3% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 99.6% idle===doing nothing Mem: 1033096k av, 241444k used, 791652k free, 0k shrd,9188k buff 50972k active, 157088k inactive Swap: 1052216k av, 0k used, 1052216k free 104940k cached - - On Wednesday 06 November 2002 09:49, Franco Silvestro wrote: > I wrote that because I noticed for days (from time I installed -18 > kernel...) that first cpu (only first...?... and with gkrellm is much > evident) stay always on high system-cpu on my dual xeon machine( compaq evo > w8000, the only test smp I've) also when I really do nothing (and in > that time I expect cpus about 99% idle...) ...I thinked about some kind > of bad thread management in smp environment with new modules/new kernel > version (on my single cpu system laptop I haven't that behaviour with > -18...doing nothing, cpu stay normally on 99% idle) > > Now I've tried compile(nessus2 and nessus3 at the same time) on -16 > enterprise and see below I've 100% used on both cpusand after > compile ending both cpus return at ~99% idle it seems correct.no?(I > haven't noticed on my previous email that 0% idle in top output.really > strange !?!): > > during compile: > 08:31:23 up 20:09, 24 users, load average: 0.43, 0.21, 0.34 > 103 processes: 101 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped > 09:21:06 up 20:59, 24 users, load average: 0.71, 0.27, 0.13 > 114 processes: 108 sleeping, 5 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped > CPU0: 76.5% user 23.6% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 0.0% idle > CPU1: 74.9% user 25.0% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 0.0% idle > Mem: 1033364k av, 1009132k used, 24232k free, 0k shrd, 33892k > buff 280652k active, 615408k inactive > Swap: 1052216k av,4064k used, 1048152k free 744316k > cached > > after compile: > 08:31:23 up 20:09, 24 users, load average: 0.43, 0.21, 0.34 > 103 processes: 101 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped > 09:21:06 up 20:59, 24 users, load average: 0.71, 0.27, 0.13 > 114 processes: 108 sleeping, 5 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped > 09:37:48 up 21:16, 24 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.06 > 102 processes: 101 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped > CPU0: 0.3% user 0.3% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 99.2% idle > CPU1: 0.7% user 0.5% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 98.6% idle > Mem: 1033364k av, 1005420k used, 27944k free, 0k shrd, 33836k > buff 285716k active, 606620k inactive > Swap: 1052216k av,4064k used, 1048152k free 744048k > cached ...cuand good work;o) > > On Tuesday 05 November 2002 20:57, Todd Lyons wrote: > > Franco Silvestro wrote on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:24:39PM +0100 : > > > I see that with last kernel-enterprise (doing nothing), very high > > > system cpu: CPU0: 0.5% user 84.4% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait > > > 14.9% idle CPU1: 9.5% user 10.9% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait > > > 79.4% idle [...] > > You've highlighted something I saw on another machine. Notice how on > > the .16mdk the numbers don't add up? Even in a heavy compile, the > > numbers won't add up to 100%. There seems to be some kind of scaling > > that is happening. > > > > Blue skies... Todd - -- Franco Silvestro - Servizio di Sicurezza reti e dati c/o CeSIA - Alma Mater Studiorum - Universita' di Bologna 'lynx -source http://www.reti.unibo.it/FrancoSilvestro.asc | gpg --import' Key fingerprint = 3145 1309 C5D8 7B3F 2582 44D2 91BB ACAB E010 ABF9 Current Linux uptime: 0 hours 6 minutes. - - Fri Nov 15 20:01:04 CET 2002 - - Linux 2.4.20-rc1HalfCat GNU/Linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE91Ul+kbusq+AQq/kRAn5sA
Re: [Cooker] maradns uploaded
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:27:58 +0100 Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've uploaded the src.rpmn for maradns to /incoming. Uploaded a 2mdk too. %changelog * Fri Nov 15 2002 Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.0.09-2mdk - whoops, change mkdirhier to mkdir -p [cc'd to lenny and vdanen] -- Marcel Pol Linux 2.4.19-18mdk-ringworld.1, up 4 days, 20:41 Registered User #163523
[Cooker] maradns uploaded
Hello, I've uploaded the src.rpmn for maradns to /incoming. It's also available from http://chaosmongers.org/download/Mandrake/SRPMS Besides the things mentioned in the changelog, I ran into the issue that when I upgrade the rpm with rpm dirtectly, it doesn't bark about the userdel/useradd scripts, but using urpmi it does complain that the user/group already exists. I assume it doesn't run the postun script. Name: maradns Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.0.09Vendor: (none) Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri 15 Nov 2002 08:13:54 PM CET Install date: Fri 15 Nov 2002 08:20:10 PM CET Build Host: localhost Group : System/ServersSource RPM: maradns-1.0.09-1mdk.src.rpm Size: 1550209 License: public domain Packager: Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.maradns.org Summary : An authoritative and recursive DNS server made with security in mind Description : MaraDNS is an authoritative and recursive DNS server made with security in mind. More information is at http://www.maradns.org %changelog * Fri Nov 15 2002 Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.0.09-1mdk - first Mandrake build, used specfile from original package - split initscript into initscript and sysconfig files - add chkconfig lines to initscript - install 3 mararc files, and use the recursive as default - patch1 changes timeout from 2 sec. to 6 sec. - I simply don't understand the rpm-helper scripts for useradd/userdel - right now recursive queries are allowed from 0.0.0.0/0, that's wise? [cc'd to lenny and vdanen] Greetings, -- Marcel Pol Linux 2.4.19-18mdk-ringworld.1, up 4 days, 20:41 Registered User #163523
Re: [Cooker] mplayer in main ?
