Re: [Cooker] Bugs in 7.1 and some suggestions
Ya gotta love it! What other venue can a high school student have such a big effect on a project? Go to it, Chun! --- On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Thanks for the advice but I am still a high school student.. I have a so > called opimistic future...I am new to linux, I want to improve the hardware > compability list of linux -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] Blank gdm
Go into KDE Control Center-->Applications-->Login Manager-->User Setup. One of the radio buttons controls this function. You can also change who gets what image. --- On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > Hi, > I am facing a weird problem, when I start gdm, there aren't any user face > displayed. > Users can still log in typing there name and password, but it's not as nice. > Thanks, > =-= > kk1 > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: ---- -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
RE: [Cooker] Where is...?
I see, so they aren't on either of the ISO images? (BTW, it looks like the ISO
images on sunet keep changing? Am I crazy? [Don't answer that. I don't want to
know. {And neither do I!}])
---
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > XFree86-4.0 and Mozilla? I downloaded the ISO's yesterday and
> > burned them but I
> > can't seem to find either of these packages.
>
>
> check in contribs. the mozilla in contribs is old, currently working on a
> new spec :)
>
>
>
> > --
> > Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794)
> > Brigham and Women's Hospital
> > 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East
> > Boston, MA 02215-1213
> >
--
Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794)
Brigham and Women's Hospital
900 Commonwealth Avenue, East
Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] Where is...?
Ah, so many packages, such limited eyes and brain. Thanks. --- On Fri, 09 Jun 2000, you wrote: > "Jonathan Prigot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > XFree86-4.0 and Mozilla? I downloaded the ISO's yesterday and burned them but I > > can't seem to find either of these packages. > > XF4's package is named "XFree86-server-4.0" > > -- > Guillaume Cottenceau -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
[Cooker] Where is...?
XFree86-4.0 and Mozilla? I downloaded the ISO's yesterday and burned them but I can't seem to find either of these packages. -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: Re: [Cooker] Worth Downloading Final Version?
RedHat just posted a notice about the "plugger" plugins program causing bus errors. --- On Thu, 08 Jun 2000, you wrote: > I cant get netscape to work! in final version! > > ERROR: /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libradnet.so: undefined symbol: __9DLLAccess > Cant load plugin /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libradnet.so. Ignored. > ERROR: /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/librarv10.so: undefined symbol: FreeLibrary__FUl > Cant load plugin /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/librarv10.so. Ignored. > ERROR: libm.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > Cant load plugin /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/librvcore.so. Ignored. > Bus error > > > On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > > ... Aargh no... The beta 3 is obvoiusly not ready for > > > release... On my laptop the beta3 kernel won't even > > > boot (oops on startup). Booting from an earlier kernel > > > it's obvious that half the packages don't work. > > > ... > > > > I would argue the point about half the packages not > > working, but I also have a problem with laptop > > installation. Using the pcmcia.img boot disk worked as > > desired, allowing installation of Mandrake, but I can't > > access the network on reboot. Also, XFree86 configuration > > does not work with the 800x600 (nor 1024x768 set at a > > resolution of 800x600) flat panel display settings, though > > I can get the 800x600 setting to work using the interlaced > > 1024x768@87 monitor setting. > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > LINUX - Why? > Cause I dont do windows > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
Just do an "hdparm /dev/hdX" and it will show you your settings. --- On Tue, 06 Jun 2000, you wrote: > How can I know if DMA is turned on or off? When I bot up it looks to say > that DMA is being used ...around where it says that I am using ata/66. > -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] DISCUSSION Upgrade (fwd)
How about a "this is what I propose to do" step with the possibility of
overriding the proposal? ("Don't replace my custom kernel, but it's OK to
upgrade cdrecord and downgrade xmms") (For real fun, make the buttons say [YES]
and [OK] ;-} )
--
Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794)
Brigham and Women's Hospital
900 Commonwealth Avenue, East
Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
