Re: [Cooker] A Few Recomendations...

2000-12-08 Thread Ben Reser

On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:42:20AM -0500, David Walluck wrote:
> In my /var/log directory I have many files with very long names like
> mail.log.1.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz. It seems like the logrotate script has
> been broken forever. Either it will create those files. Or it will spit
> you out a mail saying that the log doesn't exist like you said. Now this
> bug has existed at least since RedHat 5.0. Maybe someday they will fix it.

I know this is a few days late but I've been busy doing other things.
Here's the fix for your problem:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/MDKA-2000-009-1.php3?dis=7.1

To cleanup the old entries just do:
find /var/log/mail 'mail.*.?.gz.?.gz' -exec rm {} \;
find /var/log/news 'news.*.?.gz.?.gz' -exec rm {} \;

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you treat everything like a nail.




Re: [Cooker] A Few Recomendations...

2000-12-04 Thread Alan Olsen

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, David Walluck wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Alan Olsen wrote:
> 
> > 1) When doing an install (say, because the upgrade corrupted the RPM
> > database), do *NOT* say "Please wait while formatting disks" when the user
> > has specifically told the program not to format any disks!  Some sysadmin
> > with a weak heart and a fragile system is going to keel-over dead because
> > of that message one of these days...  (Sure as hell scared a few years off
> > of my life!)
> 
> I have been unable to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1 system to 7.2 in part
> because of this message. The first time I saw it I almost cried, but then
> I saw no disk activity and felt that it was safe. Yet, even after that,
> there is no "Upgrade" option. Also, it still tried to pick a different
> partition scheme, insisting on formating a swap partition. I have it on
> CD, so a fixed installation will not help. How do I get the install to NOT
> FORMAT MY DISK AND KEEP THE CURRENT PARTITION SCHEME AND DO AN UPGRADE. I
> am sorry to capitalize that, but come on. It seems that upgrading is
> impossible in 7.2. And why do the reviews never catch these big errors?

You bought the "Complete" package, didn't you? ]:>

There is an upgrade in the "Powerpack" version, but I have had great
problems with it. I am investigating them now.

> > 2) If you have an application that creates a log file (say, for example
> > "hylafax"), please have the install "touch" the file location so that the
> > log rotation program does not keep spitting out warning messages about
> > non-existant log files.  (Or maybe set the log rotater to actually create
> > the file if it does not find it!)
> 
> In my /var/log directory I have many files with very long names like
> mail.log.1.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz. It seems like the logrotate script has
> been broken forever. Either it will create those files. Or it will spit
> you out a mail saying that the log doesn't exist like you said. Now this
> bug has existed at least since RedHat 5.0. Maybe someday they will fix it.

Why wait for Redhat?

> > 3) Documentation as to what the various security levels do (in detail)
> > available from the starting web page.
> 
> I think it is there. Maybe not on the starting webpage (what is that?) but
> it's definately explained in detail in the user's guide. I have seen
> reviews complain about Mandrake's documentation, either being
> non-existant, or out-of-date. I think this is in part because they are
> French and their English is not up to par sometimes and is hard to read,
> mais mon francais n'est pas parfait either. That said, I think the
> documentation for this version was one of the things they did right.

It is quite good, but there are always things to improve.

I expect there will be more changes for the better since Jay and Zot were
hired.  I will find out when Zot comes back to this part of the world...

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Re: [Cooker] A Few Recomendations...

2000-12-04 Thread David Walluck

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Alan Olsen wrote:

> 1) When doing an install (say, because the upgrade corrupted the RPM
> database), do *NOT* say "Please wait while formatting disks" when the user
> has specifically told the program not to format any disks!  Some sysadmin
> with a weak heart and a fragile system is going to keel-over dead because
> of that message one of these days...  (Sure as hell scared a few years off
> of my life!)

I have been unable to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1 system to 7.2 in part
because of this message. The first time I saw it I almost cried, but then
I saw no disk activity and felt that it was safe. Yet, even after that,
there is no "Upgrade" option. Also, it still tried to pick a different
partition scheme, insisting on formating a swap partition. I have it on
CD, so a fixed installation will not help. How do I get the install to NOT
FORMAT MY DISK AND KEEP THE CURRENT PARTITION SCHEME AND DO AN UPGRADE. I
am sorry to capitalize that, but come on. It seems that upgrading is
impossible in 7.2. And why do the reviews never catch these big errors?

> 
> 2) If you have an application that creates a log file (say, for example
> "hylafax"), please have the install "touch" the file location so that the
> log rotation program does not keep spitting out warning messages about
> non-existant log files.  (Or maybe set the log rotater to actually create
> the file if it does not find it!)

In my /var/log directory I have many files with very long names like
mail.log.1.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz. It seems like the logrotate script has
been broken forever. Either it will create those files. Or it will spit
you out a mail saying that the log doesn't exist like you said. Now this
bug has existed at least since RedHat 5.0. Maybe someday they will fix it.

> 3) Documentation as to what the various security levels do (in detail)
> available from the starting web page.

I think it is there. Maybe not on the starting webpage (what is that?) but
it's definately explained in detail in the user's guide. I have seen
reviews complain about Mandrake's documentation, either being
non-existant, or out-of-date. I think this is in part because they are
French and their English is not up to par sometimes and is hard to read,
mais mon francais n'est pas parfait either. That said, I think the
documentation for this version was one of the things they did right.

-- 
Sincerely,

David Walluck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





[Cooker] A Few Recomendations...

2000-12-04 Thread Alan Olsen

I have not checked to see if these fixes have been made in the Cooker
version.  I am entering them in while they are still fresh in my mind.

1) When doing an install (say, because the upgrade corrupted the RPM
database), do *NOT* say "Please wait while formatting disks" when the user
has specifically told the program not to format any disks!  Some sysadmin
with a weak heart and a fragile system is going to keel-over dead because
of that message one of these days...  (Sure as hell scared a few years off
of my life!)

2) If you have an application that creates a log file (say, for example
"hylafax"), please have the install "touch" the file location so that the
log rotation program does not keep spitting out warning messages about
non-existant log files.  (Or maybe set the log rotater to actually create
the file if it does not find it!)

3) Documentation as to what the various security levels do (in detail)
available from the starting web page.

4) Put switchdesk back in the menues.

5) Give the (insecure) default user a way to change from KDE back to
Gnome. (That request is from my 14 year-old daughter.)

6) Put a big warning label on the "Complete" version that they will not be
able to select individual packages.  So they will not come after your
children in the night.)

Sorry if I sound snippy.  I am trying to fix a big mess the 7.2 upgrade
did to my main production machine.

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