Re: [Cooker] Wireless Network Support in 8.2?
On Friday 01 February 2002 09:53, Ben Reser wrote: | On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:21:42PM -0500, John LeMay wrote: |Thanks Ben. Does this mean that the actual driver for the adapter is |already there someplace? With 8.1 pcmcia sees it, but doesn't have a |suitable driver for the card. | | Well 8.0 had most (I say most even though I can't think of one that | isn't included in the pcmcia packages) of the free available ones. | I guess the answer depends on the particular card you are using. | And I don't think you've mentioned that. If you are still interested in subject: I found following info on our (D-Link) tech.support web site: NOTE: this is related to D-Link wireless products only, have no idea wether linux-wlan drivers work for other products. http://tsd.dlink.com.tw/info.nsf/c8ecbe5a85161c0f48256adf002d699c/8835b0b345de1de6482569d20030e715?OpenDocument Product Category: Wireless LAN Model No: All Wireless LAN products Subject : Where can download linux and Win CE driver for Wireless products? Answer : 1)Win CE http://www.intersil.com/prism/ss/wince/wincemx1.asp 2)Linux http://www.linux-wlan.com/ And, here is what I found from linux-wlan.com site: [I am not affilated with this company] *** Who are we? AbsoluteValue Systems is a company specializing in wireless LAN system product development, especially for embedded applications. AbsoluteValue Systems is an avid supporter of the Linux operating system, and we are the creators of the Open Source linux-wlan(tm) Project. For more detailed information about the linux-wlan(tm) Project, visit our Projects page. Our Commitment AbsoluteValue Systems is committed to being a company of the highest quality in every aspect of our business activity. The company's highest priority is to field products with excellent quality and excellent value for the customer. This focus has earned AbsoluteValue Software a reputation for high satisfaction among our customers. Our commitment to quality and customer satisfaction applies to our products, services and business practices. Contact Information Electronic Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing Address AbsoluteValue Systems 715-D North Drive Melbourne, FL 32934-9244 USA Telephone 321.259.0737 : Voice 321.259.0286 : Fax linux-wlan(tm) Project ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ http://www.linux-wlan.com/projects.html In December of 1996, we launched the linux-wlan(tm) Project (Linux Wireless Local Area Network) and began our research in WLAN technology. The goal of the linux-wlan(tm)project is to develop a complete, standards based, wireless LAN system using the GNU/Linux operating system including a Linux device driver for IEEE 802.11 wirless network cards, access point and portal software and user mode utility software. What differentiates this project from the Linux wireless extensions and other Linux wireless projects is that we base our development on the 1997 approved IEEE 802.11 standard. Many components of the project are completed and progress continues towards meeting all the goals of this project. This project marked the beginning of many software projects for wireless LAN technology for our company. Since the development of our first Linux WLAN device driver for this project, we have written various custom drivers for embedded applications and other operating systems. To find out more about the linux-wlan(tm) Project or to download the latest source code, visit the page dedicated specifically to the linux-wlan(tm) Project by clicking HERE. [ http://www.linux-wlan.org/index.html ] -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Wireless Network Support in 8.2?
On Friday 15 March 2002 20:28, Vadim Plessky wrote: | On Friday 01 February 2002 09:53, Ben Reser wrote: | | On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:21:42PM -0500, John LeMay wrote: | |Thanks Ben. Does this mean that the actual driver for the adapter | |is already there someplace? With 8.1 pcmcia sees it, but doesn't | |have a suitable driver for the card. [...] |2)Linux |http://www.linux-wlan.com/ | | And, here is what I found from linux-wlan.com site: | [I am not affilated with this company] Also take a look at this presentation from linux-wlan site: http://www.linux-wlan.com/writings/200202_linuxworld_presn/200202_lw_presn.htm and Linux-WLAN FAQ http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/linux-wlan-FAQ.html -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
[Cooker] KDE3 RC1
Any chance to put KDE3 RC1, instead of Beta2, into /RPMS2 (Contrib) folder? I have tetsed KDE3 Beta2, and it's more-less ok - except problem with KPersonalizer. Hope RC1 has this problem fixed, and can be used for more extensive testing :-) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] setting AA loses font.
On Monday 11 March 2002 20:19, Mattias Dahlberg wrote: | On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Hamster wrote: |How come that enabling AA then causes about 50% of available fonts to |drop off the planet? | | This is a limitation of KDE 2.x/Qt 2.x. It has been fixed in KDE 3.x/Qt | 3.x. All TrueType and PS Type1 fonts should be visible in KDE2 with AA enabled. At least here I can use all MS fonts, plus some others. KDE2 drops, to my best knoledge, bitmapped fonts only | | Regards, | Mattias Cheers, -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Broken fonts...
On Monday 11 March 2002 18:59, Mike Eheler wrote: | Interesting. I'll try that edit for XftConfig you provided at the | bottom. | | Thanks! | | Mike | | On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 01:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Mike Eheler wrote: | I'm using GNOME as my window manager of choice. My screen resolution | is 1024x768x24bit. I then install my Windows fonts with DrakFont. | When I go to view a website in Galeon that has Verdana on it (in this | case it's Verdana 9pt) the font it displays looks HORRIBLE. It's | *bold* for some bizarre reason, and it's all blotchy as if the result | of some inept attempt at anti-aliasing. All I want is for my Verdana | TTF font to look NORMAL. That meaning the way it looks in every other | occasion (in Windows, Mandrake 8.1, etc). | |Well, as I see from your screen shot, it looks like galeon is using |normal AA for Verdana. I did not know (use kde mostly) we had xft |support for galeon in cooker now, but I think with currect freetype2 |and XftConfig this is the expected behaviour. Also, I do not think the |font is bold. This problem is probably caused bu bad behavior of FreeType2 PS auto-hinter. FT 2.0.6 from Cooker is too old, and you can't judge wether its rendering quality good or bad. You need: * compile FT 2.0.6 with Bytecode Interpreter turned On or (better) * upgrade to FreeType 2.0.9 released recently It has major imprrovements over prevuous releases, especially comparing to FT 2.0.6! | |You can either turnoff anti-aliasing or, |and this will improve your font handling drastically is install |freetype 2.0.8 and enable the bytecode interpreter in |include/freetype/config/ftoption.h line 314: | | #undef TT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER |change to: | #define TT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER | |(which is sadly not on cooker yet, and will as I understand it, not |be in 8.2). And to get rid of these OVERaliased fonts at normal size |put: match | any size 8 | any size 15 |edit | antialias = false; |in /etc/X11/XftConfig. I've no idea if this will be applied before |release. Ok, I have different opinion on this. Please take a look at my XftConfig, which IMO is superior to the one distributed with LM 8.0 / XF 4.1.0 which I am running on production partition. | |Danny -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/ # # XftConfig # # Use with Type1 and TrueType fonts # # Note that each application scans all these directories # during startup, so you may want to disable some to # get better speed. # added by Vadim Plessky # my TrueType fonts are here: # (Windows True Type fonts) dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts # Paragraph TTF fonts #dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/parattf # Paragraph PFB fonts dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/parapfb # fontd from ATM dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/atm # Standard XFree86 Type 1 fonts dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 # # TTF fonts dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype # User installed fonts dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont dir /opt/ttfonts # URW fonts dir /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 # Localized Truetype fonts dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/big5 dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/gb2312 dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/japanese dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/korean dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/armenian dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/thai # don't yet exist, but i hope to include some day a package for them (Pablo) dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/cyrillic dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/viet dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/ethiopic dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/georgian dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/arabic dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/hebrew dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/unicode # Sun JDK fonts dir /usr/java/jdk1.3/jre/lib/fonts # Sun OpenOffice, location depends on install dir /usr/openoffice60/share/fonts/type1 dir /usr/local/openoffice60/share/fonts/type1 dir ~/openoffice60/share/fonts/type1 # OpenOffice fonts from ttfonts*rpm dir /usr/share/fonts/default/TrueType # AbiSuite comes with URW fonts as well dir /usr/share/abisuite/AbiSuite/fonts # # alias 'fixed' for 'mono' # match any family == fixed edit family =+ mono; # # Check users config file # includeif ~/.xftconfig # # Substitute TrueType fonts for Type1 versions # #match any family == Timesedit family += Times New Roman; #match any family == Helveticaedit family += Verdana; #match any family == Courier edit family += Courier New; # # Use TrueType fonts for defaults # #match any family == serifedit family += Times New Roman; #match any family == sans edit family += Verdana; # # Use monotype.com (andale) face where possible # match any family == mono
[Cooker] Fwd: FreeType 2.0.9 Released
Hi, David Turner released new version of FreeType - 2.0.9 See announcement below Cooker still have FT2-2.0.6, which is 3 generations ahead... Can someone packaging FreeType udate the package, please? I have tested FT-2.0.6 binary RPM from Cooker - and it has terrible rendering quality for TrueType fonts. (I was using before FT 2.0.3 compiled with TrueType Bytecode Interpreter turned On, in Cooker I guess it's turned Off) I have heard from David Turner that PS auto-hinter quality greatly improoved after 2.0.6 release So I hope upgrading FT2 in Cooker and upcoming LM 8.2 will greatly imprrove rendering quality in all X applications (KDE, GNOME, Mozilla, etc.) Regards, Vadim -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [Freetype] FreeType 2.0.9 Released Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:07:55 +0100 From: David Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'd like to announce that FreeType 2.0.9 has finally been released a few days ago. I couldn't announce it due to minor mail server problems but everything can now be grabbed from the main site, SourceForge or any of the mirrors.. Enjoy, - David Turner = == I. IMPORTANT BUG FIXES - Certain fonts, like foxjump.ttf contain broken name tables with invalid entries and wild offsets. This caused FreeType to crash when trying to load them. The SFNT 'name' table loader has been fixed to be able to support these strange fonts. Moreover, the code in charge of processing this table has been changed to always favor Windows-formatted entries over other ones. Hence, a font that works on Windows but not on the Mac will load cleanly in FreeType and report accurate values for Family Postscript names. - The CID font driver has been fixed. It unfortunately returned a Postscript Font name with a leading slash, as in /MunhwaGothic-Regular. - FreeType 2 should now compile fine on AIX 4.3.3 as a shared library. - A bug in the Postscript hinter has been found and fixed. You shouldn't be experimenting un-even stem widths at small pixel sizes (like 14-17). This improves the quality of a certain number of Postscript fonts :o) II. NEW FEATURES: - A new function named FT_Library_Version has been added to return the current library's major, minor and patch version numbers. This is important since the macros FREETYPE_MAJOR, FREETYPE_MINOR and FREETYPE_PATCH cannot be used when the library is dynamically linked by a program.. - Two new APIs have been added: FT_Get_First_Char and FT_Get_Next_Char. Together, these can be used to iterate efficiently over the currently selected charmap of a given face. Read the API reference for more details. III. MISCELLANEOUS: - The FreeType sources are under heavy internal re-factoring. As a consequence, we have created a branch named STABLE on the CVS to hold all future releases/fixes in the 2.0.x family. The HEAD branch now contains the re-factored sources and shouldn't be used for testing or packaging new releases. In the cases where you would like to access the 2.0.9 sources from our CVS repository, you should use the tag VER-2-0-9. ___ Freetype mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freetype.org/mailman/listinfo/freetype --- -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Broken fonts...
