Re: [Cooker] no DMA in linux-2.6.0-0.test9.5mdk

[Scott Chevalley]

Quoting Olivier Blin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:56:51 -0500
> Scott Chevalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > Yes, I need please the output of lscpi and lspcidrake (to give me
> > > the exact name of your IDE chipset).
> > 
> > > Thanks.
> > 
> > here ya go. 
> 
> Ok, you're using a VIA82CXXX IDE chipset.
> I've set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=m in test9.5mdk, but, as Andrey
> pointed out, ide chipsets won't even load in current 2.6 state.
> I'll built-in ide chipsets back in next release.
> 
> BTW, I'd like to know if the ide module is correctly detected by
> mkinitrd.
> Can you please try the following (as root) so I can check which modules
> are detected and added in the /lib of initrd ?
> 
> cp /boot/initrd-2.6.0-0.test9.5mdk.img initrd-2.6-test9.5mdk.img.gz
> gunzip initrd-2.6-test9.5mdk.img.gz
> mkdir initrd-2.6-test9.5mdk
> mount initrd-2.6-test9.5mdk.img initrd-2.6-test9.5mdk -o loop
> ls initrd-2.6-test9.5mdk/lib
> umount initrd-2.6-test9.5mdk
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -- 
> Olivier Blin
> 
> 

it only shows reiserfs.ko in there.

...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scott]# ls initrd-2.6.0-0.test9.5mdk/l
lib  linuxrc  loopfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scott]# ls initrd-2.6.0-0.test9.5mdk/lib
reiserfs.ko

Re: [Cooker] no DMA in linux-2.6.0-0.test9.5mdk

[Scott Chevalley]

On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 22:34, Olivier Blin wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:27:47 -0500
> Scott Chevalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I just tried the test9.5 kernel and during the fsck stage it keeps
> > saying that DMA is turned off on the hard drive.  I checked with
> > hdparm and it is off and it gives a SIOC error when I try to enable
> > it. 
> > 
> > I tried ide0=dma on the kernel command line, but it didn't change
> > anything.  I noticed some messages during boot about reiserfs being in
> > slow mode.  
> > 
> > I've enclosed an example boot from my warnings log file to help.  If
> > there is other info I can give, just ask.
> 
> Yes, I need please the output of lscpi and lspcidrake (to give me the
> exact name of your IDE chipset).

> Thanks.

here ya go. 


unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8367 [KT266] [BRIDGE_HOST]
unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8367 [KT266 AGP] [BRIDGE_PCI]
tulip   : Lite-On|LNE100TX [NETWORK_ETHERNET]
snd-ens1370 : Ensoniq|ES1370 [AudioPCI] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge [BRIDGE_ISA]
unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] [STORAGE_IDE]
usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB [SERIAL_USB]
usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB [SERIAL_USB]
usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB [SERIAL_USB]
Card:Voodoo3 (generic): 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.|Voodoo 3 [DISPLAY_VGA]
unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub]
unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub]
unknown : Eastman Kodak Company|KODAK DX3700 Digital Camera [Imaging|Still 
Image Capture|Picture Transfer Protocol (PIMA 15470)]
unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub]
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333]
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20)
00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI]
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b)
00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b)
00:11.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)

[Cooker] no DMA in linux-2.6.0-0.test9.5mdk

[Scott Chevalley]

I just tried the test9.5 kernel and during the fsck stage it keeps
saying that DMA is turned off on the hard drive.  I checked with hdparm
and it is off and it gives a SIOC error when I try to enable it. 

I tried ide0=dma on the kernel command line, but it didn't change
anything.  I noticed some messages during boot about reiserfs being in
slow mode.  

I've enclosed an example boot from my warnings log file to help.  If
there is other info I can give, just ask.

Thanks.



Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Linux version 2.6.0-0.test9.5mdk
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2
3.3.1-4mdk)) #2 Mon Nov 10 16:11:02 CET 2003
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:  BIOS-e820:  -
0009fc00 (usable)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:  BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 -
000a (reserved)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:  BIOS-e820: 000f -
0010 (reserved)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:  BIOS-e820: 0010 -
0fff (usable)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:  BIOS-e820: 0fff -
0fff3000 (ACPI NVS)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:  BIOS-e820: 0fff3000 -
1000 (ACPI data)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:  BIOS-e820:  -
0001 (reserved)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: On node 0 totalpages: 65520
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:   DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:   Normal zone: 61424 pages, LIFO
batch:14
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel:   HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Building zonelist for node : 0
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Kernel command line: devfs=mount
root=/dev/hda5 ide0=dma ide2=dma
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Local APIC disabled by BIOS --
reenabling.
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Found and enabled local APIC!
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: PID hash table entries: 1024 (order
10: 8192 bytes)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Detected 1470.289 MHz processor.
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 2891.77
BogoMIPS
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384
(order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
(order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ stepping
02
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ESR value before enabling vector:

Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ESR value after enabling vector:

Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Using local APIC timer interrupts.
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: calibrating APIC timer ...
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: . CPU clock speed is 1469.0774
MHz.
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: . host bus clock speed is 267.0231
MHz.
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs
1 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs
1 *3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs
1 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs
1 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB]
enabled at IRQ 3
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD]
enabled at IRQ 11
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA]
enabled at IRQ 11
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a
16550A
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Using anticipatory io scheduler
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM
disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: hda: Maxtor 6Y160P0, ATA DISK drive
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: hdb: Maxtor 32049H2, ATA DISK drive
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: hdc: LITE-ON LTR-40125S, ATAPI
CD/DVD-ROM drive
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: hda: max request size: 1024KiB
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: hdb: max request size: 128KiB
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: found reiserfs format "3.6" with
standard journal
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: reiserfs:warning:
CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is set ON
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: reiserfs:warning: - it is slow mode
for debugging.
Nov 10 20:31:22 avalon-xp kernel: Reiserfs journal params: device hda5,
size 819

[Cooker] kde and multiple sessions, aka fast user switching...

[Scott Chevalley]

I've implimented the "fix" to enable kdm to start multiple kde sessions
and it's working well, but I was wondering if there are any programs
that will graphically show who's logged in to which VT?  I thought I saw
something pass through the changelog list that put an icon in the KDE
tray to show who was logged in, but I can't find it now.  

I need to do something, even if it's create some superkaramba script
that show's who's logged in and make everyone run it, because people are
logging in multiple times because they don't know they are already
logged in.  

Sigh...

Thanks.

Scott

Re: [Cooker] OT - RPM question...

[Scott Chevalley]

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 18:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Scott Chevalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I've been updating my box using urpmi --auto-select for at least the past two 
> > or three release cycles, constantly running cooker.  I'm wondering if there is 
> > anyway to use urpmi or rpm to give me a list of files that exist on my system 
> > that don't belong to any installed packages, so I can clean things up a little 
> > bit.  
> 
> You might also want to have a look at "leaves" packages (packages
> that are not required by any other ones), there are things to
> remove from them, especially the ones that match /^lib/. You may
> want to use commandline "urpmi_rpm-find-leaves" or the relevant
> sort option in "rpmdrake-remove".

urpmi_rpm-find-leaves gives me a lot of packages.  I'll have to do it in
rpmdrake-remove so I can see the descriptions easier.  

Thanks.  I learn something new every day around here.  

Scott

Re: [Cooker] OT - RPM question...

[Scott Chevalley]

Quoting François Pons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Scott Chevalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I've been updating my box using urpmi --auto-select for at least the past
> two 
> > or three release cycles, constantly running cooker.  I'm wondering if there
> is 
> > anyway to use urpmi or rpm to give me a list of files that exist on my
> system 
> > that don't belong to any installed packages, so I can clean things up a
> little 
> > bit.  
> >  
> > I'm sure it would be much easier to just install from scratch, I just don't
> 
> > feel like tracking down all the contrib and plf packages I've installed
> over 
> > the years again.   
> 
> This could be a good tools to have, allowing unknown files to be seen, msec
> is
> already doing this though.
> 
> It could be nice to rebuild broken rpm database (I suppose this is what you
> want
> here ?).
> 
> François.
> 
> 

That would be a good side effect, but I'm looking for a way to find all the old
junk lying around my hard drive.  A few weeks ago I had a problem with styles in
KDE on cooker not working or showing up, and found the problem was an old libqt
library in /usr/lib/ that was messing things up.  I removed it and styles
started working again.  I probably should just wipe everything out and do a
fresh install every so often, but I'm lazy and it's so much work to track down
every little package that I need to have installed to get the system back to a
comfortable state.

Which reminds me.. if I were to create an autoinstall disk from my current
system, would it only list packages from main or would it include contrib and
plf packages?  If I then attempted an install from that disk would it have a
problem finding all the rpms if I kept a local mirror of cooker, contrib, and plf?  

Just a thought... I'm probably making it more complex than it needs to be...

Thanks,
Scott

[Cooker] OT - RPM question...

[Scott Chevalley]

I've been updating my box using urpmi --auto-select for at least the past two 
or three release cycles, constantly running cooker.  I'm wondering if there is 
anyway to use urpmi or rpm to give me a list of files that exist on my system 
that don't belong to any installed packages, so I can clean things up a little 
bit.  
 
I'm sure it would be much easier to just install from scratch, I just don't 
feel like tracking down all the contrib and plf packages I've installed over 
the years again.   
 
Thanks, 
 
Scott 
 

[Cooker] kde styles...

[Scott Chevalley]

 
Hi, 
 
I figure I have to be doing something wrong, but I was looking to change the 
KDE style last night and the only styles I see are Liquid and the default QT 
styles.  I installed all the kdemoreartwork packages and the .so files are in 
/usr/lib/kde3/plugins but KDE is not noticing.   
 
I do get some messages when running kcmshell style from the command prompt 
about some of the files being linked against incompatible QT version (3.1.2) 
 
I have libqt3-3.1.2-14mdk installed, which I think is the latest. 
 
thanks, 
scott 
 

Re: [Cooker] Please excuse my ignorance.........

[Scott Chevalley]

Yep, I live in Virginia and I have found, for me, the two fasted sites are
ftp.uninett.no and ftp.sunet.se which are both in Europe.  