> > I've tested xine on Mdk 9.0: in my opinion it's still slow to open a > > fill, slow to navigate throw a video, and quite buggy. The configuration > > menu is really horrible and very difficult to understand. > > I really prefer MPlayer: fast, simple; it's far better than every video > > players that can be found on windows (it's one of the opensource > > application we can find on linux that make a good impression on windows > > users). Whereas xine is worse that Windows Media Player in terms of > > speed/stability/functionnalities. > > Odd, it's always been more or less exactly the same speed as mplayer for > me. If you don't like the interface it has several skins, and there's > both QT and (three) GTK front-ends to the xine libs (kxine, sinek, > totem, and gnome-xine), which you can't say about mplayer... I'm not talking about skins, but about the configuration dialog that opens when you start the program the first time (the one with the complex interface with audio/video/...); and also the dialog to open file is not very clear (you have to click file before you can see the list of files; and this list isn't very usable. Moreover I've noticed bugs while using the mousewheel). And I'm not talking about the speed when reading a movie (on my computer there's no differences since I've got XV acceleration), but about the time you have to wait before it plays the films and the time you have to wait when you navigate quickly in the movie (two things which are very impressive with mplayer). I'm not using a GUI for mplayer; it's a lot easier to run it from command line or to attach it to the .avi and .mpg types: then you just have to click on the files you want to read in nautilus/konqueror/... to play them. My point is about speed (navigation and loading) and stability (I've noticed more bugs in xine than in mplayer); and not about the skins. Since I'm not the only one to have noticed that (even friends which are not using mainly linux are impressed by mplayer (and would like a software like this for windows) but dislike xine) I think mplayer should be included in Mandrake if there are no legal problems (I'm not sure about this). ;-) And I have to disagree with you on what you said first ;-): "Xine does just about everything mplayer does..." Firstly, I've used the -aspect option of mplayer a lot and that's a very important option for some movies. I didn't find this option for xine. (I know that's a detail; but that's an important details for some clips) Secondly, xine does not impress the windows users I know; but mplayer does. ;-) (that's very subjective but I think that's important) Thirdly, mplayer has a great OSD ;-) (ok this one is not a very objective argument ;-) -- Stephane SOPPERA http://stephane.soppera.free.fr
Re: [Cooker] mplayer in main ?
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 16:54, Stephane SOPPERA wrote: > > Xine does just about everything mplayer does... > > I've tested xine on Mdk 9.0: in my opinion it's still slow to open a > fill, slow to navigate throw a video, and quite buggy. The configuration > menu is really horrible and very difficult to understand. > I really prefer MPlayer: fast, simple; it's far better than every video > players that can be found on windows (it's one of the opensource > application we can find on linux that make a good impression on windows > users). Whereas xine is worse that Windows Media Player in terms of > speed/stability/functionnalities. Odd, it's always been more or less exactly the same speed as mplayer for me. If you don't like the interface it has several skins, and there's both QT and (three) GTK front-ends to the xine libs (kxine, sinek, totem, and gnome-xine), which you can't say about mplayer... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] HPT372 problems.
Hi, This is a known problem with Linux kernel versions 2.4.18 and 2.4.19: the HPT372 is not adequately supported, even though it is recognized. A proprietary driver is available from HPT's Web site, and it works, but it's awkward to install. The problem is **not** Mandrake specific at all and there is little that the Mandrake team can do to remedy it at this stage. Solution: write to HPT a polite email asking them to open the source code for their 372 driver. After the 1000th email they receive I imagine they'll begin to understand... -- Andrew D. Balsa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] qt3-3.1.0-2mdk
Any idea of when qt3 will be rebuilt to re-enable AA in KDE? Just wondering... Scott Laurent MONTEL wrote: --=-=-= Name: qt3 Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 3.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Build Date: Wed Nov 13 20:00:06 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group : System/Libraries Source RPM: (none) Size: 13418564 License: GPL and QPL Packager: Mandrake Linux KDE Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.troll.no/ Summary : Qt3 - Sources Description : Qt is a complete and well-designed multi-platform object-oriented framework for developing graphical user interface (GUI) applications using C++. Qt has seamless integration with OpenGL/Mesa 3D libraries. Qt is free for development of free software on the X Window System. It includes the complete source code for the X version and makefiles for Linux, Solaris, SunOS, FreeBSD, OSF/1, Irix, BSD/OS, NetBSD, SCO, HP-UX and AIX. This edition of Qt may be modified and distributed under the terms found in the LICENSE.QPL file. Qt also supports Windows 95 and NT, with native look and feel. Code developed for the X version of Qt can be recompiled and run using the Windows 95/NT version of Qt, and vice versa. Qt is currently used in hundreds of software development projects world wide, including the K Desktop Environment (see http://www.kde.org). For more examples, see http://www.trolltech.com/qtprogs.html. Qt has excellent documentation: around 750 pages of postscript and fully cross-referenced online html documentation. It is available on the web: http://doc.trolltech.com/ Qt is easy to learn, with consistent naming across all the classes and a 14-chapter on-line tutorial with links into the rest of the documentation. A number of 3rd-party books are also available. Qt dramatically cuts down on development time and complexity in writing user interface software for the X Window System. It allows the programmer to focus directly on the programming task, and not mess around with low-level Motif/X11 code. Qt is fully object-oriented. All widgets and dialogs are C++ objects, and, using inheritance, creation of new widgets is easy and natural. Qt's revolutionary signal/slot mechanism provides true component programming. Reusable components can work together without any knowledge of each other, and in a type-safe way. Qt has a very fast paint engine, in some cases ten times faster than other toolkits. The X version is based directly on Xlib and uses neither Motif nor X Intrinsics. Qt is available under two different licenses: - The Qt Professional Edition License, for developing fully commercial software: see http://www.trolltech.com/pricing.html - The Q Public License (QPL), for developing free software (X Window System only). --=-=-= * Wed Nov 13 2002 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3.1.0-2mdk - Add patch9 : Fix qwidget bug : "It fixes child windows being hidden randomly."
Re: [Cooker] mplayer in main ?
> Xine does just about everything mplayer does... I've tested xine on Mdk 9.0: in my opinion it's still slow to open a fill, slow to navigate throw a video, and quite buggy. The configuration menu is really horrible and very difficult to understand. I really prefer MPlayer: fast, simple; it's far better than every video players that can be found on windows (it's one of the opensource application we can find on linux that make a good impression on windows users). Whereas xine is worse that Windows Media Player in terms of speed/stability/functionnalities. -- Stephane SOPPERA http://stephane.soppera.free.fr
[Cooker] python 2.2.2 ?
Hi!
The python release 2.2.2 is out since about a month. Please update it!