On Monday 11 March 2002 20:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Vadim Plessky wrote: |* upgrade to FreeType 2.0.9 released recently |It has major imprrovements over prevuous releases, especially comparing |to FT 2.0.6! | | I agree completly:) | |Ok, I have different opinion on this. |Please take a look at my XftConfig, which IMO is superior to the one |distributed with LM 8.0 / XF 4.1.0 which I am running on production |partition. | | No doubt it is superior to the one in x 4.1.0. But if I look at your | XftConfig it seems you enable AA for fonts between 8 and 14? which is Yes, that's correct. Good AA in Linux/FT is one of major benefits over Windows. Enabling AA in Windows for those font sizes is useless (even if you found a way to do it), but it works fine with KDE/Qt. I am using it since upgrade to XF4.1.0 (May 2001?) | useless since AA is the default (or did you turn it off somewhere and i | missed it?) and even if it was useful, why would I want normal fonts | looking smudgy while I have big fonts looking jagged and small fonts | unreadable because they are build with to few pixels? No, I don't turn AA off, I use it with all fonts. It also helps to debug FreeType bugs, and bugs in some publicaly available fonts (including MS Web fonts) I can tell you that Verdana and Linotype Palatino are almost *bug-free* fonts, and can be used even with FT 2.0.3 (with TT bytecode interpreter compiled-in) I also found that Arial and Times New Roman (TNR) are very buggy, and Georgia and Tahoma somewhere in-between So, if you want to use buggy fonts (like Arial), you may want to turn AA off for those sizes. Also: you may want to check Freetype and Freetype-devel mailing list archives, a lot of rendering problems (incl. Arial and TNR) were discussed on those lists. As about big fonts looking jagged and small fonts unreadable - pls provide more details which fonts you tested, what exact point sizes, etc. I guess the best place to discuss it is FT mailing lists. | | Danny Cheers, -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] RAR archiver - pls add to LM / Cooker
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 22:22, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: | Geoffrey Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |IIRC, It is non-free, unfortunately. | | Yes. Even unrar was removed from contrib because of the licensing | issue. Is there someone on Cooker list who is located in California, preferably Freemont? I guess I was meeting RAR author some time ago (he was working in Moscow) when visiting friends' office doing some UNIX development. Unfortunatly, most of them immigrated to US. I know company where some of them working - but lost e-mail address. I think it's posible to conact through those friends author and ask for special licance for Mandrake. May be, RAR author just not aware that current shareware license has problems with Linux world?.. | |We all know that RAR is good but because of licensing issues we cannot |do that. | | Well RAR is nice, but as ARJ or even bzip2, the compression | algorithm doesn't allow seeking in the compressed stream | (opposedly to zlib), so extracting a single file at a random | position is very slow, and if there is corruption at a place of | the stream, the whole rest of data is lost. well, my usage of RAR was targeted at one specifi application - cut 10MB presentation by 2MB pieces, and send them by mail to Windows user. That Windows user doesn't have tar, but has rar. as about arj: compression with it is not so good as with rar, but it does its job (cuts files into smaller pieces, .arj, .a01, .a02, etc) But so far: [vadim@VPlessky vadim]$ arj bash: arj: command not found any plans to add ARJ to Cooker? :-) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Konqueror crash
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 16:30, Pascal Terjan wrote: | Konqueror crashes on http://demo.dacode.org/index,0,1,0,0.html (SIGSEGV) | Hi Pascal! Please send bug report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with first lines like this: Package: konqueror Version: 2.92 (using KDE 3.0beta2) (Linux Mandrake 8.2beta i586) Severity: crash OS: Linux 2.4.x (put your version here) and explain the problem. The best of course when you can provide stripped-down testcase (~1K in size) which reproduces the crash Thanks! | Console shows me : | QTextCodec::~QTextCodec() called by application | QTextCodec::~QTextCodec() called by application | KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 | KCrash: Application Name = konqueror path = unknown pid = 8336 | DCOP: unregister 'konqueror-8336' | | And I don't have debugging symbols so backtrace is quite useless... Good point. KDE3 in Cooker is HUGE in size - but why we can't get debugging symbols from those RPMs? I thought that increased size can be explained by debug.symbols - but it seems I am wrong here... -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
[Cooker] /dev/dsp not found in KDE3
I am wondering why KDE3beta2 installed from Cooker RPMs can't find /dev/dsp on my computer? I satisfied all dependencies for the Cooker RPMs. Besides, sound doesn't work both in KDE2.2.2 and KDE3beta2. Previously I was rebuilding SRPMs, and didn't have such problem. Thanks for the tip :-) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
[Cooker] Kernel in Cooker
I am wondering: if Kernel in Cooker is stable? (sounds like an oxymoron, but...) Most likely, I need to update my kernel, and need to know which one to use. My computer is production machine, I can't afford to hang it installing some not-working (or partially working stuff) About requirement: KDE2 and KDE3 shoudl work fine, together with ESS sound card which doesn't work at a moment (due to KDE upgrade via binary RPMs) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
[Cooker] RAR archiver - pls add to LM / Cooker
Can someone from MDK add rar archiver to Cooker/LM 8.2, please? It's available for several Linux distros, and I am wondering why MDK doesn't have it. Check http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=rarsubmit=Search+... I have taken this source ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/PLD/current/dists/ra/PLD/SRPMS/SRPMS/rar-2.90-2.src.rpm and rebuild it without any problem (except rpm wanted , for some reason, to be built as root) resulting binary (i586) rar works fine. Reason why you may want to use rar, instead of zip: zip can't cut archive into multiple pcs, say, of 1.5MB You may need to send files as an attachment by mail, and as many mail servers reject all mails with attachements 2MB, tool like rar is absolutely necessary to have! -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] RAR archiver - pls add to LM / Cooker
On Thursday 14 February 2002 14:18, Geoffrey Lee wrote: | |Reason why you may want to use rar, instead of zip: |zip can't cut archive into multiple pcs, say, of 1.5MB |You may need to send files as an attachment by mail, and as many mail |servers reject all mails with attachements 2MB, tool like rar is |absolutely necessary to have! | | IIRC, It is non-free, unfortunately. | | We all know that RAR is good but because of licensing issues we cannot do | that. | ahh, I forgot to take a look at its license... sorry. Obviously, Windows users treat all shareware softtware as *free* - but of course you can't include most of it inlo LM. [vadim@VPlessky windows]$ rar RAR 2.90Copyright (c) 1993-2001 Eugene Roshal7 Sep 2001 Shareware version Type RAR -? for help BTW: does it mean that PLD Linux is not so distinctive with licensing issues? | Anyway, there are other ways to split files up -- but it does result in a | bit of inconvenience if you don't know how to join them back up with a | bit of shell scripting. | | - G. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] RAR archiver - pls add to LM / Cooker
On Thursday 14 February 2002 16:34, Han wrote: | Vadim Plessky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: |Reason why you may want to use rar, instead of zip: zip can't cut |archive into multiple pcs, say, of 1.5MB | |You may need to send files as an attachment by mail, and as many mail |servers reject all mails with attachements 2MB, tool like rar is |absolutely necessary to have! | | tar -M | | Groetjes, Han. That's right, but: I forgot to add that sometimes (and this was my case) you need to exchange files with Windows users, in particular with Windoze users using MS Outlook and MS Exchange server, which has exact limit of 2MB in setup. And, those Windoze users do not have tar, and in most cases haven't heard about it!.. I know that most Cookers tend to ignore such *dumb* users, but as I said, I still need to communicate with them... -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
[Cooker] libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.4-2mdk (Cooker) conflicts with libusb0.1-devel-0.1.3b-1mdk
[root@VPlessky KDE 2.2.2]# rpm -Uvh libusb* file /usr/bin/libusb-config from install of libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.4-2mdk conflicts with file from package libusb0.1-devel-0.1.3b-1mdk file /usr/include/usb.h from install of libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.4-2mdk conflicts with file from package libusb0.1-devel-0.1.3b-1mdk file /usr/lib/libusb.a from install of libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.4-2mdk conflicts with file from package libusb0.1-devel-0.1.3b-1mdk file /usr/lib/libusb.la from install of libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.4-2mdk conflicts with file from package libusb0.1-devel-0.1.3b-1mdk file /usr/lib/libusb.so from install of libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.4-2mdk conflicts with file from package libusb0.1-devel-0.1.3b-1mdk -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.4-2mdk (Cooker) conflicts with libusb0.1-devel-0.1.3b-1mdk
On Monday 11 February 2002 10:16, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: | You can't have two development versions of the same package. It has | always been the case. | | -andrej I understand that. :-) In my opinion, rpm should just update package to a newer one, and delete old one. Obviously, this doesn't happen with libusb0.1_4-devel-0.1.4-2md update. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Latest Cooker install - KDE3
On Monday 04 February 2002 20:43, Peter Ruskin wrote: | Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020204 4:33 | | I selected KDE2 and KDE3 for install. Init 5 displays KDM (not sure | which version) with two KDEs and the other WMs. Whichever KDE item I | select I get KDE3. | | I did `telinit 3` and then `startx` = KDE3. But `startx KDE` = KDE2. | Looks like I'll have to do a lot of messing about to get it right. I | notice there's still a space between KDE and 3 in | /etc/X11/wmsession.d/11KDE (which I've just renamed to 11KDE3). Hmm. I just installed both KDE2 and KDE3beta from Cooker. And, there is no WMsession for KDE3 in KDM. Which package provides those sessions for KDM? (or I need to add KDE3 manually?) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Gorgeous Nautilus themes from Ximian. Please include!
On Friday 08 February 2002 04:45, Steve Fox wrote: | Frederic, | | Would you be willing to include the gorgeous new Gorilla (SVG Scalable | version, and PNG Unscalable versions), Ximian South, and Ximian North | themes into Mandrake? | what kind of license do they have? Are you sure that these themes are re-distributable? (there were some restrictions with Eazel stuff, IIRC) | | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/helix/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/ScalableGorilla-0 |.4-1.ximian.1.noarch.rpm | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/helix/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/UnscalableGorilla |-0.4-1.ximian.1.noarch.rpm | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/helix/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/ximian-north-0.9. |1-1.ximian.1.noarch.rpm | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/helix/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/ximian-south-1.3. |4-1.ximian.1.noarch.rpm | | I can confirm that these Red Hat 7.2 RPMs work great on Cooker and the | SRPMS are just in the 'source' directory below those files. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
[Cooker] menu-2.1.5-90mdk - is it really necessary for KDE 2.2.2 upgrade?
I am wondering wether menu-2.1.5-90mdk.i586.rpm is really necessary for upgrade of KDE to the Cooker version (kdebase-2.2.2-43mdk) kdelibs installed ok without menu 2.1.5-90mdk, I have following menu package installed from LM 8.0 [vadim@VPlessky vadim]$ rpm -q menu menu-2.1.5-51mdk During my attempt to install menu, I was forced to update rpm [root@VPlessky KDE 2.2.2]# rpm -Uvh menu* error: failed dependencies: rpm = 4.0.3-0.16mdk is needed by menu-2.1.5-90mdk which in fact asked me to update these packages, 30MB in total: rpm-4.0.3-4mdk.i586.rpm rpm-build-4.0.3-4mdk.i586.rpm rpm-devel-4.0.3-4mdk.i586.rpm setup-2.2.0-23mdk.i586.rpm popt-1.6.3-4mdk.i586.rpm popt-devel-1.6.3-4mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.2.4-24mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.2.4-24mdk.i586.rpm locales-2.3.1.2-6mdk.i586.rpm locales-ru-2.3.1.2-6mdk.i586.rpm locales-en-2.3.1.2-6mdk.i586.rpm locales-uk-2.3.1.2-6mdk.i586.rpm bash-2.05-15mdk.i586.rpm proftpd-1.2.5-0.rc1.4mdk.i586.rpm crontabs-1.9-2mdk.noarch.rpm etcskel-1.63-13mdk.noarch.rpm fileutils-4.1.5-2mdk.i586.rpm finally, I decided not to screw my working install (which is my working/production machine, I use it at office), and installed kdebase with --nodeps And, it's working ok. But, I am still concerned- wether I misssed something, and *should I* upgrade all the packages above? I am especially concerned with upgrade to glibc-2.2.4, currently I have installed: [root@VPlessky KDE 2.2.2]# rpm -q glibc glibc-2.2.2-4mdk I am going now to install KDE3 Beta from Cooker, and want to have it operational. So, please give me your comments/opinions :-)) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Early Comments on MDK 8.2 Beta
On Thursday 31 January 2002 09:23, Yura Gusev wrote: | On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, David BAUDENS wrote: |On Tuesday 29 January 2002 20:06, you wrote: | |Once again, KDE 3.0 will not be included in 8.2 if it is not ready. |'Ready' means that KDE 3.0 need to be in final release and that the |Mandrake's KDE Team + QA Team agree to release it. So, don't hope to |much to see it included in final contribs CDs (KDE 2.2.2 will be the |KDE avalaible in 8.2). | | I tryed KDE for few minutes, used it intensivly and it crashed sereval | times(mostly taskbar when i asked it to use pixmap as a background.) make sure that you have QT 2.3.1, not Qt 2.3.2 | So i'm thinking that maybe just maybe Mandrake will switch to some other | more stable WM, for example IceWM (+ DFM or Evolution for desktop icons). | Because this WM is much faster and stable. Do not mix KDE and KWin (KDE's Window Manager). KWin is pretty fast - it starts under 1 sec. To check it, from the command promt run: #X than: switch to terminal 1 ((Ctrl+Alt+F1) #aterm or xterm than: switch to terminal 7 ((Ctrl+Alt+F7) #kwin so now you will get kwin running, without KDE as I mentioned, KWin starts pretty fast here. | |KDE 3 installation will of course allow users to run KDE 2 or KDE 3. | |Beta versions of KDE 3 will be of course available in Cooker (but only |if when we will have time to do it, i.e. when there will be no know |bugs which need to be fixed in KDE 2). | | Yes, please test all apps. And make 8.2 stable even if you will | have to downgrade or use alpha software. Ask all your developers to | write down any bug or crash on paper, and then go through debug process. | Go and brainstorn every app you mandrake have build. | | For example you can add small hint bar for the MCC, something like | on.area(Configure Local and Network Printers). -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Wireless Network Support in 8.2?
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 18:12, Ben Reser wrote: | On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 04:16:07PM +, Vadim Plessky wrote: |Ok, let me speak about D-Link DWL-650 |It has PC Card Type II bus, and support IEEE 802.11b and WiFi |standards, plus 64/128-bit WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy) Encryption. | | The DWL-650 is just a rebranded WaveLan aka Orinoco aka Lucent card. I guess situation is opposite: one or several from the cards you mention is re-branded D-Link card. Actually, D-Link has big production facility, and many products manufactured/shipped as OEM, under different brands. Plus, of course, under D-Link brand. | Details on making it work are here: | http://www.focusresearch.com/dwl-650.html | (And yes Mandrake already ships the driver) | |DWL-120 | Wireless USB Adapter, IEEE 802.11b, WEP, USB 1.1 | | I would guess unless DLink releases the specs on this it will never be | functional with Linux. I will try to get specs, after Lunar (Chineese) New Year (Feb.16). But: who is the maintainer of that module? (does it belongs to USB or to Ethernet modules) To whom should I send specs if I get them? Cheers, -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Wireless Network Support in 8.2?
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 01:41, Christian Bricart wrote: | On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Ben Reser wrote: |On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 01:32:33AM +, Vadim Plessky wrote: |[..] | | BTW: there are PCI Wireless cards out there, world is not ended at | PCMCIA :-) | |Every single one I've seen is just a pcmcia adapter bundled with a |pcmcia card. Of course someone might be making something different but |it would be the first one I've seen. At least Linksys, SMC, D-Link, |and Lucent all do it that way. | | oh .. at least I have two PCMCIA card in a PCI adaptor card .. and it's | NOT PCMCIA .. it's PLX .. most of the adaptor cards are PLX - which is, | from what I've understood so far, more like a ISA bridge than a PCI .. | that's why those cards are not hot-pluggable Ok, let me speak about D-Link DWL-650 It has PC Card Type II bus, and support IEEE 802.11b and WiFi standards, plus 64/128-bit WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy) Encryption. You can check details depending on the region you are coming from here: http://www.dlink.com.tw/2000e/Product2001/Product/products.html There are also: DWL-120 Wireless USB Adapter, IEEE 802.11b, WEP, USB 1.1 DWL-500 Wireless PCI Adapter, IEEE 802.11b, WEP, PCI 2.1 So, if you both Desktop and Laptop, you insert DWL-500 PCI card into desktop, and plug-in DWL-650 PC Card into this PCI card. Than you can work from your Desktop using wireless connection. Later, you take off PC Card out of PCI adapter, and plug in PC Card into your notebook/laptop. Than you can work on Laptop using wireless. Frankly speaking, I do not know what PLX is. PC Card is somewhat industry standard on laptops, and I don't know why someone would like to use different connector type for wireless adpaters. Hope this info helps a little bit. | | see the orinoco_plx Kernel module under Wireless (non Ham Radio) in | the Kernel for instance .. | | Christian -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Wireless Network Support in 8.2?