Scott

Quoting Thomas Spuhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I am in Arizona and often European mirrors are faster especially in the
> evening. You just try different ones.
> I have a Comcast cable connection get up to 230k/s download.
> -- 
> Tomr
> 
> All e-mail sent from this site has been scanned for viruses.
> This E-mail has a digital signature attached for proof of its origin.
> 
> On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 11:29, Jay DeKing wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 October 2003 7:43 pm, Austin honored me with this
> communique:
> > > On 10/02/2003 11:07:44 AM, Steve Larabee wrote:
> > > > I am brand new to the "Cooker" scene and am having trouble finding
> 
> > > the
> > > > most effective way (not to mention reliable FTP site) to keep
> > > > updated.
> > >
> > > See http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki
> > >
> > > > A list of RELIABLE FTP sites in the eastern half of the US would also
> > > > be
> > > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > None.
> > >
> > > Austin
> > 
> > I live in Florida. All of the cooker mirrors that I use are in Europe. The
> 
> > ones I have tried in the U.S. are just too slow.
> > 
> > Close != faster.
> > 
> > Jay
> 
> 

Re: [Cooker] Bootsplash question...

[scott chevalley]

Warly wrote:

scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

On Saturday 14 June 2003 07:56 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
   

On Saturday 14 June 2003 04:43 pm, scott chevalley wrote:
 

I was just wondering if there are any plans on incorporating some of the
ideas from www.bootsplash.org into the next version or so of Mandrake?  I
like the idea of having a silent bootsplash screen or a verbose one.
I was looking into how to make the bootsplash.org version work on 9.1,
but I, unfortunately, don't really understand how either version works.
   

Isn't this already used by mandrake?
 

Not quite... Mandrake sorta supports the version 2 spec of bootsplash themes, 
but not the newer v3, which supports a quiet screen that just shows the 
progress bar. Mandrake also doesn't support MNG animations on the bootsplash, 
like SuSE does.
   

Yes, I am just waiting for the kernel team to incorporate the kernel patch and
then will update the bootsplash code.
 

in the immortal words of Cartman: "kickass!"  :)

Re: [Cooker] Bootsplash question...

[scott chevalley]

Leon Brooks wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:41, scott wrote:
 

Mandrake also doesn't support MNG animations
on the bootsplash, like SuSE does.
   

And Xandros. It's very pretty. If it can be done easily, let's do it now 
before the next release cycle gets underway!

Cheers; Leon

 

I compiled a kernel with the patch from bootsplash.org, and while it 
boots and works with a normal MDK splashscreen i cannot figure out how 
the rc scripts work both with Mandrakes version and SuSE's version so i 
can figure out what needs to be different so the new bootsplash's work.  
Somewhere SuSE defines a box() function which is supposed to draw the 
box around where the progress bar goes and also allows the bar to use 
gradients. I just cannot find that function defined anywhere...

I'm not very good with init scripts to begin with... :)

I do know that there will need to be work done with mkinitrd to support 
the new version of the config file and also silent and verbose splash 
screens.

Scott

[Cooker] Bootsplash question...

[scott chevalley]

I was just wondering if there are any plans on incorporating some of the ideas 
from www.bootsplash.org into the next version or so of Mandrake?  I like the 
idea of having a silent bootsplash screen or a verbose one. 

I was looking into how to make the bootsplash.org version work on 9.1, but I, 
unfortunately, don't really understand how either version works.  

Just a suggestion.  :)

Scott

Re: [Cooker] sorta announcement

[scott chevalley]

won't that conflict with the Mandrake sponsored PHP-Nuke? :) 

I guess I'll have to update my website to .8 when it is released... 
sigh... :)

scott

Brook Humphrey wrote:

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onsdagen den 11 juni 2003 17.49 skrev Bret Baptist:
   

On Wednesday 11 June 2003 10:21 am, Oden Eriksson wrote:
 

Hi cookers,

I recompiled all the apache2 and php stuff today and you find more info
at the news flash section at:
http://www.deserve-it.com/modules_for_apache2.html
Have fun!
   

Hey Oden, do you know if after the LZW patent expires on the 20th of
June, we are going to have a PHP-GD that can write gifs?  It would be
really nice for the content management system that I run.  Thanks.
 

Ha ha ha!!!, I didn't know it expires so soon. Cool! But I think I have a
php-gd spec file somewhere that uses the PLF version of gd2 (with gif r/w
support). What CMS system do you use if I may ask?
   

Can't speak for him but I'm one of the core developers for postnuke. ANd I'm 
thinking the same thing.

We are in a massive rewrite of the core now. .8 should be out soon and we will 
be sure to put it into contribs when complete.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: WARNING : GNOME 2 broken

[scott chevalley]

Michael Reinsch wrote:

Hi!

On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:06:54 +0200
"Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Ok, GNOME 2 is back to normal.. Be sure to install BOTH ORBit2 2.7.2
and libbonobo 2.3.2..
   

Well, nautilus seems to be broken now: One can open a window, but when
reloading or double clicking on a directory, it crashes.
 

I second this.  Saw it last night after updated to cooker...

Re: [Cooker] After update to KDE 3.1.2, Konqueror can't create thumbnails

[scott chevalley]

It also starts creating those damned core files until you turn off 
previews...  It also happens in K3b because is tries to show thumbnails 
there as well...

Scott

Jason Straight wrote:

Yeah, this annoyance has been documented to 
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3903



On Thursday 05 June 2003 09:41 pm, Andy Neitzke wrote:
 

Hi,

Ever since being upgraded to the KDE 3.1.2 packages, Konqueror on my (fully
up-to-date) Cooker machine fails to create thumbnails for _any_ file type.
Thumbnails that already exist are presented just fine, but when Konqueror
encounters a file without a thumbnail (of a type for which previews are
turned on) the gear icon just spins for a while (roughly 1 sec for each
such file) without any thumbnail file being created.  The problem still
occurs if I create a new user, so I don't think it has to do with a config
file. Anyone else seeing this?
Andy Neitzke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

 

Re: [Cooker] bootsplash question...

[scott chevalley]

Warly wrote:

scott chevalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

This may not be the best place to ask this question, but I'll try it
anyway.  I've been playing around with creating bootsplash images in
9.1 and it seems that there is an upper limit to the size / quality
setting you can use when saving the jpg out from Gimp. Does anyone
know, by chance, what that upper limit is specifically.  I have a
really nice bootsplash right now, but it suffers from low quality
jpegness... lots of noise and artifacts. thanks...
   

you must use the basic saving:

quality 0.75, no optimize no progressive

 

Thanks, I'll try it and see what cool bootsplashes I can come up with... :)

Scott

[Cooker] bootsplash question...

[scott chevalley]

This may not be the best place to ask this question, but I'll try it 
anyway.  I've been playing around with creating bootsplash images in 9.1 
and it seems that there is an upper limit to the size / quality setting 
you can use when saving the jpg out from Gimp. 

Does anyone know, by chance, what that upper limit is specifically.  I 
have a really nice bootsplash right now, but it suffers from low quality 
jpegness... lots of noise and artifacts. 

thanks...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Anyone running 2.5 beta kernels with current cooker?

[scott chevalley]

I think depmod is also a part of the new modutil package.  i installed 
an older version a while back but I don't think it was from rpm...



Oden Eriksson wrote:

torsdagen den 27 mars 2003 21.58 skrev MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1):
 

I know this is a bit OT for cooker but I noticed something when I do depmod
on my 2.5.66 kernel. I get QM_MODULES: function not implemented. I googled
on that but did not find a definitive answer...
   

I belive there's another suite besides modutils you have to use for 2.5.x 
kernels, but can't remember its name... (I could be wrong though...)

 

Re: [Cooker] Anyone running 2.5 beta kernels with current cooker?

[scott chevalley]

the kernel module loader was completely rewritten around 2.5.48 and so a 
new set of mod-utils
necessary to load modules... I think unloading modules was disabled in 
the 2.5.x kernels, as well.

If time permits, I'm curious to try out the anticipatory scheduler as 
well as the CFQ scheduler patch...

I wonder how well it works on a laptop... :)

Scott





When I used the .config from Mandrake and did a make oldconfig, I would get
the same result. But if I generate a new .config buy just running make
xconfig and adding the few modules it didn't autodetect, it works fine. Do
you have the module tools installed? Not sure exactly the purpose of it but
I installed it first...
Cory

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Cooker] Anyone running 2.5 beta kernels with current cooker?

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:34:15 -0800 (PST), "MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1)"
wrote:
 

I have 2.5.66 running on 9.1. It compiles and boots okay but there are 
a fair amount of modules that don't load, like firewire, NICs, USB...

Cory

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Subject: [Cooker] Anyone running 2.5 beta kernels with current cooker?
Has anybody tried to run 2.5 kernels with the current cooker? Before I 
get the sources and start figuring out how to get it configured, 
build, installed and up I would like to hear from a couple of things 
which comes to my mind.

Is the glibc coming with the Mandrake good for the 2.5 kernels? Is it 
possible to have environment working both with the current "Mandrake" 
2.4 kernels and with the 2.5 kernels? I would just like to boot 2.5 
kernel experimentally to check out whether there are problems with my 
hardware, and boot to 2.4 kernel to do a serious work...
(I think that 2.5 kernels requires at least newer versions from the 
kernel module related tools)

What about devfs, could Mandrake apps be compatible with the version
available in the 2.5 kernel?
Mika

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Cory,

What issues did you have in getting 2.5.66 to build and boot?

I got it to build, but it stops after saying it was starting the kernel.  I
just found a reference to changes that need to be made to the config file to
have a console installed.  Was this a problem for you, and if so, what was
the fix?
Paul Misner

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Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

[scott chevalley]

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:05 pm, Gary Greene wrote:

 

I know, and I don't mean to be rude.  I am willing to report this
upstream, I just would like someone from MandrakeSoft to let me know if
this is desireable, or if it is better handled through "official"
channels since it affects the just finished release.
 

I'd say that if it's a Qt/KDE problem, then yes, PLEASE report this to the
appropriate places. MandrakeSoft cannot and should not be viewed as the
only outlet for the various projects. If this is a general problem with
KDE/Qt, then other distros and LFS will be running into the same problem.
Thus it really should be reported.
   

