[Cooker] 7.0 Updates Location

2000-02-08 Thread John . Pigdon

I don't know whether this is the right place for this. If not, my apologies

From the web site,
-

 February 5 2000 - New ISO image available Due to a bug in the installer
 that caused problems when resizing certain FAT partitions and some 
 additional smaller issues, a new Mandrake 7.0 ISO image called 
 mandrake70-2.iso is available for download at the usual locations. If you  
 have the previous ISO image, just replace your 
 Mandrake/RPMS/draxtools-1.0-43mdk.i586.rpm package by  
 drakxtools-1.0-44mdk.i586.rpm, upgrade to the new boot images and use them 
 exclusively.   
 -- 
 ---



There is an inconsistent treatment of "updates" at present. The update to
draxtools is in the main RPMS directory and not in the updates area, while
the updated boot images are in the updates area and not in the main ISO
area.




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Re: [Cooker] 7.0 release delayed!

2000-01-31 Thread John . Pigdon



This idea didn't work for me.
Here's what happened
I went to install MDK7.0 on an 8 GB disk with WIN98 on it.
Told partitioner to give 2 GB to Linux (leaving 6GB for Windows)
After it all went horribly wrong and I ended up with a corrupt Windows that
wouldn't boot, I started from scratch.
I deleted the Linux partition (and swap) using the MDK 7 installer,
rebooted to DOS, ran fdisk, deleted and recreated my DOS partition.

This said everything was fine and showed an 8GB partition. I reinstalled
WIN98 (and all my apps), only to find it thought I had a 6GB drive still.

Partition Magic 5 fixed it, but only after I resized the Win98 partition to
6GB, then back to 8GB.

So, after a day of re-installing, the cost of Partition Magic 5, I would
concur that these sorts of problems should have been cleared up before
release.

On my second machine, which has had about every prior release on Madrake on
it without a problem, the install problems are different but just as bad.
It's a P120, 32 MB RAM, 1X6 and 1X2GB drive, 6XCDROM, Diamond Stealth 3D
2000 Pro.
After numerous attempts where the graphical installer wouldn't work, I
finally got it going with the text installer. The text installer is not as
good as what was there. It would not allow individual package selection.

So finally, I'm up and running. But no mouse. Mouseconfig had linked
/dev/mouse to "ttyS0". After manually linking it to /dev/ttyS0, i got my
mouse. How basic an issue is this

Now to configuring sound. Whereas the sound card (SB16 equivalent) had been
picked up by previous versions of MDK, 7.0 did not configure it correctly.
Had to manually set the DMA to the correct setting. A minor issue, but I'm
curious as to why.

Next, KDE. I chose the video card, monitor and setting the same as they've
been in the past and it said it coudn't do it.
By this stage, I'm fast losing confidence in MDK. Simple things that worked
in the past now don't work.








Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/02/2000 06:40:41 AM

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granted...the install partitioner doesn't work well at all with any
preexisting
windows partitions.

have been advised by powerquest that once you use a partitioner, don't
switch
to others as it may cause other problems.

you'll need to go back into the mdk install prg and del the partitions that
you
created with it or moved to be able veiw the partitions again.

thought this problem would have been cleared before the final release no?



On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, you wrote:
 Thank you, Corrupt Windows partition is what I ended up with.

 using such a CD to start the installation may result in some cases in
 corruption of your Windows partition if it is resized during the
 installation.






 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 31/01/2000 12:19:53 PM

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 All,

 There are new floppy images in the updates/7.0 directory of the mirrors.
Included is README.img, which I include inline below. Note
 particularly
 (and with great joy and relief) the final paragraph (big G).

 -

 The following files are boot images which correct a problem
 in the ISO image mandrake70.iso dated Jan 12, 2000:

 cdrom-2.img:   install from CD-ROM
 hd-2.img:  install from hard-disk
 network-2.img: install from ftp/nfs/http
 pcmcia-2.img:  install from pcmcia devices

 If you intend to install Linux-Mandrake from mandrake70.iso on a machine
 that already has Windows installed, you must start the installation
 process with a bootable floppy disk created from cdrom-2.img, as
 described in the files INSTALL and install.htm.  Although a CD created
 from mandrake70.iso is bootable, using such a CD to start the
 installation may result in some cases in corruption of your Windows
 partition if it is resized during the installation. To use the boot
floppy:

 1. Place the floppy in your first floppy drive (A:) and reboot your
 machine.
The installation procedure will be started from the floppy.
 2. If prompted, select your CD-ROM drive from the list provided.
 3. When prompted, insert CD #1 and continue the installation.