On Friday 01 February 2002 06:53, Ben Reser wrote: | On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:21:42PM -0500, John LeMay wrote: |Thanks Ben. Does this mean that the actual driver for the adapter is |already there someplace? With 8.1 pcmcia sees it, but doesn't have a |suitable driver for the card. | | Well 8.0 had most (I say most even though I can't think of one that | isn't included in the pcmcia packages) of the free available ones. | I guess the answer depends on the particular card you are using. | And I don't think you've mentioned that. What info on the Wireless card is needed to add support to LM? (Is it chipset-specific, model-specific?) BTW: there are PCI Wireless cards out there, world is not ended at PCMCIA :-) P.S. Do I understand correctly that Wireless Ethernet card support needs to be added to Linux kernel, or it can be separate module? What are positions of differnet wireless cards vendors on having Linux drivers for their cards? (please share info you have) I know that graphics cards vendors are not very keen to release specs, but may be there is something what we can do about Wireless NICs :-)) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Early Comments on MDK 8.2 Beta
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 22:58, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: | Timothy R. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | As of kde-3.0, I may be wrong but it seems that there is only | little to hope from the user side, between kde-2.2.2 and kde-3.0, | isn't it? | | From what I've seen of it, that would be correct UI-wise, but it is |binary incompatible with kde-2.x applications since it is based on QT3 |(so any KDE 2.x apps would have to be removed/upgraded at the time of |upgrading to KDE-3.0 unless it was some how installed without removing |KDE2/QT2). The main reason I bring this up, is that I know around KDE |2.0's release, a lot of people were rather frustrated that by the time |the latest release of SuSE started showing up in stores (7.0, |mid-September 2000), they had to download 50 megs of software, and many |of the applications included in the system ceased to function or had to |be removed because of dependancy problems. | | OTOH we'll be releasing with a very stable version of kde :-). | That's right. But, at the same time, many CSS, DOM and JavaScript fixes (KHTML, KJS) are not incorporated into KDE 2.2 branch - already for 2-3 months. So, frankly speaking, KDE2 branch was frozen around 3 months ago... By the time LM 8.2 hitted shelves (add 1-2 more months), KDE2 will be completely out of date. Yes, it's still good to have it as a backup solution. But KDE3 (latest beta/CVS) should be included into LM 8.2. That's my opinion :-) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Early Comments on MDK 8.2 Beta
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 20:26, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: | Timothy R. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Now, a few opinions: | | 1.) I'm not sure if you are planning this or not, but have you |considered delaying the distro until the release of KDE 3.0? While you |might still want to keep KDE 2.2.2 the default desktop, you could |either have an option to install KDE 3.0 instead, or a way to install |them side-by-side (i.e. perhaps install KDE 3 to /opt/kde or vise |versa). SuSE did something like this in SuSE Linux 7.1. | | Unless what's generally perceived, we mostly never plan release | date according to third party software release dates (the mostly | is here because for 7.2 we could have kde-1.99 in), because doing | a distro involves many things which are not widely known such as | scheduled development cycle, bugfixing cycle, etc. All our | releases are 6-month away from each other, with a maximum of | 1-month delay according to various things including layout of | bugfixing. | | As of kde-3.0, I may be wrong but it seems that there is only | little to hope from the user side, between kde-2.2.2 and kde-3.0, | isn't it? There is a lot of improovement in KDE 3.0 comparing to KDE 2.2.2 Support for Asian languages is in particluar requires Qt 3.0 and KDE 3.0, which uses Qt3. I can also add that key KDE developers do no accept Bug Report against KDE 2.2 branch - as it's supposed to be closed. Other areas where KDE was significantly improoved: * Konqueror (and KHTML/LJS in particular) - JavaScript engine is re-written - CSS has a lot of improovements (better standards compliance) - DOM has a lot of improovements Besides, KDE3 (I hope) will have support for SVG (via KSVG module) and will even support SVG icons (neither MacOS X nor WinXP has support for SVG icons) SVG support is somewhat critical on a way to standards-compliant Web universe, so it makes sense to upgrade to KDE3 just because of improoved (added) SVG support. Some time ago I claimed that I will develop some SVG icons. Indeed, I did few of them - but I was sticked to KDE2 for some time and could not test them in KDE3. BTW: any chance to see Sodipodi (GNOME application) in upcoming LM 8.2? I used it for making SVG drawings, and despite some limitations program is great, IMHO. (http://sodipodi.sourceforge.net) I second back idea of installing KDE3 and KDE2 in parallel in upcoming LM 7.2 Even if KDE3 is not ready, you can install KDE3 Beta2 in parallel to KDE2 Stable, and allow users to test it and send bug reports to the KDE team. More reporting we get, higher chances that next release will be more bug-free. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Bundling Linux-Mandrake with Networking Hardware
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 15:13, John Kintree wrote: | On Tuesday 29 January 2002 15:30, Vadim Plessky wrote: |I am interested in your opinions: | whether LM can be bundled with some networking hardware, and if answer |is yes, what subset of current LM should be included? | | I like this question. How about a distribution for installation in a PC | that is equipped with both an Ethernet card and a wireless card such as the | Orinoco silver card. The purpose would be to build a plug-and-play | router/firewall/caching wireless Access Point. Some commercial Access | Points already provide most of those features, but lack the caching Web just today we installed router/firewall wireless Access Point in our new office (which is part of product portfolio of the company I am working for) And indeed, it doesn't have caching capability. Do you think that caching capability is very important for such device? And, do you suggest that primary application for LM would be (in your case) Caching Server? interesting part in Wireless technology that 802.11a and 802.11g are coming (in addition to existing 802.11b), and these new technologies, with speed of 36Mbit and 54Mbit, will definitly increase wireless usage. So most likely we will see a lot of new wireless applications soon. | server. LM might be fairly close be being able to provide all of the | required software support. The box in which it would be installed should | have low power consumption because it would be on 24x7. I have to clarify here that company I am working for is not in Server business. Anyway, it seems all major server vendors (Compaq, Dell, HP, IBM) go with their own way in server strategy. They are not very much interested in manufacturing cheap (say, $500-$800) servers, especially at 1U rack-mountable form factor. I guess many people on the list were installing some White Box servers, and configuring it for different tasks. What kind of additional value you will get when you bought, say, managed switch with some customized version of LM? Probably, extra routing capabilities may be interesting for layer 2 (cheap) switch. What can be benefitial for layer 3 switches? Extra possibility to control bandwidth (say, limit to 128Kbit some 10BaseT port)? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
[Cooker] Bundling Linux-Mandrake with Networking Hardware
Hello all Cookers and Mandrake developers! I am interested in your opinions: wether LM can be bundled with some networking hardware, and if answer is yes, what subset of current LM should be included? Reason why I post this question on Cooker list: * there is a lot of network-experienced people subscribed to it. * all subscribed people use Linux, and very well experienced in it both Linux and networking hardware * probably, some people also work in mixed enviroments (with Windows servers and/or Windows workstations) - so you know how you can integrate both together * Mandrake developers read this list - so, it's possible to get input from the first hand I have to admit that I recently took management position in one networking company (mostly hardware), which manufacturers NICs, hubs, switches, print servers, routers, wireless cards/routers, ADSL modems, etc. Visiting company headquarters last week, I used opportunity to talk to Strategic Development Director, and asked him wether company is interested to make some software bundles, in particular, with Linux. After some thinking, he told me that it's definitly interesting option. And asked me to provide some ideas and contacts. Therefor, I'd like to ask all of you what do you think about it. My basic idea behind such bundle is to increase Linux awareness and, may be, provide for Mandrake some long-term growth opportunities (I can send more details to Mandrake people off-list) Despite a lot of claims that Linux is getting ground, it's penetration into corporations and SMB is still quite small. As far as I know, there are no Linux servers or desktops in a company I am working for. :-(( If we managed to penetrate networking /server market first - next step can be Desktop. But I would not go to Desktop bundles for now (while still it can be an option in the fiture, may be, with network interface cards or Wireless cards) In my opinion, Linux provides great flexibility for System Administrators - you can do a lot with it what require much more resources when you use Windows. But most System Administrators are just not aware of this. So, providing an option for them to test Linux and possibly to install/use later is a very good idea, IMO. Question is what Linux apps should be bundled, and how they need to be installed. So, I bed on your experience and opinions, and invite you to discuss topic - either on mailing list or off-list. My Best Regards, -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
Re: [Cooker] Matrox G450 driver opensource'd
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 13:50, Mattias Dahlberg wrote: |BTW: has somebody tried *new* G800? |Does it give NVidia a run? | | What!? There is no such thing as a G800 and no one knows if there ever | gonna be. On the other hand it looks like Matrox will release a 'G550'. | Well, I got info about it (and that performance will be on pair with NVidia GeForce 2 series) last December (2000) It was some kind on NDA. May be, Matrox has problems with matching GeForce 2 performance, and they postponed release for G800? sarcasticMatrox, the only chance to survive you have is to OpenSource all parts of your drivers! (including HAL lib) /sarcastic | Regards, | Mattias -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Reasons FOR Mandrake...
On Monday 09 April 2001 13:42, Randy Kramer wrote: | Fred, | | Thanks for the response! It looks like I misled you -- I'm not sure | anymore wnere I got the rpms for kde 2.1, but the rpms for kde 2.1.1 are | under: | | | http://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/unsupport |ed/i586/kde-2.1.1/ | | which is clearly marked unsupported. Hi Randy! As far as I know, these RPMs should work. I have tested them (here, on my LM 7.2) Please be sure when upgrading that you have satisfied list of dependencies. The only ones I recommend to ignore are db1, db1-devel. Install all other necessary libs, and KDE 2.1.x should work ok after all. In any case, if you still have problems you can write me off-list. | | My mistake, sorry! (But now I understand what is supported and what is | not, thanks!) | | Randy Kramer | -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Netscape 4.77
On Monday 09 April 2001 22:15, J . A . Magallon wrote: | On 04.10 OS wrote: | |Hmmm ! Mozilla has been on the horizon since the big bang ! I keep |trying Mozilla, at least once a week from the nightly builds, but |invaribly I keep going back to good old faithfull ! And Netscape even |renders faster than the latest Mozilla !!! | | No doubt that mozilla is a bloat. They reinvent the whell (ie, the user | interface toolkit) just to do ugly things. | | But since I have tried latest galeon, I definitely never will go back | to netscape. Is fast, has a fine Gnome GUI and look and feel, and | works fine with GTM to manage downloads. Galeon works better every | day. Now it is in an state that with galeon fot http and balsa for mail, | I will never think of netscrap. Can you check pls this URL http://htmltests.newmail.ru Just browse it, and try to select links for different tests. In many cases Mozilla M18 and 0.7 was not surviving such operations, but for Mozilla 0.8 it looks like problem was fixed. From other side, I see this problem again with Galeon + Mozilla 0.8 (not 0.8.1!) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Netscape 4.77
On Sunday 08 April 2001 19:58, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: | The problem is, does the upgrade worth all the troubles merging all | translations to new version... particularly when mozilla is on the | horizon.. | My estimation that Mozilla 1.0 (real *working* 1.0, if 1.0 can work at all :-) will be ready in September-October 2001. Let's say, for LM 8.1 :-)) But I am against updating to NN 4.77, there is a Konqueror, Mozilla 0.8 snapshot, Galeon + Nautilus. If somebody is interested in security fixes, he should try on of those. If your goal is rendering speed and low startup time, go for Konqueror. | On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Con Kolivas wrote: |What's the story behind the new release Netscape 4.77? |Security upgrades it includes in the changelog and various |enhancements. Any idea what either of these are and whether it should |be upgraded? | |Con. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] different localization options
On Monday 09 April 2001 15:10, Pixel wrote: | Marcio Conceicao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |When I installed Mandrake 8b3 and 7.2 I chosse Layout ABNT2 for my |keyboard but in XF86Config-4 the Mandrake put Model "pc105", and I have |manually change this to "abnt2" to run correctly. | |This problem can be fixed in 8.0 final? | | try latest DrakX (1.482), i've just fixed this May be, it is not related to this topic, but: Can I select during LM 8.0 beta install my locale as Russian-Unicode or Russian-cp1251? in LM 7.2, by default it installs Russian as KOI8-R, and I have found no way to change it. The preferable way for me is Unicode/UTF8 and support for Russian. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Huge fonts (the dotted ones)
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 02:14, michael wrote: | On the same lan as my cooker box, which is hosed right now, I have this | 7.2 box. I added another user, and now many of the fonts are those big | dotted ones. Like the names but not what is inside the compose area of | kmail. Or netscape. | | Whattd I do wrong? How do I fixit? XFree86 (KDE ?) can't find *right* font on your system. I have seen the same LED font on my LM 7.2 when installed LM with Russian locales. Well, fix was to add Arial/Times New Roman from Win98. (so, problem was with encoding) And then select *right* fonts in KDE Control Center. Also check what encoding you have in Control Center. If you switched to Unicode (iso10646-1) - it can be a problem in your case as well. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Matrox G450 driver opensource'd
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 12:25, Mike Perry wrote: | Damm things still crippled! | | from their (Matrox) own readme.txt: | | This driver is based on the open source development being done within the | XFree86 Project. The driver remains unmodified, with the exception of the | HAL module, which is a closed source library used to enable features such | as DualHead, TV out, and support for digital flat panel monitors. | I am afraid this is some kind of misunderstanding. Matrox binary driver was always based on XFree86 driver. The only difference of Matrox binary from XFree86 was this HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) module. I don't see what was changed with this announcement. Some people can call this Marketing Mess. | In addition (also from their readme.txt): | | Note: The TV out option is not supported by the G450. This feature is | currently only supported by the G400. | | Not incredibly useful :-( Yep. Especially as Matrox discontinued G400 and G200 in favour of G450. (at least, that was their plans for March 2001, after CeBIT) BTW: has somebody tried *new* G800? Does it give NVidia a run? | | Rgds: | | Michael Perry. | RD. Dep. Netafim Magal. | -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Reasons FOR Mandrake...
