RE: [Cooker] Minimal installation of Mandrake [Re: 750 meg of cooker: how to divide?]
Not liking perl is one thing, to each his own. But replacing perl with javascript? Now that's so funny I almost barfed Dr. Pepper all over my keyboard! G. -- Don Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Optivus Technology, Inc. (909) 799-8300 "Splitting Atoms.. Saving Lives!"http://www.optivus.com Vadim Plessky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Loooks like - yes, Perl is still needed by some packages. At least, I was not able to clean up it from my installation completely, but succeded with some minor perl-related packages. Perl is scripting language, right? And old-fashioned, not easy to use... hum, this is at least nonsense. I could start being mean, beware! Hey aren't some of our tools written with GTK-perl .. -- Geoff
RE: [Cooker] ext3
Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any chance the ext3 code could be integrated into Mandrake's kernels ? ReiserFS doesn't seem to be as stable as it is claimed, What is your definition of not stable ? Well I'll mess in the discussion if you don't mind. Reiser looks quite tough for now. However it has not a wide distribution as ext2. Besides, those who are making it clearly state that there are problems. And I believe they have good reasons to say it. They are the most interested party in this thing. Personally, I had no problems with Reiser's partitions, but I can't say the same of the tools. Things there are still green somehow. If you get a crash you may get some trouble to get things back. So in terms of stability Reiser is still under question. You may use it on a /usr that you don't mind to reinstall. But, at the moment, I would not risk to store critical information in such partitions. Reiser still has some implementations problems with NFS and SMP. For instance, when exporting a reiser filesystem to a Solaris box via NFS, several instances of Solaris complaining that a paticular file (that was indeed a text file) was a directory. And this wasn't consistent, you'd have the Sun box writing to this log file for days, then suddenly stop, with the complaint that it was trying to write to a directory. After changing both exported reiser filesystems back to ext2, those problems went away. But the other partitions (/usr /var etc) are still reiser. The machine (A DUAL 550 PIII with 512Megs of ram, running SuSE 6.4) will ocassionally "lose" directories on the reiser partitions. You can be logged in locally, cd to /usr/local/httpd for instance, do an "ls" and that process will hang for almost an hour before returning the directory listing. Then it will be fine for days, only to do it again elsewhere. It's very weird. While I've not lost any data on a reiser FS, I also cannot justify placing it back onto our production machines until these problems are resolved. Which sucks, since doing a fsck on the 120 GIGs that this machine exports takes WTFL! (Waaay too freakin long!) -- Don Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Optivus Technology, Inc. (909) 799-8327 "Splitting Atoms.. Saving Lives!"http://www.optivus.com
RE: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
DMA works fine on CURRENT Wd disks. There was an issue with an earlier disk. just a simple test on my Mandrake7.0 box with a single WD 27 GIG drive. (Using bonnie) Fresh reboot, no hdparm: ---Sequential Output ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- MachineMB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 100 4261 73.5 5092 7.5 1776 19.8 2928 71.9 3956 18.5 288.7 8.3 Reboot again. Then hdparm -d1c1 /dev/hda (then run bonnie again) ---Sequential Output ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- MachineMB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 100 7919 99.3 28024 30.9 9332 20.8 7509 86.8 19223 16.9 440.1 2.4 That's a pretty good improvement for a drive that isn't susposed to work at all in UDMA mode. -- Don Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: bobby dowling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 5:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive Well, it looks like you got lucky. I have a 13 gig and an 8 gig WD and they are both slow. The funny thing is that the 8 gig is a 5400 rpm drive and hdparm says it is a shade faster than the 13 gig drive, which is a 7200 rpm drive...go figure. ...around 4.7 megs/sec each. I wish I knew this before I bought the drives. I got them at Best Buy and they sale both WD and Maxtor drives ...it was a flip of the coin then ...should have done my research ...maybe next time!! :) From: Sebastian Dransfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:24:36 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [216.71.84.35] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBB08171F00A3D82197E5D8475423685B0; Wed Jun 07 15:26:39 2000 Received: (from sympa@localhost)by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA04424for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:25:41 -0500 Received: from elefant.stud.ntnu.no (elefant.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.22]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03805 for[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:24:01 -0500 Received: from jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (jeeves [129.241.56.14]) by elefant.stud.ntnu.no (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id e57MOqC05818 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:24:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sebastid@localhost) by jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id e57MOa219068 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:24:36 +0200 (MET DST) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 07 15:29:33 2000 X-Authentication-Warning: jeeves.stud.ntnu.no: sebastid owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sequence: 548 Precedence: list On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, bobby dowling wrote: So, there is no way to use DMA on WD drives? Man, this stinks. Why are WD hard drives so much slower than others? It seems like this would be widely know and people wouldn't but them. Model=WDC AC310200R This one works with standard Mandrake hdparm options. Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 5.10 seconds = 12.55 MB/sec It's okay. seb __ __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[Cooker] Kernel Question
I noticed that there seems to be support for the HPT366 UDMA/66 chip that's on Abit's MB in one of the kernels on the 7.0, but I didn't see the patch in the kernel sources. (makes it a little tough to rebuild your kernel if your only drive lives on the controller..) Is the patch on the 7.0 image somewhere? -- Don Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Optivus Technology, Inc. (909) 799-8327 "Splitting Atoms.. Saving Lives!"http://www.optivus.com
RE: [Cooker] [OT] good motherboards
And I'll raise you: Abit BP6, 2 Celeron 366s at 552Mhz, 128 Meg PC100, 2 WD 27 gig Udma 66 7200RPM drives, (With DMA properly turned on) Sound Blaster 64, 3com 905b-tx, 3 16meg G200, Xfree 3.9.17 +xinerama, 3 19inch CTX monitors. Oh yeah, Mandrake 7.0. G. -- Don Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Optivus Technology, Inc. (909) 799-8327 "Splitting Atoms.. Saving Lives!"http://www.optivus.com -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 2:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] [OT] good motherboards I'll see your Asus P5a, and raise ya an EpoX MVP3G5 (Via Apollo, 2MB cache, 1agp, 5pci, 2 isa), 128 mb pc100 ram, an AMD K62/3D now 500mhz, Matrox G400 Dualhead (32MB), an SB Live! Platinum, Netgear 10/100 lan card (cable modem), Logitech cordless keyboard and mouse. 3 questions; how do I get the scroll wheel of my mouse operating in KDE? Why does my internet connection seem to be a lot faster under windoze 98? And finally, where do I configure the soundcard? (I'm figuring I'll have to do a kernel recompile) Thanks Dave Korzun - I may be old, but I'm slow... - Original Message - From: "Richard S. McCranie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] [OT] good motherboards I am running a Dual boot system with an Asus P5a mother board with an ALI chip set and an AMD K62 CPU with no problems... - Original Message - From: Hugo Rabson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 10:04 AM Subject: [Cooker] [OT] good motherboards I know this is severely OT but I would appreciate feedback from the readers of this list. My boss's boss has given me yet another batch of motherboards unreliable by design (last time, AstroMicro; this time, ProComp) and I would appreciate recommendations of good motherboards, especially anecdotal evidence of quality. I've heard good things about:- - Gigabyte - Tyan - ABit (The PCs run Pentium III CPUs up to 550MHz and are Linux/Windows98 dual-boot. I figure, if it'll run Linux, it'll run Windows, but not the other way around.) I'm looking on ZDNet for reviews but I trust the Cooker people more than ZDNet. I'm not asking anyone to do my research for me. You folks are yet one more information resource for me to exploit- umm, I mean, utilize. :) TIA, HugoRabson