I took 2.2.1-13mdk spec file (a while ago), the only small change was
(besides update to python and html-2.2.2.tar.bz2), that you have to
remove from python-2.2-base.list the line:
%{_libdir}/python2.2/lib-dynload/errnomodule.so
because it's now statically linked by default.
I haven't yet tried the new patches (-mdk14/15), admittedly.
Ralf.
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Scherer wrote: >>Hello? quicktime movie in powerpoint? Do you never give presentations >>which need animations? Engineering shops need this. > > I'm sorry, I 'm just a student. And I do presentations, but never so > sophisticated. > > >>DivX could also be useful in this regard, and I am sure there are >>business applications for being able to play encrypted DVDs you own >>(training material). > > You can read this on linux. You canread quick time, you can read real player > and flash. > You can even read dvd. > But the point is to develop a opensource dvd player is not possible, thanks to > movie maker. > Not impossible, just illegal in some countries. It's legal here (for example). > But what about a closed source dvd player, a commercial one. It seems that the DVD makers don't want linux users to buy DVDs. They don't make it possible for linux users to legally watch any DVDs in some countries. > There is no freeware dvd player on windows, even if everyone use cracked ones. Most DVD drives come with DVD playing software for windows. > > So , what is missing ? > A office suite ? > There is good ones, and not only opensource. > Applixware, Hancom office, all theses. > > You can read proprietary format, thanks to commercial plugins. > > Of course, you must pay, but, Microsft Office, Photoshop aren't freeware IMHO, OpenOffice.org is good enough, just missing better db support (Access-alike) and video support in impress. > > And of course, it may cost more to have a trained Unix sysadmin, but someone > who use windows in order to underpay his admin is stupid. > > > >>If business didn't need multimedia, Windows Media player wouldn't be in >>Windows 2000 Pro. > > Maybe because Microsoft tried to make his software become standard, so, what > is the point of not giving WMP on Windows 2000, if it is avaliable on the > other versions. W9x software runs on W2000, no ? don't ned any recompilation, > i think... > Depends. Some needs to be changed heavily. > And, the same idea could applies to windows95 and personal Web server. Even if > it not installed by default, Microsoft ships a webserver with windows 9x. > Now, i don't think that a home user needs a web server, especially this one... > So, it is not because it is shiped by default that there is a strong need. > Winmine.exe and sol.exe are shipped with every versions of windows, don't they > they are so important for business. You could have fooled most of our university admin staff ... Buchan - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE91SNXrJK6UGDSBKcRAgkfAKCM+NLH0RtCzBAWqWPnH9namR/AQwCbBHWE kS/HuSnz3/pQoCLZ296UUsE= =aSDf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] ksetispy-0.5.2-1mdk
On Friday 15 November 2002 10:31, Lenny Cartier wrote: > [Contrib-RPM] > > --=-=-= > Name: ksetispy Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.5.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Nov 15 12:29:32 > 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: > bi.mandrakesoft.com Group : Sciences/AstronomySource RPM: > (none) > Size: 1209169 License: GPL > Packager: Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > URL : http://ksetispy.sourceforge.net/ > Summary : A KDE2 SETI@home monitoring tool > Description : > KSetiSpy is a KDE3 utility that monitors the progress of the SETI@home > client, and displays all kinds of information about the work unit(s) being > processed. It uses the same interface as SETI Spy, a popular Windows > utility. KDE2 or KDE3? -- Denis
[Cooker] Re: Open APM failed
Juan Quintela wrote: echo "1 0 15" > /proc/sys/kernel/swsuspend and told me where it stops. Nothing happens Another question, are you inside X when you start the suspend? There are some problems with suspend from inside X, on some chips, working on them. Makes no difference.
Re: [Cooker] contribs repositeries are too unknowns
> Can we possibly get some poeple together to maintain this? Would a Wiki > (or something similar) work? Could we extract it as static html to go in > a package (and get it into main)? For documentation, another good idea would be to have localized book mark. there is good french sites on linux, but the bookmarks of the web browser are all in english :( Mick
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]
> Hello? quicktime movie in powerpoint? Do you never give presentations > which need animations? Engineering shops need this. I'm sorry, I 'm just a student. And I do presentations, but never so sophisticated. > DivX could also be useful in this regard, and I am sure there are > business applications for being able to play encrypted DVDs you own > (training material). You can read this on linux. You canread quick time, you can read real player and flash. You can even read dvd. But the point is to develop a opensource dvd player is not possible, thanks to movie maker. But what about a closed source dvd player, a commercial one. There is no freeware dvd player on windows, even if everyone use cracked ones. So , what is missing ? A office suite ? There is good ones, and not only opensource. Applixware, Hancom office, all theses. You can read proprietary format, thanks to commercial plugins. Of course, you must pay, but, Microsft Office, Photoshop aren't freeware And of course, it may cost more to have a trained Unix sysadmin, but someone who use windows in order to underpay his admin is stupid. > If business didn't need multimedia, Windows Media player wouldn't be in > Windows 2000 Pro. Maybe because Microsoft tried to make his software become standard, so, what is the point of not giving WMP on Windows 2000, if it is avaliable on the other versions. W9x software runs on W2000, no ? don't ned any recompilation, i think... And, the same idea could applies to windows95 and personal Web server. Even if it not installed by default, Microsoft ships a webserver with windows 9x. Now, i don't think that a home user needs a web server, especially this one... So, it is not because it is shiped by default that there is a strong need. Winmine.exe and sol.exe are shipped with every versions of windows, don't they they are so important for business. Mick
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] speaker3-0.5-1mdk
Am Freitag, 15. November 2002, 17:11:24 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne: > This requires festival, but festival is not in contibs, though it is > currently in PLF for some reason: > AFAIK, only one voice is not free enough to be in, festival itself is > AFAIK more or less BSD, and british and american voices are public domain. Yes, festival is under a BSD licence. Can you try to rip out the not free voice out and test if it still works then? > Can festival go into contribs? Otherwise this package should go to PLF. Maybe we could put the full festival in plf and a stripped version in contribs. -- Götz Waschk <> master of computer science <> University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key --> Logout Fascism! <--
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] speaker3-0.5-1mdk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lenny Cartier wrote: > [Contrib-RPM] > > --=-=-= > Name: speaker3 Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 1mdk Build Date: Wed Nov 13 11:54:03 2002 > Install date: (not installed) Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com > Group : Graphical desktop/KDE Source RPM: (none) > Size: 369122 License: GPL > Packager: Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > URL : http://dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org/~grrussel/speaker.html > Summary : A text to speech synthesizer for Konqueror > Description : > This plugin for konqueror will read aloud webpages, or > portions thereof, with the festival speech system. This requires festival, but festival is not in contibs, though it is currently in PLF for some reason: /plf/9.0/./i586/festival-1.4.2-3plf.i586.rpm AFAIK, only one voice is not free enough to be in, festival itself is AFAIK more or less BSD, and british and american voices are public domain. Can festival go into contribs? Otherwise this package should go to PLF. And if festival is going to be in, can gpsdrive be built with festival support (if that is necessary). Regards, Buchan - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE91Q6brJK6UGDSBKcRAk7+AJwPnHg/wouU7ozrRnmE/MZgA5CL1ACgzK4Z 2b32oSyC3WAbxtKECnI3hQM= =2U2j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] First Time Wizard won't use BB as default
"Forest C. Adcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The First time Wizard will not set BlackBox as the default Window Manager on > my machine. Is this a problem more than I myself have seen, or is it just a > problem with my install? Any ideas as to how to fix that problem and set > BlackBox as my default? It works for me (tm).