On Saturday 07 April 2001 07:18, Alexander Skwar wrote: | So sprach Vadim Plessky am Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 06:11:30PM +: |Cooker / SRPM availability?+ | | Uhm, although *I* find that quite useful and nice - how can I turn this | into an argument? | | Thanks, | Alexander Skwar Well, what I know from SuSE users (and SuSE Linux funs): -- they are very happy with YaST install -- they like configurability, number of options, etc. in SuSE -- latest version, 7.1, available on DVD, so you don't have to swap 6 CDs in order to find some RPM. Also, install process works very smoothly from one DVD disk. what they do not like: -- latest version of SuSE Linux is not available for *free* download during about 1 - 1.5 months after release. This means, for example - if SuSE 7.1 released Feb.16th, most likely you can't download it from ftp (binaries) till March 16th or even later. -- *I* could not find SRPMs even for released long time ago versions (6.4, 6.3) Thanks Arnd Bergmann for the link - but it's rather difficult to find such link yourslef. Haven't tested this link, though. // disclosure: I could not compile SCWM (window manager) from latest tar.gz available on scwm.sourceforge.net. I found that SuSE includes this WM in their distribution, and was looking for SRPM from it. And, I could not find it... Finally, one SuSE user has sent SRPM to me by mail. That SRPM was patched in sopme way, comparing to original tar.gz, and compiled OK for me. -- IMHO it is much more easy to download SRPM from Cooker or latest stable version of LM. *openability* is great argument, IMHO. Now let me propose some *manager-compatible* arguments: -- One great things in Open Source is possibility to fix bugs fast. Frankly speaking, I don't understand *how* SuSE fixes its bugs. They have a lot of packages (3CD's of binaries), and even with 100 people doing testing it's rather hard to catch all bugs. (if not all - than just *many*) When you select Mandrake - you have better *bug fix rate* -- if there is no place like Cooker - how you can report bug you found in Release, and how long it will take to fix? There is no warranty that bug reported to Cooker will be fixed, but there are good chances it *can* be fixed... -- Mandrake decided to wait several *Kernel cycles*. And that's very good IMHO. Mandrake haven't released 2.4.0 or 2.4.1 kernels, because (I guess, correct me Chmouel if I am wrong) they were just too buggy for mainstream. AFAIK SuSE 7.1 was released with very early (like 2.4.1-1) 2.4. kernel. It's ok for experiments/testing, but not for production systems. -- Mandrake has the best KDE packaging (yes I know that you prefer Gnome to KDE, but for some people, incl. manager, it can be good argument) If you look at different KDE lists (-general, -user) - a lot of people complain on missing RPM packages for RH 7.0, many people have problems with upgrading to KDE 2.1/2.1.1 on SuSE and Caldera, but for Mandrake process is (almost) seamless. But, in any case, it looks like SuSE is second best (after Mandrake) for KDE users. Well, answering your initial request for SAMBA usage - I guess any Linux distro (or LinuxFromScratch) will be ok. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Reasons FOR Mandrake...
On Saturday 07 April 2001 08:55, Blue Lizard wrote:
| i agree with this and think also that there are less full figured
| (although less sexy ?:) distros/setups that would fit the job perfectly
| and require less resources.
| Senseless abstract OT example:
| {
| Like don't install 1.6GB of mdk shit on a machine to be used soley as a
| LinuxROUTER. You can boot a specialized distro just for that off a
| f*ing floppy, no hd required!
| }
| So so tired
|
I guess Linux-Mandrake Expert-Minimal setup solves this problem.
I couldn't reach install in 80MB how it was promised by some Mandrakers, but
was able to get it running, together with X, in 180MB. Which is quite good,
IMHO.
BTW: is it possible to install LM 8.0beta3 without X?
And in less than 150MB?
I am still on LM 7.2 footprints so can't test (yet)
--
Vadim Plessky
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Re: [Cooker] Konqueror User-agent
On Thursday 05 April 2001 12:04, Eugenio Diaz wrote: | Any body knows what is the format for the server mask in the user-agent | configuration of Konqueror? What about precedence when there is more | than one definition matching a server? | | For example, if I want to put a definition that applies to all servers | as a default definition, how do I write the server mask, "." "*", or | what? It is not documented in the help, and I couldn't find it anywhere | else. It's not possible (for Level 2 domens) You can apply: *.zdnet.com but can't: *.com Reason: Konqueror should be visible in server logs, otherwise all webmasters will ignore it. | BTW, does any body knows if Konqueror is more standards compliant than | the latest MSIE before 6.0? | Yes. In fact, there are some cases where it is more standard-compliant than Mozilla. You can look at: http://htmltests.newmail.ru (screenshots for Konqueror are for KDE 2.1 Beta2, so current Konqi, 2.1.1 or 2.2 pre-Beta, should perform better) You will be surprised to see how buggy is MS IE 5.0/5.5 DOM implementation in KHTML/Konqueror is very good, CSS handling is pretty good as well. While, of course, there is always a room for improvement. | I have noticed a disturbing trend lately, more and more pages fail to | work nicely with Netscape (specially under Unix) and almost always, when | I look at the URL it is an ASP, and most of the time the error is | something in the lines of "VBscript error at line ### Object this and | that". I started thinking that it is just sloppy programming on an | If you find a site that doesn't work with Konqueror, send bug report to bugs.kde.org | -- | Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE | Linux Engineer -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Monitor detection?
On Thursday 05 April 2001 14:10, Pixel wrote: | "Mattias Dahlberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |I have a Nokia 447PRO and it is in the list of monitors. During the |"recommended" install DrakX didn't ask me what monitor I had, so I |figured it chose 447PRO automatically. But judging from the poor |selection of resolutions (only 640x480 and 800x600) in XFdrake I |suppose it didn't detect my monitor correctly anyway. It did seem to |detect my graphics card, G400, nicely though. | |Nokia's 447PRO easily makes 1024x768 in 120Hz and 1280x1024 in 90Hz. | | the prog used is "ddcxinfos". Try it. I get 30-70 and 50-180: | What package provides this program? Just tried it from command prompt, and this program is not found. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Reasons FOR Mandrake...
On Friday 06 April 2001 10:31, Alexander Skwar wrote: | Hi Cookers! | | In my company, we're going to install some Linux servers, which will be | used mainly for Samba. | I'm going to be asked which distribution we should choose. Obviously I'd | want to take Mandrake and most certainly not SuSE which is also close to | being taken. Could somebody provide me with some "manager-compatible" Cooker / SRPM availability? I was not able to find any SRPMs from SuSE on their ftp site (or on rpmfind) | arguments that would back my suggestion? | Important arguments would be: | | - Acceptance in the USA | - Available support contracts | - Number of Mandrake knowledgable people | - Technical issues | - Standards conformance | - ?? | - Ease of use | - Anything else? | | Now, Ease of Use is clearly a big advantage of Mandrake. How about all | those other things? | | Cheers, | | Alexander Skwar -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Question: XFree86-4.0.3-3mdk srpm compile problem..
On 1 April 2001 13:38, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: | Yes, because glide related binaries/libraries are not built, and it'll | fail generating binary rpm. | | And I've verified my attempt to "fix" things actually doesn't work. | | Maybe need better fix. Anybody out there? | delete in spec file (install section) all lines with word "glide". Then rpm will be able to build binary rpms. (use #rpm -bi --short-circuit specfile, just to omit compilation stage, and than #rpm -bb --short-circuit specfile to build binaries) Actually it was the fix when I didn't have Mesa installed, and kdebase could not find some 3D screensavers... | Abel Cheung | | On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Marcel Pol wrote: | |I got the same problems mentioned. If I remember correct, this was what |I did: |In the Xfree86.spec I deleted the lines |#define has_glide_2 |Or sortalike lines, both for glide2 and glide3. (4 lines) |It compiled fine then. However, it didn't build the rpm's, it quit |after having found the Requires and Provides, without any rpm. |I'm don't know that much about rpm, so I quit there. | -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] new install
On Tuesday 03 April 2001 07:49, joabb2 wrote: | BTW I still use win/Gozilla for d/ld. get 500-600k/bps. | cant get more than 292k/bps with Linux :(( | (yes traceroute and ping are about same) | Do you use Netscape/Mozilla inder Linux? Try Konqueror. I am on dialup, and transfer rate (on ftp download) is higher for me under Linux, comparing to Win98. I am using KDE 2.1 / Konqueror 2.1. | JoAnne -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] more on LM8.0 beta2
On Thursday 29 March 2001 12:29, Eleknader wrote: | |And by the way, I use Mandrake because it is pentium optimized, not |because of something you call a nice gui. | | It's great that Mandrake is pentium optimized. But, for a user point of | wiev: | | I need just one window manager and one desktop. Just _one_. | I'd like to set up things with tools that have exactly the same look and | feel. Problem is that it's rather hard to choose those "one Window manager" and "one desktop". As you see, some LM users choose Gnome, some - KDE. There are also users out there who hate (dislike) both Gnome and KDE... And they use some exotic WM's like evilwm or ratpoison. What I really like in Mandrake that Mandrake guys give us: -- possibility to choose (11 WM's) -- Distribution is still on 4 CD's not on 6 (like SuSE). -- compiler (gcc 2.95 in LM 7.2, patched gcc 2.96 in LM 8.0) can compile important libs/apps, like KDE 2.1 or Gnome 1.4 - without segfault, missing libs, etc. -- I can install Gnome and try "what it is" even if I don't use it. I am on slow connection (56K dialup) so I can't download ISO images or rsync Cooker. So, I select favourite app (KDE 2.x in my case) and download/compile only it. 50MB is so much different from 1.2GB... | | We have a great environment (libralies, tools etc) that are free, and | they work | wery well. Those tools are KDE libraries and KDE Control Center. | Actually, I'd like to be 3rd (all already 4th ?) in backing system-wide KDE control center. For example, i came to my brother's office with laptop and needed to connect to Win2000-based network. Installed DHCP, login - and I don't see network. I am not so familiar with Linux internals, and don't know where to tune details for DHCP client. In NT/Win98 - you can see network if you have support for this installed. Natural way, from my point of view, is to have settings in KDE Control Center, like: - DHCP client - On/Off, then necessary confid details - DHCP server - On/Off, then again details And so on for other parts of the system. Reading man pages is *not the right way* to learn/use Linux!.. | If most people were working for the same goal, maybe we could beat Win in | issues of GUI simplicity etc. There is no use trying to reinvent the | wheel. | Right. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] wheel mouse doesn't work
On Monday 02 April 2001 21:21, Vox wrote: | During the bombing raid on Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:44:02 +0200 (CEST), Pixel |Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | For netscape you need to install imwhell. | |Why then I cannot find imwheel installed even if I told "generic |wheel mouse" during installation?!? | | fixed (i hate imwheel) | | Someone on this list suggested a good way (good for I'm using it!) | to use wheel with out imwheel. It's all reported in: | http://www.pclinuxonline.com/Help___How_To/Netscape/netscape.html | | well, dadou told me that netscape wheel via resources is not as good |as with imwheel :'-( | | And in this, IMNSHO, dadou is wrong. imwheel is an ugly hack to try and | fix things that have been fixed for ages in The Right Way. Mdk should a) | setup the wheel in X with the proper ZAxisMapping option according to the X | version and b) have the correct options for those apps that need to be told | about it, like netscape and emacs. | Here is what I have with Logitech M-C48 mouse (MouseMan with Wheel, *Black* color) Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""MouseManPlusPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #Option "Emulate3Buttons" #Option "Emulate3Timeout""50" # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #Option "ChordMiddle" EndSection -- My mouse (wheel on it, I mean...) works perfectly with KDE 2.1 and Mozilla. | Colas Nahaboo's page has the appropiate settings for all the | wheel-aware apps that aren't smart enough to see it without being | specifically told...it'd rock the world to have all of these stuff pre-set | in Mandrake. The site is: | | http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ | | Vox -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] mozilla won't start
On Tuesday 03 April 2001 08:12, Sergio P.Korlowsky wrote: | On Monday 02 April 2001 14:20, you wrote: |Cooker, 02 April installation: | |[claudio@clag2 claudio]$ rpm -q mozilla |mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk |[claudio@clag2 claudio]$ mozilla |Error sending command. |[claudio@clag2 claudio]$ | |Only for me? | | Claudio | | Nop you're not alone... ;-) | | [admin@sedecomp admin]$ mozilla | Error sending command. | | [admin@sedecomp admin]$ rpm -q mozilla | mozilla-0.8-5mdk I had the same error, and fixed it in a *very strange* way. I have opened Netscape 4.75, then started Mozilla simultaneously. And .. it did the trick!... May be, I did something else as well, but can't remember. | | Sergio Korlowsky -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] KDE 2.1.1
On Tuesday 27 March 2001 09:30, Daouda LO wrote: | Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |How hard to put in 8.0final? (-: | | Maybe the mighty Traktopel is hearing you ;) | Can somebody explain what word "Traktopel" means? Is it something French? // yes, I know that it is codename for LM 8.0 Beta2 | It will be there . -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] YaTE
On Wednesday 28 March 2001 15:12, Greg A. Bur wrote: | Aye. Konqueror is off to a great start IMHO however I absolutely abhor | the look and feel of the KDE interface. A silly reason not to use | Konqueror but reason enough for me. Galeon can't print yet but it's very Yes, I have recognized a nead for *different* KDE _interface_ (look'n'feel). NOTE: Look'n'Feel, not internal architecture ! I have made some themes for KDE 2.1. If you have tried SawFish or IceWm themes - I can tell you that the same themes are almost done for KDE 2.x. Unfortunately, I found some bugs in Kwin and KThemeManager which do not allow me immediately wipe out IceWM, SawFish Co. from hard disk. It looks like to me at a moment that there are 2 solutions: -- either patch KWin and KThemeManager I do not know KDE internals to do it -- to write new WindowManager which will be able to replace KWin. (and, probably, SawFish for Gnome) I like second approach, because it's not normal when you have in KDM 11 (elleven) WindowManagers (and for some reason - no entry for KWin? SuSE has Kwin in KDM !), and half of them uses GTK, the rest - Imlib or pure X. And no QT-based WM, or just another WM capable to work with KDE. BTW: I encourage everybody to look at QLWM - window manager which is based on QT 2.2, instead of GTK. According to author, works very well on 486/33 computer :-)) http://qlwm.get.to Just 4100 lines of code, around 30sec to compile on my machine. That's the way software should be written, IMHO. | stable and does everything I need it to do. As far as e-mail I do miss my | MS Outlook 2000. Damn that program packs some power. I think Evolution Magellan? Thanks to Daouda, it is now in Cooker. | shows promise. Currently I use k-mail out of laziness because I dont' feel | like converting my filters. We shall see what this year brings. I think | Linux is about a year away from making itself a big player in the desktop | arena. There is a great foundation it just needs some polish. | | On Wednesday 28 March 2001 02:25, michael wrote: -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Nautilus - compiled, but no (binary) packages written to disk
On Monday 26 March 2001 17:02, Frederic Crozat wrote: | Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Vadim || It seems this file has not been generated.. | || This will be fixed in nautilus-1.0-5mdk, it's a missing Build | | |dependency on pam-devel |Hmmm... I have checked - I had both pam and pam-devel in that install. |Can be that something else is missing? | | Try to go in your rpm_build_dir/nautilus-1.0/helper-utilities/authenti | cate/ and run make to see if you get any error messages So I did. make in /nautilus-1.0/helper-utilities/authenticate/: -- gcc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -march=pentium -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations -o .libs/nautilus-authenticate nautilus-authenticate.o nautilus-authenticate-pam.o nautilus-authenticate-fork.o ../../libnautilus-extensions/.libs/libnautilus-extensions.so -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lbonobo -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -ldb1 -lgdk_pixbuf -ltiff -ljpeg -lpng -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm -lbonobox -lxml -lz -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lfreetype -lgconf-gtk-1 -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lghttp -lgdk_pixbuf -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lgnomecanvaspixbuf -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl -lpng -lz -lmedusa -lgnomevfs -lgmodule -lgthread -lglib -lpthread -ldl -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm -lgnomevfs -lgmodule -lgthread -lglib -lpthread -ldl -lxml -lz -rdynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl -rdynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgconf-gtk-1 -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm ../../libnautilus/.libs/libnautilus.so -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm -lbonobo -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -ldb1 -lgdk_pixbuf -ltiff -ljpeg -lpng -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm -lbonobox -lxml -lz -lgnomevfs -lgmodule -lgthread -lglib -lpthread -ldl -lxml -lz -lpng -lz -rdynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lbonobo -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -ldb1 -lgdk_pixbuf -ltiff -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm nautilus-authenticate-pam.o: In function `nautilus_authenticate_authenticate': nautilus-authenticate-pam.o(.text+0x179): undefined reference to `pam_start' nautilus-authenticate-pam.o(.text+0x192): undefined reference to `pam_authenticate' nautilus-authenticate-pam.o(.text+0x1ad): undefined reference to `pam_end' nautilus-authenticate-pam.o(.text+0x1c3): undefined reference to `pam_end' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [nautilus-authenticate] ïÛÉÂËÁ 1 [root@localhost authenticate]# rpm -qa | grep pam pam-0.72-12mdk pam-devel-0.72-12mdk pam-doc-0.72-12mdk I heard that some people experienced incompatibilities with newer PAM, so I stayed with 0.72. In any way, there is no strict requirement for newer PAM in Nautilus. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] GConf (libGConf1) - missing dependency on libgtk+1.2
On Monday 26 March 2001 12:37, Frederic Crozat wrote: | Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Vadim | Plessky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit : |While it was building ok, it was missing some necessary libraries after |my first rebuild. [...] |Pls add dependency on libgtk+1.2 to later builds of GConf. | | It should be fixed with GConf 1.0.0-3mdk Super fast response! :-) Thanx! -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Nautilus - compiled, but no (binary) packages written to disk
On Monday 26 March 2001 12:43, Frederic Crozat wrote: | Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Vadim | | Plessky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit : |I have tried rpm -bb on specfile after rpm exited first time (with no |error message, on --rebuild), but it gave the same result: | |# rpm -bb --short-circuit nautilus.spec Processing files: |nautilus-1.0-3mdk | : |(_file not found_) |/usr/src/RPM/tmp/nautilus-1.0-root/usr/bin/nautilus-authenticate | | It seems this file has not been generated.. | | This will be fixed in nautilus-1.0-5mdk, it's a missing Build | dependency on pam-devel Hmmm... I have checked - I had both pam and pam-devel in that install. Can be that something else is missing? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] xine broken?
