[Cooker] Package Management
I thought I'd pass along something I found in my search to keep my Cooker installation up to date. As has been discussed, MandrakeUpdate is now depreciated and has a tendency to blow up when fetching updates, and I could never get rpmdrak to fetch me just a list of the outdated packages on my system. So after poking around a little I found that linuxconf has a program that can be enabled to do that for me. (I'm not sure about the term here, but I think it's called a hook.) Once enabled, I set it to look at my local mirror of Cooker and it showed me the outdated packages on my system. I'm a little gun shy on having it actually do the upgrades, I prefer to do that myself, but it did show me what needed to be upgraded. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] devfs not working in kernel 2.4.1-16mdk
Chmouel, could this have something to do with the problem of the proc mount line in fstab not loading usbdevfs? Thanks! -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 2/19/01, 5:34:08 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: [Cooker] devfs not working in kernel 2.4.1-16mdk: > > I upgraded to kernel 2.4.1-16mdk just recently and devfs seems to be > > broken. I had to revert my fstab back to using /dev/sd[a-z][0-9] > > device entries. > you have to recompile with devfs support your kernel, i have > desactived devfs into the kernel for backward compatibility.
Re: [Cooker] Problems with MandrakeUpdate
It wants hdlist.cz in the base subdirectory. The syntax for rpmfind.net
would be:
# urpmi.addmedia
ftp:rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with
../base/hdlist.cz
Remember to state the path of base relative to RPMS. I got sidetracked
so I haven't played much with it yet.
--
Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE
Public Key: 0xDDB2572D
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 2/18/01, 3:28:42 PM, "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote regarding Re: [Cooker] Problems with MandrakeUpdate:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 08:37:31PM +, Van Holland wrote:
> > I just spent some time on this so I though I would chime in.
> Good.
> > Rpmdrake is
> > a front end to urpmi. Urpmi will look at the hdlist either locally or on
> > a mirror. Urpmi keeps it's config file in /etc/urpmi and its database in
> > /var/lib/urpmi.
> OK. So I have:
> Cooker
> ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS {
> hdlist: hdlist.Cooker.cz
> with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
> list: list.Cooker
> }
> installation ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/7.1/Mandrake/RPMS/ {
> hdlist: hdlist.installation.cz
> with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
> list: list.installation
> ignore
> }
> How do I have rpmdrake select which one to get packages from?
> b.
> Also, how does one tell rpmdrake to just update packages that are
> currently installed, like MandrakeUpdate does.
> b.
> --
> Brian J. Murrell
Re: [Cooker] Problems with MandrakeUpdate
I just spent some time on this so I though I would chime in. Rpmdrake is a front end to urpmi. Urpmi will look at the hdlist either locally or on a mirror. Urpmi keeps it's config file in /etc/urpmi and its database in /var/lib/urpmi. I already had the files created, since I did an ftp installation, but still had a problem. Rpmdrake would load, but it didn't show anything. I ended up running two scripts, urpmi.removemedia and urpmi.addmedia to redo the files. (The system has man pages on both scripts.) After doing that, rpmdrake was able to talk to the ftp mirror. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 2/18/01, 12:17:18 PM, "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: [Cooker] Problems with MandrakeUpdate: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 06:30:58PM +0100, Warly wrote: > > Derek Wildstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > it wouldn't be > And rpmdrake will be able to do "cooker" updates for those of us > testing cooker? How does one tell it where to update from then? > b. > -- > Brian J. Murrell
[Cooker] Re: USB Devices File
Someone gave me a heads up on this issue. I wouldn't have thought of this because a) modprobe will load the usb drivers, so I'd assume usbdevfs was loaded, and b) deja.com is down. ;) It looks to me like that there is a problem somewhere in the setup files in /proc that keeps this from happening. (/proc is told in fstab to load its default file systems.) I added the following to /etc/fstab as a workaround. none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs Once loaded, usbd will create the prper files in /prob/bus/usb. Below is the syntax to do it manually. > Van Holland wrote: > > > > I was wondering if you might be able to point me in the right direction > > on how to create a devices file in /proc/bus/usb if it was not created > > during installation. > mount -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb (If/when deja.com ever goes back online, I promise I will be much more intelligent) -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate quits when fetching list
I saw that earlier this week. I was mainly just wanting a list of what had changed so I could update from my own mirror. It had something to do with KDE, since it went away after the KDE update. Hope this helps! --- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christian A Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Cooker] MandrakeUpdate quits when fetching list MandrakeUpdate seems to just quit here (no output in terminal) when fetching the list over available update. Haven't run the program in at least 2-3 weeks, and I checked to see that there were no new version of it. Anybody experienced this before or know how to fix it ? -- \ Christian A Strømmen / \ Number1/NumeroUno @ Undernet - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Web: www.realityx.net - Cell: +47 911 43 948 / Live your life by your dreams, not by the limits of reality...