[Cooker] as were are in contribs <-> main moves
It could be greet if a video edit software (as linux video studio or other) can be in main distro. Video edit is an important feature for multimedia. Thanks, Florent PS : for moves, think feature before particular software please and put the best / more evolved in main. I think we can vote for software in it's wanted.
Re: [Cooker] Mesa-4.0.3-6mdk: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found
Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/alpha/Mesa-4.0.3-6mdk.src.rpm.txt > > RPM build errors: > Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl_mangle.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glext.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glutf90.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glx.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glx_mangle.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glxext.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/xmesa.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/xmesa_x.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/xmesa_xf86.h It is normal for this one, XFree86-devel provide them (and we rely on the version provided by XFree instead, even if older). François.
Re: [Cooker] Me Too: Lost AA & Outright broken postscript generationre Hebrew
On Friday 15 November 2002 04:50, R. Scott Chevalley wrote: > yes, libqt3 is not linked to any of the libXft.so versions. I'm using > the xft2 patched b2.4 and it's working okay. I don't have the patience > to recompile the new rpms with the patch.. I'm just hoping it's fixed > soon... :) The QT configure script just isn't able to detect neither the include files for Xft nor the Xft2 library. Several changes here and there, and it works. The Postscript generation for Hebrew fonts is OUTRIGHT BROKEN, too. The fonts are just not embedded correctly, and ghostscript just shows squares instead of characters, whether font embedding is turned on or off. When font embedding is on, only "Verdana" font gets embedded instead of all the fonts used in the document, and Hebrew glyphs are just NOT EMBEDDED at all. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] xchat 1.8.10
"skidley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why isn't there an xchat 1.8.10 rpm in cooker? It's been out since aug. 7 [daouda@no SOURCES]$ upcook ../SRPMS/xchat-1.8.10-1mdk.src.rpm xchat-1.8.10-1mdk.sr 100% |**| 838 KB00:00 [daouda@no SOURCES]$ To be tested!
Re: [Cooker] mplayer in main ?
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 13:53, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 12:41, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > Now that i had some success with other transfer requests, what about the > > ultimate multimedia player under linux, aka mplayer ? > > > > It is not the most politically correct package, for sure, but it is legaly > > clean (otherwise it won't even be in contrib), and its presence in main would > > definitevely boost mdk on desktop. > > Xine does just about everything mplayer does... 1. thisway mandrake could drop gnome/kde 2. there are many things that mplayer does but xine does not ( and vice versa )... ogm support for example bye, gabor -- gpg key at www.keyserver.net
[Cooker] Can't locate printer/detect.pm in harddrake2
# harddrake2 modprobe: Can't locate module serial modprobe: Can't locate module serial Please wait while probing serial ports... Can't locate printer/detect.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/data.pm line 49.
Re: [Cooker] mplayer in main ?
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 12:41, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Now that i had some success with other transfer requests, what about the > ultimate multimedia player under linux, aka mplayer ? > > It is not the most politically correct package, for sure, but it is legaly > clean (otherwise it won't even be in contrib), and its presence in main would > definitevely boost mdk on desktop. Xine does just about everything mplayer does... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] mplayer in main ?
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 13:41, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Now that i had some success with other transfer requests, what about the > ultimate multimedia player under linux, aka mplayer ? > > It is not the most politically correct package, for sure, but it is legaly > clean (otherwise it won't even be in contrib), and its presence in main would > definitevely boost mdk on desktop. what do you mean with "not the most politically correct package"? gabor -- gpg key at www.keyserver.net
[Cooker] wireless-tools package incomplete
I cannot compile kwirelessmanager on Mandrake 9.0 because there is no iwlib.h. This file is not provided by any packages that I can find rpmdrake. Most distribution (redhat, suse etc. I checked rpmfind) include this file in the wireless-tools package, but Mandrake does not. Is there a reason for this? I believe its a bug, and that wireless-tools need to be updated to include this header file (in cooker). g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wbad-function-cast -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -c -o kwirelessmanager.o `test -f 'kwirelessmanager.cpp' || echo './'`kwirelessmanager.cpp In file included from kwirelessmanager.cpp:19: wirelessinfoengine.h:18:19: iwlib.h: No such file or directory thanks, Nick -- Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] mplayer in main ?