On Sunday 25 March 2001 18:17, Vincent Meyer wrote: [...] | UNFORTUNATELY... has the same problem that ALL of the DVD players I've | tried - when playing a DVD the image in the playback window is the | upper left corner of the image, ie, the picture is too big for the | window. This happened with two other players (XMovie and LiVid's | OMS), and I'm begining to think this is an XFree problem rather than | a problem with the players Trying to manipulate the window causes | the computer to lock up solid - requiring a power off to reset it. | | The computer is a Gateway Solo 9100 with Trident video chip set, | running the latest XFree from cooker (4.0.3 ? ). | | I haven't tried connecting the vid out to an external monitor yet. | Hopefully later today. | | OTHER than getting a new computer, any suggestions on troubleshooting | this problem? I guess any video player running under XFree86 needs Xv (XVideo extension) In XF 4.0.1, it was only implemenetd for Matrox (G400 ?) XF 4.0.3 has Xv for TDFX, ATI Radeon and Rage 128. Nvidia has Xv in their closed -sourced driver as well. I am afraid that's all the choice at a moment. ATI Mach64 support for Xv is planned for XF 4.1.0 (so you can try XF 4.1 CVS branch to test) | | Vinny -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] cyclic dependency: gal- gnome-db - libglade - gal
On Sunday 25 March 2001 2:02, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: | For all those cyclic dependency, can u resolve the issue and give | patches/point out unnecessary dependencies? | I mostly run KDE (and subscribed on all KDE lists), so these packages are a little bit new area for me. May be somebody who is subscribed to Gnome lists, can clarify those dependencies? Or, ask similar question on Gnome lists? *My solution* was to install libgalde-devel from LM 7.2, it solves gal dependency. Then, I recompiled gal. After it, I have gal-devel, and compiled gnome-db. Then - libglade. Relaced old libglade with newer one. Still I don't knonw if I should repeat cycle to ensure everything is updated (I mean, recompile gal against *newer* libglade...) | On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Vadim Plessky wrote: |I found that during Gnome stuff compilation that there is a cyclic |dependency in these packages: |gal- gnome-db - libglade - gal |to be precise, it is: | |libgal- libgnome-db0 - libglade - gal |and |libgtkhtml- libgnome-db0 - libglade - gal (libgal4) - gtkhtml | |I was able to overcome it by installing *old* libglade and |libglade-devel from LM 7.2. But don't have solution if all system is |built from scratch. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Fwd: [Cooker] why all those dependencies in the Cooker's RPM ?]
On Sunday 25 March 2001 12:56, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: | Nicolas, | |Therefore, there's stg that I find a little puzzling : why is it that |every time a new release (ie MDK 8) is showing, all the RPM packages |suddendly requires dependencies that weren't needed with the latest |"official" release (MDK 7.2 in this case) ? | | Mdk 8.0 has glibc 2.2, while 7.2 has an older one. They aren't | compatible, that's why rpm is complaining. If you want to install the | mdk 8.0 openssl on you're 7.2 machine, then you'll also need to upgrade | glibc, which will then force you to upgrade most other applications as | well -- something you could consider to be a complete OS upgrade. LM 7.2 was binary compatible with LM 7.0 and 7.1 I effectively was using Cooker's binary RPMs for upgrading my LM 7.0 until October 2000 - when LM 7.2 was released (and I obtained set of LM 7.2 CDs, thanks to one kind man on this list) | |Let's take an example : I wanted to try to install the latest openssl |0.9.6 from cooker instead of the 0.9.5 currently in mdk 7.2. Pls be careful when upgrading from OpenSSL 0.9.5 to 0.9.6 They are *binary incompatible*. It is problem with OpenSSL library, not Cooker. You will need to recompile apps depending on OpenSSL in that case. (for example, kdelibs and kdebase ...) |I got a 'GLIBC 2.2' needed, but I don't understand why. Obviously |openssl consists of libraries, so there shouldn't be real dependencies |on glibc 2.2 (I know open ssl 0.9.6 compiles even xith the old libc5), |so why do I get this kind of dependencies ? | | Because with mdk 8.0 they were compiled against glibc 2.2. | |Is that the standard mandrake RPM policy to add require for the latest |GLIBC (instead of requiring for example GLIBC = 2.0) ? Do you use some |kind of predifine macros to build your RPMs that tend to add these |constraints ? Or could I just use '--nodeps' to force insalling those |RPMs ? | The best I can recommend to you here is to grab latest SRPM from Cooker, and --rebuild it on LM 7.2 box. I did it already for KDE 2.1 and Gnome 1.4. So,, I continue to run LM 7.2 and most *important* for me apps on current Cooker level. | --nodeps will install the rpm, but you won't be able to use it, as it | won't run with the old glibc. Actually, you could take the openssl | src.rpm and rebuild it on your system (glibc 2.0?) and the install the | resulting rpm. That will (probably) work. | |I had a similar example hen I wanted to try to install xmms 1.4.1 over |mdk 7.2 - missing libstdc++ dependency. | for xmms - look at mandrake-devel/unsupported. You can find there XF 4.0.2-11, 4.0.3, KDE 2.1, xmms and some other nice apps. |All in all, I find it very annoying to be forced to upgrade the whole |system to install only a few recent packages (not that I don't like |upgrading to the latest MDK distrib, it's just I'd like to do it 'step |by step' before resintalling the whole distrib). | you should try mandrake-devel/unsupported than. Check list of available Cooker mirrors, go to mandrake-devel directory, than unsupported. | Nobody forced you todo anything. Mandrake is working on their next | product, which has the latest stuff in it. You're experiencing some | problems because the latest stuff is built on glibc 2.2 (I guess this is | where innovation hurts). But, since the sources are also available, feel | free to recompile them (src.rp,) for your system, you have the freedom | to do so. I still, personally, wonder what is so grreat in glibc 2.2 And IMHO if they break compatibility they should change major version number. Like, name it glibc 3.0 KDE 3.0 (which is supposed to be binary incompatible with KDE 2.0) goes exactly in this way. Then, everybody knows that dot-zero version can be buggy (and binary incompatible, if major version changed) I belive it will fix a lot of issues for many people. |While RPM was meant to be a format to ease packages update, |it seems |there's a trend with various distrib where upgrading some packages with |those from a more recent distrib is impossible (but not due to missing |libraries functionnalities, due to the way the RPM files are build). I have heard that Debian has very flexible packaging. Haven't tested it though. |Am I all wrong ? I guess the most important is to *include* dependencies. Then you can take control of update process.. Otherwise, you can miss something, and will not know what you are missing and why program is not working. | |Thanks for any explanations on this subject (and congratulations to all |the Mandrake people for such great distribs !) I hope checking mandrake-devel/unsupported can fix a lot of your problems. | | Stefan -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.
[Cooker] libgtk+1.2 upgrade conflicts with install-info from LM 7.2
libgtk+1.2 upgrade conflicts with install-info from LM 7.2 It looks like to me that install-info package is not included in LM 8.0 May be, there is some *right* way for gtk+1.2 upgrade (may be, add some obsoltes and provide for install-info ?), but I had to --force it during install. Hopefully, it hasn't broke something. Pls. ifx it for later builds. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] GConf (libGConf1) - missing dependency on libgtk+1.2
While it was building ok, it was missing some necessary libraries after my first rebuild. # rpm -q --provides libGConf1 libgconf-1.so.1 while http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/cooker//cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS//libGConf1-1.0.0-2mdk.i586.html GConf is a configuration database for the GNOME project. Provides -- libGConf1 libgconf-1.so.1 libgconf-gtk-1.so.1 I found that the reason why GConf --rebuild was not building libgconf-gtk-1.so.1 is missing libgtk+1.2. (LM 7.2 had gtk+ 1.2) Pls add dependency on libgtk+1.2 to later builds of GConf. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Gnome's control-center SRPM - missing GdkPixbuf dependency
Gnome's control-center SRPM is missing GdkPixbuf dependency. Looking at ./configure erors, I found that control-center needs GdkPixbuf , but doesn't have BuildRequirement for it. Most likely, it also needs dependency for esd-devel and imlib-devel (for esd and imlib binaries: gnome-vfs has dependency on it) Here it output from ./configure stage I got rebuilding control-center SRPM [...] checking for usleep... yes checking for flockfile... yes checking for getline... yes checking for X11/extensions/xf86misc.h... yes checking for GdkPixbuf library = 0.7.0... found checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd-config checking for ESD - version = 0.2.5... yes checking for imlib-config... /usr/bin/imlib-config checking for IMLIB - version = 1.8.2... yes checking for gnome-vfs library = 0.9... found [...] -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] cyclic dependency: gal- gnome-db - libglade - gal
I found that during Gnome stuff compilation that there is a cyclic dependency in these packages: gal- gnome-db - libglade - gal to be precise, it is: libgal- libgnome-db0 - libglade - gal and libgtkhtml- libgnome-db0 - libglade - gal (libgal4) - gtkhtml I was able to overcome it by installing *old* libglade and libglade-devel from LM 7.2. But don't have solution if all system is built from scratch. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] control-center - can't find GdkPixbuf (on rebuild)
When I rebuild control-center SRPM, I get following error: # rpm --rebuild control-center-1.4.0-1mdk.src.rpm checking for getline... yes checking for X11/extensions/xf86misc.h... yes checking for GdkPixbuf library = 0.7.0... found checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd-config checking for ESD - version = 0.2.5... yes checking for imlib-config... /usr/bin/imlib-config checking for IMLIB - version = 1.8.2... yes checking for gnome-vfs library = 0.9... ./configure: gnome-vfs-config: command not found ./configure: gnome-vfs-config: command not found configure: error: Did not find GdkPixbuf installed îÅ×ÅÒÎÙÊ ËÏÄ ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÔÁ ÉÚ /usr/src/RPM/tmp/rpm-tmp.29400 (%build) # --- # rpm -qa | grep gdk gdk-pixbuf-xlib-0.10.1-1mdk gdk-pixbuf-gnomecanvas-0.10.1-1mdk gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.10.1-1mdk gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1-1mdk gdk-pixbuf-devel-0.10.1-1mdk - From other side, I can't install (compile) gnome-vfs, as it needs control-center: # rpm --rebuild gnome-vfs-1.0-1mdk.src.rpm õÓÔÁÎÁ×ÌÉ×ÁÀ gnome-vfs-1.0-1mdk.src.rpm ÏÛÉÂËÁ: failed build dependencies: control-center-devel ÎÕÖÅÎ ÄÌÑ gnome-vfs-1.0-1mdk Pls advise how to overcome this cyclic dependency. // cc: me directly, as for some reason I don't have any message from Cooker list from Thursday. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] test
Is Cooker list ok? Latest message I received dated by Wed.21 -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] GConf - needs dependency on OAF
Rebuilding GConf, I found that build fails if OAF not installed (./configure reports that OAF is needed). Installing OAF before compiling GConf fixed problem. Pls add Build dependency in GConf SRPM. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] beta2: Who's who?
