Re: [Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection
--- Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok, let's explain. > someone complained that his sound card wasn't > detected. > the fact is that drakx needs list_module.pm to list > all kernel modules > from the pcitable. > but some of the newly added modules were missing > from list_modules.pm, > hance the "not detected" sound card. > i added them in cvs; with the drakx uploaded by > pixel yesterday, this > should install smoothly. Right, I figured out that much. > then you came and you write stupids statements from > something you > obviously haven't read the source; instead of > reading the source, you > cry that i force people to use alsa instead of alsa. What else am I supposed to read? I read the attached file. It seemed to list sound cards and then modules to use for those cards. > i may have been crude but i dislike what we called > in french "melanger > les tomates et les salades". Babelfish has no idea what you just said :o) > what the link between a bug report and me forcing > you do to something ? Well like you said, the file you pasted was from CVS of the real thing. > what the links between list_modules.pm that must > list all modules used > in drakx's pcitable and the "secret plan" to force > people to use alsa ? Sorry, I may have misinterpreted what the source was saying. > but i never force anybody to use X or Y ! Ok, I probably misinterpreted it. I don't mean to be overly critical of you or piss you off or anything, and I'm sorry if I come off that way :o( __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection
David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It looks like this breaks your explanation here. > > > You said only cards that aren't supported by OSS or the OSS > > > module has problems use ALSA, but it looks like from this file > > > here, you're trying to use ALSA for cards for which that isn't > > > the case, for example the es1370/es1371 and others. > > > > what do you smoke ? > > No, seriously Thierry, explain yourself. ok, let's explain. someone complained that his sound card wasn't detected. the fact is that drakx needs list_module.pm to list all kernel modules from the pcitable. but some of the newly added modules were missing from list_modules.pm, hance the "not detected" sound card. i added them in cvs; with the drakx uploaded by pixel yesterday, this should install smoothly. then you came and you write stupids statements from something you obviously haven't read the source; instead of reading the source, you cry that i force people to use alsa instead of alsa. i may have been crude but i dislike what we called in french "melanger les tomates et les salades". what the link between a bug report and me forcing you do to something ? > I've been using the OSS modules with these cards for 3.5 years, no > problems ever, and the cards are fully supported. ALSA has problems > (mixer problems, having to load 50 modules just for freakin' sound). what the links between list_modules.pm that must list all modules used in drakx's pcitable and the "secret plan" to force people to use alsa ? > I know you like ALSA, but you're being overzealous with your support > here. Please save it for later. Don't force it on people it's not > going to benefit. but i never force anybody to use X or Y !
Re: [Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection
On Sunday 18 Aug 2002 21:03, David Walser wrote: > --- Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It looks like this breaks your explanation here. > > > > You said only > > > > > cards that aren't supported by OSS or the OSS > > > > module has problems > > > > > use ALSA, but it looks like from this file here, > > > > you're trying to > > > > > use ALSA for cards for which that isn't the case, > > > > for example the > > > > > es1370/es1371 and others. > > > > what do you smoke ? > > No, seriously Thierry, explain yourself. I've been > using the OSS modules with these cards for 3.5 years, > no problems ever, and the cards are fully supported. > ALSA has problems (mixer problems, having to load 50 > modules just for freakin' sound). > > I know you like ALSA, but you're being overzealous > with your support here. Please save it for later. > Don't force it on people it's not going to benefit. > I'll just chip in here with my two pence. I use es1371 with OSS with no problems. I have to load it with option "joystick=1" to get my joystick working. With the ALSA drivers I have no joystick, so I get annoyed when ALSA is chosen for me too. -- Gentoo Linux (portage-2.0.27). KDE: 3.0.2 Qt: 3.0.5 gcc (GCC) 3.2 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ 513MB. Kernel: 2.4.19-win4lin Linux user #275590 (http://counter.li.org/). up 8:19. #=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=#
Re: [Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection
--- Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It looks like this breaks your explanation here. > You said only > > cards that aren't supported by OSS or the OSS > module has problems > > use ALSA, but it looks like from this file here, > you're trying to > > use ALSA for cards for which that isn't the case, > for example the > > es1370/es1371 and others. > > what do you smoke ? No, seriously Thierry, explain yourself. I've been using the OSS modules with these cards for 3.5 years, no problems ever, and the cards are fully supported. ALSA has problems (mixer problems, having to load 50 modules just for freakin' sound). I know you like ALSA, but you're being overzealous with your support here. Please save it for later. Don't force it on people it's not going to benefit. __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection
David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It looks like this breaks your explanation here. You said only > cards that aren't supported by OSS or the OSS module has problems > use ALSA, but it looks like from this file here, you're trying to > use ALSA for cards for which that isn't the case, for example the > es1370/es1371 and others. what do you smoke ?