Now that i had some success with other transfer requests, what about the ultimate multimedia player under linux, aka mplayer ? It is not the most politically correct package, for sure, but it is legaly clean (otherwise it won't even be in contrib), and its presence in main would definitevely boost mdk on desktop. -- No matter how good of a deal you get on computer components, the price will always drop immediately after the purchase. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°7
[Cooker] Harddrake and Drakconf problem with Cisco PCI Wireless Aironet Card
My Cisco PCI Wireless Aironet Card is listed in Harddrake as; Vendor: AIRONET Wireless Communications Bus: PCI Bus identification: 14b9:350 Location on the bus: 0:d:0 Description: Module: airo Media class: NETWORK_OTHER I cannot configure its wireless properties from the lan configuration tool in drakconf. I have to manually enter them into ifcfg-ethX. I believe its Media Class above is wrong. Is there a NETWORK_WIRELESS class? If so I believe it needs be changed for this device. Will this then allow me to configure its wireless properties (SSID, KEY etc) from drakconf? As, a seperate question, does the lan configuration tool in drakconf allow you to configure wireless cards wirless properties if it correctly identifies them as wireless cards? thanks, Nick -- Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] rpm-4.0.4-20mdk: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
Le Jeudi 14 Novembre 2002 20:33, Ben Reser a écrit : > Unfortunately, so many times people upload packages without bother to > even test them. Are you suggesting PLF peoples should actually test their package before uploading? You're crazy, they are far too many rootkits inside :-) -- All components become obsolete. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°8
Re: [Cooker] Incoherencies among perl DBD packages
Le Vendredi 15 Novembre 2002 11:39, Warly a écrit : > > Latest one should be named perl-DBD-Mysql, > > This is questionable: > > [mandrake@ken mandrake]$ rpm -qlp /RPMS/perl-DBD-Pg-1.01-4mdk.i586.rpm > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/DBD/Pg.pm > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/DBD/dbd-pg.pod > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so > > [...] > > [mandrake@ken mandrake]$ rpm -qlp /RPMS/perl-Mysql-1.22_19-5mdk.i586.rpm > /usr/bin/dbimon > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Bundle/DBD/mysql.p >m /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/DBD/mysql.pm > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Mysql.pm > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Mysql/Statement.pm > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/DBD/mysql/mys >ql.so > > [...] > > perl-Mysql contains /Mysql.pm alongside with DBD/mysql.pm I don't know what is exactly is Mysql.pm. I guess it is some generic perl library for mysql access, as Pg.pl from libpgperl seems to be. Anyway, there should be a perl-DBD-Mysql package, containing only the Mysql DBI driver. -- Disks are always full. It is futile to try to get more disk space. Data expands to fill any void. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°4
[Cooker] HPT372 problems.
i don't have dsl connection home so i cannot follow cooker closely, but i would like to contribute in improving the support for my hardware, not to wait for 9.1 ! I hope just using the new kernel and related stuff (kernel-headers, and so on) from the 9.0 distribution is still close enough for helping you find what is wrong : On my ABIT KX7-333R, i have a fat32 system and ext2 on hde, which is on the raid controller (just used as an additionnal ide channel) and when i try to access this drive (neither fat nor ext2), i get from /var/log/messages : kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 161 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 162 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 163 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 164 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 165 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 166 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 167 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 168 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 169 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 170 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 171 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 172 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 173 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 174 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 175 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 128 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 129 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 130 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 131 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 132 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 133 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 134 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 21:01 (hde), sector 135 Here is part of the dmesg : Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 89 PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:11.1. Please try using pci=biosirq. VP_IDE: chipset revision 6 VP_IDE: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later VP_IDE: VIA vt8233a (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci00:11.1 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xc800-0xc807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xc808-0xc80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA HPT372: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 98 HPT372: chipset revision 5 HPT372: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later HPT370: using 33MHz PCI clock ide2: BM-DMA at 0xe400-0xe407, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio ide3: BM-DMA at 0xe408-0xe40f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio hda: Maxtor 5T030H3, ATA DISK drive hdc: Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPIModel DVD-104S 012, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: LITE-ON LTR-40125S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hde: IBM-DJNA-371350, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 ide2 at 0xd400-0xd407,0xd802 on irq 10 hda: 60030432 sectors (30736 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=3736/255/63, UDMA(100) hde: 26520480 sectors (13578 MB) w/1966KiB Cache, CHS=26310/16/63, UDMA(66) Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 p7 > /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0:<6> [PTBL] [1650/255/63] p1 p2 < p5 > RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. lspcidrake && lspci -vv : unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8367 [KT266] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8367 [KT266 AGP] bttv: Brooktree Corporation|Bt848 TV with DMA push snd-emu10k1 : Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) emu10k1-gp : Creative Labs|SB Live! (joystick) unknown : VIA Technologies Inc|VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB hptraid : Triones|HPT366 Card:NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic): nVidia Corporation|NV11 (Geforce2 MX) unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Virtual|Hub [] 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266] Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- Reset- FastB2B- Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- 00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt848 Video Capture (rev 12) Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr
Re: DNS (was: Re: [Cooker] WTF?)