On Sunday 18 March 2001 5:40, you wrote: | Okay -- anyone who tried out the beta2 will maybe be glad to see who's | who in the development team. Of course not everybody is here, the rest will | show up if we release a beta3. | | Here's the people, by order of appearance (when the packages get | installed): | [...} I am wondering why Florin Grad is not included in your list. Or you decided to get off IceWm from LM 8.0? :-) IceWm 1.0.6 is in Cooker, and IceWm 1.0.7 was released last Saturday (MARCH 17th) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] IceWm packaging
First of all, small note: IceWm 1.0.7 was released couple of days ago. (March 17th, 2001) Here is small announcement of it from icewm ML: -- Most important features are an improved icesound module, native support for semitransparent windows, colored cursors, theme fonts, a runonce keyword for menu and toolbar files. It also comes with alot of bugfixes, most noteable should be the proper support for GNOME's DoNotCover hint since it solves all the trouble people had with GNOME's panel. There are too much changes to name them all - I'd suggest you to visit http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=27504 for a full list of changes. -- Now, about packaging. I would like to see names of packages changed in Cooker. At a moment, there is "icewm-light" and "icewm" packages. "icewm" consist of icewm-gnome WM (which is mapped to KDM login) and several themes. I guess putting themes in separate package (like icewm-themes) would be great - as this will not require downloading the same themes every time IceWm is updated. Also, I think that IceWm Light should be mapped (wmsession.d) to KDM (GDM) as well - as it is really *light* and has lower memory consumption, comparing to icewm-gnome. From other side, Ice WM 1.0.7 has new default theme, and I am looking forward to try it :-) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Matrox G450 and 8 beta
On Monday 19 March 2001 8:24, you wrote: | Vadim Plessky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | |May I ask somebody to build LM 7.2-compatible binaries and upload them |in /mandrake-devel/unsupported? | Latest what I have seen there were -4mdk :-(( | | done by Giuseppe O, thanks! Started downloading them... Also downloaded Nautilus (SRPM) and going to rebuild it for LM 7.2. Hope, there will be no major issues. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Re: Upgrading kde to 2.1 in Mandrake 7.2
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 11:13, Randy Kramer wrote: | | I am upgrading from kde 2.0 instead of from kde 2.1 beta. Do you have | any additional advice for me based on that? | | Thanks, | Randy Kramer | Hi Randy! Hope message below (originally posted on kde-general ML) will help you. As you have KDE 2.0 (not 2.1 Beta2) - I think install will be even less painful for you. Both of my 2 current setups based on LM 7.2 Expert-Minimal. Note that audiofile is used both by KDE and Gnome. So, you will have --nodeps on upgrading audiofile package if you have Gnome installed. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: KDE 2.1 RPMs [Linux Mandrake] - uploaded to www.astralon.ru Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:11:09 + From: Vadim Plessky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: KDE general mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 06 March 2001 5:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Is there a particular order in which to install these RPM's so as to | avoid conflicts or dependencies issues ? | | Thanks First install libraries: #rpm -Uvh libmng* libpng* libcdda* libbzip2* libaudiofile* libbinutils* #rpm -Uvh libjpeg62* libtdl* libtool* libxpm4* #rpm -Uvh zlib* (I have splitted it in 3 lines, you can update in one line or each package individually) not sure if these packages are necessary but they were generated during SRPM compilation: #rpm audiofile* binutils* cdparanoia* bzip2* then QT2: #rpm -Uvh libqt2* qt2* then kdesupport #rpm -Uvh kdesupport* kdelibs, arts: #rpm -Uvh kdelibs* arts* libarts* // people who were using KDE 2.1 Beta1 and Beta2, most likely already have lesstif installed. if not (it's needed for Netscape plugins support in Konqueror) #rpm -Uvh lesstif* (you can take lesstif from LM 7.2 distribution disks; I have compiled it from sources, but this doesn't matter) kdebase: #rpm -Uvh kdebase* -- I *do not* recommend upgrading via #rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force * As you can break something and have to re-install KDE 2.0 again. Use --nodeps only when you are confident about it. BTW: do not forget to update your xinitrc from /mandrake-devel/unsupported -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gnome-applets-1.3.1-3mdk
On Thursday 15 March 2001 2:40, you wrote: | Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Randy Kramer" | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit : |Greetings, Frederic! |My understanding is that Qt is now open source software, and therefore |KDE, like GNOME, is based completely on open source software. |Therefore, I think the following sentence should be revised |appropriately: "GNOME is similar in purpose and scope to CDE and KDE, |but GNOME is based completely on Open Source software." My suggestion |is something like: |"GNOME is similar in purpose and scope to CDE and KDE." Other |possibilities include: Well, as CDE is not shipped with Mandrake, I guess Mandrake should omit it. So I vote for: "GNOME is similar in purpose and scope to KDE." or just "GNOME is (yet) another Desktop Environment" // as Enligthenment (0.17) is now also becoming Desktop Environment, we will have much more choice in nearest future. I hope description will be changed not only in gnome-applets, but also in other gnome-* packages. |"GNOME is similar in purpose and scope to CDE and KDE, and GNOME (like |KDE) is based completely on Open Source software." "GNOME is similar |in purpose and scope to CDE and KDE, but GNOME (and now KDE also) is |based completely on Open Source software." "GNOME is similar in |purpose and scope to CDE and KDE, but CDE is not Open Source software." |?? | | I'll change description to prevent any further troll :) Thanks! -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Matrox G450 and 8 beta
On Thursday 15 March 2001 8:40, you wrote: | Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] | .../Ed | | I have uploaded a 11mdk which should work fine with G450. Could you | test it ? May I ask somebody to build LM 7.2-compatible binaries and upload them in /mandrake-devel/unsupported? Latest what I have seen there were -4mdk :-(( -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Enlightenment 0.17
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 1:18, Vox wrote: |On Tuesday 13 March 2001 2:56, you wrote: | Will specfile from E 0.16 work for it? (I'd like to build Binary RPM) | | I don't think the specfile for 16 will work on 1717 is made of a | whole lot of stuff that 16 doesn't haveand also, 17 is *barely* | usable at this point (I check it from CVS once a week). You really don't | want to mess with it unless you are going to participate in | development/pre-pre-pre-alpha testing. I am not going to use it every day, I just want to take a look on it. Besides, I want to prepare some themes for KDE 2.1, so I am looking for different sources. :-) I am also thinking about some kind of minimalist Window Manager, have looked through some of them. As it looks like that many people sticked with E, I'd like to know what it is about. May be, I can reuse some parts of its code. | | BTW: Is Imlib2 also not *released*? | | Imlib2 *is* released alreadyso that would be nice...imlib2+ Eterm | 0.9.1...heck, if you do a bug report on Eterm 0.8.x mej will tell you to | go get imlib2 and Eterm 0.9.1, cause he isn't supporting 0.8.x anymore :) Thanks for info. | | Vox P.S. can you write me [probably, off list] what is essential about E, to your mind? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] All your base are belong to us!
On Tuesday 13 March 2001 10:51, you wrote: | On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 04:20:03PM +0100, J . A . Magallon wrote: |Don't be so sure. BeOS MOUNTS audio CDs, there is a file system named |cdfs that lets you see your audio cd as a disk with wavs inside. | |It would be marvelous for linux also. All the tools needed to rip CDs |would be 'ls' and 'cp'. And mp3 encoders could read directly the CD |without any previuous rip pass. | |Mm, I think I'm going to ask somthing in the kernel list... | | it already exists : | http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs/ | you also have | http://www.senko.net/audiofs/ | AFAIK is is already implemented in KDE 2.1. Haven't tested yet, but should work. Besides, you now (CVS) have automatic MP3 ripping :-) Look at messages below. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: audiocd kioslave debut Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:23:15 -0800 Why not add this information to multimedia.kde.org (cvs://www/multimedia) Ooh! a cvs ioslave :) On torsdag 23 november 2000, 12:44 pm, Rik Hemsley wrote: Now, if anyone tells you KDE is crap, open a konqy window at audiocd:/, drag-select all the icons and drop them on your hard disk. Error-corrected ripping to wav files. Now what we need is to see a KDE CD ripper + vorbis * encoder that works with this. Make a noatun plugin for that :) And in addition, this makes audiocd://bleh/file1.wav possible with two exceptions: o If KURL::isLocal is false, it'l copy the file to the disk and then play it. (is that a missing feature in KIO I feel? KIO::isLocal(KURL) where it'd check if that protocol is identified as "local" or "remote" (also known as "slow" and "fast" :) o arts tries to load wav files into memory We could do audiocd://vorbis/track1.ogg where it automagically encodes. Oh, how about CDDB support? ;) Subject: MP3 in audiocd: Setting advanced options ? Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:38:09 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! Today I finally got some time and tried the new "on the fly" mp3 encoding in audiocd: - and found it absolutely amazing. I can't imagine grabbing the CD more easy! However, using lame manually, I'm using the following parameters: lame -m j -v -b 64 -B 256 (--vbr-new with a latest lame-3.88) i.e. using joint stereo and variable bitrate going from 64 to 256 kbps with default quality. It gives me very good results. Now I wonder: Will it be possible to have more freedom to configure the encoder later ? I'm voting for a fixed, one-time setting (maybe kcontrol [...] -- | but for audio cd quoted from this page : | "Note that audio tracks are `exported' by cdfs because they are on the | CD. However, cdfs will make no attempt to correct reading errors while | reading fromscratched disks, to solve misalignment, | frame jitter, loss of streaming, etc. You should use cdparanoia or | cdda2wav if you encounter these problems." | | yves -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: Kmail and imap (RE: [Cooker] Workable fix for fonts under QT 2.3)
On Tuesday 13 March 2001 4:54, you wrote: | So sprach Ed Wilts am Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 06:36:15AM -0600: |Use fetchmail to pull your mail into a local mailbox, and then have |KMail read it from there. I use this technique for reading my mail |from a POP server, but fetchmail supports IMAP too. | | Yes, this will certainly work - but doesn't this completely defeat the | advantages of an IMAP account? | IMAP support in Kmail is planned for KDE 2.2. Magellan (KDE 2.x mail client) will have IMAP support soon after first release (appx. May 2001) // according to info from its developers | Alexander Skwar -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Eazel, Nautilus
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 3:52, you wrote: | I just read an article tonight on Eazel laying off half of their staff at | | http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20010313/tc/eazel_lays_off_more_than_half_i |ts_staff_1.html | | and was interested to see a little note on Mandrakesoft: "French firm | MandrakeSoft has been shifting away from desktop use in favor of servers." | | Anybody have any idea if this true or is it just media BS? And the same article was published on C-Net: Eazel lays off more than half its staff http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5126473.html?tag=mn_hd BTW: Can I run Nautilus with Gnome 1.2, or Gnome_1.4_Beta is needed? Can RPM(s) for Nautilus be compiled for LM 7.2 and placed in /mandrake-devel/Unsupported? I am running KDE 2.1, but would like to give Nautilus a try. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Summary of Qt AA font issues [and XFree86]
On Tuesday 13 March 2001 11:37, you wrote: | Ok, it seems I have it generally working now. I have attached a patch to | kdelibs that lets KDE Applications use the font substitutions defined in | XftConfig and lets users select fixed width fonts. | It seems that both Qt and XFree86 are far from complete with regard to | Antialiasing support, but this will help work around the biggest | problems. What version of QT do you use? Recommended version is QT 2.3 (not 2.2.4). As about AA in XFree86 - ATI (mach64) support was added to XF *after* XF 4.0.2 release. I don't know which branch of XF RPM in Cooker is based on, but XF 4.0.99 (pre-release of 4.1) most likely has the best AA support for different cards/drivers. I have also heard from Vladimir Dergachev that Xv support for ATI cards can be added to XF 4.1 (have no confirmation about it, though...) AFAIK Cooker still has XF 4.0.2. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Enlightenment 0.17
Enlightenment 0.17 was announced some time ago. From what I have seen on Rasterman's site (www.rasterman.com), it has many improvements and new features, comparing to E 0.16. I have checked Cooker - it still holds E 0.16. Do you plan to update it? (imlib2 is also missing) "... a *LOT* of work has been going on building our own subsystems for E17. This has meant Imlib2, Evas, Ebits, Ecore, and Edb so far. cK has been doing a lot of work lately on Efsd, and Mandrake should complete his work on Etox sometime soon, hopefully. Imlib2 is the abstraction layer that handles the raw nasty work of loading images, saving them, rendering them to a drawable or blending and scaling them onto other images, software anti-aliased truetype fonts and other goodies. This one is pretty much done and finished with. It gets minor updates and fixes as needed, but otherwise is left alone. Evas is a canvas abstraction that uses Imlib2, as well as OpenGL, and X11. It serves as a canvas accelerator and abstraction and does the job really well. It has made building E17 trivially easy - at least the rendering parts. This should continue to make things easy, as well as provide a good acceleration mechanism. Ebits is a higher level abstraction of image groups built ontop of Evas. Basically it's what the old E16 window border logic was - but on steriods. It can do a WHOLE lot more and is being used as the basic building block for all widgets in E17. A GUI editor is also there called Etcher - it can edit Ebits files - thus letting you have a nice GUI to desing your widgets, window borders etc. in. Ecore is a nice conveneince library. It handles abstracting X calls so you don't have to pass as many parameters to them. It wraps lots of other sequences of X calls you want to do often, handles caching local geometry of windows to save extra X traffic, abstracts X's events and adds a timer system to be able to do timeouts, handles the core event loops, abstracts signals into being events in the event queue, and lets you arbitarily add other file descriptiors to the loop to listen on and have handlers be called when they become active, and much much more. Ecore also handles filtering events and calling idle handlers when appropriate. Ecore is just what it says - a very complex CORE subsystem. It is all callback based, and keeps everything abstracted - but does not move away from normal X11 primitives like other abstractions (gdk for example), thus keeping 100% compatability with normal Xlib stuff. The core innards of E17 rely heavily on Ecore and its ability to not just work, but work well and optmize silently for E17. " - It also would be nice to hear from Mandrake what is Etox, on which Mandrake people working? :-) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Enlightenment 0.17