 Note: On some systems you will need to insert both the floppy and the
 CD together and reboot. In this case, be sure that the install starts
 from the floppy and not the CD.

 A new ISO image mandrake70-2.iso correcting the problem will be
 available shortly.

 Keeping its dedication to quality, MandrakeSoft has chosen to postpone
 the commercial release of its Linux-Mandrake 7.0 distribution to ensure
 a maximal quality for this product.

 ---

  --

 Regards,

 Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
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Re: [Cooker] 7.0 release delayed!

2000-01-31 Thread John . Pigdon



You make it sound as though I was dealing with beta software. I was
commenting on the inadequacy of a released product (
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/announce-air.php3 ) to deal correctly with
my data (I got it 3 days after it was released), when there was no mention
anywhere of any problems re partitioning. In fact, Mandrake use this as a
big marketing tool with no mention of any problems anywhere on the site
There is still no reference to 7.0 in the updates area of the site.

Problems with partitioning on install have now been acknowledged as have
other install problems. There are just too many problems with 7.0 for it to
be considered release quality.







Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/02/2000 12:05:30 PM

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first off...as i said, resizing windows or "adding partitions" was a
no-no".
did that and when booting back to dos and using pqmagic stated, "partition
errorpartition wasn't visible or no partitions to show".  to resolve,
had
to go back a delete the swap partition that i added.

tell ya one thing, your confidence is won pretty quick!  me, i said, "ahh,
what
the heck, i'll let it make "just" my swap partition."  glad i was safe with
my
data. just had to go back and delete the swap.  also, you could have given
powerquest a call for techsupport, could have just been a "value" that
needed
to be edited with their utility apps w/i /utitilites/dos somewhere.  (had
to do
this also)

last item, "data not backed-up" is "lost data"!  This is a primary rule
when
dealing with any computer.  what would you do if a lightning bolt struck
your
hdd?  Me?  I would simpley say "oh well" and pop in my cd-rom and
re-install
(windows98? probabely needed to be reinstalled anyways..usually is the case
with mine anyways).



 On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, you wrote:  This idea didn't work for
me.  Here's what happened  I went to install MDK7.0 on an 8 GB disk with
WIN98 on it.  Told partitioner to give 2 GB to Linux (leaving 6GB for
Windows)
 After it all went horribly wrong and I ended up with a corrupt Windows
that 
wouldn't boot, I started from scratch.  I deleted the Linux partition (and
swap) using the MDK 7 installer,  rebooted to DOS, ran fdisk, deleted and
recreated my DOS partition.This said everything was fine and showed
an
8GB partition. I reinstalled  WIN98 (and all my apps), only to find it
thought
I had a 6GB drive still. 
 Partition Magic 5 fixed it, but only after I resized the Win98 partition
to
 6GB, then back to 8GB.

 So, after a day of re-installing, the cost of Partition Magic 5, I would
 concur that these sorts of problems should have been cleared up before
 release.

 On my second machine, which has had about every prior release on Madrake
on
 it without a problem, the install problems are different but just as bad.
 It's a P120, 32 MB RAM, 1X6 and 1X2GB drive, 6XCDROM, Diamond Stealth 3D
 2000 Pro.
 After numerous attempts where the graphical installer wouldn't work, I
 finally got it going with the text installer. The text installer is not
as
 good as what was there. It would not allow individual package selection.

 So finally, I'm up and running. But no mouse. Mouseconfig had linked
 /dev/mouse to "ttyS0". After manually linking it to /dev/ttyS0, i got my
 mouse. How basic an issue is this

 Now to configuring sound. Whereas the sound card (SB16 equivalent) had
been
 picked up by previous versions of MDK, 7.0 did not configure it
correctly.
 Had to manually set the DMA to the correct setting. A minor issue, but
I'm
 curious as to why.

 Next, KDE. I chose the video card, monitor and setting the same as
they've
 been in the past and it said it coudn't do it.
 By this stage, I'm fast losing confidence in MDK. Simple things that
worked
 in the past now don't work.








 Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/02/2000 06:40:41 AM

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 granted...the install partitioner doesn't work well at all with any
 preexisting
 windows partitions.

 have been advised by powerquest that once you use a partitioner, don't
 switch
 to others as it may cause other problems.

 you'll need to go back into the mdk install prg and del the partitions
that
 you
 created with it or moved to be able veiw the partitions again.

 thought this problem would have been cleared before the final release no?



 On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, you wrote:
  Thank you, Corrupt Windows partition is what I ended up with.
 
  using such a CD to start the installation may result in some cases in
  corruption of your Windows partition if it is resized during the
  installation.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 31/01/2000 12:19:53 PM
 
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  All,
 
  There are new floppy images in the 

Re: [Cooker] 7.0 release delayed!