I will go and do that, but again, I was hoping to have some evidence about 
whether this is a qt problem or a Mandrake specific bug introduced in the 
packaging.

 

 QT 3.1.2 just came out, I wonder if the patch breaks that too... :) 

Scott

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

[scott chevalley]

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 06:07 am, Jan Ciger wrote:
 

Jan,

  This just occured to me  When I had beta3 installed and just
before RC1 came out qt3 and lib1t3 where upgraded.  Let me see if my
older disks are anywhere around... (slim chance) but just about that
time my ability to launch kde3 died. And at that time I was using XFree
3.3.6 (the performace is better in an ATI Mobility chip than earlier
versions of the 4 series XFree) Now if I go into 3.3.6 I get the exact
same reaction from kde in normal mode as I do in Xnest or vnc with 4.3.
The error it dies on is that DCOP server is failing.  btw I can
reproduce this error at any time by switching from one XFree version to
the other.  I found libqt3 8mdk and current is 13 let me downgrade and
try it
James
 

This just confirms it - XFree 3.3.6 didn't have Render yet, that came only
with the 4.x series, that's why you have the problem.
Some other people here already confirmed, that the problem goes away, when
you disable antialiasing in Qt and recompile it.
I guess, that the bug is in Qt's handling of antialiasing, it does not fall
back to non-antialiased mode when Render is not available and crashes the
application.
Jan
   

I'll ask again then.  Should this be reported upstream?  I didn't see anything 
about this in the KDE bugzilla.  I did not check trolltech.
 

It wasn't a kde problem... a patch was applied to libqt3 between 12mdk 
and 13mdk that forces the use of AA fonts, which will fail if the Render 
extension is not present.  There's a link in a previous message that 
points to a version of libqt3 without that patch and it works fine.

Scott

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

[scott chevalley]

Jan Ciger wrote:

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Jan,
  I get the same thing here in a regular window (ie my desktop)
anti-aliasing etc is working fine.  But only in vnc or Xnest do the qt
applications give this kind of error.  Same version of vnc in 9.0 works
fine.  So I don't suspect vnc.
   

You do get the same error when running the same app directly (without Xnest or 
VNC) ? Then how come that the antialiasing works, when it does not have 
Render ? Either I am missing something or we do not understand each other.

 

If you do (and you are right, it is butt ugly) disable it you still get
this same error.  But again only in Xnest or vnc.
   

But you have to recompile Qt for that. If you just unset the option in KDE and 
unset the environment variables for that (QT_XFT or something like that), 
that does not help - Qt will not use antialiasing, but will still require it. 

When you compile Qt, there is an option -xft and -xrender, which control this 
behavior and both are on by default : 

   -no-xrender  Do not compile XRender support.
*  -xrender ... Compile XRender support.
Requires X11/extensions/Xrender.h and libXrender.
   -no-xft  Do not compile Xft (anti-aliased font) support.
*  -xft ... Compile Xft support.
Requires X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h and libXft.
I guess, that on a display, which does not support XRender extension, code 
linked again a library compiled with these on will fail. I think, that 
neither VNC and XNest support it on their emulated displays.  

Jan
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I do believe this worked for me recently... I think it became broken, at 
least that I noticed it, around RC1 or just afterwards...  and I know 
that kde apps, and Xft in general is supposed to automatically fall back 
to the normal rendering if the RENDER extension is not available...

scott

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

[scott chevalley]

Jan Ciger wrote:

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Don't you want to try a Qt-only app on GNOME to confirm? mysqlcc or
qcad or something else qt-only should do.
   

Just tried a pure qt app in an Xnested Fluxbox and it segfaults. The
same app runs fine in gnome:
$ ./qttest
Xlib: extension "RENDER" missing on display ":1.0".
Segmentation fault.
 

Just also made sure that the same app was running fine in Fluxbox on a
local :1.0 display.
   

Could it be, that Qt is compiled with antialiasing (Xft) on ? That needs 
Render and on nested displays you (obviously) do not have Render extension, 
so it exits ... 

But how to fix this, I have no idea, since if you disable antialiasing in Qt, 
many apps (KDE) will look ugly. Perhaps smarter handling of antialiasing in 
Qt is needed ?

Jan
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I just did "gdb konqueror" while connected to an icewm session running 
under vnc, ran konqueror until it crashed.  gdb gave this message when 
it crashed:  0x41362ca9 in XftDrawString16 () from 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2

While I'm very new to using gdb to debug apps, I think it may have 
something to do with Xft...

Just my humble 0.02 worth...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] security audit

[scott chevalley]

Levi Ramsey wrote:

On Fri Mar 14 13:45 -0500, scott chevalley wrote:
 

or, even more simply, resetting the bios, either by removing the cmos 
battery, or in some computers there is a cmos clear pin header.  short 
the pins and it clears cmos, including passwords
   

That wouldn't disable the LILO password, though...

 

true, but it would allow someone with a boot disk or cd to boot the 
system...

Re: [Cooker] security audit

[scott chevalley]

Levi Ramsey wrote:

On Fri Mar 14 11:52 -0500, Jason Straight wrote:
 

On Friday 14 March 2003 11:11 am, Levi Ramsey wrote:
   

If someone has physical access to the computer they can pass their own
parameters to the kernel, including init=/bin/bash, whcih, bada bing
bada boom, gives them instant root.
 

man lilo - you can restrict it from allowing cmdline, or even booting 
altogether wihout a pw.
   

Still, if someone has physical access to the computer, there's no
stopping them from opening it, removing the drive, mounting it
themselves, and editing the boot-sector to disable the password ;o)
 

or, even more simply, resetting the bios, either by removing the cmos 
battery, or in some computers there is a cmos clear pin header.  short 
the pins and it clears cmos, including passwords

Re: [Cooker] security audit

[scott chevalley]

jokerman64 wrote:

On Friday 14 March 2003 6:58 am, Han Boetes wrote:
 

Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

That's a local exploit. I can think of a few other local
``exploits'' as well, like booting in single user mode.
   

 this is not a exploit if you can _boot_ in single user mode it's
mean you have acess to the hardware and if you have access we cannot
do anything of security for you.
 

Ahem, you are right. :)



# Han
   

I disagree, i don't think that if you go into single user mode that you should 
be root. You should still have to log in. The argument that someone has 
physical access to your computer thus making it your problem and not an 
exploit is IMHO fallacious. No one should be able to get root that easily.
 

perhaps not by default, but if you type
linux single init=/bin/sh
at a lilo prompt (or grub, but it would look different), you can bypass 
any security on the system except for encrypted filesystem security, as 
far as I'm aware.  Besides, with all the knoppix based CD distro's out 
there, including one that fits on a  business card CD, anyone can boot 
the pc with that and Knoppix will automatically mount all the 
recognizable partitions as it boots.. 

Just my 0.02

Scott

Re: [Cooker] .fonts.cache files in konqueror

[scott chevalley]

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Monday 10 March 2003 08:56 am, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:43:44 -0500, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote:
   

Appears to be still doing this as of Saturday's cooker.
 

Running fc-cache as root will fix the problem..

   

This did not work here.

Ran fc-cache as root, logged out of KDE and back in, clicked Home icon and 
error .fonts.cache files were still created all over the place.

 

It's doing it to me again now... so I went through and disabled each 
preview until it stopped... Before it was images... now it is text 
files... Running fc-cache as root did not change behavior.  Btw, this is 
on a Dell Inspiron 2650 laptop.   I'll have to check my desktop to see 
if it suffers too...

It's very strange

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Crashing XFree-4.3 with tdfx

[scott chevalley]

I have a 3dfx Voodoo3 agp card and have noticed, for the longest time, 
if DRI is enabled in X, it will crash or do other goofy stuff, most 
particularly when switching screen resolutions.  I disable DRI and V4L 
and it works pretty good, as long as you don't happen to need either of 
those things... :)

Scott

Vlastimil Holer wrote:

Hi,

after using some XFree-4.2.99 versions I upgraded to XFree-4.3
(everything from Cooker). But now I experience X server
crashes during screen resolution switching (e.g. with xawtv).
Does anybody experience these problems too?
I'm using 3dfx Voodoo3 PCI, XFree86-4.3-2mdk, 1600x1200, 16bit,
starting to run level 3.
Thanks,
Vlasta

Faculty of Informatics e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Masaryk University Brnowww: www.fi.muni.cz/~xholer
Czech Republic 


 

Re: [Cooker] .fonts.cache files in konqueror

[scott chevalley]

I updated to cooker very late Saturday night and it seemed to be fixed 
for me.  I even did a test of watching for font.cache files while 
testing all the previews and they were not created...

hmmm

scott

Vincent Meyer, MD wrote:

Appears to be still doing this as of Saturday's cooker.

V.

On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:22 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 

On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:16 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote:
   

Is anyone else experiencing this after the latest kdebase upgrade?

I opened konqueror (it defaults to my home dir). Usually it opens in
"detailed list view" without showing hidden files, but this time it
opened in "icon view" with hidden files. Anyway, my processor was going
at 100% constantly adding empty files named like the following:
".fonts.cache-1.TMP-Axl3v0". It had added 168 before I changed back to
detailed list view.
 

Yeah, this was first posted by Texstar the day rc1 was released.  I don't
know the status of the fix though.
   



 

[Cooker] konqueror icon problems.

[scott chevalley]

I just noticed, on my laptop, that when I run Konqueror to browse the 
filesystem, the icons constantly flash, as if they are being redrawn.  I 
ran a strace on it and found it had something to do with the .thumbnail 
directory.  I deleted that directory, but that didn't help. 

I then individually deselected each type of icon preview and found the 
when Image preview is enabled, the icons flash.  Other previews do not 
seem to have the problem.

It's a dell inspiron 2650C, celeron 1.6g, Nvidia gforce2, 128M ram. 

Thanks,
scott

Re: [Cooker] ACPI Commands

[scott chevalley]

Buchan Milne wrote:

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Now *that* *is* pretty neat. 1:30 from power-on until I had unlocked my
screensaver (0:26 from power-on until the resume prog started up).
   

Except I seem to have lost my mouse and keyboard 2nd time around (but
the network is still up ;-).
Will try and get some debugging info on this if possible ...