[Cooker] Libstdc++-glibc
Andrej and Jorge: Here's what I think is going on. I bet you are getting KDE from the Cooker. I would suggest, since your both running 7.2, that you get it from kde.org instead. The reason for this is that the latest libstdc++ (2.96) doesn't carry a symlink over from 2.95. Everything on the Cooker needed for a fresh installation looks for libstdc++libc6.2-2.so.3 instead of libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3. I could guess a symlink here, but the best idea would probably be to grab KDE off of kde.org (The version there, 20010122, looks for the earlier file, while 20010210 on the Cooker looks for the later file.) I don't think glibc makes a difference either way, and the qt2 files needed for KDE are on the site. Libqt2 2.2.4 should not be needed. Hope this helps! -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2
Support for glibc2.1 is provided by compat-glibc. I don't know for sure whether MandrakeUpdate needs it or not, but I had no problems with MandrakeUpdate when I did the glibc2.2 upgrade on 7.2. As the notes on that site say, not everything off the Cooker becomes easier with glibc2.2 installed, but things like XFree86 4.02, become MUCH easier. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, I'll give it a try at weekend. What about the second question - is it still possible to use MandrakeUpdate after switching over to glibc-2.2? TIA -andrej -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van Holland Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2 Let me recommend www.pclinuxonline.com. They have a really good instruction page on getting glibc 2.2 installed with Mandrake 7.2. Have fun! -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 2/12/01, 8:02:02 AM, Andrej Borsenkow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2: > What is the minimum list of packages to update to glibc-2.2 on Mandrake 7.2? > As related question - will I still be able to install packages off > CD/MandrakeUpdate? As I understand most of them depend on glibc-2.1 ... or it > it just libc?
Re: [Cooker] Install 02-12-2001 20:00 GMT-6
I want to call this to the attention of someone in the know. I saw this, Vincent Meyer saw this, and now Robin Cook is seeing this. I wonder what the common link is here. I did a network installation off a remote (sunsite) mirror. What is the process to create a devices file? -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 2/12/01, 10:57:08 PM, Robin Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [Cooker] Install 02-12-2001 20:00 GMT-6: > On boot up I got the following errors. > Feb 12 21:09:05 pheuri usbd: cannot open "/proc/bus/usb/devices ": No such file or directory (2) > Feb 12 21:09:05 pheuri usbd: Starting USB daemon failed
Re: [Cooker] Have you sold ping?
Verify that you have net-tools installed. I missed it somehow on the first pass of a network installation. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 2/13/01, 1:59:54 PM, guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [Cooker] Have you sold ping?: > Hi > Why no ping in cooker? > [root@localhost guran]# ping 10.0.0.1 > bash: ping: command not found > regards > guran
Re: [Cooker] Have you sold ping?
Strike my earlier message that's going through the system right now. Check for netkit-base. It has ping. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 2/13/01, 1:59:54 PM, guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [Cooker] Have you sold ping?: > Hi > Why no ping in cooker? > [root@localhost guran]# ping 10.0.0.1 > bash: ping: command not found > regards > guran
Re: [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2
There is a seperate package db1 that has that file now. It keeps it in /usr/lib. I'd check to see if you have that package installed. Also let me recommend the README in unstableMandrake directory on kde.org. It shows you the proper order on loading the KDE 2.1 packages without having to force anything. Good luck! -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 2/12/01, 7:48:36 PM, pablito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2: > I tried these instructions on 7.2. They worked. > then, I tried upgrading KDE 2.0 to 2.1 beta by using > rpm -Uhv --force --nodeps. I left out jdk-sun. The last step of that > upgrade is rpm --rebuilddb && update-menus -v && init 6. > during the upgrade, some of the packages were complaining that they couldnt > find libdb.so.2 and the last command said it couldn't find that file either, > and so didn't rebuild or update anything. > KDE booted up anyway and pretty much worked, except for kpackage and the > drak configuration utilities. They also couldn't find libdb.so.2 and didn't > work. > there must be a simple explanation. lib.so.conf points to the > i386-glibc21-linux/lib directory, and there is a libdb.so.2 file in there.