Oops, sorry, that should be -A1. (But a peek at the man page would have told you that I goofed, and how.) --- On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: > What does -a 1 option do? > > > >From: "Jonathan M. Prigot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive > >Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:14:20 -0400 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from [216.71.84.35] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBB059D5E004FD82197AAD8475423405E0; Mon Jun 05 18:22:39 2000 > >Received: (from sympa@localhost)by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com > >(8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09570for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 > >15:22:06 -0500 > >Received: from prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [32.97.166.34]) by > >mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06407 for > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:13:41 -0500 > >Received: from attglobal.net ([32.100.243.4]) by prserv.net (out4) with > >SMTP id <2606011412239032l86oe>; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 01:14:13 + > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 05 18:23:55 2000 > >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15-4mdk i686) > >X-Accept-Language: en > >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-Sequence: 372 > >Precedence: list > > > >David Walluck wrote: > >AFAIK, you are asked at install time whether you want to enable hard > >drive optimizations, and warned that it can do some nasty things. The > >default answer is "No". If you answer "Yes" it puts a line in > >/etc/sysconfig/system that enables hdparm -a1 -c1 -d1. According to > >messages here, -d1 may cause system lockups. > >--- > > > > > > Brian Fleischman wrote: > > > > > > > > I do can do a -c1 just fine also. If I do a -d1 (dma)...locks > > > up...harddrive > > > > light on constantly, even with the -X66 or -X68. I have a WD 20.5 > > > ata/66 7200 rpm > > > > drive. I wonder what's up with the dma stuff. > > > > > > > > -Brian > > > > > > Hi. Why are hard drive optimizations on per default??? I have to add > > > "nohdparm" to the command-line. On my WDC 18G drive, it hangs. I'm > > > having serious problems with DMA enabled on this drive anyway (VP3 > > > chipset). So I turned off "Use DMA by default" in the kernel. Still, > > > hard drive optimizations apparently can't be enabled on WDC dricves. > > > I've seen this problem reported many times and I'm experiencing serious > > > problems myself. > > > > > > -- > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > David Walluck > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >-- > >Jonathan M. Prigot > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
David Walluck wrote: AFAIK, you are asked at install time whether you want to enable hard drive optimizations, and warned that it can do some nasty things. The default answer is "No". If you answer "Yes" it puts a line in /etc/sysconfig/system that enables hdparm -a1 -c1 -d1. According to messages here, -d1 may cause system lockups. --- > > Brian Fleischman wrote: > > > > I do can do a -c1 just fine also. If I do a -d1 (dma)...locks > up...harddrive > > light on constantly, even with the -X66 or -X68. I have a WD 20.5 > ata/66 7200 rpm > > drive. I wonder what's up with the dma stuff. > > > > -Brian > > Hi. Why are hard drive optimizations on per default??? I have to add > "nohdparm" to the command-line. On my WDC 18G drive, it hangs. I'm > having serious problems with DMA enabled on this drive anyway (VP3 > chipset). So I turned off "Use DMA by default" in the kernel. Still, > hard drive optimizations apparently can't be enabled on WDC dricves. > I've seen this problem reported many times and I'm experiencing serious > problems myself. > > -- > Sincerely, > > David Walluck > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Jonathan M. Prigot
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
Nothing in particular. Just look at the manpage for hdparm and try things. You have nothing to lose but your data ;-> You should also look at the settings in /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime for some ideas. Try things manually at first, test with hdparm -tT, and when you have your ideal settings, put them into mandrake_everytime and edit /etc/sysconfig/system with HDPARM=yes to load your settings at system startup. --- bobby dowling wrote: > > Jon ...know of any other tweaks like that? > > >What happens if you don't do the -d1? I can do -c1 just fine (and it speeds > >things up 50%), but if I do -d1 my system locks solid. > >--- > >On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > > I am trying to change the 16 bit i/o seetings for my hard drive to 32 > >bit to > > > drive to speed up access with the following command: > > > > > > hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/hde (I have ata/66 drives working on hde/hdg) > > > > > > I wait a good 5 minutes and nothing ...just hangs, but I can close the > > > x-terminal. > > > > > > Any ideas here/ > > > > > > BTW, I got this tweak tip from: > > > > > > http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/hdtweak.html > > > ____ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- > >Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) > >Brigham and Women's Hospital > >900 Commonwealth Avenue, East > >Boston, MA 02215-1213 > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --- Jonathan M. Prigot (What's a nice guy like you doing with the likes of Hotmail?)