Buchan

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I got the same thing when I tried it on my Dell laptop.  It seems to 
work, but X doesn't get keyboard or mouse back. 

And it definitely does not work with NVidia's drivers running... :)

Scott

Re: [Cooker] ACPI Commands

[scott chevalley]

James Sparenberg wrote:

On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 04:52, Adam Williamson wrote:
 

On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 23:30, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote:
   

Someone who is more familiar with ACPI than me, can you post some
commands to see if ACPI works correctly? On the ACPI stuff that I have
read there is acpiclt applet that has come control over ACPI but it's
not included or I can't seem to find it. I have acpid running and all
the modules, minus the Toshiba one. I have battery status and it knows
when AC is plugged in. Aside from that, I'm not sure how to test any
other ACPI functionality...
 

Oops - echo 5 > /proc/acpi/sleep is soft-off. echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep
is suspend-to-disk. Sorry.
   

Adam,

  Does apm suspend to disk count?  I've got that one working... (acpi
doesn't even come close to working here..) *grin*
James



 

I just bought a Dell laptop and was wondering where I could find info 
for setting up apm to do suspend to disk and battery monitoring.  ACPI 
works only to show the battery state. 

It's a Dell Inspiron 2650C.

Thanks,
Scott

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Galaxy Theme?

[R. Scott Chevalley]

Warly wrote:


Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Shift wrote:

   

Le Samedi 15 Février 2003 21:14, Timothy R. Butler a écrit :
 

Hi,
 I was just wondering what package this new theme for KDE and GTK is in? I
wanted to see what it looks like, but the only package I can find is the
Galaxy welcome message/program launcher tool. (I'm running Beta 3 updated
to Cooker)

   

For the moment only gtk one is ready.
 

Will there be a Qt/KDE one? Or is effort being spent on mdkkdm (I'm hoping
for galaxy-kde since we will probably use the real kdm).
   


Yes there will be a kde galaxy theme.

 

Will the final kde galaxy theme include a kwin theme as well?  I like 
the metacity theme in Gnome...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore

[scott chevalley]

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:


Austin Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

I find 'GNOME' to be offensive to short people, 'Evolution' goes against
some people's beliefs, I'm a bit of a pyromaniac and 'Arson' makes me
relapse, 'the Gimp' has homosexual connotations, so does 'suck', I had a
girlfriend named 'Gail' once and it hurts to remember her, same goes for
'Ruby', 'Amanda', and 'Perl' (I get around), 'oaf' is offensive to the
mentally challenged, I don't like 'soup', I don't wear 'sox', 'Slay'
promotes violence, 'cadaver' is morbid, so is 'deadftp', 'subversion'
promotes anarchy, and on and on.

Please remove all of them at once.
I am offended.
   


i don't know if it's offending but it's bloody funny :)


 

I've read this thread and my only thoughts are "I didn't know "man sex" 
existed until an hour ago and I think it's damn funny" and "What 9 year 
old is going to go to a shell prompt and type "man sex" for the hell of 
it?" 

I can't get my 14 year old daughter to touch a computer running Linux 
unless it has a punk-rock penguin logo somewhere visible.  She's not 
going to be terribly interested in textual man pages

This all reminds me of the old apple II adventure game.  If you type 
"fuck you" when playing it would respond "your place or mine?"  And that 
was in the early '80s! 

Just my 0.02 worth...

scott

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Beta 3 and Dual Processors

[scott chevalley]

Ross Ferson wrote:


It appears not,

2.4.21pre4-1mdk

is uname -r result


thoughts on next step?
is it something that i would have had to select on install?  I have not used
mandrake b4.

THanks

Ross
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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Beta 3 and Dual Processors


 

"Ross Ferson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   

I have used linux for some time, but this is my first jump into
Mandrake. I tried beta 3 for KDE 3.1 anyways, i have a dual PIII
1.13 with 512 cache on each chip. Mandrake 9.1 b3 is not
recognizing the 2nd proc. Did I miss something or is this a beta
issue?
 

kernel-smp was not installed ?


   



 

Previously the installer would determine automatically that you were 
multi-processor and install the smp kernel by default.  I installed 
cooker on my wifes Dual Celeron a month ago, but i didn't notice if it 
was using the SMP kernel.  I'll have to check...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] mdkkdm - project goals? (So we can help)

[scott chevalley]

Laurent Montel wrote:


Le Monday 03 February 2003 15:39, Jason Straight a écrit :
 

Now that I feel mandrake has done the politically correct thing by not
taking away our choice, I'd like to know more about mdkkdm and what it's
plans are?

One suggestion, move it to another name so it can be installed alongside
kdebase-kdm, so those of us who want to help can flip back and forth as we
play ;)

I take it due to it's initial replacement of kdm that it's supposed to be a
100% compatible drop in for kdm, is it meant to have perfect function match
eventually? I mean will all features in the kcontrol panel eventually
reflect settings to mdkkdm?
   


mdkkdm use kcontrol->kdm configuration file.

 

What is the whole reason behind mdkkdm? Just branding or is there some goal
to new added functionality that's being worked on?
   


There is not new feature.

 

In the past I've seen mdk changes that were not liked at first, I remember
some rpmdrake things that really pissed people off, but mdk came through
with a very nice rpmdrake. I trust that will happen with mdkkdm as well,
but I'm glad the choice isn't taken away from us now to use what we want to
use.
   


 

I think kde's kdm is really nice, couldn't the kdm that's already there
just have some branding added to it by mdk without redoing the layout and
functions? 
   


New kdm is a just a redesign of kdm.

Regards.

 

I still think it should be a separate package however even in
that case.
   



 

I took a look at it last night and I immediately felt I knew the reason 
behind the redesign: Newbies.  If you stand back and look at it from the 
right perspective, it looks like an attempt to copy the XP login 
manager, only instead of having the Icon's and names on the background, 
it's all in a window. 

XP works fairly similar in that you have to click on a name before you 
get a password prompt.  Also, it hides administrator users as well. 

Overall, it's got potential.  Some things I'd like to see fixed (if they 
haven't been already) are:

   *  Don't make the any of the buttons at the bottom of the dialog 
have focus.  This way enter won't
  reboot or halt the computer.

   *   If possible, make an option to have the names and icons drawn on 
the desktop like XP with
   themable placement. 

   *   In keeping with recent discussions on switching users, one thing 
XP does that this login manager
   is ideal for is showing who's logged in already and if there are 
programs running for that user.
   Perhaps grayscaling or fading the icon for logged in users and 
have a line under is saying "XX open
   applications".  you could filter out GNOME or KDE desktop 
related processes to show "apps". 


Just some suggestions

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Easy Idea to Make Mandrake Better: "Fast User Switching"

[scott chevalley]

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:


Damian Gatabria wrote:


Does GDM run by default on a Mandrake install where the user has chosen
KDE as the default desktop?
   


Well, i really don't know... but since it's the only DM that has a consistent
look with Mandrake's background images and icons, i would guess so.

Damian
 

I was under the impression that KDM was used when KDE is chosen as the 
default.

The only reason I'm commenting on this is because I occasionally set 
up another X session for my fiance'.  I have to select another tty, 
login to her user account and run startx -- :1 to get her off to the 
races.  I'm sure a properly written shell script would do the same 
thing but I haven't gotten around to it.

I tried what was suggested above:

K --> Configuration --> Start up & init --> New login with GDM

 

This does not work due to the fact GDM is not running. (At least that 
is what the dialog box says.) :-)

This feature would be excellent for dorm rooms and other shared living 
arrangements.  You can easily check your e-mail and not screw up your 
room mates term paper...cd burn, etc.

--
Brant Fitzsimmons
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Must be Thursday... Bwahahahahah..." -Mind Slap in ZDNet Forum regarding the almost immediate hack of new "Smart Phone" running MS OS.
 

to change from KDM to GDM as the login manager, edit 
/etc/sysconfig/desktop and change DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm to 
DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and then do a service dm restart and you'll have gdm 
running. 

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio Users

[scott chevalley]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 29 Jan 2003, Austin Acton wrote:

 

I asked for people's biggest beef with 9.0 w/r/t audio apps.  Here's
what I got (please comment if you know a good answer):
1. supermount in 9.0 sucks
   

tell them to become clubmembers :)

 

3. no low-latency patched kernel
   

I've been playing with the idea to put a preempt kernel in contrib for 
9.1. If I can find time.

 

5. no GUI to change sound card settings a.k.a. draksound is too basic
   

*agree*
 

6. no easy way to disable arts, and it interferes with everything
   

huh? kcontrol?


Danny



 

preempt would be very nice.  I only hope it will also have XFS support.. :)

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Broken KFMCLIENT in last update

[scott chevalley]

John Allen wrote:


On Wednesday 29 January 2003 18:41, Bret Baptist wrote:
 

On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:36 pm, scott chevalley wrote:
   

Just a thought, but perhaps update-menus didn't run correctly during the
install of the rpms.  Have you tried manually running update-menus as
root?  If it's complaining about missing .desktop files, that could very
well be the culprit.

Just a thought.  :)

Scott
 

Nope same results.  I ran update-menus and it still does it.  Even with the
updates to kde from today.

kdebase-3.1-3mdk
kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-3mdk
   


I copied the konqueror.desktop from /usr/share/applnk to /usr/share/applnk-mdk
and hey presto its working again
 

hmmm... at some point during the past few weeks I had done a new install 
of cooker into its own partition and found that applnk-mdk/ was empty.  
I deleted it and made it a symlink to applnk/ , but that didn't really 
work very well.  Then I deleted the applnk-mdk directory and ran 
update-menu's and presto it was back, looking normal.  Perhaps there is 
some permissions problem going on with the applnk-mdk  folder that is 
preventing update-menus from working right, or I did some update that 
fixed the original problem. 

or, perhaps the code in update-menus that generates the 
konqueror.desktop file is broke.  If copying the file fixes the problem, 
then it  does have to do with whatever code creates the applnk-mdk/ 
directory tree.