Re: [Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection
It looks like this breaks your explanation here. You said only cards that aren't supported by OSS or the OSS module has problems use ALSA, but it looks like from this file here, you're trying to use ALSA for cards for which that isn't the case, for example the es1370/es1371 and others. --- Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can you overwrite > Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/list_modules.pm > with the > following file: > > package list_modules; > > use MDK::Common; > > our @ISA = qw(Exporter); > our @EXPORT = qw(load_dependencies > dependencies_closure category2modules > module2category sub_categories); > > # the categories have 2 purposes > # - choosing modules to include on stage1's (cf > update_kernel and > mdk-stage1/pci-resource/update-pci-ids.pl) > # - performing a load_category or probe_category > (modules.pm and many files in perl-install) > > our %l = ( > > > network => > { > main => [ > if_(arch() =~ /ppc/, qw(mace bmac gmac)), > if_(arch() =~ /^sparc/, qw(myri_sbus sunbmac > sunhme sunqe)), > if_(arch() !~ /alpha/ && arch() !~ /sparc/, > qw(3c501 3c503 3c505 3c507 3c509 3c515), # > 3c90x > qw(82596 abyss ac3200 acenic > aironet4500_card at1700 atp com20020-pci), > qw(cs89x0 de600 de620), > qw(defxx orinoco_plx), # most unused > qw(depca dgrs dmfe e100 e1000 e2100 eepro > eepro100 eexpress epic100 eth16i), > qw(ewrk3 hamachi hp hp-plus hp100 ibmtr), > qw(lance natsemi ne ne2k-pci ni5010 ni52 > ni65 olympic pcnet32 plip rcpci), #old_tulip > qw(sb1000 sis900 sk98lin smc-ultra smc9194 > starfire tlan tmspci tulip via-rhine), #sktr > qw(wd winbond-840 yellowfin ns83820), > > qw(iph5526), #- fibre channel > ), > qw(3c59x 8139too sundance dl2k), #rtl8139 > ], > raw => [ > qw(8390 mii), > qw(ppp_generic ppp_async slhc > aironet4500_core), > ], > pcmcia => [ > qw(3c574_cs 3c589_cs airo airo_cs > aironet4500_cs axnet_cs fmvj18x_cs), > qw(ibmtr_cs netwave_cs nmclan_cs pcnet_cs > ray_cs smc91c92_cs wavelan_cs wvlan_cs), > qw(xirc2ps_cs xircom_cb xircom_tulip_cb), > ], > usb => [ > qw(pegasus kaweth usbnet catc CDCEther), > ], > isdn => [ > qw(hisax hysdn b1pci t1pci c4), > ], > }, > > > > disk => > { > scsi => [ > if_(arch() =~ /ppc/, qw(mesh mac53c94)), > if_(arch() =~ /^sparc/, qw(qlogicpti)), > if_(arch() !~ /alpha/ && arch() !~ /sparc/, > qw(3w- AM53C974 BusLogic NCR53c406a > a100u2w advansys aha152x aha1542 aha1740), > qw(atp870u dc395x_trm dtc fdomain g_NCR5380 > in2000 initio pci2220i psi240i), > qw(qla1280 qla2x00 qlogicfas qlogicfc), > qw(seagate sim710 sym53c416 t128 tmscsim > u14-34f ultrastor wd7000), > qw(eata eata_pio eata_dma), > ), > '53c7,8xx', > qw(aic7xxx pci2000 qlogicisp sym53c8xx), # > ncr53c8xx > ], > hardware_raid => [ > if_(arch() =~ /^sparc/, qw(pluto)), > if_(arch() !~ /alpha/ && arch() !