Re: [Cooker] Cooker installation report (not good)

2003-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 22:21, guran wrote:
> On Saturday 16 August 2003 22.38, Duncan wrote:
> > On Sat 16 Aug 2003 05:23, Frederic Soulier posted as excerpted below:
> > > 3) Missing KDE programs (eg Konsole)
> >
> > Konsole was just split off of kdebase.  It's now a separate package,
> > kdebase-konsole, or some such.  I think it should still be installed by
> > default, but either it isn't tweaked to do so when selecting KDE yet, due
> > the the newness of the split, or others think otherwise, it would seem
> This has happened for me a couple of times now, and I am afraid that someone 
> might be trying to do the same mistake as RedHat has been doing, forcing the 
> user away from KDE. to the slower and rigid Gnome.
> Pathetic, if this is the case.
> guran

However, you're being paranoid and unhelpful. KDE is being split up
because it makes perfect sense to split KDE up, and what you're seeing
is teething troubles, and the reason you're seeing them is because this
is Cooker, where teething troubles happen. Don't like 'em, go elsewhere.
See, no need to panic.
-- 
adamw




Re: [Cooker] Cooker installation report (not good)

2003-08-16 Thread guran
On Saturday 16 August 2003 22.38, Duncan wrote:
> On Sat 16 Aug 2003 05:23, Frederic Soulier posted as excerpted below:
> > 3) Missing KDE programs (eg Konsole)
>
> Konsole was just split off of kdebase.  It's now a separate package,
> kdebase-konsole, or some such.  I think it should still be installed by
> default, but either it isn't tweaked to do so when selecting KDE yet, due
> the the newness of the split, or others think otherwise, it would seem
This has happened for me a couple of times now, and I am afraid that someone 
might be trying to do the same mistake as RedHat has been doing, forcing the 
user away from KDE. to the slower and rigid Gnome.
Pathetic, if this is the case.
guran
-- 
Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk

Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth
can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.




Re: [Cooker] Cooker installation report (not good)

2003-08-16 Thread Duncan
On Sat 16 Aug 2003 05:23, Frederic Soulier posted as excerpted below:
> 3) Missing KDE programs (eg Konsole)

Konsole was just split off of kdebase.  It's now a separate package, 
kdebase-konsole, or some such.  I think it should still be installed by 
default, but either it isn't tweaked to do so when selecting KDE yet, due the 
the newness of the split, or others think otherwise, it would seem

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin




[Cooker] Cooker installation report (not good)

2003-08-16 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi 

1) Installing with Grub on a dedicated /boot partition does not work
   (cannot boot)
   Installing with Lilo (graphical) on the same dedicated /boot works
   perfectly fine


2) Supermount is sloo.
   plus every ~5s it feels the need to access the floppy drive...
   also only root has access to the floppy...

   I wish supermount was dropped from the distro. It's never been
   working properly on any machines I've installed Mandrake (and this
   goes back several distro releases). Anyway that's always the 1st
   thing I get rid of after installing Mandrake...


3) Missing KDE programs (eg Konsole)


4) From the MDK login manager, I cannot reboot... only halt the machine
   I'm not gonna start again with the login manager and it has been
   discussed before I believe but why not use a properly themed GDM or
   KDM?!?!


5) In KDE, starting Kate for the 1st time shows only a small window and
   the "show terminal" is ticked by default. Why? It's an editor.


6) Mandrake
   from lilo prompt to MDK login manager  (110 seconds)
   from MDK login manager to KDE (fully logged)   ( 20 seconds)  

   Gentoo
   from Grub prompt to GDM login manager  ( 63 seconds)
   from GDM login manager to KDE (fully logged)   ( 16 seconds)

   Measured on the same box (dual P3 733MHz, 512Mb Ram, HDs with
   similar perf according to hdparm)


7) Trying to format my USB HD (6Gb) using:
  "mkfs.vfat -v -c -F 32 /dev/sda"
   I get:
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: MSDOS FS: Using codepage 850
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-15
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: FAT: bogus logical sector size 41488
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem
on dev 08:01.
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: FAT: freeing iocharset=iso8859-15
Aug 16 11:05:00 wallaby CROND[3295]: (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S
/var/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news)
Aug 16 11:10:00 wallaby CROND[3316]: (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S
/var/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news)
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame#
654
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429615
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429616
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429617
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429618
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429619
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429620
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429621

(about 28Mb of this crap...)

8) My USB HD is correctly recognized as /dev/sda1 but when I switched on
my firewire HD enclosure I get:

Aug 16 10:50:01 wallaby kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device
Aug 16 10:50:01 wallaby kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: Node 0-00:1023: Max
speed [S400] - Max payload [2048]
Aug 16 10:50:01 wallaby /etc/hotplug/ieee1394.agent: Setup sbp2 for
IEEE1394 product 0x00/0x00609e/0x010483

but cat /proc/scsi/scsi does show anything and ls -la /dev/sd* still
shows only sda1 (I expect sdb1 and sdb2 as I have 2 partitions on the HD
in the firewire enclosure).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lspcidrake
agpgart : Intel Corporation|82840 840 (Carmel) Chipset Host
Bridge (Hub A) [BRIDGE_HOST]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82840 840 (Carmel) Chipset AGP
Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82840 840 (Carmel) Chipset PCI
Bridge (Hub B) [BRIDGE_PCI]
i810_rng: Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset Hub to PCI
Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI]
i810-tco: Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset LPC Interface
Bridge [BRIDGE_ISA]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset IDE Controller
[STORAGE_IDE]
usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset USB Controller
[SERIAL_USB]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset SMBus Controller
[SERIAL_SMBUS]
Card:NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic): NVidia|GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
[DISPLAY_VGA]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82806AA PCI64 Hub PCI Bridge
[BRIDGE_PCI]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82806AA PCI64 Hub Advanced
Programmable Interrupt Controller [SYSTEM_PIC]
aic7xxx : Adaptec|7892A [STORAGE_SCSI]
unknown : Texas Instruments|PCI2250 PCI-to-PCI