Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that?
Do I have another problem? I just installed a trial version of Partition Magic 8.0 - I was using versions 3 and 6 previously. It says something like I have an extended partition that crosses the 1024 Cylinder boundary but is NOT marked as an extendedX partition - and warns me that I may lose data - question is do I want or need Partition Magic to fix it? Now, I only created ONE partition with win98's FDISK - gave it 75% of my 120 Gb drive and let Linux automatically sort out the other 30-odd Gb for itself. So any extended partitions belong to Linux. Should I let Partition Magic mark this partition as an extendedX partition or just leave it? Please advice me. Thx in anticipation, Allan From: Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:32:43 -0500 Pixel wrote: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pascal Cavy wrote: I suspect diskdrake to have a bug in certain conditions. I have noticed several mdk installations where fdisk or cfdisk complains about overlapping partitions, or partitions not ending on cylinder boundary (for ex the first primary ending on 788 for exemple and the extented partition starting at 788 too !). It was the case on MDK90, I dont know if it's still true on MDK9.1B1 ? All logical partitions must be in cylinder order in the various MBRs along the extended chain for Windows. Partition Magic does this. must be is truly wrong. There's no such things as a specification for this. Not a specification, a tradition. DOS DOS-heritage partitioning tools typically fail if they find the logical chain order doesn't match the physical placement order. windows tools do create non-ordered logical-partitions linked list I've yet to see one. On the other hand, Linux utilities create MBR entries in order of partition creation time. NAICT, they, as well as most others, create MBR table entries in order of availability (FIFO). If previously created were primaries A, B C, using table positions 1, 2, 3, after which B was deleted, most partitioning tools will reuse table postition 2 when primary partition D is later created even though physically placed beyond C. This is true for fdisk and cfdisk, to my knowledge. Windows cannot handle this. wrong. AFAIK windows doesn't (didn't?) like many things, esp. when there is more than one primary partition (why??) M$ programmers with blinders that don't foresee *and* accomodate the possibility of more than one OS installed per device or system. Accordingly, Linux-created partitions cannot be guaranteed to be acceptable to Windows. Usually this happens only when a partitioning tool creates a partition that does not start on a cylinder boundary. I'm not aware of any non-Linux tools capable of such behavior. you mean FAT partitions created under linux? Regardless whether any format at all. AFAIK there's a pb regarding the boot code which is not written correctly when windows is installing on a linux-pre-formatted partition. The best solution I know is never to create partitions except with Partition Magic (which does not support ext3, Reiserfs, etc.) or you must dedicate a hard drive to Windows partitions only if you need to double-boot with Windows. You could also choose to dedicate an entire machine to Windows only. The best solution short of separate disks is to use a tool that understands multiple formats. The more formats the better. Generally this means just about any tool that is *not* distributed with any OS, and includes Partition Magic among many others. Understanding formats is independent of partitioning, and really just a convenience to the user of the partitioning tool. A partition can be created without any real format, having the format merely designated in the table but not in the partition's data area. Once in the table, any smart formatter can change the table entry to match whatever format is actually applied to the partition's data area. Yes, you can also use cfdisk etc very carefully, making sure that all partitions are created and exist in start cylinder order. wow, i wonder why you write very carefully since it's the default behaviour, unless you mess around quite a lot with your partitions. Maybe by carefully he means avoiding Linux fdisk, which throws out table entries beyond hdx16. ;-) as for me, i think diskdrake is powerful enough As pertains to its use during installation, I certainly don't. It needs to be smart enough to create HPFS fstab entries when type 07h partitions are in fact formatted HPFS, rather than useless NTFS fstab entries. -- There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it.William James Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/partitioningindex.html
Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that?
hmmm I wonder if you have got/had the same problem as me - Windoze reported an error in disk size reported and fixed it during a defrag session - then I got a message similar to yours (I can't remeber the exact message) and some utilities (including fips 2.0) said I had overlapping partitions - yet I had done an automatic install (I just fdisk x% for Windows and let Linux automatically take care of the remainder (120 GB - x%) space - so far I have been unable to reproduce the circumstances but I now view MS Scandisk and Defrag with more suspicion (and caution) than ever! Allan From: J. Greenlees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that? Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:33:20 -0800 Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Hi, Getting this message whenever I boot up the machine, multiple times at different stages of the boot: ldm_validate_partition_table(): disk read failed. no idea why or what it means. What other info will help? only time I've seen disk read errors was when the drive was failing to register with the bios. or crashing ( ancient drive ) if your partition table got damaged at all that could concievably cause same error. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
[Cooker] Sound problems
Hi Bear in mind I'm new to Linux. I seem to have screwed up my sound system in Linux. I installed some ALSA add-on for XMMS and I believe I was using OSS sound drivers (auto-selected during installation). Since then, I've had numerous problems with my sound system. I managed to get it working but XMMS just quits immediately now when I try to run it. Do you think I should do a fresh installation to put things back to normal or is there a quick fix? I know I haven't geiven much info for people to go on, but I'm not at home at the moment. Allan _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that?
