Re: [Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings

2002-06-12 Thread JJ

Rial Juan wrote:
 
 Sure worked for me, although I noticed front and rear are switched
 around all of a sudden (well, it's a quick fix in the config script
 anyway).
 
 I'll send my config files to your personal email off-list.
 
 My hardware is a simple SB Live! 4.1 with the same speaker set you have
 (if it's the white one), but it should work, regardless what speaker set
 you're using, even using two stereo speaker pairs should work, although
 you'll miss out on the relatively good bass them FPS sets create. ;-)
 
 On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 23:25, Nathan A. Smith wrote:
  Ok,
 
  Followed instructions and got the drivers.  Sound much better.  First
  time I fired up the drivers got front speakers -- at last!! But I was
  not happy, let me get my other speakers working.  Edited my emu10k1.conf
  file in /etc and ran emu-script -- wow rear speakers.  Oh, wait a minute
  -- no front speakers any more!  edit script back, reran emu-script and
  still no front speakers!  What is  the deal?  Checked hardware all
  good.  So what can cause this?  I have a sblive with fps2000 digital
  speakers.
 
  Nasa
 
 
  On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 18:40, Rial Juan wrote:
   On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 06:49, Doug McClendon wrote:
   
Nathan A. Smith wrote:
   
Hi,

I seem to be having trouble getting my sblive soundcard working
properly.  I have sound (system, xmms, etc) - but only from my rear
speakers

   
I have often run into people who had just their rear speaker output
connected to their
normal primary speakers under windows, then being perplexed when they
got no sound
in linux.  I suggest you double check and make sure that what you think
is the front speaker
output jack, really is the front speaker output jack.
  
   Go to http://opensource.creative.com/ and download the EMU10K1 Project.
   It includes a file /usr/local/etc/emu-script or something like that.
   Edit, run, rejoice, put in startup scripts.
  
   I used to have 4 speaker sound in mdk, then lost it after a cooker
   upgrade (prolly kernel, dunno). After installing the stuff from the
   creative opensource page it works again.
  
  
   Also, on a sidenote... And by no means intended to start a flame war or
   something like that, but how come so many stuff in cooker is broken, or
   breaks things which previously worked? My fonts change from unreadably
   small to horribly huge after a MandrakeUpdate, my belgian keyboard
   switches from a state where it can produce a tilde to where it can't (in
   X; only the tilde seems affected), stuff that used to work suddenly
   doesn't work anymore, new libs which should obsolete older ones conflict
   instead of obsoleting and removing them from the system, icons disappear
   and after another upgrade reappear... sometimes... All of a sudden since
   upgrading my kdelibs my kvirc stops working and can't be found on the
   mirrors anymore either (ok, ok, I got the warning that there were
   incompatibilities and clicked force, not a good idea, but why does it
   have to break in the first place?)...
  
   Yeah, sure, I read the disclaimer, I know cooker is not
   production-ready, but hey, I got debian boxes at home which run on the
   unstable (sid) branch and guess what: they don't fuck up. Now I don't
   want to start a distro war here, I like mandrake, but I'd like to see a
   way of keeping my system up to date with the latest software releases
   without slowly tearing it apart in the process. Cooker is definately not
   it; too many things go wrong whenever you try to keep it up to date.
   Seems like some mdk cooker packagers are just sloppy and don't even
   check their upgraded packages, or otherwise I just missed some basic
   howto-knowledge on MandrakeUpdate and Cooker use... I hope it's the
   latter; in that case someone can enlighten me and I might learn from my
   mistakes.
  
  
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Re: [Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings

2002-06-11 Thread Nathan A. Smith

Ok,

Followed instructions and got the drivers.  Sound much better.  First
time I fired up the drivers got front speakers -- at last!! But I was
not happy, let me get my other speakers working.  Edited my emu10k1.conf
file in /etc and ran emu-script -- wow rear speakers.  Oh, wait a minute
-- no front speakers any more!  edit script back, reran emu-script and
still no front speakers!  What is  the deal?  Checked hardware all
good.  So what can cause this?  I have a sblive with fps2000 digital
speakers.