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:30:09 -0700 Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 06:27 AM, Marcel Pol wrote: > > I like maradns, and I've been playing with it for a while now. > > I've been trying out different configfiles now, but I'm not completely > > happy > > with that and the packaging, therefore I haven't uploaded it yet. > > What's wrong with the packaging? I'll admit, I haven't looked at it > yet. Out of all the contendors, Dents and MaraDNS looked the best, so > I was thinking of packaging them for contribs myself. But if you've > got more experience with it, then please feel free. Actually I found the default config files a bit of a mess. I'd like to have a package with 3 configfiles, mararc.recursive, mararc.authorative and mararc.full, where /etc/sysconfig/maradns or the initscript defaults to the recursive configfile. I have been using the 1.0 version for some time. In the 1.1 tree the configfiles were remade a bit like this, so maybe I should look into that. I should be able to figure it out. Also the initscript is rather complex to me, and I was a bit stuck on it. It doesn't run daemonized, but with bash job control, and it can start several processes. I forgot what exactly, but there were some things I wanted to change, but it was over my head. I could make it a learning experience then, or let it be as it is, and upload it to contribs with the default initscript. > Quite frankly, I'd like to see another DNS server in main. We phased > out wu-ftpd as the defacto FTP server with proftpd... I'd like to see > something take the place of bind as well. If, for nothing else, then > as a caching-nameserver so that BIND doesn't need to be installed at > all. Ok, good to know. I had it running for some time now on my local network, and it seems rather functional for me. I don't have a heavy setup with ipv6, ipsec keys or whatever, so I'm not sure how the features compare to bind. But just on recursive and authorative I have good experience with it. -- Marcel Pol Linux 2.4.19-18mdk-ringworld.1, up 4 days, 13:41 Registered User #163523
[Cooker] Re: Open APM failed
> "pascal" == Pascal Terjan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: pascal> Pascal Terjan wrote: >> Juan Quintela wrote: >> >>> Backup your data. >>> echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep >>> >> Doesn't work >> $ cat /proc/acpi/sleep >> S0 S1 S3 S4 S5 >> Only 1 and 5 do something >> 1 freezes the machine until I use the power button (which is the >> right behaviour, I think) but I don't know if it's normal that the >> screen stay on ? >> 5 power-off immediatly the machine (right behaviour I think) >> pascal> Now it's worse. pascal> echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep pascal> never finish and the shell can't be killed and uses 100% of CPU as pascal> system time until I reboot. pascal> Another very important point is that fan don't start automatically pascal> when CPU gets hot (it was 80°C when I decided to reboot without ACPI) try: echo "1 0 15" > /proc/sys/kernel/swsuspend and told me where it stops. Another question, are you inside X when you start the suspend? There are some problems with suspend from inside X, on some chips, working on them. Later, Juan. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
[Cooker] kernel 2.4.19-19 oops in alsa snd-pcm using gnomemeeting
Hello I had the following reproductible kernel oops while using gnomemeeting. Start: artswrapper gnomemeeting Receive a call ==> oops Pascal ksymoops 2.4.5 on i686 2.4.19-19mdkenterprise. Options used -V (default) -k /proc/ksyms (default) -l /proc/modules (default) -o /lib/modules/2.4.19-19mdkenterprise/ (default) -m /boot/System.map-2.4.19-19mdkenterprise (default) Warning: You did not tell me where to find symbol information. I will assume that the log matches the kernel and modules that are running right now and I'll use the default options above for symbol resolution. If the current kernel and/or modules do not match the log, you can get more accurate output by telling me the kernel version and where to find map, modules, ksyms etc. ksymoops -h explains the options. Warning (compare_ksyms_lsmod): module reiserfs is in lsmod but not in ksyms, probably no symbols exported Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 000c Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: e0b3ec1d Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: *pde = Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: Oops: Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: CPU:0 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: EIP:0010:[reiserfs+545635709/763035648]Not tainted Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: EIP:0010:[]Not tainted Using defaults from ksymoops -t elf32-i386 -a i386 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: EFLAGS: 00210286 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: eax: dfb1ea00 ebx: ecx: e0b46ee0 edx: de1aade0 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: esi: edi: ebp: ce8a2680 esp: cc9fde24 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: Process gnomemeeting (pid: 10593, stackpage=cc9fd000) Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: Stack: c02cd0a0 00200246 c02cec30 c02cedd0 de1aade0 e0b3ed52 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: dfee09c8 dfee e0b47ca3 de1aade0 de1aade0 de1aade0 de1aade0 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel:dad74000 e0b9a500 de1aade0 fff5 0001 ce8a2680 dfb1ea00 Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: Call Trace:[reiserfs+545636018/763035648] [reiserfs+545672707/763035648] [reiserfs+546010720/763035648] [reiserfs+546011325/763035648] [reiserfs+546011752/763035648] Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: Call Trace:[] [] [] [] [] Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: [] [] [] [] [] [] Nov 15 01:15:52 spirit kernel: Code: 8b 4b 0c 85 c9 74 40 8b 43 04 39 f0 7e 39 90 8d 74 26 00 8d >>EIP; e0b3ec1d <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+d/60> <= >>eax; dfb1ea00 <_end+1f77a5a8/20543c08> >>ecx; e0b46ee0 <[snd-emu10k1]snd_emu10k1_playback_hw_free+0/e0> >>edx; de1aade0 <_end+1de06988/20543c08> >>ebp; ce8a2680 <_end+e4fe228/20543c08> >>esp; cc9fde24 <_end+c6599cc/20543c08> Trace; e0b3ed52 <[snd-pcm]snd_pcm_sgbuf_delete+22/50> Trace; e0b47ca3 <[snd-emu10k1]snd_emu10k1_playback_close+33/60> Trace; e0b9a500 <[snd-pcm-oss]snd_pcm_oss_release_file+60/d0> Trace; e0b9a75d <[snd-pcm-oss]snd_pcm_oss_open_file+1ed/220> Trace; e0b9a908 <[snd-pcm-oss]snd_pcm_oss_open+178/2b0> Trace; c0155a4b Trace; c0184ac4 Trace; c0148323 Trace; c0148248 Trace; c0148623 Trace; c01094b7 Code; e0b3ec1d <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+d/60> <_EIP>: Code; e0b3ec1d <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+d/60> <= 0: 8b 4b 0c mov0xc(%ebx),%ecx <= Code; e0b3ec20 <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+10/60> 3: 85 c9 test %ecx,%ecx Code; e0b3ec22 <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+12/60> 5: 74 40 je 47 <_EIP+0x47> e0b3ec64 <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+54/60> Code; e0b3ec24 <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+14/60> 7: 8b 43 04 mov0x4(%ebx),%eax Code; e0b3ec27 <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+17/60> a: 39 f0 cmp%esi,%eax Code; e0b3ec29 <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+19/60> c: 7e 39 jle47 <_EIP+0x47> e0b3ec64 <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+54/60> Code; e0b3ec2b <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+1b/60> e: 90nop Code; e0b3ec2c <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+1c/60> f: 8d 74 26 00 lea0x0(%esi,1),%esi Code; e0b3ec30 <[snd-pcm]sgbuf_shrink+20/60> 13: 8d 00 lea(%eax),%eax 2 warnings issued. Results may not be reliable.
