Re: Upgrading kde to 2.1 in Mandrake 7.2 (was Re: [Cooker] QT, fonts, etc.)
Instead of rebooting: 1) Delete /home/yourlogin/.kde by : "rm -fr ~/.kde" (otherwise your icons will all be weird, trust me!). 2) Restart X-Window Font server by : "/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart" in the console 3) Restart X-Window by: "init 3" then "init 5" in the console Linux doesn't need any reboot except for kernel upgrade. Cheers, Prana Ron, Thanks very much for this reply! It may be a few days until I work up my nerve to try it again. When I do, I may have a few questions -- I'll be sure to let you know. Assuming it works for me, do you have any objection to me "publishing" it to my local LUG, to comp.windows.x.kde, and to a wiki that I'm working on (not up yet)? Thanks again! Randy Kramer Ron Stodden wrote: Randy Kramer wrote: I've had some troubles attempting to upgrade kde 2.0 to 2.1 in Mandrake 7.2. I would like three things: You can quite happily install KDE 2.1 with KDE running, as long as you reboot immediately it is done. Don't use any --nodeps or --force unless you know exactly what you are doing. It's not too difficult: 1. Download the unsupported/KDE2.1 directory and set to there in a terminal window. 2. rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm This will show you the difficulties. 3. Install the apmd rpm if it expected to find it. 4. Install the ppp rpm if it expected to find it. 5. If you have a libarts2 rpm installed delete it. 6. rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm again. All should be clean now. 7. If kdelibfakes.so.0 persists, do an install of libarts2 from the KDE 2.1 directory. 8. rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm All is clean? 9. Remove the libarts2 rpm 8. rpm -Uvh *.rpm If any kdelibfakes errors you MAY have to repeat with --nodeps. 10. Run rpm --rebuild 11. Run makemenu -v 12. Reboot. -- Regards, Ron. [au] -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] confused... lilo and grub
I like Lilo, why would anybody like Grub? Is there a significant advantage over it? Prana So sprach Prana am Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:57AM -0500: Why is there 2 bootloaders? Lilo and Grub? Because some people like to use lilo, as hard as this is imaginable. And the rest sticks with grub. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 6 days 0 hours 47 minutes -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] confused... lilo and grub
Hi guys, I hope you don't misunderstand, but people are getting quite confused because the packages are too bloated. I'm not complaining, this is just a compilation of suggestions. For example: there are 6 e-mail clients in 7.2: nmh, exmh, pine, mutt, balsa, etc and I personally believe that it's just too much. Then there are 3 news clients (excluding gnome kde's): tin, xrn, slrn, etc. Having 2 choices are good enough. Then there are 10 or more editors that have the same function: GXEdit, gedit, nedit, yudit, latte etc... why :-( Then there are several IDEs, but the only **usable** one, IMHO, is only XWPE - both for X-Window and console. There are packages like xmame, xmess, Basilski (those are emulators that almost only 2% of the populations that use them and the extracted RPM size is large!). Then there are 3 dhcp client : dhcp-client, dhcpxd, dhcpcd. Which one is the most usable and the one that has more features? I know Chmouel have explained that some of them don't work, so... can we choose only 1 instead? Do people really need Dosemu and XDosEmu still? I don't know... I don't think so. Then there are weird developmental languages like ghc, happy, hugs98, mercury, whatever and most programmers only use: C++/C/Objective C, Perl, LISP, Fortran (for compatibility with old unix apps) and some in Pascal. That's the large percentage of language used, but stuff like ruby and whatsoever :=( Then the quality of packages like /usr/X11R6/bin/ico - what kind of a joke program is it? I know they're from X11R6-contrib... but still it's really useless.. I'll send a diff to Pixel for rpmrate tonight.. there are some missing stuff (not rated) there too.. The more RPM packages that we have, the more: 1) User will think that Mandrake is bloated, just like this guy said here: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-09-016-04-SC-MD- 2) The more security vulnerability. This will damage our reputation. Just eliminate Zope ( 5 security vulnerability in the last 3 months!) , throw it away. We really don't need a very low performance Zope. Zope is very slow compared to PHP, and it's quite resource hog. 3) The less the packages the better we can concentrate focus on optimizations, speed, and security. Trim down stuff that are not going to be used by people, such as xrn, slrn, etc. Or :-( I don't know, this problem is just getting to complex and it seems it can't be denied that unless developers decide to really trim it down, it's gonna be a super bloatware. Am I making sense here? Prana On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach Prana am Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:57AM -0500: Why is there 2 bootloaders? Lilo and Grub? Because some people like to use lilo, as hard as this is imaginable. And the rest sticks with grub. Why is it hard to imagine? After searching for half an hour and having found NO usable grub documentation, I decided I can just as well forget it. -andrej -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
[Cooker] Fwd: MandrakeUpdateRobot 0.8-4mdk