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Broken KFMCLIENT in last update

[scott chevalley]

Crispin Boylan wrote:


scott chevalley wrote:


Jason Straight wrote:


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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:57 am, scott chevalley wrote:
 

I tested this out myself last night and had no problems with 
Konqueror.  I was able to surf the web, including an ftp site, and 
do file
management tasks as well.  The only problem I had was trying to 
print.  I said it printed but nothing ever came out of the printer.

I'm running cooker as of late last night.

Scott
  



Mine also works fine. I use standard kde menus, not the mandrake 
menus. I wonder if this might have something to do with it?


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I don't think so, as I'm running the mandrake menu's.  But, this is 
an upgraded system, not newly installed, and my /home is on a 
seperate volume that has been around since before 9.0 was 
released...  I just can't imagine it's something in the home 
directory that's causing it.
hmmm...

Scott




i get the same behaviour, neither the browser or the home page will 
open and give me the same errors.  I'm not using a newly installed 
system either, I was fine on rc6, its when i updated kdebase to 
3.1-1mdk (2mdk and 3mdk have not fixed the behaviour either) that the 
problem started occuring.  I've also tried recreating the .kde 
directory from scratch and the problem still occurs.

cheers
cris.


Just a thought, but perhaps update-menus didn't run correctly during the 
install of the rpms.  Have you tried manually running update-menus as 
root?  If it's complaining about missing .desktop files, that could very 
well be the culprit. 

Just a thought.  :)

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Broken KFMCLIENT in last update

[scott chevalley]

Jason Straight wrote:


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Hash: SHA1

On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:57 am, scott chevalley wrote:
 

I tested this out myself last night and had no problems with Konqueror.  
I was able to surf the web, including an ftp site, and do file
management tasks as well.  The only problem I had was trying to print.  
I said it printed but nothing ever came out of the printer.

I'm running cooker as of late last night.

Scott
   


Mine also works fine. I use standard kde menus, not the mandrake menus. I 
wonder if this might have something to do with it?


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I don't think so, as I'm running the mandrake menu's.  But, this is an 
upgraded system, not newly installed, and my /home is on a seperate 
volume that has been around since before 9.0 was released...  I just 
can't imagine it's something in the home directory that's causing it. 

hmmm...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Broken KFMCLIENT in last update

[scott chevalley]

Bret Baptist wrote:


On Wednesday 29 January 2003 8:48 am, Serge Plüss wrote:
 

Hi

after doing my morning urpmi update I can't launch Konqueror as a
Webbrowser nor as the Home Icon.
From the command line I can launch 'konqueror' but if I do the command that
is behind the icons I get the following output:

kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing
ERROR: Couldn't start konqueror from konqueror.desktop: Could not find
service 'konqueror.desktop'.

Nothing on the desktop has changed since before the update today and it was
working properly until this new update with:

cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdeaddons-3.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdebase-3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm
cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdebase-devel-3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm
cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm
cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdemultimedia-3.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdemultimedia-aktion-3.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kdemultimedia-devel-3.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/koffice-1.2.1-4mdk.i586.rpm
cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/koffice-devel-1.2.1-4mdk.i586.rpm


Thanks

Serge
   


I can confirm this behavour.  I get the exact same results.


 

I tested this out myself last night and had no problems with Konqueror.  
I was able to surf the web, including an ftp site, and do file 
management tasks as well.  The only problem I had was trying to print.  
I said it printed but nothing ever came out of the printer. 

I'm running cooker as of late last night.

Scott

Re: [Cooker] After Upgrade - service dm doesn't start

[scott chevalley]

Pixel wrote:


Jason Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 07:34, Robert Fox wrote:
   

I have upgraded several machines with the latest Cooker install and
after restart - it dumps me to a console.  Apparently the service "dm"
is not starting.  When I start it manually - it works fine.

It is also check to start at boot under DrakXservices.

Thx,
R.Fox
 

Robert,

When I upgraded X yesterday, the upgrade changed my runlevel from 5 to
3. Check /etc/inittab to see if it did the same to you. Switch it to 5
and you should be good to go.
   


maybe you should enter it in bugzilla for package "initscripts"?

 

I noticed this when I was merging .rpmnew files this morning.  I wound 
up deleting the new version because I didn't notice anything other than 
that and a change in running some update script. 

Scott

[Cooker] This doesn't sound positive...

[scott chevalley]

Check this story out:

http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/20542.html

It paints a pretty bleak picture... I only hope it's an exageration...

I know it's off-topic, but I'd like to see MDK  9.1 last through the
end of the month :)

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake websites dissappeared ??

[scott chevalley]

Thomas Backlund wrote:


Anuone else seen this...

I cant connect to any of them...

Thomas


 

it's probably being slashdotted right now...

http://slashdot.org/articles/03/01/15/1727240.shtml?tid=147

scott

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

[scott chevalley]

Luca Olivetti wrote:


Buchan Milne wrote:


RH has a working solution (automount), and they're not supposed to be a
desktop distro (or weren't).



the funny thing is that automount, once configured, works perfectly 
under mandrake too.

Bye

I'm sure this is a stupid question, but where can I find info on setting 
up automount under MDK?

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Where's the Kdebase rc6.4mdk ?

[scott chevalley]

John Allen wrote:


On Thursday 09 January 2003 16:17, John van Spaandonk wrote:
 

On Thursday 09 January 2003 17:07, arakeis wrote:
   

Have someone seen the following rpms :
kdebase-3.1-0.rc6.4mdk.i586.rpm
popt-1.6.4-25mdk.i586.rpm
rpm-4.0.4-25mdk.i586.rpm ?

Looks like there having fun somewhere between mdk and
the mirrors !

Or is it me ?
 

It must be the mirror.
I got these packages yesterday evening 22:30, from ftp.surfnet.nl
   


But they disappeared today sometime, back now though
 

I just looked on ftp.surfnet.nl, ftp.uninett.no, ftp.sunet.se and none 
of them have these files as of 12:45pm EST.  I wonder where they went?

Scott

Re: [Cooker] MakeCD problems...

[scott chevalley]

I just also noticed that everything under 
/misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/Mkcd is gone too... perhaps the mirror I'm 
using is not quite up to date as I thought... h

Thanks
Scott

scott chevalley wrote:

Thanks!  I just updated my mirror from ftp.club-internet.fr (which 
seems to be the most up-to-date mirror) and got this error:

[scott@avalon-xp misc]$ ./MakeCD --help
Can't locate File/NCopy.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux/ ..//misc 
..//misc/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi ..//misc/perl5/5.8.0 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
/..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
..//misc ..//misc/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
..//misc/perl5/5.8.0 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/ 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at 
..//misc/mkcd line 9.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ..//misc/mkcd line 9.

I search the entire system and cannot find NCopy.pm anywhere... I 
looked at the mdk 9 cd's and it's there under 
/misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/File/ 
Perhaps it got misplaced somewhere? 
Thanks again

Scott


Warly wrote:

"R. Scott Chevalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

Hi,

I just mirrored cooker from ftp.sunet.se and when i try and to run
MakeCD to build the cd iso's I get this message:

[scott@avalon-xp misc]$ ./MakeCD -help
URPM object version 0.81 does not match bootstrap parameter 0.70 at
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0//i386-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm
line 249.
  


OK I need to update the mkcd version in /misc, thanks for noticing.

 

Re: [Cooker] MakeCD problems...

[scott chevalley]

Thanks!  I just updated my mirror from ftp.club-internet.fr (which seems 
to be the most up-to-date mirror) and got this error:

[scott@avalon-xp misc]$ ./MakeCD --help
Can't locate File/NCopy.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux/ ..//misc 
..//misc/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi ..//misc/perl5/5.8.0 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
/..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
..//misc ..//misc/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
..//misc/perl5/5.8.0 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/ 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/ 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at 
..//misc/mkcd line 9.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ..//misc/mkcd line 9.

I search the entire system and cannot find NCopy.pm anywhere... I looked 
at the mdk 9 cd's and it's there under /misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/File/  

Perhaps it got misplaced somewhere?  

Thanks again

Scott


Warly wrote:

"R. Scott Chevalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

Hi,

I just mirrored cooker from ftp.sunet.se and when i try and to run
MakeCD to build the cd iso's I get this message:

[scott@avalon-xp misc]$ ./MakeCD -help
URPM object version 0.81 does not match bootstrap parameter 0.70 at
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0//i386-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm
line 249.
   


OK I need to update the mkcd version in /misc, thanks for noticing.

 

[Cooker] MakeCD problems...

[R. Scott Chevalley]

Hi,

I just mirrored cooker from ftp.sunet.se and when i try and to run 
MakeCD to build the cd iso's I get this message:

[scott@avalon-xp misc]$ ./MakeCD -help
URPM object version 0.81 does not match bootstrap parameter 0.70 at 
..//Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0//i386-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm 
line 249.
Compilation failed in require at 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/Mkcd/Tools.pm
line 11.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
..//misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/Mkcd/Tools.pm line 11.
Compilation failed in require at ..//misc/mkcd line 11.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ..//misc/mkcd line 11.

This message happens regardless of the commandline options I feed it.  I 
updated the mirror this morning, but nothing had been added or changed 
since last night. 

Thanks,
Scott

Re: [Cooker] Question about H.323 and servers

[scott chevalley]

I briefly read something regarding forwarding netmeeting through a 
firewall and basically it's not possible without, maybe, a proxy. 
GnomeMeeting is forwardable because is communicates on a specific range 
of TCP and UDP ports, but Netmeeting randomly chooses the port it's 
going to use, which makes port forwarding difficult.  

You can check on gnomemeetings website (http://www.gnomemeeting.org), 
there are some links to H.323 proxy servers there.

I hope this helps.
Scott


Pierre BETOUIN wrote:

Hello,
I would like to know if there is a package which forwards H.323 packets.
There's a computer behind my firewall which needs to run netmeeting and
it can't now because of theses packets i think...

Are H.323 raw packets?

   Pierre

 

Re: [Cooker] mplayer in main ?

[scott chevalley]

Ben Reser wrote:


On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 05:15:30PM +0200, Faraj Meir wrote:
 

Yep but Quicktime is commercial not mplayer
   


The licensing page doesn't say commercial.  It says receives
renumeration for.  Apple doesn't receive renumeration for most Quicktime
players.  Most are free (as in beer) downloads.