Nasa


On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 18:40, Rial Juan wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 06:49, Doug McClendon wrote:
  
  Nathan A. Smith wrote:
  
  Hi, 
  
  I seem to be having trouble getting my sblive soundcard working
  properly.  I have sound (system, xmms, etc) - but only from my rear
  speakers
  
  
  I have often run into people who had just their rear speaker output 
  connected to their
  normal primary speakers under windows, then being perplexed when they 
  got no sound
  in linux.  I suggest you double check and make sure that what you think 
  is the front speaker
  output jack, really is the front speaker output jack.
 
 Go to http://opensource.creative.com/ and download the EMU10K1 Project.
 It includes a file /usr/local/etc/emu-script or something like that.
 Edit, run, rejoice, put in startup scripts.
 
 I used to have 4 speaker sound in mdk, then lost it after a cooker
 upgrade (prolly kernel, dunno). After installing the stuff from the
 creative opensource page it works again.
 
 
 Also, on a sidenote... And by no means intended to start a flame war or
 something like that, but how come so many stuff in cooker is broken, or
 breaks things which previously worked? My fonts change from unreadably
 small to horribly huge after a MandrakeUpdate, my belgian keyboard
 switches from a state where it can produce a tilde to where it can't (in
 X; only the tilde seems affected), stuff that used to work suddenly
 doesn't work anymore, new libs which should obsolete older ones conflict
 instead of obsoleting and removing them from the system, icons disappear
 and after another upgrade reappear... sometimes... All of a sudden since
 upgrading my kdelibs my kvirc stops working and can't be found on the
 mirrors anymore either (ok, ok, I got the warning that there were
 incompatibilities and clicked force, not a good idea, but why does it
 have to break in the first place?)...
 
 Yeah, sure, I read the disclaimer, I know cooker is not
 production-ready, but hey, I got debian boxes at home which run on the
 unstable (sid) branch and guess what: they don't fuck up. Now I don't
 want to start a distro war here, I like mandrake, but I'd like to see a
 way of keeping my system up to date with the latest software releases
 without slowly tearing it apart in the process. Cooker is definately not
 it; too many things go wrong whenever you try to keep it up to date.
 Seems like some mdk cooker packagers are just sloppy and don't even
 check their upgraded packages, or otherwise I just missed some basic
 howto-knowledge on MandrakeUpdate and Cooker use... I hope it's the
 latter; in that case someone can enlighten me and I might learn from my
 mistakes.
 
 
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Re: [Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings

2002-06-11 Thread Rial Juan

Sure worked for me, although I noticed front and rear are switched
around all of a sudden (well, it's a quick fix in the config script
anyway).

I'll send my config files to your personal email off-list.

My hardware is a simple SB Live! 4.1 with the same speaker set you have
(if it's the white one), but it should work, regardless what speaker set
you're using, even using two stereo speaker pairs should work, although
you'll miss out on the relatively good bass them FPS sets create. ;-)

On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 23:25, Nathan A. Smith wrote:
 Ok,
 
 Followed instructions and got the drivers.  Sound much better.  First
 time I fired up the drivers got front speakers -- at last!! But I was
 not happy, let me get my other speakers working.  Edited my emu10k1.conf
 file in /etc and ran emu-script -- wow rear speakers.  Oh, wait a minute
 -- no front speakers any more!  edit script back, reran emu-script and
 still no front speakers!  What is  the deal?  Checked hardware all
 good.  So what can cause this?  I have a sblive with fps2000 digital
 speakers.
 
 Nasa
 
 
 On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 18:40, Rial Juan wrote:
  On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 06:49, Doug McClendon wrote:
   
   Nathan A. Smith wrote:
   
   Hi, 
   
   I seem to be having trouble getting my sblive soundcard working
   properly.  I have sound (system, xmms, etc) - but only from my rear
   speakers
   
   
   I have often run into people who had just their rear speaker output 
   connected to their
   normal primary speakers under windows, then being perplexed when they 
   got no sound
   in linux.  I suggest you double check and make sure that what you think 
   is the front speaker
   output jack, really is the front speaker output jack.
  
  Go to http://opensource.creative.com/ and download the EMU10K1 Project.
  It includes a file /usr/local/etc/emu-script or something like that.
  Edit, run, rejoice, put in startup scripts.
  
  I used to have 4 speaker sound in mdk, then lost it after a cooker
  upgrade (prolly kernel, dunno). After installing the stuff from the
  creative opensource page it works again.
  