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
I'm not sure whether it is a problem for all or just some chipsets (mine's an HPT366 on a Soyo 6BA+ IV mobo, BTW.) I always assumed the latter and shrugged my shoulders. --- Brian Fleischman wrote: > > I do can do a -c1 just fine also. If I do a -d1 (dma)...locks up...harddrive > light on constantly, even with the -X66 or -X68. I have a WD 20.5 ata/66 7200 rpm > drive. I wonder what's up with the dma stuff. > > -Brian > > Jonathan Prigot wrote: > > > What happens if you don't do the -d1? I can do -c1 just fine (and it speeds > > things up 50%), but if I do -d1 my system locks solid. > > --- > > On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > > I am trying to change the 16 bit i/o seetings for my hard drive to 32 bit to > > > drive to speed up access with the following command: > > > > > > hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/hde (I have ata/66 drives working on hde/hdg) > > > > > > I wait a good 5 minutes and nothing ...just hangs, but I can close the > > > x-terminal. > > > > > > Any ideas here/ > > > > > > BTW, I got this tweak tip from: > > > > > > http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/hdtweak.html > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > > Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) > > Brigham and Women's Hospital > > 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East > > Boston, MA 02215-1213 > > -- > Brian Fleischman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Jonathan M. Prigot
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
What happens if you don't do the -d1? I can do -c1 just fine (and it speeds things up 50%), but if I do -d1 my system locks solid. --- On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: > I am trying to change the 16 bit i/o seetings for my hard drive to 32 bit to > drive to speed up access with the following command: > > hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/hde (I have ata/66 drives working on hde/hdg) > > I wait a good 5 minutes and nothing ...just hangs, but I can close the > x-terminal. > > Any ideas here/ > > BTW, I got this tweak tip from: > > http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/hdtweak.html > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] So, if 7.1 is now final...
That's the way that RedHat works, too. If I remember the RH doc set, every user is their own group, but can also be member of various "project" groups. - Original Message - From: "John Cavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] So, if 7.1 is now final... > Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > > > John Cavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > 2. When you create a normal user at install time it also creates a group > > > that matches the user. That means I get john:john instead of john:users > > > > this is the standard way on our distribution, a user has a group and > > after the administrator manage to set him on a different group. > > It may be the standard way on Mandrake, but it's not a standard way for > Unix... it is unexpected behaviour and you do have a group labled > "users" which I assume is for this purpose. It's not a big problem or > anything, I just can't see the reason for doing it that way. The last > thing any of us would want is a hundred different groups with the exact > same name as the user IDs in the system. > > John > > --- Jonathan M. Prigot
Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation
HP JetDirect cards have three preconfigured queues: postscript, ascii, and raw. You can also use a telnet stream at port 9100. - Original Message - From: "Danny W. Burdick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation > diablero wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:17:22AM -0700, Alexander V. Voinov wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Yesterday I again tried the latest beta, and was again surprised with > > > the printer config menu: "Text printer| HP DJ | Postscript". It would > > > frustrate even an experienced user. What if I have an HP LJ?! > > > > The new system is not user friendly, you need to open three different > > windows to configure a new lp. The older printtool was far easy to use. > > > > > Alexander > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Poindessous > > EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.epita.fr/~epx > > > Can someone tell me why I can't print to my network printer. > I have an HP DirectJet connected to an el cheapo epson 400 and set it up > as a remote printer named epson > with it's ip 192.168.1.150 for it's hostname > and I have no idea what to put for a queue name it has no named server > it's hooked to a printer driver devicehehe > > It doesn't work from my Linuxbut does in W98...not > acceptable...agent mulder..hehe > > Danny > > --- Jonathan M. Prigot
Re: [Cooker] lilo problems
I use a Soyo mobo with an HPT366 chip. If I use -d1 with or without an -X
option, the system locks up. I figured that that's just the way it's going
to be, so I took out the -d1 switch from mandrake_everytime and I've had no
problems.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Fleischman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] lilo problems
> Question, probably not related. I have tried doing hdparm with a couple
> different -X values (66/68) with the -d 1 (dma) and it has locked up my
system
> each time when I try the test (-t) on /dev/hde. The only value I can set
and
> test successfully is -c for 32-bit I/O. Any thoughts or others have
similar
> problems? Thanks very much for looking at this. I really need that lilo
to
> work so I can upgrade the kernels.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
>
> Pixel wrote:
>
> > Brian Fleischman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > open("/dev/hda", O_RDWR)= -1 EROFS (Read-only file
system)
> >
> > this is strange, what partitions do you have?