It could be argued that anything that goes in main, Mandrake receives
renumeration for (it gets included in box copies and people buy the
copies).  

 

I think you could argue the case that Mandrake is selling the physical 
box and the support for that box, but that the software included is 
(mostly) free, which is different from charging specifically for the 
software itself.  If it were a package that was only included in the 
boxed set and not the download version (i.e. StarOffice), then I think 
it would be obvious that Star Office is a monetary value add-on for the 
boxed set.  

Just a thought...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] kernel2.4.20-0.1 and supermount

[scott chevalley]

Yes, I noticed a similar thing on my wifes computer running 9.0.  I was 
installing Quicken under Crossover Office and it would hang during the 
installation from the cd.  when i looked, all the files where gone.  I 
disabled supermount and it worked fine.  

Scott

Eric Piel wrote:

Hello

I still have troubles with supermount, even in kernel2.4.20-0.1. It
has never correctly worked in 2.4.19 but was always fine with 2.4.18.

The problems are that if I access a file (like listenning to a mp3
with xmms) then after few seconds all the other files are missing. I
have to eject the cdrom and reload it to listen to the next mp3...

Does anyone has the same problem? I think it's a bug in the supermount
code (which seems quite hard to maintain) but may be it's just a
configuration problem so here is my fstab line:
none /mnt/cdrom supermount
dev=/dev/hdc,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0

Eric



 

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.20.0.1mdk-1-1mdk

[scott chevalley]

I saw the 2.4.19 on mdk club but I need XFS support so instead I've been 
using a 2.5.46 kernel, which is working just fine so far.   I need to 
get 2.5.48 and compile that up to see what's new.  

If you get a chance and make a 2.4.20 with pre-empt and XFS, then I may 
use that as a fallback :).

thanks,
Scott

ps - I'd make an rpm of the 2.5.x series if I knew how to, but I just 
haven't figured out how to make a kernel rpm yet...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, scott chevalley wrote:

 

Does this include the preemption patch or low latency patch?
   

Although I haven't looked yet: I do not think so.
I provide a 2.4.19 preempt kernel on mdk club. And plan to soon include 
lock-breaking (already compiled and tested). The default mdk kernel does 
include a mini-lowlatency patch for the worst locks.

Perhaps I put a 2.4.20 preempt/lockbreak up, it would solve the issues I 
have with xfs (preempt doesn't play nice with xfs 1.1, but does with 
1.2pre3). Trouble is, al this acpi and other patches might have made the 
kernel more instable, and preempt/lock break on 2.4.19 have proved to be 
very stable.


Danny



 

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.20.0.1mdk-1-1mdk

[scott chevalley]

Does this include the preemption patch or low latency patch?

Just wondering.
Scott

Juan Quintela wrote:


--=-=-=
Name: kernel-2.4.20.0.1mdk Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Wed Nov 20 12:55:17 2002
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : System/Kernel and hardwareSource RPM: (none)
Size: 36685502 License: GPL
Packager: Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.kernel.org/
Summary : The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux operating system).
Description :
The kernel package contains the Linux kernel (vmlinuz), the core of your
Mandrake Linux operating system.  The kernel handles the basic functions
of the operating system:  memory allocation, process allocation, device
input and output, etc.

--=-=-=

* Tue Nov 19 2002 Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-1mdk

- compile BOOT kernel for x86_64.
- 2.4.20-q1.
 * 2.4.20-rc2.
 * remove lots (~150 patches) already included in rc2.
 * update ACPI to 20021022.
 * update Andrea patch to 2.4.20-pre11aa1.
 * detect correctly via C3 (and similars) as i586.
 * now patches can also be shell scripts (.sh).
 * use that to rearange ide code.
 * update ov511 to 2.16 driver.
 * urb_t is gone. update 3rdparty usb drivers.
 * include fs.h from userspace should be safe now.
 * xfs 1.2pre3.
 * lots of other small fixes.
- 2.4.20-0.1mdk.

 

Re: [Cooker] xft hack

[scott chevalley]

Thanks,  I'm going to play with this tonight.  I wonder how this affects 
all those neat choices in the new Gnome font dialog.  There are at least 
3 different hinting options there.  

Scott

Han Boetes wrote:

For the people who want to try the latest freetype with the xft hack
from http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~dchest/xfthack/

I have made this package.

 http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/rpms/freetype2-2.1.3-1mdk.src.rpm

Look _much_ better imnsho.



//Han
 

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] qt3-3.1.0-2mdk

[scott chevalley]

Any idea of when qt3 will be rebuilt to re-enable AA in KDE?

Just wondering...

Scott

Laurent MONTEL wrote:


--=-=-=
Name: qt3  Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 3.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 2mdk  Build Date: Wed Nov 13 20:00:06 2002
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : System/Libraries  Source RPM: (none)
Size: 13418564 License: GPL and QPL
Packager: Mandrake Linux KDE Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.troll.no/
Summary : Qt3 - Sources
Description :
Qt is a complete and well-designed multi-platform object-oriented framework for
developing graphical user interface (GUI) applications using C++. Qt has
seamless integration with OpenGL/Mesa 3D libraries.

Qt is free for development of free software on the X Window System. It includes
the complete source code for the X version and makefiles for Linux, Solaris,
SunOS, FreeBSD, OSF/1, Irix, BSD/OS, NetBSD, SCO, HP-UX and AIX. This edition
of Qt may be modified and distributed under the terms found in the LICENSE.QPL
file.

Qt also supports Windows 95 and NT, with native look and feel. Code developed
for the X version of Qt can be recompiled and run using the Windows 95/NT
version of Qt, and vice versa.

Qt is currently used in hundreds of software development projects world wide,
including the K Desktop Environment (see http://www.kde.org). For more
examples, see http://www.trolltech.com/qtprogs.html.

Qt has excellent documentation: around 750 pages of postscript and fully
cross-referenced online html documentation. It is available on the web:
http://doc.trolltech.com/

Qt is easy to learn, with consistent naming across all the classes and a
14-chapter on-line tutorial with links into the rest of the documentation.
A number of 3rd-party books are also available.

Qt dramatically cuts down on development time and complexity in writing
user interface software for the X Window System. It allows the programmer
to focus directly on the programming task, and not mess around with
low-level Motif/X11 code.

Qt is fully object-oriented. All widgets and dialogs are C++ objects,
and, using inheritance, creation of new widgets is easy and natural.

Qt's revolutionary signal/slot mechanism provides true component
programming. Reusable components can work together without any knowledge
of each other, and in a type-safe way.

Qt has a very fast paint engine, in some cases ten times faster than other
toolkits. The X version is based directly on Xlib and uses neither
Motif nor X Intrinsics.

Qt is available under two different licenses:
 - The Qt Professional Edition License, for developing fully commercial
   software: see http://www.trolltech.com/pricing.html
 - The Q Public License (QPL), for developing free software (X Window System
   only).

--=-=-=

* Wed Nov 13 2002 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3.1.0-2mdk

- Add patch9 : Fix qwidget bug : "It fixes child windows being hidden randomly."

 

Re: [Cooker] Me Too: Lost AA

[R. Scott Chevalley]

yes, libqt3 is not linked to any of the libXft.so versions.  I'm using 
the xft2 patched b2.4 and it's working okay.  I don't have the patience 
to recompile the new rpms with the patch.. I'm just hoping it's fixed 
soon... :)

Scott

Lonnie Borntreger wrote:

Noticed some postings from others related to this.

Upgraded libqt3 to 3.1.0-2mdk and lost all anti-aliasing.  Switched back
to 3.1.0-0.beta2.4mdk and it works again.

TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger



 

Re: [Cooker] QT AA font's b0rken

[scott chevalley]

I'm doing that now... hasn't finished yet, I don't think...

Scott

Brian Smith wrote:


Same thing here. ldd shows that /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so is not 
linked to libXft.
I just downloaded the source from trolltech and rebuilt with the 
patches I posted a week or so ago, and it seems to be working correctly.

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:37:51 -0500
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Seems that AA font's don't work now with QT after update to final.

Re: [Cooker] QT AA font's b0rken

[scott chevalley]

Jason Straight wrote:


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Seems that AA font's don't work now with QT after update to final.

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I don't see is being linked against libXft2.so or libXft.so, which I 
think would break AA in QT.

[root@avalon-xp lib]# ldd libqt-mt.so.3.1.0
   libmng.so.1 => /usr/lib/libmng.so.1 (0x4070a000)
   libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40752000)
   libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x40773000)
   libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x40799000)
   libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 (0x407a8000)
   libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x407bc000)
   libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x407e1000)
   libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x407f8000)
   libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40801000)
   libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40818000)
   libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4081b000)
   libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4082b000)
   libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x408f6000)
   libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x408fc000)
   libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x40927000)
   libm.so.6 => /lib/i686/libm.so.6 (0x409ec000)
   libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x40a0f000)
   libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x40a17000)
   liblcms.so.1 => /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 (0x40b37000)
   libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40b57000)
   libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x40bb)
   libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x40c0)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)

hope this helps...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Obtained Star Office from Mandrake, whear is the advertizedWord Perfect filter?

[scott chevalley]

Philip Webb wrote:


02 Brent Hasty wrote:
 

The office network I manage has several useres who were word perfect users, 
and have a large resource of *.wpd documents.  We researched into staroffice 
and what we found is that it advertized being able to import *.wpd files, 
ecclent.  We then placed our order for mdk 9 for upgrade purposes and because 
it had star office bundled with it.
Well I got the staroffice rpms installed and tried opening a wordperfect 
document, well nothing :-(
I then checked the documentation, and tried a custom install for the purpose 
of selecting the filters I wanted installed.  Unfortunatly it seems the 
advertized *.wpd filter was not included.
   


just a workaround: can't you copy .wpd -> .doc -> .sxw ?

 

just a thought... current version of Abiword read .wpd files.  I'm not 
sure how good it does, but it does support it.  perhaps, at the very 
least, open them in Abiword and save them out at RTF to open in star 
office... just a thought...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] libqt3 + fontconfig?

[scott chevalley]

I don't know if the mandrake packaged version does, but I read on 
Trolltechs website that QT 3.1 is supposed to support XFT2 and 
fontconfig.  I haven't tried it yet, but I plan on it tonight or 
tomorrow...