On Tuesday 13 March 2001 2:56, you wrote: | Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Vadim | | Plessky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit : |Enlightenment 0.17 was announced some time ago. From what I have seen |on Rasterman's site (www.rasterman.com), it has many improvements and |new features, comparing to E 0.16. I have checked Cooker - it still |holds E 0.16. Do you plan to update it? (imlib2 is also missing) | | E0.17 has been announced but not released !! | | We wait for released version.. Ok, may be I will try tar.gz from them. Will specfile from E 0.16 work for it? (I'd like to build Binary RPM) BTW: Is Imlib2 also not *released*? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Enlightenment 0.17
On Tuesday 13 March 2001 11:17, you wrote: | It also would be nice to hear from Mandrake what is Etox, on which | Mandrake | people working? :-) | [...] | with the new version. And "Mandrake" in this case would be Geoff | "Mandrake" Harrison, | which is used the name mandrake long before Linux-Mandrake existed, see | mandrake.net . yes, thanks for the link. I didn't know about that guy. It's interesting if he is subscribed to any of Mandrake lists? :-) | | Joakim Bodin -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Mach64 DRI support in XF / Cooker
Tuesday 23 January 2001 18:07, Thierry Vignaud ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: | Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | 1) if ATI Mach64 DRI support from DRI CVS is integrated into current | XF 4.0.2-4mdk ? | |is there a kernel driver ? | | there's some development in dri cvs about mach64 (don't remember the | branch name). At the moment, it fallback on software rendering, so you | want glx for a moment. Here is a message from Gareth dated Dec.17th. There is a basic DRI structure implemented for Mach64, while some functions use acceleration, some - fallback on software. As Gareth said, Quake is *playable* with this driver, while of course it [driver] is not very stable. Hope it helps to all interested people. (well, it doesn't help me, as compiling DRI CVS is too big adventure for me :-) -- ðÅÒÅÓÌÁÎÎÏÅ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ -- Subject: [Dri-devel] mach64 worklog 20001217 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:41:31 +1100 From: Gareth Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dri-devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] demos ./gears -info GL_RENDERER = Mesa DRI Mach64 20001217 Rage Pro PIO x86/3DNow! GL_VERSION= 1.2 Mesa 3.4 GL_VENDOR = Gareth Hughes GL_EXTENSIONS = GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_tranpose_matrix GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_histogram GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_MESA_window_pos GL_MESA_resize_buffers GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_PGI_misc_hints GL_SGIS_pixel_texture GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp 1112 frames in 5.003 seconds = 222.267 FPS 1121 frames in 5.003 seconds = 224.066 FPS 1121 frames in 5.003 seconds = 224.066 FPS 1121 frames in 5.003 seconds = 224.066 FPS 1121 frames in 5.003 seconds = 224.066 FPS 1121 frames in 5.004 seconds = 224.021 FPS 1121 frames in 5.002 seconds = 224.110 FPS 1121 frames in 5.003 seconds = 224.066 FPS 1121 frames in 5.003 seconds = 224.066 FPS System: 600MHz Duron on ASUS A7V, 128MB RAM 8MB Rage Pro (OEM generic?) Client-side PIO only (ie. a complete hack until DMA is done). Working on texturing now, hopefully be able to play Q3 tonight... -- Gareth -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Mach64 DRI support in XF / Cooker
Sunday 21 January 2001 19:41, Chmouel Boudjnah ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: | Vadim Plessky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |Can somebody give me idea: |1) if ATI Mach64 DRI support from DRI CVS is integrated into current XF |4.0.2-4mdk ? | | is there a kernel driver ? No idea. Gareth, can you help with answer? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Mach64 DRI support in XF / Cooker
Hello All, I have one mail from user who needs DRI support for ATI Mach64. He is not developer/programmer, and can't himself compile DRI CVS. Can somebody give me idea: 1) if ATI Mach64 DRI support from DRI CVS is integrated into current XF 4.0.2-4mdk ? 2) if not - are there any chances this happens in nearest future? 3) may be, there are other ways to get ATI Mach64 DRI working (i.e. not upgrading X?) I know from Gareth Hughes's (the guy who is developing this driver) mail on DRI-devel that he finally managed to get MACH64 DRI working. But, I have no idea *when* and *how* DRI support is moving into XFree. Mandrake was always very fast preparing new packages, may be that guy will stop on Mandrake (not SuSE, Caldera) finally in his searching for nice distribution? I am also running Mach64 on notebook, so for sure I am also interested to get this working. May be, somebody already has LM 7.2 binary RPMs with DRI support working for ATI Mach64? Or SRPMs ? (Then I can build for this guy and myself, and any other people interested ) Many thanks in advance! I will wait until my distro (Mandrake Linux) will pack this DRI support for mach64 as part of XFree86. But I don't think that it will happen in nearst 3 months... I was trying to persuade Suse, the distro I am using at the moment, to pack this driver in their distro since it would be a very interesting thing for all Laptop users (and the ones who want to use Linux on a laptop and don4t know which Notebook to buy, yet. Sadly, the rage pro is the only 3D-accel capable chipset for Notebooks that you can buy.) Anyway, Suse basically told me to p*ss off, so I asked Caldera who have been more friendly, but also gave me a negative answer. BTW the figures for gears look pretty good actually, Even though the card is not fast enough for the newest of the newest games I still can use it for demos, molecular modelling etc. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Is Linux Mandrake vulnerable to Internet Worm?
See details here: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4508359-0.html Internet worm squirms into Linux servers By Robert Lemos Special to CNET News.com January 17, 2001, 9:25 a.m. PT An Internet worm cobbled together from generally available hacking tools has compromised hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Linux servers by using two well-known security flaws in applications set up during the default installation of Red Hat Linux software. Now, comes the question: is Linux Mandrake vulnerable to this Internet Worm? If not, Mandrake should make a press release and send it to C-Net news, IMHO. By the way, you can post your comments related to this article (What's your take? section) on the same web page. may be, somebody from Mandrake team can post comment/opinion? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Is Linux Mandrake vulnerable to Internet Worm?
Thursday 18 January 2001 12:35, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ: | On Thursday 18 January 2001 08:31, you wrote: |See details here: | |http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4508359-0.html | | In short, no. The wu-ftpd suexec hole that it's talking about was fixed | in June, 2000. Now, if you're sloppy and haven't been updating security | fixes, then you could be in trouble. | | I typically pay attention to the security announcements in lwn.net and am | happy to see that Mandrake is usually in the first group of vendors to | release security fixes. It's one of the reasons I chose Mandrake as my | supplier. | | .../Ed Thanks, Ed! Should somebody write a letter to C-Net that Mandrake doesn't have this hole? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Mp3 encoder
Sunday 07 January 2001 01:55, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ: | The compiled version is not authorized | The source code is allowed | | That's why the windows version is hosted in Russia | Wow! It's not far away from me!.. :-) Can you point out where is the location? | Stupid laws | | CU | Stef | | Le Dimanche 07 Janvier 2001 01:20, vous avez ?crit : | [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ?crit : | I think that ripping and encoding mp3 and even sharing using | napster is very usual nowadays. | Mandrake 7.2 includes grip and paranoia, but to complete the use of | grip it is necesary also an encoder, like lame or bladeenc. I have | used both and are very stable. Why do no put in the cooker and in | the next mandrake release lame and bladeenc rpms? | | They were included in Mandrake 7.0, but were removed for copyright | problems. Neither of them are free, if i can remember. | |Don't know about that but i seem to recollect that they were both gnu |and that the problem were the fraunhofer-patents | | -- | Guillaume Rousse -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Galeon rebuild error
I have successfully built Mozilla M18 (and runnning it now on LM 7.2, not on Cooker). Then I have tried to built galeon. I get following error during compilation: -- c Galeon-skels.c c++ -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -march=pentium -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimi zations -o galeon-bin main.o browser.o spinner.o misc_callbacks.o prefs_callbacks. o find_callbacks.o bookmarks_callbacks.o browser_callbacks.o mozcallbacks.o gtm.o bo okmarks.o prefs.o mime.o misc.o history.o session.o netscape.o portal.o auto_complet ion.o history_callbacks.o mozilla_prefs.o context.o mozilla.o Gtm-common.o Gtm-stubs .o Galeon-common.o Galeon-stubs.o Galeon-impl.o Galeon-skels.o -rdynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -rdynamic -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk -lgdk - lgmodule -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl ../intl/libintl.a -L/usr/lib -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitut il -lglib -lm -L/usr/lib -lglade-gnome -lglade -L/usr/lib -lxml -lz -rdynamic -L/usr /lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -rdynamic -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk -l gdk -lgmodule -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 - lglib -ldl -L/usr/lib/mozilla -lgnorba -lgtkembedmoz -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -lgt ksuperwin -lxpcom -lpthread -lxml /usr/bin/ld: warning: libxml.so.1, needed by /usr/lib/libglade-gnome.so, may conflic t with libxml.so.2 mozilla.o(.rodata+0x3d8): undefined reference to `nsAutoString type_info node' mozilla.o(.rodata+0x42c): undefined reference to `nsString type_info node' mozilla.o(.rodata+0x4b8): undefined reference to `nsCAutoString type_info node' mozilla.o(.rodata+0x4d8): undefined reference to `nsCString type_info node' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [galeon-bin] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/vadim/rpm/BUILD/galeon-0.8/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/vadim/rpm/BUILD/galeon-0.8' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Bad exit status from /home/vadim/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.83438 (%build) [root@localhost SRPMS]# -- Environment: #rpm -qa | grep mozilla mozilla-5.0.0-0.M18.4mdk mozilla-devel-5.0.0-0.M18.4mdk #rpm -qa | grep libxml libxml-1.8.9-3mdk libxml2-2.2.2-2mdk libxml-devel-1.8.9-3mdk libxml2-devel-2.2.2-2mdk Any ideas why I get undefined references? What I should install/uninstall? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] libPNG 1.0.8
Sunday 24 December 2000 00:05, ?? : | On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:49:28PM +, Vadim Plessky wrote: |There is a libpng 2.x on its development site. |Are there any plans to put it in Cooker? | From the sourceforge libpng corner, the latest beta release is | | 1.0.9rc1 | i think a 0 is missing you.. | or it is me. where did you find libpng 2.x ? (url?) | yves There was libpng 2.x (2.1? 2.0.1?) on rpmfind.net, packages was coming from SuSE. I was also surprised, as only SuSE had this package. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] GATOS on Linux Mandrake
Hello, I just wondering if somebody successfuly running Gatos on LM 7.2? What do I need to get it working? Compile instructions on Gatos site are very confusing, and I don't know if I missed some components when was compiling it. At least, compiled Gatos doesn't work for me... My hardware: ATI Rage Mobility (Mach 64, 8MB) -kernel 2.2.17-21mdk -XFree86 4.0.1-28mdk from LM 7.2 Do I need to install 2.4 kernel to get Gatos working (in this case, I would prefer to wait 2.4 *final*)? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] XF --rebuild problems
I installed both Glide_V3-devel and Glide_V2-devel (--force) before compiling latest XFree. But, for some reason, it doesn't help. XFree SRPM just reject to install (and doesn't display any special *requirement* for additional packages to be installed) I have standard, *stock* LM 7.2 install. Any thoughts? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] problem with XFree 4.0.2
I agree with Steve: your font server is not running. I found that sometimes it happens when you are limited on disk space. Check that you have at least 150MB on your HDD, and reboot computer. I was getting such message with 60MB of free disk space. Annoying, isn't it? Friday 22 December 2000 12:46, Shalrath ???: | On a stock 7.2 box upgraded to cooker recently: | | XFree86 4.0.2 reports | _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 | failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' | Fatal server error: | could not open default font 'fixed' | | | i have *4.0.2-1mdk* installed, and have tried with multiple video cards. | what could be wrong? | | | Jason -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Ice WM 1.0.5
Wednesday 20 December 2000 16:03, ?? : | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vadim Plessky) writes: |Any chance to see in Cooker IceWM 1.0.5? | | Hi there, | | they seem to have some problems on their 1.0.5 version ... | anyway all the new "features" of the 1.0.5 version are already in the | mandrake 1.0.4 version. They simply have put all that in the standard | distribution. They have even split icewm into several packages (lite and | all) and added that to their Makefile (the --enable-lite option). We have | done that more than a year ago... hello Florin! thanks for your mail. If all major features are integrated into 1.0.4, I see no reason to rush for 1.0.5 Anyway, looks like they have IceWM 1.1 development tree, let's wait if something comes out of that tree. :-) | I have succsessfully compiled it and have been running it on my computer | for a few days now. | | I'd wait a bit before putting it on the cooker because I don't have | really time to fix the bugs for the moment. | Or I'll add it on the cooker and wait a bot before fixing the bugs ... | | cheers, -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Xfree 4.0.2
Thursday 21 December 2000 08:19, ?? : | I'd pay a subscription fee for a service that backported certain | "interesting" packages from cooker to the release version if it meant I | could see them in say, maybe a month of release time. Why pay money? | To encourage speedy releases, and to benifit from the integration that | Mandrake does well with all of the other software packages installed on | the system. Does Mandrake offer a service like this? I doubt that such service will work. RedHat claimed (just few days ago) that they have 60 000 subscribers to "Red Hat Network" But, it's now in "testing" mode, when you pay nothing. Let's see how may of these 60 000 subscribers will agree to pay $9.95 per month for software updates. Several companies have 5 of more computers with Linux installed. Will they pay 5x $9.95, or just download once updates fior one computer, and re-distribute it to 4 others? I personally, would subscriber to such service, if, for example, software updates on CD, once per month, are mailed to me (by post service, not by e-mail). Yes, I have slow connection, and can't download Cooker or any *latest* release, which is close to 1.2GB just for binaries. | | Just trying to keep pace with Open Software... | | Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: |"Hoyt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |Yes, it's a lot of work, but it gives the impression that you don't |support your product in the way a consumer understands support. It's |also an argument for not having so many point releases and further |illustrates that Linux is really still in development. None of this is |good from an advocacy viewpoint, but it is the way "business is done". | |I have several arguments to oppose to that: I don't want to "oppose" Guillaume, but IMHO: - Linux is really still in development - this is not good from an advocacy viewpoint (yes, how you can convinience customers to move to *development* platform) and: -KDE 2.x, which is in development, is better to have as upgrade. KDE2 builds for LM 7.2 work on LM 7.0 and 7.1 I don't know if you track you customer base (6.0, 6.1, 7.0, etc.) It will be good if you drop all them a mail saying that there is a new KDE2 which is recommended as upgade. -XFree86 [4.0.2] - you should recommend as upgrade to all people as well. You need it just to load X when your video is ATI Radeon or NVidia GeForce 2. These adapters are not supported in 4.0.1, not speaking about 3.3.6 (and AFAIK there are no plans to backport Radeon and GF2 drivers to 3.3.6) | |- we are not in the usual business, a "consumer" is to be understood | differently, because some of them did not pay us any direct money for | using our products (the downloads) so we feel less stressed to fit |their direct needs (nvidia and aureal drivers are another good example |of what "consumers" deadly want) ; also, the price of our product is |very very low compared to the products that get this support ; for |example Microsoft don't provide free (in the sense of free of price) |updates for anything (except very strategis things like Internet |Explorer where their aim is to kill the opponents not to make a normal |living from the product) Let me suggest once more: many of these problems will be solved, if Linux Mandrake appears pre-installed on PCs. It doesn't matter - is it white-box or brand-name. Unfortunately, it looks like that Mandrake doesn't have any bundled deals. Despite the fact that Henri Pool was promising such deals in August 2000, just after his appointment. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Xfree 4.0.2