>
> --
> Brian Fleischman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
---
Jonathan M. Prigot
RE: [Cooker] Mandrake's Stability
That's similar to the way that AutoRPM (www.kaybee.org) works. Each night, he round robin's the sites to compare RPM's there vs. the versions on your machine. It also maintains a "reachability index" such that sites that are more reachable will be queried before the doggier sites. --- On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Oh god that would be a nice... little ping utility built into Mandrake > Updater that pings the sites... They could > name it MandrakeSpy :) > > Riyad Kalla > Java Programmer > Game Enthusiast > > -Original Message- > From: David Talbot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Cooker] Mandrake's Stability > > > I haven't looked at the source, but if running mandrake update hits a > mandrake server to get the list of mirrors you could give a rating to the > ones that are indeed up to date. Mandrake could automate this process via a > simple utility could be written that checks your mirrors to insure they've > got the latest stuff. (And maybe even toss in a speed rating) > > -David Talbot > > At 03:08 PM 6/2/00 -0400, you wrote: > >I believe that you are right, that "not all mirrors are created equal". > >However, it should not be the user's problem. By "advertising" these sites > in > >MandrakeUpdate, Mandrake should share responsibility of making sure that > the > >sites maintain a "minimum standard of updatedness" since it reflects on > >Mandrake. This could be enforced by periodically updating the offered > mirror > >sites or, doing as RedHat does, by having the updater go to one site that > farms > >out the request to a server. > >--- > > > >On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote: > >> I did notice that with the update util, but that can be accredited to the > >> fact that Redhat uses a centralized controlled repository for their > updates > >> ( updates.redhat.com ) while mandrake utilizes the > Mandrake/updates/ >> release number> directory on any of their FULL mirrors. So if the mirror > >> hasn't been updated ( by the mirror admin, or his mirroring software ) > then > >> it won't show up yet. And someitmes you might even find updates on one > >> mirror, but not another for that reason. > >> > >> ( I think the following is correct as far as how its done, but please > >> correct me if I'm wrong ) > >> > >> Riyad Kalla > >> Java Programmer > >> Game Enthusiast > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Jonathan Prigot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 11:06 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake's Stability > >> > >> > >> I used to use RedHat. Since I bought a boxed set, I could use their > Update > >> program (it's been a while, so I forget the exact name). It seemed like > >> every > >> time they released a patch/update, it would show up in their utility. > With > >> MandrakeUpdate, the announced security related fixes don't always show > up. I > >> like Mandrake a lot (even though it was the only distro to completely > wipe > >> out > >> a user's hard drive due to defective hdparm settings [6.0?, 6.1?]), but I > >> don't > >> have quite the warm fuzzy feeling I had with RedHat. > >> --- > >> On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote: > >> > Even with RedHat's more conservative approach, they've always had to > >> > release updates as they went along to fix bugs in the released product. > >> > So, to my mind, I can't quite see the point of slowing down. I say > full > >> > speed ahead. There will be bugs, but that's what MandrakeUpdate is > for, > >> > right? > >> > > >> > I'm with this ship as long as its the fastest ship on the sea. I know > >> > bugs are inevitable no matter how slow we go, so I'm happy to tolerate > a > >> > few, perhaps even a few more than other distributions, as long as this > >> > remains the fastest ship on the sea. Don't slow down, because if I see > >> > a faster ship out there, and it doesn't appear to be sinking, I'll be > >> > happy to jump off this ship. I've done it before, and I'll do it again > >> > if Mandrake doesn't stay out front. > >> > > >> > I don't see that as happening anytime soon though. Keep up the good > >> > work, guys. Full speed ahead... > >> -- > >> Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) > >> Brigham and Women's Hospital > >> 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East > >> Boston, MA 02215-1213 > >-- > >Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) > >Brigham and Women's Hospital > >900 Commonwealth Avenue, East > >Boston, MA 02215-1213 -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
RE: [Cooker] Mandrake's Stability