I don't know if there are any cool font setting boxes like Redhat has in 
KDE or even the current MDK release of Gnome.

Scott


gabor wrote:

hi,


will libqt3 use xft/fontconfig?

now that gnome (gtk2 actually ) is using it ( many-many thanks to
fcrozat + redhat80 :-), is libqt3 going to use it too?

and if yes, in the near future?

thanks,
gabor
 

Re: [Cooker] Upgrade from KDE 3.0.4 to KDE 3.1rc1

[scott chevalley]

did you update libqt3 to 3.1-beta?  

Scott

Sebastien PAOLACCI wrote:

Didn't have any problems to upgrade packages, but when I want to try graphic mode : 

ksplash: relocation error: /usr/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: static_QUType_varptr
kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkdefx.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN18QMetaObjectCleanUpC1EPKcPFP11QMetaObjectvE
/usr/bin/startkde: line 207: xmessage: command not found
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
ksmserver: relocation error: /usr/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: static_QUType_varptr
/usr/bin/startkde: line 216: xmessage: command not found
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
Error: Can't contact kdeinit!
kde-config: relocation error: /usr/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: static_QUType_varptr

Here are my KDE packages (on a standard LM9.0 + upgrade to KDE 3.0.4 installation).

paolacci_s@laptop-seb /]$ rpm -qa | grep kde
kdeutils-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdemultimedia-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdeadmin-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdelibs-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdepim-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdeedu-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdegames-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdesdk-devel-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk
kdenetwork-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdemultimedia-aktion-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdetoys-devel-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdegraphics-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdebase-devel-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdepim-devel-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kde-i18n-fr-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdegames-devel-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdegraphics-devel-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdenetwork-devel-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdeartwork-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdelibs-devel-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdetoys-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdebase-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdemultimedia-devel-3.1-0.rc1.2mdk
kdeutils-devel-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk
kdesdk-3.1-0.beta2.3mdk
kdevelop-2.1.3-7mdk
kdeaddons-3.1-0.rc1.1mdk


Can I send something else to help you ?

Sebastien.


 

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] freetype2-2.1.2-1mdk

[scott chevalley]

Does this include that nifty patch to make the fonts look better thats 
been circulating around lately?

Just curious.  

Scott

Frederic Crozat wrote:

--=-=-=
Name: freetype2Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.1.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Tue Oct 29 13:44:56 2002
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: hp6.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : System/Libraries  Source RPM: (none)
Size: 954248   License: FreeType License/GPL
Packager: Mandrake Linux Team 
URL : http://www.freetype.org/
Summary : A free and portable TrueType font rendering engine
Description :
The FreeType2 engine is a free and portable TrueType font rendering engine.
It has been developed to provide TT support to a great variety of
platforms and environments. Note that FreeType2 is a library, not a
stand-alone application, though some utility applications are included

--=-=-=

* Tue Oct 29 2002 Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.1.2-1mdk

- Release 2.1.2
- configure macro is back
- Patch1 (Rawhide): fix bug in PS hinter
- Patch2 (Rawhide): Support Type1 BlueFuzz value
- Patch3 (Rawhide): Another PS hinter bug fix (rawhide)
- Patch4 (CVS): fix outline transformation
- Patch5 (CVS): Backport autohinter improvements 
- Patch6 (Anthony Fok): prevent crash with broken TT fonts
- Patch7 (Rawhide): fix bug with PCF metrics
- Update patch0

 

Re: [Cooker] Re: Xft hack

[scott chevalley]

I thought that Xft2 depends on freetype2 as well, so using the hack 
should generate better fonts under xft2 as well.  

Just a thought.  Xft2 and Fontconfig are, from what I understand, just 
config and access interfaces into the freetype2 font renderer for X, 
they don't actually perform any rendering themselves.

Scott

Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 04:20, Han Boetes wrote:

 

actually what's the status of that hack? will it get included into the
standard freetype2 rpm?
 

It's not up to me to decide that. I am not a mandrake  employee,  but  I
like the patch very much. I think that the patch will make it  into  the
freetype source code sooner or later. I mean it is  free  code  and  the
result are really much better than anything I have seen before.

freetype-2.1.2 is less stable than suggested on  the  freetype  homepage
but 2.1.3 looks good.

But do test the rpms on my homepage so you can see for yourself and look
if you can find any bugs.
   


Well, remember Cooker will go to Xft2 when F. Crozat gets back from
holiday. So the hack may not apply any more.
 

Re: [Cooker] Re: Xft hack

[scott chevalley]

I just tried IE5.5 under Crossover office using the system freetype libs 
with the hack and had no problems.  At least, nothing happened just by 
going to MSN.  The font rendering is way better, though...

Scott

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 

Han, can you make your pango rpm(s) available with your xft_hack rpms?

Where can I get them?
   


In addition, wine crashes when I try to run it with this 
freetype2. Haven't tried a recompiled version yet.

Danny



 

Re: [Cooker] k3b problems

[R. Scott Chevalley]

I haven't tried the latest k3b from contribs, but previously I would get 
that error if the user I'm logged in as doesn't belong to the proper 
groups (cdwriter on my box) to access the cd-burner.

Use userdrake to add the cdwriter group to your id and then relogin and 
it should work.

Scott

Florent BERANGER wrote:

>  Hello, 
> 
>k3b in contribs seem to have 2 bugs : 
>- I've tested it on 2 different machines and on both, k3b doesn't find devices 
>in user mode (on copy a CD screen, for exemple). 
>There is no problem with k3bsetup, the devices are detected (at first time and 
>when I return on it). 
> 
>- Just hit the "Write an iso" entry in "tools" menu and you have a crash. 
> 
>Thanks to take a look to it, 
> 
>  Florent 
>
>
>  
>

[Cooker] qt3 and Xft2/fontconfig...

[scott chevalley]

Any plans on applying the patch to allow qt to use fontconfig and XFT2? 
 With the news that Gnomes getting updated to use it, I was just curious 
about that.  I may try and apply the patch to the src.rpm and see what 
happens...

Thanks,
Scott

[Cooker] Future Installer Feature Request...

[scott chevalley]

Hi,

I was just wondering if it may be in the works to move the installer to 
GTK2 so it can make use of AA fonts.  I think it would make the 
installer look quite a bit nicer, although I know that not everyone 
likes AA fonts.

Just a thought...

Scott

Re: [Cooker] Fixing Mozilla's fonts

[scott chevalley]

Also, just a note but I've found that Mozilla tends to look really bad 
using the default freetype2 library because the bytecode interpreter is 
off, but if you enable it by building the plf version or using the 
Texstar version, AA fonts look really nice in Mozilla.  

Beware of all the patent junk as well...  :)

Just my .02 worth

Scott


Target wrote:

> Yes, those lines should do the trick.
>
> I do agree that AA is highly overrated. At not-too-high resolution 
> (like anything over 1024x768) and/or with small fonts, the end result 
> is "chunky" glyphs that look godawful. In fact the default fonts in 
> Mozilla actually look nice with AA disabled, but you wouldn't know it 
> having seen them antialiased.
>
> The first thing I do after any install is to configure AA in all 
> window managers and apps to activate only on large fonts, or disable 
> it completely if I cannot configure it like so. My eyes are damaged 
> enough as it is.
>
> At 05:58 PM 10/4/02 +, you wrote:
>
>> I came upon a review of Dolphin at
>> http://www.ratedpc.com/review.asp?id=63&page=2 and it tells how to 
>> fix the fonts
>> in Mozilla and Galeon. It says:
>>
>> "In all this, I realized that Galeon and Mozilla have extremely ugly 
>> and blurry
>> (so called anti-aliased) fonts. So I needed to get rid of those. 
>> Another search
>> on Google revealed that I need to modify the
>> /usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/defaults/pref/unix.js lines 217-239 as follows:"
>>
>> pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true);
>> pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6");
>> // if libfreetype was built without hinting compiled in
>> // it is best to leave hinting off
>> pref("font.FreeType2.autohinted", false);
>> pref("font.FreeType2.unhinted", false);
>> // below a certian pixel size anti-aliased fonts produce poor results
>> pref("font.antialias.min", 16);
>> pref("font.embedded_bitmaps.max", 100);
>> pref("font.scale.tt_bitmap.dark_text.min", 64);
>> pref("font.scale.tt_bitmap.dark_text.gain", "0.8");
>>
>> Will this work?  I think it's strange that this clip that I'm 
>> supposed to insert
>> is less than the 22 lines of 217-239.  I would really like to see 
>> Mozilla and
>> Galeon look decent, though.
>>
>> I'm not subscribed to cooker, so please cc any replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mike
>
>
>

Re: [Cooker] 9.0 install - no hdlist2.cz- Do these disks work ornot?

[Scott Chevalley]

To satisfy my curiousity I checked both ftp.uninett.no and ftp.sunet.se, 
which is the mirror I prefer.  You are correct that ftp.uninett.no has 
not been modified, but ftp.sunet.se has been.  

The most like situation is that there is some lag in the uninett.no 
mirror being updated.  I've found a lot of variation in the amount of 
time it takes various mirrors to resync.

 From what I remember reading earlier on the list, the ISO images never 
had the issue. I just looked at the ISO images I downloaded yesterday 
and they indeed do not have Contribs listed in the base/hdlists file, 
which means the CD's are fine.

Just my .02 worth

Scott

Ron Stodden wrote:

> Ben Reser wrote:
>
>> Actually now that I think about it.  I probably have it because I copied
>> my cooker tree over there to speed up 9.0 downloading...
>
>
> So did I, but my rsync has --delete, so if it did not arrive here, 
> then it was not on the ftp.uninett.no server, and if in my cooker tree 
> would have been deleted.
>

Re: [Cooker] RC3: ESD produces digital noise

[Scott Chevalley]

Ben Reser wrote:

>On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 11:00:15AM -0400, Scott Chevalley wrote:
>  
>
>>I had the same problem on RC2 and i finally disabled the VIA soundcard 
>>and put in a Soundblaster 128PCI card, which has worked fine since.  I 
>>tried both ALSA and OSS and I could not get either to work on the 
>>VIA8233 sound card.
>>
>>
>
>THe 8233 works just fine.  The mixer sets default to muted.  So you have
>to turn the volume up before you can hear any sound though.
>
>  
>
Actually I was getting garbled noise from ESD enable apps with the 
Via8233.  As has been mentioned previously, there isn't an OSS driver 
for it, so ALSA is the only way to go.  I tried a couple of different 
kernels with the same problem.  I did not try compiling my own kernel... 
 It annoyed me at the time because I wanted to use Quicktime through 
Crossover  to watch the new Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets 
Trailer.  