2000-01-30 Thread John . Pigdon



Thank you, Corrupt Windows partition is what I ended up with.

using such a CD to start the installation may result in some cases in
corruption of your Windows partition if it is resized during the
installation.






Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 31/01/2000 12:19:53 PM

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All,

There are new floppy images in the updates/7.0 directory of the mirrors.
   Included is README.img, which I include inline below. Note
particularly
(and with great joy and relief) the final paragraph (big G).

-

The following files are boot images which correct a problem
in the ISO image mandrake70.iso dated Jan 12, 2000:

cdrom-2.img:   install from CD-ROM
hd-2.img:  install from hard-disk
network-2.img: install from ftp/nfs/http
pcmcia-2.img:  install from pcmcia devices

If you intend to install Linux-Mandrake from mandrake70.iso on a machine
that already has Windows installed, you must start the installation
process with a bootable floppy disk created from cdrom-2.img, as
described in the files INSTALL and install.htm.  Although a CD created
from mandrake70.iso is bootable, using such a CD to start the
installation may result in some cases in corruption of your Windows
partition if it is resized during the installation. To use the boot floppy:

1. Place the floppy in your first floppy drive (A:) and reboot your
machine.
   The installation procedure will be started from the floppy.
2. If prompted, select your CD-ROM drive from the list provided.
3. When prompted, insert CD #1 and continue the installation.

Note: On some systems you will need to insert both the floppy and the
CD together and reboot. In this case, be sure that the install starts
from the floppy and not the CD.

A new ISO image mandrake70-2.iso correcting the problem will be
available shortly.

Keeping its dedication to quality, MandrakeSoft has chosen to postpone
the commercial release of its Linux-Mandrake 7.0 distribution to ensure
a maximal quality for this product.

---

 --

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.










Re: [Cooker] mandrake70.iso

2000-01-27 Thread John . Pigdon



Same problem here on two different machines. Is this being worked on /
fixed ?
At present I have Mandrake 7 CDROM which is totally useless.






[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 28/01/2000 12:19:27 PM

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BTW, I just tried this on my IBM Thinkpad 380D and it asked me if I
needed any PCMCIA devices for the install, I said no, it went ahead and
loaded the second stage ramdisk and failed with the same error.  I'm
now batting 0/3 :(

-Charlie

On Thu 27 Jan at 19:10:48 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
 On Fri 28 Jan at 01:20:31 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
 
  alas no. not really diagnosticated yet :(
 
  what's your hardware?

 These are the two machines that I tried and on which the install failed:

 [Box 1]:

 - Dual Celeron 400 (overclocked to 500MHz) on an ASUS P2B-D motherboard
 - 64Mb PC100 RAM
 - 44x ATAPI cdrom
 - Tekram DC-390 SCSI adapter (although no SCSI devices attached)
 - SoundBlaster 64 AWE sound card
 - Intel EtherExpress Pro ethernet adapter

 [Box 2]:

 - AMD K6-2 380MHz on FIC PA-2013 motherboard
 - 128Mb PC100 RAM
 - Adaptec 2940UW SCSI adapter
 - Yamaha CRW4260 SCSI burner
 - 40x ATAPI cdrom
 - Yamaha PCI soundcard that isn't supported
 - Intel EtherExpress Pro ethernet adapter

 I also tried using some of the boot images that were on the cd, but it
 didn't get me any further.

 Cheers,

 -Charlie









Re: [Cooker] mandrake70.iso

2000-01-27 Thread John . Pigdon


Reasoning to go to 7.0

1. New PC - SoundBlaster live
2. dual CD's ( one a Ricoh 7060 SCSI). Supermount sounds useful.
3. Partitioning tool to help set it all up
4. Every previous version of Mandrake loaded successfully, so why not 7.0
5. It's released.

After my problems (on my old faithful as well as my new box), I looked
through  alt.os.linux.mandrake
There are numerous other issues with the installaiton.

Any advice greatly appreciated.





[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 28/01/2000 04:23:53 PM

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On Mon 28 Feb at 04:49:12 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:

 Same problem here on two different machines. Is this being worked on /
 fixed ?
 At present I have Mandrake 7 CDROM which is totally useless.

I don't mean for this to sound accusatory, but I thought this would have
been tested a bit more thoroughly before release.  This seems to be a
problem that unfortunately occurs more and more regularly regardless of
distro.

BTW:  What was the reasoning for making the leap to 7.0 from 6.1?