Whoops, sorry - I jes clicked Reply-To and didn't check. But my point is valid? Allan From: Pascal Cavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Allan Mee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:08:23 +0100 hum you forgot to reply to the cooker list. I am not the maintainer of any partitioning package :) just a tester Pascal Le Mardi 14 Janvier 2003 16:28, vous avez écrit : If you are right, then it is a situation that needs to be sorted - and quickly! The only reason I didn't do an expert installation and manually FDISK/Partition my hard-disk was because I assumed the OS would be less error-prone than me - I certainly don't want to find I have to replace tens of GB of data at some future stage. Having deleted all my partitions and started from scratch after the last time, I checked with every utility I have (various partition managers, fdisk, fips etc. etc.) and they all say the HD partitions are ok - but my point is, installing Linux is hoary enough when it goes as it should - but any bug in the partitioning software is potentially disastrous - and certainly won't do Linux any favours! Question - has anybody used the Ranish partition manager? It allows up to 32 primary partitions (instead of the usual 4) and can semmingly handle all OSs which can boot beyond 8GB. I'm tempted to try it - but would like to talk with anyone else who has tried it first. Allan From: Pascal Cavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Allan Mee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:48:37 +0100 I suspect diskdrake to have a bug in certain conditions. I have noticed several mdk installations where fdisk or cfdisk complains about overlapping partitions, or partitions not ending on cylinder boundary (for ex the first primary ending on 788 for exemple and the extented partition starting at 788 too !). It was the case on MDK90, I dont know if it's still true on MDK9.1B1 ? Pascal Cavy Le Mardi 14 Janvier 2003 15:35, Allan Mee a écrit : hmmm I wonder if you have got/had the same problem as me - Windoze reported an error in disk size reported and fixed it during a defrag session - then I got a message similar to yours (I can't remeber the exact message) and some utilities (including fips 2.0) said I had overlapping partitions - yet I had done an automatic install (I just fdisk x% for Windows and let Linux automatically take care of the remainder (120 GB - x%) space - so far I have been unable to reproduce the circumstances but I now view MS Scandisk and Defrag with more suspicion (and caution) than ever! Allan From: J. Greenlees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that? Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:33:20 -0800 Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Hi, Getting this message whenever I boot up the machine, multiple times at different stages of the boot: ldm_validate_partition_table(): disk read failed. no idea why or what it means. What other info will help? only time I've seen disk read errors was when the drive was failing to register with the bios. or crashing ( ancient drive ) if your partition table got damaged at all that could concievably cause same error. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Pascal Cavy - VMF __ Running 3 days, 20:53, 4 users, load average: 0.86, 0.59, 0.62 (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-4mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.20-2mdkenterprise _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- Pascal Cavy - VMF __ Running 3 days, 22:17, 4 users, load average: 0.43, 0.43, 0.51 (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-4mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.20-2mdkenterprise _ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
Re: [Cooker] Sound problems
thx :) Then just reinstall xmms - ok will do. Allan From: Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sound problems Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:23:45 -0500 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:10 am, Allan Mee wrote: Hi Bear in mind I'm new to Linux. I seem to have screwed up my sound system in Linux. I installed some ALSA add-on for XMMS and I believe I was using OSS sound drivers (auto-selected during installation). Since then, I've had numerous problems with my sound system. I managed to get it working but XMMS just quits immediately now when I try to run it. Do you think I should do a fresh installation to put things back to normal or is there a quick fix? I know I haven't geiven much info for people to go on, but I'm not at home at the moment. Allan _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail quick fix - rm -rf ~/.xmms - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPiQ5lRFHZPcobeHxAQJglwQAnvoTvXE83CYVYTNFylHdZpKakPT9l1gI m0RY4luoKxJZ1lMW+lz2l2qG9bU9es9R8JkcDgHrZ/PxAcz5nHWUv+HMA2D/rWIp z8lVeBwWiTAyqP5vVGwOWknYkfHm6fIyaHqtO7Ktst1qw75lJnX/W3d3lnARpQ2n 1S67BId69w8= =H2Bm -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: [Cooker] Sound problems
Cool! Thnx :) Allan From: Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sound problems Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:33:31 -0500 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:30 am, Allan Mee wrote: thx :) Then just reinstall xmms - ok will do. Allan Nope, just run it again. All removing that dir will do is remove your user prefs for that user - the prefs that were set to use alsa. You'll be starting clean again without re-installing xmms -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
[Cooker] BASIC
Hi I just thought I'd mention I got XBasic to work ok (still trying to get SmallBasic to run) - but at least I can know start on writing some stuff for Linux. Although I can program in C/C++ and x86 assembly - my preferred language is a good BASIC - in the last twenty years, I've used over 400 dialects of BASIC and worked as a programmer for 8 years. I even won over my tutors at college to BASIC (from C) when I did my IT degree :) I still write Visual BAsic programs - occasionally even commercially! It would be great if XBASIC (or any good BASIC) was shipped with Mandrake and other distros. I suspect we would probably see much more software being written for Linux if BASIC was shipped with it. Allan _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: [Cooker] BASIC