I believe that you are right, that "not all mirrors are created equal". However, it should not be the user's problem. By "advertising" these sites in MandrakeUpdate, Mandrake should share responsibility of making sure that the sites maintain a "minimum standard of updatedness" since it reflects on Mandrake. This could be enforced by periodically updating the offered mirror sites or, doing as RedHat does, by having the updater go to one site that farms out the request to a server. --- On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote: > I did notice that with the update util, but that can be accredited to the > fact that Redhat uses a centralized controlled repository for their updates > ( updates.redhat.com ) while mandrake utilizes the Mandrake/updates/ release number> directory on any of their FULL mirrors. So if the mirror > hasn't been updated ( by the mirror admin, or his mirroring software ) then > it won't show up yet. And someitmes you might even find updates on one > mirror, but not another for that reason. > > ( I think the following is correct as far as how its done, but please > correct me if I'm wrong ) > > Riyad Kalla > Java Programmer > Game Enthusiast > > -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Prigot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 11:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake's Stability > > > I used to use RedHat. Since I bought a boxed set, I could use their Update > program (it's been a while, so I forget the exact name). It seemed like > every > time they released a patch/update, it would show up in their utility. With > MandrakeUpdate, the announced security related fixes don't always show up. I > like Mandrake a lot (even though it was the only distro to completely wipe > out > a user's hard drive due to defective hdparm settings [6.0?, 6.1?]), but I > don't > have quite the warm fuzzy feeling I had with RedHat. > --- > On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > Even with RedHat's more conservative approach, they've always had to > > release updates as they went along to fix bugs in the released product. > > So, to my mind, I can't quite see the point of slowing down. I say full > > speed ahead. There will be bugs, but that's what MandrakeUpdate is for, > > right? > > > > I'm with this ship as long as its the fastest ship on the sea. I know > > bugs are inevitable no matter how slow we go, so I'm happy to tolerate a > > few, perhaps even a few more than other distributions, as long as this > > remains the fastest ship on the sea. Don't slow down, because if I see > > a faster ship out there, and it doesn't appear to be sinking, I'll be > > happy to jump off this ship. I've done it before, and I'll do it again > > if Mandrake doesn't stay out front. > > > > I don't see that as happening anytime soon though. Keep up the good > > work, guys. Full speed ahead... > -- > Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) > Brigham and Women's Hospital > 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East > Boston, MA 02215-1213 -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
RE: [Cooker] Graphical installer
Add my vote to keep a text-based installer around. While most of the machines that I've used could handle a graphical install, a fair number did not. If I couldn't use a text-based installer, I'd be up the creek. --- On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote: > text style??? > > > > > > keeping 2 different installs is hard. > > > > > > > > > I assume that the inference is that, at some point, a text install will no > > longer be available. > > > > > > i know that keeping 2 different kinds of installs is hard. however: i would > like to stress on the importance of a text-based installer. personally, it > means less bloat and now that a i486 distro is available it means i can > still install it without the bloat of X. even on a i686 i will choose > text-mode. anyways, chances are that if you are using a text-based install > (i will definitely choose this one) you're experienced, so if there's a bug, > you know how to fix, it can be "less maintained" than the GUI install (yuck) > > > > > > Hoyt > > -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake's Stability
I used to use RedHat. Since I bought a boxed set, I could use their Update program (it's been a while, so I forget the exact name). It seemed like every time they released a patch/update, it would show up in their utility. With MandrakeUpdate, the announced security related fixes don't always show up. I like Mandrake a lot (even though it was the only distro to completely wipe out a user's hard drive due to defective hdparm settings [6.0?, 6.1?]), but I don't have quite the warm fuzzy feeling I had with RedHat. --- On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Even with RedHat's more conservative approach, they've always had to > release updates as they went along to fix bugs in the released product. > So, to my mind, I can't quite see the point