[Cooker] Looking good from here (lspcidrake for PAG 2130)
Thanks, Tom Brinkman. Yes there are Chipsets and there are cheapsets, and the VIA seems to have its share of icompatibilities, though not as many as the PCChips clones of the cheapsets. The i810/820/840 are junky and do require certified memory to have a chance at working right. lspci on the FIC PAG 2130 I promised hours ago but a defective INTEL network card help up progress while I fumed and gnashed my teeth. VIA Technologies|VT8501 (unknown unknown) VIA Technologies|VT8501 (unknown unknown) Intel Corporation|82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (NETWORK_ETHERNET eepro100) VIA Technologies|VT82C686 (Apollo Super) (unknown unknown) VIA Technologies|VT82C586 [Apollo] (STORAGE_IDE ignore) VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB (SERIAL_USB usb-uhci) VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB (SERIAL_USB usb-uhci) VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (unknown unknown) VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio] (MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO via82cxxx) Trident Microsystems|CyberBlade/i7 (DISPLAY_VGA Card:Trident CyberBlade (generic)) This is yet another flaky mobo that is an attractive buy (YAFLAMAB)... Memory timing is a nightmare and merely running the board at its rated speed is a tuners art. Still, once the timing is set in the BIOS, the performance is reasonable though "lost interrupt" errors will appear with Seagate drives on UDMA/66 and 586 code. Fortunately 686 code is not an option because we'd most likely be frying data. The audio 82cxx loads but fails on "device or resource busy" Now to other matters Of chips and sealant wax, of babbages and induction rings,,, The only recent Mobo I am absolutely unable to break thus far is the Shuttle HOT-599 with an SiS-530 Chipset. Video sets up just fine ever since Venus and sound is impossible, AFAIK. I will be retesting a couple for sound when I convert to 7.1 final to gain the benefits of Reiserfs, but right now they are running Helios. No lspcidrake output available because I am unable to test any of my 599's--they are in running servers. They crank right along, even boosted 12% in a hot closet for a week--nary a hiccup. If the sound works, fine. If not, well, if I had some in workstations, it would be time to try to code a driver, I think. Shuttle has not been noted for high performance boards, but this time they lucked out and produced something stable though still no speed demon. Anyway, 7.1 is looking good. Took 4 different EEPro cards to find one that would work, but that is the truly terrible story of Intel's advertising budget outstripping their continuous improvement budget by probably a thousand to one. (And if I used Windows, I'd probably be blaming the Op System.) Civileme
[Cooker] Looking good from here
OK i810 runs with a blasted Seagate Barracuda (and certified memory) FIC PAG 2130 runs well except for sound--neither sndconfig nor harddrake nor OSS seem to be able to help this supposedly "SB compatible" trash on-southbridge kludge. Will send output of lspcidrake As soon as I can get back to that target machine. No software is going to keep WD drives honest about CRCs nor will it keep them from physically breaking (sound like a marble on a table top when it happens). Well the area I have remaining is that it seems one MUST DL the security software for lib.crypto and lib.ssl or the KDE2 betas will not run, not even under kde1. I would say that is OK for BETA-testing but not for offering the binaries. And with a Cyrix MediaGX I have two problems--1. Harddrake ASSUMES a southbridge sound blaster, but the MediaGX does not need the 5510 companion chipset to run--it can use alien video and audio. 2. I have to rpm -ivh --ignorearch packagename all the time to install mandrake software. Here is lspcidrake for the test MegiaGX:Cyrix Cyrix Corporation| PCI Master [MediaGX] (unknown Server: SVGA) S3 Inc. |ViRGE/DX or /GX (DISPLAY_VGA Card:S3 ViRGE (gegeric)) Realtek|8029 (NETWORK_ETHERNET ne2k-pci) Cyrix Corporation|5510 [Grappa] (unknown unknown) In fact, I have an Avance ALS-100 with the OPL-3SAx chip and PCI interface in that machine. Civileme Willo send lspcidrake of the FIC PAG 2130 within two hours. -- BETA-testing Netscape 6 and its mailer
Re: [Cooker] Looking good from here
On Wed, 10 May 2000, you wrote: OK i810 runs with a blasted Seagate Barracuda (and certified memory) Y'all are aware that nothing Intel put out after the BX chipset, works properly, right? i8whatever boards are suspect at best, and just recently Intel had to bite the bullet and recall _ALL_ (like almost a million) i820 based systems at their expense. They'll either replace your mobo (good luck, you'll prob'ly wind up with a Dell special), or trade your ram out for ramBus (best wishes again that it'll work any better). Now that was all fact, MNSHO is that ata/66 (added on or built in) and/or defective mobo's (i8whatever and the not ready for prime time VIA's) are the root of many instabilities, conflicts, blame the ram or HDD's, . I'd hate to be in Mandrakes shoes tryin to keep i8xx and VIA (yeah, that includes the Athlon crowd) owners happy. 'Specially what with Intel and AMD doin their best to make 'em nervous ;- This mesg brought to you by a old 5400rpm WD slave runin on a severely oc'd BX Soyo ata/33 mobo, HDD's by WD and IBM ;-) -- .. Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] FIC PAG 2130 runs well except for sound--neither sndconfig nor harddrake nor OSS seem to be able to help this supposedly "SB compatible" trash on-southbridge kludge. Will send output of lspcidrake As soon as I can get back to that target machine. No software is going to keep WD drives honest about CRCs nor will it keep them from physically breaking (sound like a marble on a table top when it happens). Well the area I have remaining is that it seems one MUST DL the security software for lib.crypto and lib.ssl or the KDE2 betas will not run, not even under kde1. I would say that is OK for BETA-testing but not for offering the binaries. And with a Cyrix MediaGX I have two problems--1. Harddrake ASSUMES a southbridge sound blaster, but the MediaGX does not need the 5510 companion chipset to run--it can use alien video and audio. 2. I have to rpm -ivh --ignorearch packagename all the time to install mandrake software. Here is lspcidrake for the test MegiaGX:Cyrix Cyrix Corporation| PCI Master [MediaGX] (unknown Server: SVGA) S3 Inc. |ViRGE/DX or /GX (DISPLAY_VGA Card:S3 ViRGE (gegeric)) Realtek|8029 (NETWORK_ETHERNET ne2k-pci) Cyrix Corporation|5510 [Grappa] (unknown unknown) In fact, I have an Avance ALS-100 with the OPL-3SAx chip and PCI interface in that machine. Civileme Willo send lspcidrake of the FIC PAG 2130 within two hours. -- BETA-testing Netscape 6 and its mailer