  
  Also, on a sidenote... And by no means intended to start a flame war or
  something like that, but how come so many stuff in cooker is broken, or
  breaks things which previously worked? My fonts change from unreadably
  small to horribly huge after a MandrakeUpdate, my belgian keyboard
  switches from a state where it can produce a tilde to where it can't (in
  X; only the tilde seems affected), stuff that used to work suddenly
  doesn't work anymore, new libs which should obsolete older ones conflict
  instead of obsoleting and removing them from the system, icons disappear
  and after another upgrade reappear... sometimes... All of a sudden since
  upgrading my kdelibs my kvirc stops working and can't be found on the
  mirrors anymore either (ok, ok, I got the warning that there were
  incompatibilities and clicked force, not a good idea, but why does it
  have to break in the first place?)...
  
  Yeah, sure, I read the disclaimer, I know cooker is not
  production-ready, but hey, I got debian boxes at home which run on the
  unstable (sid) branch and guess what: they don't fuck up. Now I don't
  want to start a distro war here, I like mandrake, but I'd like to see a
  way of keeping my system up to date with the latest software releases
  without slowly tearing it apart in the process. Cooker is definately not
  it; too many things go wrong whenever you try to keep it up to date.
  Seems like some mdk cooker packagers are just sloppy and don't even
  check their upgraded packages, or otherwise I just missed some basic
  howto-knowledge on MandrakeUpdate and Cooker use... I hope it's the
  latter; in that case someone can enlighten me and I might learn from my
  mistakes.
  
  
  -- 
  
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Re: [Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings

2002-06-09 Thread Rial Juan

On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 06:49, Doug McClendon wrote:
 
 Nathan A. Smith wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I seem to be having trouble getting my sblive soundcard working
 properly.  I have sound (system, xmms, etc) - but only from my rear
 speakers
 
 
 I have often run into people who had just their rear speaker output 
 connected to their
 normal primary speakers under windows, then being perplexed when they 
 got no sound
 in linux.  I suggest you double check and make sure that what you think 
 is the front speaker
 output jack, really is the front speaker output jack.

Go to http://opensource.creative.com/ and download the EMU10K1 Project.
It includes a file /usr/local/etc/emu-script or something like that.
Edit, run, rejoice, put in startup scripts.

I used to have 4 speaker sound in mdk, then lost it after a cooker
upgrade (prolly kernel, dunno). After installing the stuff from the
creative opensource page it works again.


Also, on a sidenote... And by no means intended to start a flame war or
something like that, but how come so many stuff in cooker is broken, or
breaks things which previously worked? My fonts change from unreadably
small to horribly huge after a MandrakeUpdate, my belgian keyboard
switches from a state where it can produce a tilde to where it can't (in
X; only the tilde seems affected), stuff that used to work suddenly
doesn't work anymore, new libs which should obsolete older ones conflict
instead of obsoleting and removing them from the system, icons disappear
and after another upgrade reappear... sometimes... All of a sudden since
upgrading my kdelibs my kvirc stops working and can't be found on the
mirrors anymore either (ok, ok, I got the warning that there were
incompatibilities and clicked force, not a good idea, but why does it
have to break in the first place?)...

Yeah, sure, I read the disclaimer, I know cooker is not
production-ready, but hey, I got debian boxes at home which run on the
unstable (sid) branch and guess what: they don't fuck up. Now I don't
want to start a distro war here, I like mandrake, but I'd like to see a
way of keeping my system up to date with the latest software releases
without slowly tearing it apart in the process. Cooker is definately not
it; too many things go wrong whenever you try to keep it up to date.
Seems like some mdk cooker packagers are just sloppy and don't even
check their upgraded packages, or otherwise I just missed some basic
howto-knowledge on MandrakeUpdate and Cooker use... I hope it's the
latter; in that case someone can enlighten me and I might learn from my
mistakes.


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Re: [Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings

2002-06-09 Thread Rial Juan

On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 03:49, Michael Andreen wrote:

 I moved to cooker a month or two ago and it's been a very nice ride so far, 
 it's not much that I miss in it.. ;)

Consistence and stability perhaps, other than that I like mandrake
because it had most of the apps I regularly use, I'm an ex Redhat user,
and maybe that distro has matured since then, but at the time I was
using it I still had to dowload lots of stuff from the net which were
standard issue on Mandrake.