Thursday 21 December 2000 11:58, Guillaume Cottenceau ???: | Neal Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |I'd pay a subscription fee for a service that backported certain |"interesting" packages from cooker to the release version if it meant I |could see them in say, maybe a month of release time. Why pay money? |To encourage speedy releases, and to benifit from the integration that |Mandrake does well with all of the other software packages installed on |the system. Does Mandrake offer a service like this? | | This is currently under question here at MandrakeSoft :-). I hope not for Cooker? Otherwise, it will be really hard to achieve *stability* What I like in Mandrake at a moment, that it runs out-of-the-box. (just with few small exceptions :-) Idea of _paid_ service is great, but do you understand that, in this case, customer will not *ask*, but *require* QUALITY? And missing support for something can result in legal suites, or long and painful product returns/reimbursements. /I just can't imagine you put KDE 2.x, Gnome 1.x/2.x or XFree86 in such package; they all are *developing* versions; or, you are going to stick to Mandrake kernel + Apache? by the way, it's not bad. If you can make your warranty on *working on my equipment* Apache and Sendmail - there is a reason to pay you for this; but, AFAIK, SendMail have now commercial version, which is supposed to be coverd under warranty/tech support... And you need a lot of technical support stuff to cover this. And prompted response time... / -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Xfree 4.0.2
Thursday 21 December 2000 15:05, ?? : | Vadim Plessky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || || This is currently under question here at MandrakeSoft :-). | |I hope not for Cooker? |Otherwise, it will be really hard to achieve *stability* |What I like in Mandrake at a moment, that it runs out-of-the-box. |(just with few small exceptions :-) | |Idea of _paid_ service is great, but do you understand that, in this |case, customer will not *ask*, but *require* QUALITY? | | Yes. | | This would be probably something like a fee to select your favorites apps | and receive them either by snailmail on cdrom's or by the net for latest | stable release. | | They would of course be fully tested (but this require some more | resources here). With CD-ROM delivery, it would be nice. I vote for it. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Ice WM 1.0.5
Any chance to see in Cooker IceWM 1.0.5? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] libPNG 1.0.8
There is a libpng 2.x on its development site. Are there any plans to put it in Cooker? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] kdebase SRPM fails on compiling
Hello Chris Daouda! kdebase (from ftp://nebsllc.com/pub/KDE_UPDATE, downloaded this night) fails during compilation on: kcontrol/ebrowsing/plugins/ikws in file included from kuriikwsfilter.h: 25 kuriikwsfilter.h: 32 /usr/include/klibloader.h:28, ltdl.h : no such file or directory I have checked /usr/include/, there is klibloader.h, but there is no ltdl.h . (QT 2.2.3, kdesupport, kdelibs compiled correctly; sop, system environment is XF 4.0.1, QT 2.2.3 and kdesupport/kdelibs from your SRPMS) Compiler: gcc 2.95.2, from LM 7.2 *release* What can be wrong? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] Some Linux versions can't handle Pentium 4 - is mandrake among them?
Some Linux versions can't handle Pentium 4 source of the article is here: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4102829-0.html?tag=st.ne.ron.lthd Can somebody with LM 7.2 comment - does it work with Pentium 4? I believe the only problem can be is motherboard chipset support (I don't belive somebody has Pentium-4 optimized kernel, compiled with extra pentium-4 instructions) And, I also invite everybody subscribed to Cooker to visit that page and put your comments (there is some kind of duscussion forum for every article on C-Net) It can give some more visibility to MandrakeSoft Linux Mandrake, and everybody will benefit from it, IMHO. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] AMD reduced prices - Athlon 1.2GHz is only $254 now
Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/15363.html I hope it presents some reasons *why* we should have LM binaries optimized for Athlon. Dual-processor Ahtlon motherboard is expected in Q1'2001. It also *refreshes* talks about Alpha - as Alpha and Athlon share same bus design. *** AMD chops chip costs By: Andrew ThomasPosted: 11/12/2000 at 10:57 GMT Not to be outdone by Chipzilla's price cuts today, AMD is chopping its prices too. A 1.2GHz Athlon is now $254, while other Athlons are reduced as follows: 1.1GHz - $223 1.0GHz - $179 950MHz - $161 900MHz - $143 850MHz - $125 800MHz - $110 750MHz - $95 700MHz - $85. Duron prices go down too. An 800MHz part is now $79, the 750MHz is $65 and the 700MHz, $55. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Builds for alternative architectures [Re: [Cooker] QT2 i686]
Sunday 10 December 2000 23:27, Geoffrey Lee ???: |By the way, does it make sense to have documentation header files |specified as "i586"? |IMHO, it should .noarch. | | Yes you are rgiht but IMHO you can't do that since if you do noarch the | whole package will be noarch, which is wrong! | There is no big problem at a moment, but I hope we will have Alpha and PowerPC ports some time later. It will be really stupid to have QT2-doc-xxx.i586.rpm, QT2-doc-xxx.alpha.rpm and QT2-doc-xxx.powerpc.rpm, as they are exactly the same docs. (same is valid for for -devel rpms) And, I hope we will have AMD Athlons builds as well... (even if they are not officially supported by Mandrake I believe there is a group of enthusiasts which can handle it) Question will be again - what to do with QT2-doc-xxx.athlon.rpm ? It will just waste yours/mine HDD space if there is already i586 version on it. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?
Sunday 10 December 2000 04:02, ?? : | Vadim Plessky wrote: | | Vadim, | I would be VERY interested in getting copies of the spec files for both | qt-2.2.2 and KDE 2.0.1. I've already downloaded the source for all but | I prefer to build the rpms myself (I'm not really enamored of the idea | of using -ffast-math with and optimization level of 3) Also the CPU I | have is a K6-2 450MHz. Would it be possible to post the spec files | somewhere? | | Thanks and best regards, | Arnold Troeger I used standard SRPMS prepared by Chris (before he swicthed to his new job!) If Chris doesn't mind, I can post it. Chris? Hopefully, spec files are MUCH less then binaries. :-) Unfortunately, my provider allows me only 30MB of space on server, and my KDE site together with htmltests already took some portion of it. And, they do not allow .zip and .mp3 files to be placed on server. But, rpm has different extension, I will try today :-) As about AMD-specific builds. I was asking about it several times. It looks like we will have them when gcc 3.0 *final* arrives. I can't afford to install Cooker on my machine, so I am still sticked to gcc 2.95 and LM 7.2. By the way, why you don't want to use -ffast-math and -optimization level of 3 ? I am not so familiar with gcc, so any advise can be helpful. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
[Cooker] QT2 i686
I uploaded QT-2.2-2 compiled for i686 architecture to my site: http://htmltests.newmail.ru/qt2-2.2.2-1mdk.i686.rpm Uploading speed was very low, so I was not able to upload qt2-doc and -devel But I guess they should be the same with i586 architecture. By the way, does it make sense to have documentation header files specified as "i586"? IMHO, it should .noarch. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?
7 ??? 2000 06:22, Christopher Molnar ???: | On Wednesday 06 December 2000 22:03, Zeljko Vukman wrote: |On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote: | On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote: | Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This | is a BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current | users of Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the | mandrake update facility. | | Should have waited. It is being worked on. | | BTW all those downloading from nebsllc.com , those are not 2.0.1 they are | from the HEAD cvs path. When you "upgrade" to 2.0.1 you will loose | features. | | look at the source dates. They are from before 2.0.1 was announced. | Sorry. IMHO, the most important now is to get KDE pre-2.1 working, and add *so-needed* features still missing in it. QT 2.2.3 is very close now, I personally would recommend everybody to wait QT 2.2.3 until planning serious upgrades. XF 4.0.1[f,g,h,...] is moving and moving forward. XF 4.0.2 will have Render Extension with Anti-Aliased fonts, which is break-through for font rendering general visual quality. To my mind, both XF 4.0.2 and KDE 2.1 should be available to Linux Mandrake 7.2 users. (I mean, it's rather difficult to upgrade to Cooker from LM 7.2; there should be binary RPMs compiled with gcc 2.95.2 and available for download; may be, we should have short beta-testing period for them as well, before putting it to public-download directory) | | -Chris -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?
7 ??? 2000 06:03, Zeljko Vukman ???: | On Thursday 07 December 2000 02:51, Steve Wray wrote: | On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote: | Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This | is a BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users | of Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake | update facility. | | You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1 | for Mandrake | 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary | incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself. | |I am not sourcecode! I am a free man! |Pity this doesn't go to alt.humor.best-of-usenet... |Sorry but I really couldn't resist that |(to tell the truth I didn't even try) | | You will compile yourself when you choose to compile Kde2.0.1. | He, he.. | Now I must be serious. Mandrake Comp. said that no final Kde-2.0.1 will | be available for users of Mandrake 7.2. | I compiled myself when I had to compile final Kde-2.0.1. It took 24 | hours. I was totally compiled after that experience. Do you have now binary RPMs (or compiled from tar.gz)? If you have binary RPMs for LM 7.2, may be, we can make them public on some ftp server? Finally, we can put them on RPMFIND.net, why not? Just mark them as "Builder: LM Fan Club; Distribution: Linux Mandrake 7.2" As I already said, it's much better to use KDE 2.1 ... when it's available, and not to use KDE 2.0.1. Unfortunately, KDE 2.1 is not in Release condition yet. P.S. I have working QT 2.2.2 binary rpms for LM 7.2, and (god!) it is i686 built. (not *default* i586) If somebody is interested - let me know. Binary has bigger size then RPMs created by Chris. /don't know why; if you know why - let me know ;-/ I can built i586 binary as well, if there is an interest. It just 35 minutes on my Pentium III box. To my mind, you should update to QT 2.2.2 even if you use KDE 2.0 Release from LM 7.2. And, QT 2.2.3 is very close... -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Server install !? Shouldn't that be somehow different?
6 ??? 2000 22:09, ?? : | On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Vadim Plessky wrote: || My personal opinion is that for servers, there needs to be an || option for "No X at all". | |Yes, I agree here. There should be an option of MINIMAL install without |X (and without TCL, TK, etc.) | | What I want is not quite minimal though. When I build a server, I want to | have the tools I choose, but without the X cruft that every install wants | to put there. I assume a "minimal install" will exclude things like | additional Perl modules, MySQL, mod-ssl, mod_php4, and many of the other | useful and server-like things I want to install. Sounds good! :-) || When I set up a server box, I do not want X. Over the years it has || been harder and harder to get an install to do that cleanly. (Other || than "rm -r /usr/X11R6".) | |I would suggest Apache-only setup option as well. You press button, and |in 2 minutes have working server (yes, it took less then 2 minutes on |my Pentium III to make Expert-Minimal install; even with Xfree |isnatlled by default) Another option: file-server only. To use that |server as File Cabinet ... :-) In this case, even Apache is not |necessary ! | | I can see a whole series of "Custom Install" options that are | pre-selected. "Firewall box", "FTP server", "Kerberos Keyserver", etc. Probably I missed it somewhere... Does "Firewall box" or "FTP server" installs X as well?!.. I will be very surprised. As far as I know, there are no "Firewall configuration" or "FTP server configuration/settings" programs, neither in GNome not KDE2. What a pity!.. If they were present, may be, I could agree on X install on server box. From other side, such tools should allow settings management from client workstation, shouldn't they? -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?
7 ??? 2000 06:46, Steve Wray ???: | I'm starting to become of the opinion that | when one is installing distributions | such as mandrake and redhat, one should pay close | attention to software that one is *particularly* keen on. you are right, indeed! | One should *not* install these through rpm | rather one should COMPILE FROM SOURCE!! | IMHO, problem is when SRPM is prepared not-correctly. The best, to my mind, is to take Source RPMs and build binaries from them. It's the easiest way, and you get "transportable" binary after all. rpm --rebuild automatically makes a lot of work for you (unpacking, ./configure, make, make install ... even cleaning disk after all; why it just doesn't make fresh orange juice [orangesaft] while compiling?.. ) | I've had no end of troubles with (various bits of) KDE2 | and its next to impossible to update *just* those bits | (eg kdemultimedia) without making a mess... | Yes, I agree with you. This is not normal - to have 10 varaiations of KDE for one OS, Linux. Problem is that many Linux distributions do not include necessary libraries, or include *buggy* ones. Libpng 1.0.8 was buggy on SuSE and not working with KDE 2. Linux Mandrake 7.2 has Libpng 1.0.8 but KDE2 is working ok. May be, it's because libpng is built into kdesupport? :-)) That's not good, to my mind. If there is a system libpng, all programs from distribution (including KDE2) should use system [shared] library. | On a redhat 7 machine I forcibly removed all the kde packages | and compiled the whole kde2 set from scratch. | | The result? BLISS! Probably you used *final* source, KDE 2.0 release. In September and beg. of October, KDE2 was not compiling for RedHat. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