of slowing down. I say full > speed ahead. There will be bugs, but that's what MandrakeUpdate is for, > right? > > I'm with this ship as long as its the fastest ship on the sea. I know > bugs are inevitable no matter how slow we go, so I'm happy to tolerate a > few, perhaps even a few more than other distributions, as long as this > remains the fastest ship on the sea. Don't slow down, because if I see > a faster ship out there, and it doesn't appear to be sinking, I'll be > happy to jump off this ship. I've done it before, and I'll do it again > if Mandrake doesn't stay out front. > > I don't see that as happening anytime soon though. Keep up the good > work, guys. Full speed ahead... -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] 7.1 final, when?
I'd settle for a fixed Beta 3 Extras ISO. --- On Wed, 31 May 2000, you wrote: > So how does the 7.1 release look? Will there be a Beta4? > > best wishes, > > -Riyad -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - Dependencies
Even so. Could there not be a utility that recursively looks at the dependencies the of RPM that you requested, and resolves each in turn? Come to think of it, RedHat does that very thing with their graphical patching tool (whose name I forget.) The only danger is that while the package you asked for is listed at, for example, 5MB, it ends up growing to 50MB after all dependencies are resolved. --- On Fri, 26 May 2000, you wrote: > > The ports system does this, since you don't stand much chance of > successfully compiling something without the dependencies. For > binary packages, pkg_add is not that smart and only warns you about > dependencies. > > > > -- > > > Stuart Krivis[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Fourth law of programming: >Anything that can go wrong wi > sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] [discuss] Add a quick-expert install mode
How would this differ from the current autoinstall/kickstart scheme of setting up a template machine and using the created auto_inst.pl file to set up other machines? --- On Fri, 26 May 2000, you wrote: > > [Dream] > With the "quick-expert mode" it should be possible to select manually in a > single screen, without automatic detections, *all* the options at the very > beginning of install (language, hardware, networks options, and so on). Then > the rest of the install would be without human intervention until the end. > (May be there will have problems with hard drive partition... we must think > carefully about it). > > Charles Népote. > (Thanks for listening users !) > Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: ---- -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - Dependencies
One thing that I have always admired in FreeBSD is the way that dependencies are automatically handled. If one package is needed by another, then it is automatically installed and the installation moves on. Similarly, I wish that program "bundles" could be installed after the initial install/upgrade (e.g. being able to go to a selection screen and choose "Office Applications" and have that program bundle installed.) --- On Thu, 25 May 2000, you wrote: > - NOW is a time to ask us whatever you want: tell us what you like, tell > us what you hate, tell us what you dream of! > - NOW is a time for you to influence the future company decisions - start > thinking, and if you come up with a briliant idea, post it here. -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] Watching another tty
Given the security advisory on Xemacs, just have him use the unpatched version :-} (Oops, time to take my medication.) --- On Wed, 24 May 2000, you wrote: > > Does anyone know how to (don't get paranoid) spy on another tty > session? I'm trying to show a colleague how to do certain sysadmin > things by example and thought it might nice to have him watch as I type. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > David Christensen > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="davidc.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for David Christensen ---- -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] Watching another tty
If you want to do the typing and have your colleague see what you are doing, you can do a "tee" to their tty. (At least it worked on the HP-UX system that I once administered.) --- On Wed, 24 May 2000, you wrote: > > Does anyone know how to (don't get paranoid) spy on another tty > session? I'm trying to show a colleague how to do certain sysadmin > things by example and thought it might nice to have him watch as I type. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > David Christensen > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="davidc.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for David Christensen ---- -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] Corel WordPerfect 2000 with Cooker ..