With the sb128pci it works fine.  Luckily it was a soundcard I had 
laying around so it didn't cost me anything...

I do think it used to work, though, but I'm not sure when it stopped 
sometime between B2 and RC2.

Scott

Re: [Cooker] RC3: ESD produces digital noise

[Scott Chevalley]

Frederic Crozat wrote:

>Le Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:40:47 +, Ben Reser a ecrit :
>
>  
>
>>On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 10:13:47PM +0100, Dean Jenkins wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My point is that the Gnome ESD sound system does not work correctly for
>>>me in 9.0 RC3.
>>>
>>>Simply running esd from the command line produces digital noise which I
>>>guess is the ESD start tune. It suggests a timming problem.
>>>
>>>ESD works fine for me in MDK 8.2 on the same hardware using ALSA
>>>drivers.
>>>  
>>>
>>I have the same issue on a VIA8233.  I think it's an esd bug...  I work
>>around it via the method that I explained earlier.
>>
>>
>
>My bet would be a bug in VIA8233 sound driver.. There is absolutely NO
>code for one specific soundcard in esd.. Try switching to OSS (or to ALSA)
>to see if bug is still here..
>
>  
>
I had the same problem on RC2 and i finally disabled the VIA soundcard 
and put in a Soundblaster 128PCI card, which has worked fine since.  I 
tried both ALSA and OSS and I could not get either to work on the 
VIA8233 sound card.

Just my .02cents

Scott

[Cooker] RPM says packages are not installed and they are...

[Scott Chevalley]

I don't know if this is something to do with cooker or just my computer, 
but about a week or so ago I installed RC2 (dl'ing RC3 now) , and it is 
working okay for the most part, but last night I went into rpmdrake to 
update to the latest cooker and looking under the Addable section and 
found a lot of applications that rpmdrake were saying could be 
installed, but they WERE installed.  

I did

# rpm --verify --all

and received screens of missing depends, so much so that the system 
would not work if those packages were not installed.  

So, I've rebuilt the rpm database using the afore mentioned rm -f 
/var/lib/rpm/__* && rpm --rebuilddb to no avail.  Is there any way to 
rebuild the rpm db from installed software or am I looking at just doing 
a full install of RC3?

Thanks,
Scott

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.19.9mdk-1-1mdk

[Scott Chevalley]

The only problem I've noticed, but I'm not sure it kernel related, is in 
burning CD's.  I tried to burn RC2 disks last night using the 2.4.19-9 
kernel and I kept getting device sense errors from cdrecord.  I rebooted 
into 2.4.19-8 and was able to successfully burn the cd's with no errors.

I still get an error when I try to blank an CD-RW, though... probably 
something different...

Scott

J.P. Pasnak wrote:

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>On September 7, 2002 01:19 am, Juan Quintela wrote:
>  
>
>>--=-=-=
>>Name: kernel-2.4.19.9mdk   Relocations: (not
>>relocateable) Version : 1 Vendor:
>>MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk  Build Date:
>>
>>
>
>Is anyone else having problems with kernel-2.4.19.9mdk?   I seem to get 
>random lockups after about an hour of use.   The system completely 
>freezes, with no log entries whatsoever.   Switching back to 
>2.4.19.8mdk, and all is fine.
>
>AMD 1Ghz, Asus MB - VIA chipset, NVidia GeForce2, SB Live Value
>
>- -- 
>Live fast, die young,
>you're sucking up my bandwidth.
>- --
>J.P. Pasnak, CD
>CCNA
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca
>
> Kernel version: 2.4.19-8mdk
>Current Linux uptime: 14 hours 33 minutes.
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Re: [Cooker] One more recent Cooker and one more recent DrakX problem

[Scott Chevalley]

drakxservices works in console mode as well as in X.

Scott

On Thursday 01 August 2002 12:29 pm, David Walser wrote:
> --- Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > solution: use drakxservices
>
> drak*x*services?  No good.  ntsysv is a newt-based
> console tool.  It's absolutely wonderful.  No reason
> to stop supporting it now.
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
> http://health.yahoo.com

Re: CDROM Install (RE: [Cooker] Install Exited Abnormally)

[R. Scott Chevalley]

I also have been having a problem with the 9.0 beta iso images.  I've 
burned about 5 copies of it and none of them will install.  It will get 
to the Loading program box, the bar graph will go 60% across and then 
I'll get an error about not being able to execute /usr/bin/runinstall2.  

I was able to get cooker install from a local hard drive mirror copy, 
but not from cd.  I think it may be the DMA settings for the IDE 
controller because I can get passed that point using the 2.2 kernel, but 
it doesn't recognize reiserfs partitions.  I have not found a way of 
disabling DMA on the CDROM drive yet... hdc=nodma or ide1=nodma doesn't 
work.

Scott


Andy Neillans wrote:

>Well, I now have the ISO burnt, but now I get:
>
>I can't acess a Mandrake Linux Installation disc in your CDROM drive
>(). Retry?
>
>|Yes| |No| |Back|
>
>Console:
> Mounting /dev/hdc on /tmp/image as type iso9660
> have to insmod isofs
>succeeded isofs
> Mount failed: Device or resource busy
>
>Andy
>
>(Might appear twice - problems with internal mail server)
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Neillans
>>Sent: 29 July 2002 20:18
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [Cooker] Install Exited Abnormally
>>
>>
>>Installing with network.img
>>Network adapter was autodetected correctly.
>>Specified DHCP
>>Supplied host and domain name.
>>
>>Install Exited Abnormally
>>Received Signal 11
>>Sending Termination Signals
>>
>>looking at the console results, the dhcp was performed, and an ip
>>obtained.
>>Last line was:
>>
>>configuring device eth0 ip: 192.168.44.129 nm: 255.255.255.0 nw:
>>192.168.44.0 bc: 192.168.44.255
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [Cooker] Sad state of pre-releasing to consumers

[scott . chevalley]

I've been following this thread for a little while and find that the true
saving grace in the
whole thing is MandrakeUpdate.  Since all the ISO mirror's are full I was
able to use the
update program to download all the newer rpm's from the final 7.2 archive
and install
them.  I assume that a person purchasing a boxed version from Walmart will
be able to
do the same.  If anyone has noticed, Redhat 7.0 has had quite a few
updates posted
around the Linux online community.  Unfortunately, to the best of my
knowledge they
require money in order to use the Redhat update utility.

Mandrake allows all users to use their update utility regardless of the
method of getting
Linux-Mandrake, be it in a store or off the web.

Mandrake is still the distribution that I recommend the most.

Scott Chevalley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>
> Jason Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > No, that's totally missing the point. That's what we do with Microsoft
> > and why we chose linux in the first place. I like Mandrake, and I've
> > used about every computer OS and distro ever made and Mandrake 7.2
gives
> > me more of what I ever wanted than anything I have ever used, and
> > consumers trying to voice opinion's to help preserve the goodness that
> > is Mandrake-Linux shouldn't be told Fuck it. If I didn't care what
>
> I told you that because I'm very angry that everyone on this list and on
> the forum keep saying that we lied, that we are selling the rc1 which is
> WORSE than final which is available for free.
>
> Our point is that, OKAY the download edition is overally better than the
> retail version.. BECAUSE WE HAD TIME TO PUT IN THE 2.0 OF KDE2.
>
> Unfortunately we COULD NOT do that for retail version in time. Who do
you
> want to blame? Us? kde2 team?..
>
> Real naming scheme is: retail version is final 7.2 ; download version is
> final 7.2 with updates such as kde 2.0 final.
>
> The retail version, that was once put on the ftp sites for free as rc1,
is
> a GOOD version, and it's 99% close to the one that you find now for free
> as Download Edition of 7.2. Its name is now final 7.2, because Release
> Candidates are "candidates to become the official release". Nothing more
> nothing less!!
>
> In the European version, because it's a bit more expensive due to phone
> support included, we even include a free update for kde2 final, sent on
> CD's to every customers who will have bought the retail version. In the
US
> unfortunately the product priced $25 is too cheap to permit that, so we
> have to hope that the free downloads from MandrakeUpdate will please
> customers.
>
> [...]
>
> > I realize you have deadlines to meet and people to pay - like I said
in
> > my other post I used to be a manager of Wal-Mart, so I know when it
> > comes to running a business that in reality the $ does come first. If
> > you have no $'s you have no people, and if you have no people you have
> > no product to get $'s.
>
> But not to the point to release a bad product and lie to the customers.
>
> > But when it comes to the products image being jeopardized I hope you
> > guys made the right decision. Hopefully there won't be a big stink
about
>
> A point to clear: not MY nor developpers' decision here. I'm just taking
> time here to put up some explanations, because I'm feeling really sad
that
> you all guys on this list begin to consider us as lyers and bad
> customers-related behaviour company..
>
> > the fact that the shelf version that people fork out $25 for isn't as
> > good as the version they can dl for free. Next time around you might
>
> I heard that this has been the case for Redhat for long. In real world,
> the version on the net can be updated in 5 seconds, the one on the
shelves
> in 6 months if you consider WalMart.
>
> So how could the retail version be newer/better? That's simply
impossible,
> and our best customer support is to put the final kde2 version on the
> download edition; think about it: we could have put the kde-1.99 in the
> download edition to prevent from such comparisons with the retail
version.
> We simply could't provide such a bad service to our users, just because
> time schedule is missing a couple of weeks! It was possible to put
kde-2.0
> final in 7.2 on the web so we put the update in the version.
>
> Only solution to have boxes in time was to put the 1.99 which IS a good
> version, and you have the updates.. I can't explain better..
>
> > In the future maybe a different versioning system would help alleviate
this
> > also. 7.00 might be on the shelf at W