 Sure there are some things that get wrong once in a while, but of what I've 
 seen they get solved rather quickly (as long as someone bothers to report it, 
 if it isn't reported then it's hard to solve the problem since it's hard 
 enough to find it in the insert HUGE number possible configurations).
 Just continue reporting problmes, that's what's really needed and if noone 
 responds then complain about the lack of response since good reporting and 
 good response is what's needed (and of course some action from the responding 
 part) to get rid of the flaws. 

Well, I am pretty new to this list, but I don't mind reporting bugs n'
all that, it's just that right now I don't have the time due to exams.
But I just notice the sharp contrast between cooker which slowly tears
my system apart, constantly has something broken and is full of
conflicting packages and the happy sid boxes at home which have not had
any problems yet.

snip

 kvirc 3, even though it isn't released as stable yet, is a very nice client 
 (that beats everything I've seen so far on both linux and windows) and I've 
 been running selfcompiled versions for about 5 months now.
 Sure it would be nice to have this packaged for cooker (who maintained kvirc2? 
 maybe time for me to learn how to create rpms?? ;),

In fact, it ain't that hard. Just read the cooker docs on the cooker
site. However, I noticed that whenever I make a spec file it doesn't
look nearly as big and complicated than the mandrake ones, but hey, it
builds, it installs and it runs. Good enough for me, but not for public
release. ;)

 but it's not hard at all 
 (if you got some experiance of compiling) to either check out the latest cvs 
 snapshot or download a snapshot from ftp://ftp.kvirc.net if you don't want to 
 mess with the auto* tools.

Will do; I don't mind getting down and dirty with CVS every now and then
when a package isn't provided by my distro, but if it is I'd rather have
it installed as a package instead of just source.

Anyway, thanks for the kvirc hint; it still doesn't fix all the stuff
that's broken on my box.

I understand making a distro is not an easy task; everything needs to
work together, sometimes unpredictable problems may arise which break
stuff, etc... But then again, if another distro can pull it off, so can
Mandrake. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone; I have no right to since I
am not a mandrake packager who has proven himself to always deliver
bug-free packages. I am just looking at the facts and realising that
with mandrake you have 2 choices: either you don't upgrade untill the
next stable distro hits the shelves (apart from the security updates
that is), or you upgrade and have lots of stuff broken.

It would be nice to see a third Mandrake incarnation which consists of
tried-and-true cooker packages, so that users can have relatively new
versions of their favourite software, but also can rest assured that
there are no problems with the packages. Coz waiting till the next
Mandrake hits the shelves is just too damn long. ;-)

kind regards,

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Re: [Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings

2002-06-03 Thread Doug McClendon


Nathan A. Smith wrote:

Hi, 

I seem to be having trouble getting my sblive soundcard working
properly.  I have sound (system, xmms, etc) - but only from my rear
speakers


I have often run into people who had just their rear speaker output 
connected to their
normal primary speakers under windows, then being perplexed when they 
got no sound
in linux.  I suggest you double check and make sure that what you think 
is the front speaker
output jack, really is the front speaker output jack.

-dmc


 and I can't get my tv sound working (I have verified the
hardware settings by trying it in windows).  I have tried alsamixer and
I can adjust treble/bass/wave sur but nothing else does anything.  To
make matters worse it hard to tell what is suppose to do what.  Is there
some place I can look for what mixer settings do what, helps us (not so
bright) people configure our soundcards to play tv sounds and have thier
speakers all work??  Thanks in advance

Nasa

System:  Athlon 500, 512Megs memory, ATI 8500DV, sblive, and some other
stuff.




  







[Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings

2002-06-02 Thread Nathan A. Smith


Hi, 

I seem to be having trouble getting my sblive soundcard working
properly.  I have sound (system, xmms, etc) - but only from my rear
speakers and I can't get my tv sound working (I have verified the
hardware settings by trying it in windows).  I have tried alsamixer and
I can adjust treble/bass/wave sur but nothing else does anything.  To
make matters worse it hard to tell what is suppose to do what.  Is there
some place I can look for what mixer settings do what, helps us (not so
bright) people configure our soundcards to play tv sounds and have thier
speakers all work??  Thanks in advance

Nasa

System:  Athlon 500, 512Megs memory, ATI 8500DV, sblive, and some other
stuff.