~ /sparc/, > qw(DAC960 dpt_i2o megaraid aacraid ataraid > cciss cpqarray gdth i2o_block), > qw(qla2200 qla2300 cpqfc), > qw(ips ppa imm), > ), > ], > pcmcia => [ qw(aha152x_cs fdomain_cs nsp_cs > qlogic_cs ide-cs) ], #ide_cs > raw => [ qw(scsi_mod sd_mod) ], > usb => [ qw(usb-storage) ], > cdrom => [ qw(ide-cd cdrom sr_mod) ], > }, > > > > > bus => > { > usb => [ qw(usbcore usb-uhci usb-ohci ehci-hcd > usbkbd keybdev input) ], > pcmcia => [ > if_(arch() !~ /^sparc/, qw(pcmcia_core tcic ds > i82365 yenta_socket)), # cb_enabler > ], >#serial_cs >#ftl_cs 3c575_cb apa1480_cb epic_cb serial_cb > tulip_cb iflash2+_mtd iflash2_mtd >#cb_enabler > }, > > fs => > { > network => [ qw(af_packet nfs lockd sunrpc) ], > cdrom => [ qw(isofs) ], > loopback => [ qw(isofs loop) ], > local => [ > if_(arch() =~ /^i.86/, qw(vfat fat)), > if_(arch() =~ /^ppc/, qw(hfs)), > qw(reiserfs), > ], > various => [ qw(smbfs romfs jbd xfs) ], > > }, > > > > multimedia => > { > sound => [ > if_(arch() =~ /ppc/, qw(dmasound_awacs)), > if_(arch() !~ /^sparc/, > qw(audigy cmpci cs46xx cs4281 emu10k1 es1370 > es1371 esssolo1 i810_audio maestro maestro3), > qw(nm256_audio pas16 rme96xx sonicvibes > trident via82cxxx_audio ymfpci), > qw(snd-als100 snd-als4000 snd-azt2320 > snd-cmi8330 snd-cmipci snd-cs46xx snd-dt0197h), > qw(snd-cs4281 snd-emu10k1), > qw(snd-ens1370 snd-ens1371 snd-es18xx snd-es96 > sn
Re: [Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The installation of Beta3 went quit well except of the sound card detection. > Beta1 and 2 worked very well but not Beta3. I have a Sound Blaster Live Value >Digital 1024 installed. > When I run sndconfig the card is detected but after hitting OK it says "Sound >Blaster Live Value not supported " > Any suggestions? > BKO can you overwrite Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/list_modules.pm with the following file: package list_modules; use MDK::Common; our @ISA = qw(Exporter); our @EXPORT = qw(load_dependencies dependencies_closure category2modules module2category sub_categories); # the categories have 2 purposes # - choosing modules to include on stage1's (cf update_kernel and mdk-stage1/pci-resource/update-pci-ids.pl) # - performing a load_category or probe_category (modules.pm and many files in perl-install) our %l = ( network => { main => [ if_(arch() =~ /ppc/, qw(mace bmac gmac)), if_(arch() =~ /^sparc/, qw(myri_sbus sunbmac sunhme sunqe)), if_(arch() !~ /alpha/ && arch() !~ /sparc/, qw(3c501 3c503 3c505 3c507 3c509 3c515), # 3c90x qw(82596 abyss ac3200 acenic aironet4500_card at1700 atp com20020-pci), qw(cs89x0 de600 de620), qw(defxx orinoco_plx), # most unused qw(depca dgrs dmfe e100 e1000 e2100 eepro eepro100 eexpress epic100 eth16i), qw(ewrk3 hamachi hp hp-plus hp100 ibmtr), qw(lance natsemi ne ne2k-pci ni5010 ni52 ni65 olympic pcnet32 plip rcpci), #old_tulip qw(sb1000 sis900 sk98lin smc-ultra smc9194 starfire tlan tmspci tulip via-rhine), #sktr qw(wd winbond-840 yellowfin