Not tried BASH scripting yet - though I am interested in getting to grips at some time with Pearl and PHP. Allan From: roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cooker List (Mandrake) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] BASIC Date: 13 Jan 2003 03:22:44 -0800 Why not just learn Bash Shell scripting? It is very very similar to basic. On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 03:00, Allan Mee wrote: Hi I just thought I'd mention I got XBasic to work ok (still trying to get SmallBasic to run) - but at least I can know start on writing some stuff for Linux. Although I can program in C/C++ and x86 assembly - my preferred language is a good BASIC - in the last twenty years, I've used over 400 dialects of BASIC and worked as a programmer for 8 years. I even won over my tutors at college to BASIC (from C) when I did my IT degree :) I still write Visual BAsic programs - occasionally even commercially! It would be great if XBASIC (or any good BASIC) was shipped with Mandrake and other distros. I suspect we would probably see much more software being written for Linux if BASIC was shipped with it. Allan _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- Roger - Verify my pgp/gnupg signature on my homepage: http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/index.html _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: [Cooker] BASIC
Thanx, Haven't seen Gnome BASIC in Mandrake - I will look for it when I get home :) Allan From: David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] BASIC Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:24:03 -0800 (PST) We do ship gb (Gnome BASIC), have you tried that? --- Allan Mee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be great if XBASIC (or any good BASIC) was shipped with Mandrake and other distros. I suspect we would probably see much more software being written for Linux if BASIC was shipped with it. Allan _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: [Cooker] BASIC
Yeah, I was looking for BASICs for Linux I came across YABASIC among others - an interesting point is that there are usually versions for Windows/Dos/Unix/Linux and often other OS' - I've spent a couple of hours in xbasic for Windows and Linux and so far the same source code works on both OSs fine without any modifications needed - of course they were just a couple of demo proglets - but I'm thinking of what to write for Linux - a 'Universal' installer for 3rd party software for Linux software would be a good idea methinks :) - but I have to learn a lot more about Linux before attempting that one yet. I looked on the net at Gnome BASIC - if it really is a) on my Mandrake Linux CDs and b) really anything like VB then woo-hoo - maybe I'll port some of my VB stuff to Linux - for example, I wrote an excellent (according to many people :) general multimedia player and editor. It can play anything that the Windows MCI-API can handle (e.g. MPGs, MP3s, AVIs, QuickTime Movies, WAVs, MIDI files, etc. etc. and can handle (show and edit) most image formats - BMP, GIF, JPEG, etc. It can show and edit text files, Word documents, etc. It can also play most MOD files (e.g. pro-tracker MODs, Far, ST3 and 669 files etc). I only use one 3rd party custom control - plus some custom Active X controls I wrote. For any file formats the program doesn't understand, the program provides options to show and edit them in ASCII or hex format (very useful if you **Know** what you are doing - a lot easier than using DOS' Debug !!!) Allan From: Chuck Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] BASIC Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:35:06 -0500 On Monday 13 January 2003 06:33, Allan Mee wrote: Thanx, Haven't seen Gnome BASIC in Mandrake - I will look for it when I get home :) Allan Also, in contribs, there is YABASIC (yet another...). I have not used it in Mandrake, (nor any Linux, for that matter), but have built, and used it for various things (some physics code that was, for some reason written in Microsought's GW-BASIC) several years ago on HP-9000 systems. -C.S. _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
[Cooker] Help?
Hi I'm new to Linux - I'm running Mandrake 9.0 - I've d/l smallbasic for DOS, Windows and Linux - it's a Linux tar-ball. I've unpacked it using ARK but can't seem to 'install' it or get it to run. This is my first go at installing something from a tar-ball. Could someone give me some simple instructions on how to install 3rd party stuff in Linux? The DOS and Windows versions of smallbasic work fine. Allan From: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] mosix enabled mandrake kernel any chance Date: 10 Jan 2003 12:37:18 +0100 At some point there was a mosix kernel enabled, you may got to ping tvignaud to see with him. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [Cooker] Help?
ok thanx, Allan From: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Help? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:19:59 +0200 Allan Mee wrote: Hi I'm new to Linux - I'm running Mandrake 9.0 - I've d/l smallbasic for DOS, Windows and Linux - it's a Linux tar-ball. I've unpacked it using ARK but can't seem to 'install' it or get it to run. This is my first go at installing something from a tar-ball. Could someone give me some simple instructions on how to install 3rd party stuff in Linux? The DOS and Windows versions of smallbasic work fine. Allan You will get better responses for this kind of question on the newbie or expert lists. If you're a MandrakeClub member, you could request to have it packaged for 9.0. Of course, for any useful response, it would save other's time to include a url to the homepage and/or downloads that you are using. (but please send that somewhere else ..). Regards, Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 _ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