I seem to remember that Nick Petreley at LinuxWorld ran into this problem. I think it turned out that FontTastic listens on a different port. You may want to go to http://www.linuxworld.com and check out back issues within the last two months. --- On Sun, 14 May 2000, you wrote: > On Sun, 14 May 2000, Stephen Hassard wrote: > > > > Use both XFS and FontTastic. They can both run simultaneously. X needs > > > XFS, whereas FontTastic is for WP only. > > > > I figured that out. The reason I disabled XFS was that WP2000 never did > > start when both were enabled. I tried playing with the FontTastic font > > installer, but it kept mentioning that it could not initialize itself > > because it was not installed as the font handler, even though it was > > installed and running fine .. > > I had a similar problem on a machine I installed for a client that wasn't > going to be networked, so I disabled networking completely (which of > course broke fonttastic). Do you have the loopback interface enabled > (ie. lo)? If not, enable it (ie. do a /etc/rc.d/init.d/network > start). I'd imagine that this is not your problem, however. That was the > only time fonttastic wouldn't work for me. One I fixed that, it and XFS > ran together just fine and so did WP2000. > > > > I'm using it on 7.0 with XF86 3.3.6 and it works. I imagine you just need > > > to start XFS and have both running and you should be fine. > > > > maybe it's a problem with XF86 4? I wouldn't imagine why tho .. > > I don't know. I've only ever tried it with 7.0. I haven't tried > installing WP2000 with 7.1. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net > Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 > Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] ATA 66
I'm in a similar situation. I was informed that ATA/66 support is still broken in the 2 outstanding betas, but will be fixed in the next. --- On Thu, 11 May 2000, you wrote: > I just installed the beta on a box with two HD, and UDMA 66 and an ATA 66. > I was expecting this new version to recognize the ATA as stated in the > changelog for 7.1 But it doesn't show up. Can anyone give me directions for > ATA support? Links, howtos etc.? > > thanks > > TTimo -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] ata66 on a-bit be6 still not working
With either a CDROM boot or a floppy built by dd'ing cdrom.img. Should I try something else? -- On Thu, 11 May 2000, you wrote: > "Jonathan M. Prigot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't know how yours is failing, but on my Soyo 6BA-IV+, it recognizes the > > HPT366 chip on the IDE2 and IDE3 interfaces, but it cannot find /dev/hde which > > is where my system disk is. Mandrake 7.0-0 (using the "new" boot floppy) didn't > > have this problem. > > with latest cooker ? -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
Re: [Cooker] ata66 on a-bit be6 still not working
I don't know how yours is failing, but on my Soyo 6BA-IV+, it recognizes the HPT366 chip on the IDE2 and IDE3 interfaces, but it cannot find /dev/hde which is where my system disk is. Mandrake 7.0-0 (using the "new" boot floppy) didn't have this problem. --- > >On Wed, 10 May 2000, B. K. Barley wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Just downloaded the iso of 7.1 beta b. And setup still fails to recognize > >> an ata66 drive on the a-bit motherboard. I tried passing the io address to > >> the install kernel and it still will not work. I need to install linux on > >> this partition. Thought it was fixed in beta b. > >> > >> B. K. Barley > >> > >> -- Jonathan M. Prigot (781-828-6606) 44 High Street Canton, MA 02021-3609