Re: [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2
Might I recommend www.pclinuxonline.com. They have an excellent instruction page on how to install glibc 2.2 on Mandrake 7.2. Hope this helps! -- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 12 February 2001 08:02 am, you wrote: > What is the minimum list of packages to update to glibc-2.2 on Mandrake > 7.2? As related question - will I still be able to install packages off > CD/MandrakeUpdate? As I understand most of them depend on glibc-2.1 ... or > it it just libc? > > I'd like to update so as to be able to just install binaries from cooker. I > found that compiling from SRPMs has the same dependency problem, so > binaries seem much more easier. Unfotunately, I cannot afford downloading > full cooker. > > TIA > > -andrej > > Have a nice DOS! > B >>
Re: [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2
Title: Re: [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2 Let me recommend www.pclinuxonline.com. They have a really good instruction page on getting glibc 2.2 installed with Mandrake 7.2. Have fun! -- Van Holland; MCSE+I; Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 2/12/01, 8:02:02 AM, Andrej Borsenkow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [Cooker] Upadating to glibc-2.2: > What is the minimum list of packages to update to glibc-2.2 on Mandrake 7.2? > As related question - will I still be able to install packages off > CD/MandrakeUpdate? As I understand most of them depend on glibc-2.1 ... or it > it just libc?
Re: [Cooker] Installation Notes
On Saturday 10 February 2001 01:34 pm, you wrote: > KDE has dome something which looks weird to me in KDM. It seems that I > only have the option to restart the X-server, not to halt or reboot. Is > this just something weird on my box, or is this for real? Strike that, KDE login manager configuration issue. Oops. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Installation Notes
I finally got the Cooker installed via FTP off of a remote mirror (sunsite.uio.no), since resynchronizing my mirror and using my other machine were both inconvenient. Thursday night actually might have been a good time to synchronize and do an HD installation or an FTP off a local machine. I would not recommend doing an installation off of a remote mirror, even at highspeeds. Problems I've found and solved with this approach were almost entirely due to missed files, some of which I knew about, some of which surprised me. I knew KDE choked and I went for a second pass, doing an upgrade to the new installation, and it left me with 15 or so files. almost all KDE, that I had to go get by hand. What sort of surprised me were some of the system packages it missed, and didn't tell me about. Telnet-server, net-tools, open (required by Aurora) were among some of the files. (None of these were in the process of being updated, so I'm without an explanation on this. Maybe I should have used a mirror located on a continent near me.) I also found a weird USB problem which I have "fixed" in a probably improper way. Usbd still won't load because /proc/bus/usb/devices doesn't exist. I poked around with modprobe and brought my mouse online, so I looked around in the rc.* files and found that the one that calls modprobe looks in /etc/modules. Not having an /etc/modules but having an /etc/modules.conf, I made a modules file and changed my startup to not load usbd automatically. That's on my ToDo list to fix properly. KDE has dome something which looks weird to me in KDM. It seems that I only have the option to restart the X-server, not to halt or reboot. Is this just something weird on my box, or is this for real? The new Aurora should not be confused as a troubleshooting tool. I would probably enable it on a production server or on an end user desktop, but I would disable the vga parameter in lilo that calls it on any box that I was testing. Then again, I didn't have Aurora enabled on 7.2 either. I'll bet Claudio is right, and that a HD installation would work about one out of every ten times. With the constant KDE and kernel revisions, I'm not surprised. I'd also bet that had a MS Windows mirror tool I was trying worked, or that I did one more reinstall of 7.2 purely to resynchronize my mirror, I would have at least gotten away with a better FTP installation from my local mirror, if not a straight HD installation. Now that I have a Linux installation back up, I'll resynchronize my mirror and do an in place upgrade to see if there's anything else I missed. I'd much rather fix a clean installation of the Cooker than try to upgrade 7.2 which was what I was going to do if I had to keep chasing down the mirror, for an installable copy. It would be nice to see a beta release, but I can also understand the backflips Mandrake would have to go through to presently find stable code. Comments welcome. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Cooker] Installation problems. Was: Cooker, Next LM Release, When?