[Cooker] Re: Setup: bashrc doesn't quote user and group names
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is a problem when group names have a space, typical when Mandrake > is configured for winbind, returning windows group names like "Domain > Users", breaking this script, which things like wincvs don't like for > some reason. > > Please don't assume that usernames and groupnames will not have spaces > in them. > > Please apply this patch: > > --- bashrc.orig 2002-11-15 13:23:37.0 +0200 > +++ bashrc 2002-11-15 13:19:43.0 +0200 > @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ > > # by default, we want this to get set. > # Even for non-interactive, non-login shells. > -if [ `id -gn` = `id -un` -a `id -u` -gt 99 ]; then > +if [ "`id -gn`" = "`id -un`" -a `id -u` -gt 99 ]; then > umask 002 > else > umask 022 I will apply -- Warly
[Cooker] Setup: bashrc doesn't quote user and group names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is a problem when group names have a space, typical when Mandrake is configured for winbind, returning windows group names like "Domain Users", breaking this script, which things like wincvs don't like for some reason. Please don't assume that usernames and groupnames will not have spaces in them. Please apply this patch: - --- bashrc.orig 2002-11-15 13:23:37.0 +0200 +++ bashrc 2002-11-15 13:19:43.0 +0200 @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ # by default, we want this to get set. # Even for non-interactive, non-login shells. - -if [ `id -gn` = `id -un` -a `id -u` -gt 99 ]; then +if [ "`id -gn`" = "`id -un`" -a `id -u` -gt 99 ]; then umask 002 else umask 022 - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE91NpbrJK6UGDSBKcRAvHVAJ4+cHev6UBwbZnIqxO8a/y9IszV8QCfUXy+ sRdrjXGIUvFKF3LmtmgxW/g= =EBVU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libpcap-0.7.1-3mdk
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 16:19, Warly wrote: > --=-=-= > Name: libpcap Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.7.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 3mdk Build Date: Thu Nov 14 17:09:11 2002 > Install date: (not installed) Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com > Group : System/Libraries Source RPM: (none) > Size: 203244 License: BSD > Packager: Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > URL : http://www.tcpdump.org > Summary : A system-independent interface for user-level packet capture > Description : > Libpcap provides a portable framework for low-level network monitoring. > Libpcap can provide network statistics collection, security monitoring > and network debugging. Since almost every system vendor provides a > different interface for packet capture, the libpcap authors created this > system-independent API to ease in porting and to alleviate the need for > several system-dependent packet capture modules in each application. > > --=-=-= > > * Thu Nov 14 2002 Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.7.1-3mdk > > - use gz for sources to be able to check md5 IMPORTANT re this package: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/28105.html We don't have the trojaned version packaged, do we? -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Re: [QA] cooker main changes
Am Donnerstag, 14. November 2002, 11:36:15 Uhr MET, schrieb Levi Ramsey: > Uploaded to incoming: > Name: sawfish Relocations: (not > * Tue Nov 12 2002 Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.2-1mdk > - Release 1.2 I've uploaded my own packages for sawfish and rep-gtk to the contribs. I had to change some stuff to make it build. If you had changed anything besides the version number it was not in you changelog. -- Götz Waschk <> master of computer science <> University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key --> Logout Fascism! <--
Re: [Cooker] Package transfer request: bash completion
Pascal Terjan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Guillaume Rousse wrote: > >> This package should really be transfered from contrib to main. > > I holeheartly agree ! OK -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libpcap-0.7.1-3mdk
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 05:19:43PM +0100, Warly wrote: >> >> * Thu Nov 14 2002 Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.7.1-3mdk >> >> - use gz for sources to be able to check md5 > > I already went through and verrified all the packages yesterday. They > were all fine. Switching to gz really isn't necessary. Well, It may ease people that wanted to check their package is OK. Most of the package does not need to have gz instead of bz2, but sensible one such as servers should keep the original source tarball and md5. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Incoherencies among perl DBD packages
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In contribs: > perl-DBD-Pg > perl-DBD-CSV > > In main: > perl-Mysql > > Latest one should be named perl-DBD-Mysql, This is questionable: [mandrake@ken mandrake]$ rpm -qlp /RPMS/perl-DBD-Pg-1.01-4mdk.i586.rpm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/DBD/Pg.pm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/DBD/dbd-pg.pod /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/DBD/Pg/Pg.so [...] [mandrake@ken mandrake]$ rpm -qlp /RPMS/perl-Mysql-1.22_19-5mdk.i586.rpm /usr/bin/dbimon /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Bundle/DBD/mysql.pm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/DBD/mysql.pm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Mysql.pm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Mysql/Statement.pm /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.so [...] perl-Mysql contains /Mysql.pm alongside with DBD/mysql.pm > and perl-DBD-Pg should be in main Yes I agree. -- Warly
[Cooker] new shadow-utils
I updated shadow-utils to 4.0.3. This could lead to errors as I ported some patches which I do not know if they are still useful or not. Please report any strangenesses. -- Warly
Re: DNS (was: Re: [Cooker] WTF?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andre wrote: > On Thursday 14 November 2002 23:30, Vincent Danen wrote: > >>Quite frankly, I'd like to see another DNS server in main. We phased >>out wu-ftpd as the defacto FTP server with proftpd... I'd like to see >>something take the place of bind as well. If, for nothing else, then >>as a caching-nameserver so that BIND doesn't need to be installed at >>all. > > > Less monocultures in dns severs would be nice to And this would *really* only be effective if at least one of the root servers ran something besides bind. Buchan - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE91MJ3rJK6UGDSBKcRAr0ZAJ9qlVRVoHt5si11Vp/rVLaS0OFcOQCgmAed O576L51b5u6VzJYcfBMN7Bg= =ki4q -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Faraj Meir wrote: >>>yep crack it ;-) or make your company buy it for you . >> >>So, what is the point of moving to Linux then, if Windows is so wonderful >>and Linux really sucks? The "free as in free beer" (which seems to be the >>case already with cracked stuff)? Trading in the uncomfty feeling of being >>a factual thief with the uncomfty feeling that you can tweak your machine >>beyond "Next>Next>Next>Finish"? > > I personnaly prefer to click on a rpm and finish (but don't like the > interdependance stuff) The fact that there are dependencies, or that rpm doesn't handle them for you (in which case you are using the wrong tool). If you don't want dependencies, do like windows does, and have each app supply the DLLs it was compiled for (official MS recommendation for Windows XP), or compile statically. In both these situations, in the case of an update, every app which uses the library will have to be updated. > but I'm trying to extract differences between linux and windows , to see > what > would enable the linux community to convert people user to linux ... A clear conscience. > I personnaly like a lot linux but don't use it daily (I couldn't since I > program for... > windows user) You could develop with wxWindows/wxGTK, and even cross-compile for windows under linux. > and it's for this reason that I've decided to represent all > windows > user that I was unable to convert to linux . > And I think I do it quite good ... > The free answer is not an answer since personnal user that do not want to > pay > crack programs and they doesn't see it as a bad things . Well, then they need to consider if they really want to be a criminal. > The only answer linux have is the open minded one that is also to program > things > wanted and needed by user . I don't think this is the only answer. Don't you guys have the BSA there? > I would like to pass to windows but : >in windows user and a lot of company trust because of the uniformity (not > true but) >in linux there are too many toolkit and embeding methodsto do the same > things , to many , > I really like QT and kpart from kde but there is also gtk and bonobo from > gnome ,windows maker So, just choose one, and make that the default in your company. > to many things are good only when fully compatible , which is not really th > case > don't tell me I'm not true , if I remember standart are build only for > ensuring compatibility and uniformity . > Yes, more compatability between GTK/Qt and Gnome/KDE would be cool. The fact that there are two different VFS implementations is one example Buchan - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE91MJDrJK6UGDSBKcRAjBqAJ9/rnaMgME514XUbGWb2S+yDKwnBQCcD1y5 4v+7OZo9r6XthlGfx1gRr/c= =G4Ib -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] contribs repositeries are too unknowns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Le Jeudi 14 Novembre 2002 23:30, Buchan Milne a écrit : > >>IMHO, something needs to be done with the old content of mandrakeuser.org, >>and ideally it should be included in the distro. > > Absolutly, the documention there kicks ass. Unfortunatly, Tom seems to be > unreachable :-( Can we possibly get some poeple together to maintain this? Would a Wiki (or something similar) work? Could we extract it as static html to go in a package (and get it into main)? (It would kind of defeat the purpose if the docs telling you about contibs are in a package in contribs ...). Buchan - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE91L8drJK6UGDSBKcRAmwBAJ4hVG21t+dNV6lgC0os2h8w2gcaCgCfd+37 0lTA3wpkIXnzB6QlB4Ir45Y= =j8uB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [not important] interesting theme for gtk apps ?
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3952
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Scherer wrote: Therefore, there is no need for all these fancy multimedia application. >>> >>>Some real businesses need multi-media. We do (animations from >>>simulations). In fact, that's probably one of the big reasons we don't >>>make more use of OpenOffice, and have to use Powerpoint for some >>>presentations. >> >>I know one company that make very heavy use of multimedia apps, to >>create presentations for selling thier stage / set designs. the company >>owner has told me that as soon as viable options for multimedia exist >>for linux they will review their os decision. >> >>the majority of businesses need some sort of multimedia application for >>the "sales" end of the business. to sell thier product / service. > > When I say fancy multimedia, i was talking of dvd, quick time and flash. > > Power point is not really multimedia, at least not the way I think of it. Hello? quicktime movie in powerpoint? Do you never give presentations which need animations? Engineering shops need this. DivX could also be useful in this regard, and I am sure there are business applications for being able to play encrypted DVDs you own (training material). If business didn't need multimedia, Windows Media player wouldn't be in Windows 2000 Pro. Buchan - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE91MAlrJK6UGDSBKcRAmo7AJ9Ji366OWVGwDT5tg99xBOhNCKrXgCfbegF P+TOqVsO+jDDVavmGBa+iDA= =/v34 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Re: ACPI on Compaq Presario 700 and Kernel-2.4.19.19mdk-1-1mdk
Il gio, 2002-11-14 alle 17:31, Juan Quintela ha scritto: > > "luca" == Luca Landi (inwind it) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > luca> I've try kernel-2.4.19.19mdk-1-1mdk on my Compaq Presario 700 and on > luca> reboot my Mandrake 9.x (semi-cooker) don't start!! Freeze during kernel > luca> loading > > luca> With normal kernel 2.4.19-16mdk my linux don't shutdown. > > luca> There is a bug in new ACPI patch?? > > luca> Any suggest?? > > luca> Thanks, Luca > > > Could you told me where it stops? > 2.4.19-19mdk with ACPI, boot message when stop: ... ... mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel ACPI: Subsistem revision 20020918 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry af 0xfd7ae, last bus=1 PCI: using configuration type 1pport and now STOP nothing... > And if it works if you try: > > pci=noacpi With pci=noacpi stop equal to prec case. > > and if that fails: > > acpi=off With acpi=off my boot finish correctly, but no acpi support is present in /proc Boot message from dmesg: ... ... ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000 ... ... mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel ACPI: Subsistem revision 20020918 ACPI: Disable via command line(acpi=off) PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry af 0xfd7ae, last bus=1 PCI: using configuration type 1pport PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routine entries PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) ... ... And now? Help > > Later, Juan. -- Luca Landi (inwind.it) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] angelwars-0.24-3mdk
Götz Waschk wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: angelwarsRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.24 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Fri Nov 15 09:11:17 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : Games/Arcade Source RPM: (none) Size: 805315 License: GPL Packager: Götz Waschk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://angel-wars.sourceforge.net/ Summary : Fast-paced, old-fashioned side-scrolling space shooter Description : Angel Wars is a traditional "space shooter" with an unusual premise--the player is a rebellious minion of Satan bent on taking the universe over for himself. It is written in C++ and aims to be as object-oriented and platform-independent as possible. --=-=-= * Fri Nov 15 2002 Götz Waschk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.24-3mdk - drop unapplied patch - fix URL buhu, I already fixed that, it's in /incoming, change the license to artistic too now I'm off for the weekend, ta ta! -- Mvh Per Øyvind Karlsen Delonic Technology Group AS Sysadmin, developer, greasemonkey www.delonic.no - +47 41681061
Re: [Cooker] mrproject segfaults
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:57:14 -0800, David Walser wrote: > Up to date with yesterday's Cooker. mrproject segfaults (pops up a Gnome > segfault message when you try to start it). Was also true like a week > ago, a couple weeks ago it worked. Duplicated here : it seems to be a freetype2 bug.. Until it is fixed, try running mrproject using GDK_USE_XFT=0 -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
[Cooker] Mandrake update install fails with encrypted filesystems
Hi. Mandrake update install fails with encrypted filesystems when he checks installed packages. You need to suppress encrypted filesystems like /dev/hda8 /home2 ext3 encryption=AES128,encrypted 0 0 from /etc/fstab before update BCL