--- Weitergeleitete Nachricht / Forwarded Message --- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:15:11 +0100 From: Charles Nepote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MandrakeUpdateRobot 0.8-4mdk Hi Prana, MandrakeUpdateRobot now works very fine behind our corporate proxy/firewall (Squid). Thank you for your work ! Three small remarks : -- when I launched drakeupdatesetup by error from DrakConf (or from command line) if I answer "no" to this question : "Now, are you ready to continue the setup wizard? [Y/N] Your answer:n" it writes a blank /etc/drakeupdatetxt.conf so it losts the last configuration... and then mandrakeupdaterobot segfault because it have an empty configuration file. (Is my explanation clear enought ?). -- it should be good to have the choice of upgrading only "security updates" ; maybe it's a lot of work I think it would be a good option for administrators who just want security upgrades ; -- there is an error in your message : "If you want to run this program as a daemon, copy the file /etc/urpmi/drakupdaterobot.cron to /etc/cron.daily. If you don't know how to copy it, just type: "cp /etc/urpmi/drakupdaterobot.cron /etc/cron.weekly" ; drakeupdaterobot.cron is located in /etc on my system. Thanks again for your very good work ! Charles Npote. -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] BSD Kernel + Mandrake
Should be this one - read http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=98347493206995w=2 Shannon Matteson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joshman, I heartily agree that the BSD is currently more scalable, but the point of (or one of the points of) Linux Mandrake is ease of use, and to switch kernels would be so huge a setback for the distro that you might as well start at 1.0. It would indeed be a step backwards, not only for the developers of LM, but for consistency and probably ease of use, as well. Of course, I am far from an expert, so I am quite possibly wrong. Sure, *BSD is more stable. But Linux and *BSD are separate for a reason, methinks. If you like *BSD, then use *BSD! If you wanna use both, use VMWare! for all of you who doubt if BSD is better that linux you may have to checkout the (recent) thread on the lkml about that : http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=98341027108236w=2 -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
WORKS! Re: [Cooker] PCI modem 3CP2977 claimed to be Winmodem 5610
Hiya, I have 3COM PCI modem at home, works under 7.2 without additional hardware Read http://www.cyest.org/tutorials/3compcimodem/ Prana If beta freeze is not a joke - what about this problem (several bug reports from several people?) Hardrake claims my modem is Winmodem 3COM 5610. I have no idea if 5610 is winmodem or not - but mine is 3CP2977, PCI hardware modem that has been on duty for several months. lspci -n: 02:0d.0 Class 0700: 12b9:1008 (rev 01) lspci -vv: 02:0d.0 Serial controller: US Robotics/3Com 56K FaxModem Model 5610 (rev 01) (prog-if 02 [16550]) Subsystem: US Robotics/3Com USR 56k Internal FAX Modem (Model 2977) Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9 Region 0: I/O ports at d000 [size=8] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME- lspcidrake: unknown : US Robotics/3Com|56K FaxModem Model 5610 [COMMUNICATION_SERIAL] dmesg: Serial driver version 5.02 (2000-08-09) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 02:0d.0 ttyS02 at port 0xd000 (irq = 9) is a 16550A Note, that it is kernel 2.4.2-3mdk; stock 7.2 came with old serial module that did not support PCI modems and when I compiled serial-5.05 it assigned ttyS4 and not ttyS2 (as was in readme, first 4 ports are reserved for legacy devices). -andrej -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
[Cooker] Mandrake Update Robot into 8.0 ?
Just wondering, is MUR going into 8.0? -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] BIND 8.2.2p7 Problems
Update your Bind to 8.2.3. Prana -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] Has anyone got a good rsync script for cooker?
You can also try Mandrake Update Robot (drakupdaterobot) with this to download only the RPM ... note that it's still BETA though :) I've tried updating my 7.2 yesterday... boy updating 149 RPM packages! Can you imagine? :-) On 2001.02.06 23:35:07 +0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using one that I got awhile back, but it has some problems. Mine is not a 'good' script, but gives me full satisfaction: #!/bin/sh # Synchronise le miroir local de cooker # definition de variables OPT="-av --delete" SERVER="sunsite.uio.no" DIR="/var/ftp/pub/distributions" # cooker echo echo "mirroring cooker" echo "" rsync $OPT \ $SERVER::Mandrake-devel/ \ $DIR/mandrake-devel # updates echo echo "mirroring mandrake" echo "--" rsync $OPT \ $SERVER::Mandrake/ \ $DIR/mandrake If you're looking after something more complete, you should have a look at Ron Stodden's one (search in mailing lsit archives for exact URL, or just wait for Ron to recall it there). Guillaume -- If mathematically you end up with the incorrect answer, try multiplying by the page number -- Murphy's Laws on Technology n35 -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] Ramen babies and automated updates.
I'm making one, still discussing it here. Read the details in my earlier post. Don't worry. Hi According to this article on the Ramen worm: http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jan2001/nf20010123_284.htm an automated non gui update, could kill further attacks on Linux along their lines. Has anyone tried apt, from cooker contribs, on a cooker. Would love to hear about your experiences. regards guran -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