It needs a sanity test too. That's the installation method where ldconfig is blowing up on package installation. (I think Todd Richmond and I are both seeing the same error.) --- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ron Stodden Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Cooker] Installation problems. Was: Cooker, Next LM Release, When? Todd Richmond wrote: > > There does > not seem to be any way to get any version of cooker onto a clean machine, > making it impossible for new users to test the system. Have you not heard of downloading the cooker tree to your hard disk (which you must do to make CDs anyway), and installing direct from that hard disk partition using a floppy made from /images/hd.img? This is the standard procedure and has been for years. -- Regards, Ron. [au]
RE: [Cooker] Installation problems. Was: Cooker, Next LM Release, When?
My $.02: Saying this as a bleeding edge user, and not a programmer, I don't see this product close to an ISO beta yet. I tried four different installation methods last night (ISO, FTP w/ my mirror, FTP from an official mirror, and HD). None of them worked and my mirror was synched. A large part of that, I think, was due to a kernel update, and I see another around the corner. Add to a kernel which is keeps changing rev numbers, and the installation issues, the fact that Drakconf sounds like it's in alpha testing, I don't see a code freeze happening real soon. However, having said all that, maybe installation methods should get on a to do list? I don't see it discussed very much so let me throw out what I saw last night: ISO installation is not finding hdlist1.cz in /Mandrake/base. Isn't even looking in Mandrake/base for some reason. FTP installation (both with a local mirror and an official mirror) is looking for wrong version numbers including but not limited to Kernel-2.4.1-?mdk. HD installation bombs when trying to install ldconfig. I don't code (but I do do Windows;) ) but this can't all be me. --- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Doug Roberts Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Cooker] Cooker, Next LM Release, When? I've been watching the daily message traffic for weeks now, and I'd like to express an opinion. Opinion: It's about time to freeze and make a new release. Kernel 2.4.1 is out, and KDE 2.1 is in Beta. I think it's time gear up for a release, to be timed on KDE 2.1 final. --Doug -- == Douglas Roberts, TSA-SA| Los Alamos National Laboratory | All good work is done in defiance [EMAIL PROTECTED] | of management. -- Bob Woodward (505)667-4569 | ==
[Cooker] HD Install causes ldconfig to crash
Is anyone else seeing ldconfig crash when starting the installation of a HD install? --- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0xDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Problem with install of glibc-2.2.1-4mdk.i586.rpm
Title: Re: [Cooker] Problem with install of glibc-2.2.1-4mdk.i586.rpm I'm about a half an hour away from doing a clean install of the cooker, but I am currently running glibc 2.2.1-6mdk on a Mandrake 7.2 installation with the instructions found on http://www.pclinuxonline.com, and I didn't have to force anything. (Against my pacifist nature. :) ) Hope this helps. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0XDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] What's wrong with this script?
Title: What's wrong with this script? Okay, I'm stumped, my mirror is totally up to date with the cooker on rpmfind.net. My perl version is 5.600-17mdk and my rpmtools is version 1.2.11mdk. Afterstep'and every other rpm in the RPMS directory looks okay. I'm running 7.2 with the glibc upgrade from the cooker and this is what I get when I run the perl mkcd.pl script... [root@phnx fantan]# perl mkcd.pl /build/Mandrake-devel/cooker /winme/Linux/ /build/Mandrake-devel/cooker/misc/rpm2header: error while loading shared libraries: librpmio.so.0: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory bad rpm /build/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-1.8.8-1mdk.i586.rpm Any help would be appreciated. -- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0XDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] mkcd.pl
Title: mkcd.pl After completing the mirror the perl script is giving me: pmio.so.0: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory Argh. Maybe it's just time to go to bed, which is next on my list, but the Cooker web page says or "snag the pre-made iso from the one of the mirror that contains it" Anybody know of which mirror that might be? Thanks! -- Van Holland; MCSE+I, Master CNE Public Key: 0XDDB2572D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