ns83820), qw(iph5526), #- fibre channel ), qw(3c59x 8139too sundance dl2k), #rtl8139 ], raw => [ qw(8390 mii), qw(ppp_generic ppp_async slhc aironet4500_core), ], pcmcia => [ qw(3c574_cs 3c589_cs airo airo_cs aironet4500_cs axnet_cs fmvj18x_cs), qw(ibmtr_cs netwave_cs nmclan_cs pcnet_cs ray_cs smc91c92_cs wavelan_cs wvlan_cs), qw(xirc2ps_cs xircom_cb xircom_tulip_cb), ], usb => [ qw(pegasus kaweth usbnet catc CDCEther), ], isdn => [ qw(hisax hysdn b1pci t1pci c4), ], }, disk => { scsi => [ if_(arch() =~ /ppc/, qw(mesh mac53c94)), if_(arch() =~ /^sparc/, qw(qlogicpti)), if_(arch() !~ /alpha/ && arch() !~ /sparc/, qw(3w- AM53C974 BusLogic NCR53c406a a100u2w advansys aha152x aha1542 aha1740), qw(atp870u dc395x_trm dtc fdomain g_NCR5380 in2000 initio pci2220i psi240i), qw(qla1280 qla2x00 qlogicfas qlogicfc), qw(seagate sim710 sym53c416 t128 tmscsim u14-34f ultrastor wd7000), qw(eata eata_pio eata_dma), ), '53c7,8xx', qw(aic7xxx pci2000 qlogicisp sym53c8xx), # ncr53c8xx ], hardware_raid => [ if_(arch() =~ /^sparc/, qw(pluto)), if_(arch() !~ /alpha/ && arch() !~ /sparc/, qw(DAC960 dpt_i2o megaraid aacraid ataraid cciss cpqarray gdth i2o_block), qw(qla2200 qla2300 cpqfc), qw(ips ppa imm), ), ], pcmcia => [ qw(aha152x_cs fdomain_cs nsp_cs qlogic_cs ide-cs) ], #ide_cs raw => [ qw(scsi_mod sd_mod) ], usb => [ qw(usb-storage) ], cdrom => [ qw(ide-cd cdrom sr_mod) ], }, bus => { usb => [ qw(usbcore usb-uhci usb-ohci ehci-hcd usbkbd keybdev input) ], pcmcia => [ if_(arch() !~ /^sparc/, qw(pcmcia_core tcic ds i82365 yenta_socket)), # cb_enabler ], #serial_cs #ftl_cs 3c575_cb apa1480_cb epic_cb serial_cb tulip_cb iflash2+_mtd iflash2_mtd #cb_enabler }, fs => { network => [ qw(af_packet nfs lockd sunrpc) ], cdrom => [ qw(isofs) ], loopback => [ qw(isofs loop) ], local => [ if_(arch() =~ /^i.86/, qw(vfat fat)), if_(arch() =~ /^ppc/, qw(hfs)), qw(reiserfs), ], various => [ qw(smbfs romfs jbd xfs) ], }, multimedia => { sound => [ if_(arch() =~ /ppc/, qw(dmasound_awacs)), if_(arch() !~ /^sparc/, qw(audigy cmpci cs46xx cs4281 emu10k1 es1370 es1371 esssolo1 i810_audio maestro maestro3), qw(nm256_audio pas16 rme96xx sonicvibes trident via82cxxx_audio ymfpci), qw(snd-als100 snd-als4000 snd-azt2320 snd-cmi8330 snd-cmipci snd-cs46xx snd-dt0197h), qw(snd-cs4281 snd-emu10k1), qw(snd-ens1370 snd-ens1371 snd-es18xx snd-es96 snd-es1938 snd-es1968 snd-es1688), qw(snd-fm801 snd-ice1712 snd-intel8x0 snd-korg1212 snd-maestro3), qw(snd-nm256 snd-rme96 snd-rme32 snd-opl3sa2 snd-sb16 nd-sgalaxy snd-sonicvibes), qw(snd-trident snd-usb-audio snd-via686
[Cooker] Cooker] Beta3 - Sound card detection
The installation of Beta3 went quit well except of the sound card detection. Beta1 and 2 worked very well but not Beta3. I have a Sound Blaster Live Value Digital 1024 installed. When I run sndconfig the card is detected but after hitting OK it says "Sound Blaster Live Value not supported " Any suggestions? BKO