Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
Frederic Crozat wrote >Guys, you are incredible : for Mdk 8.2, I was bashed because I didn't >include Moz 0.9.8 (and I was right, there was a lot of regressions >compared to Moz 0.9.7 we shipped).. > >And now that we will ship Moz 1.1, we are bashed because it is too recent > (even if it has passed both alpha and beta stage).. You are never happy and >I'm becoming a little upset by this kind of behaviour.. > > I am one of those that were complaining about not including Moz 0.9.8. Now, I am definitely pleased with Moz 1.1:-) BTW, I used Mozilla 1.1beta from tarballs for some time, and never encountered a problem anyway... Great work! Michal
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
Vox wrote: > I don't talk up much here, but...I agree, so far I haven't had a > single unusable mozilla out of mandrake, so...I'm 100% behind you > too, Frederic :) Same here. Keep up the excellent job. That's why there are betas/RCs and every one can test if all important stuff for him works OK. -- Live long and prosper!
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think what people need to do is give you some credit > and leave the QA issues to you. Give useful bug > reports (if they're Mandrake specific), or sit back > and enjoy the ride. > > I stand behind your judgement 100% Frederic. I don't talk up much here, but...I agree, so far I haven't had a single unusable mozilla out of mandrake, so...I'm 100% behind you too, Frederic :) Vox -- Pain is the gift of the gods, and I'm the one they chose as their messenger For info on safety in the BDSM lifestyle http://www.the-vox.com Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr.
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
--- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you were reading mozillazine and mozilla > newsgroup, you would know that > release candidate of Mozilla 1.1 are out and 1.1 > should ship probably next > monday or tuesday.. > > Guys, you are incredible : for Mdk 8.2, I was bashed > because I didn't > include Moz 0.9.8 (and I was right, there was a lot > of regressions > compared to Moz 0.9.7 we shipped).. Yeah, I just about sent a message earlier saying man, you can't please everybody, some complain it's not new enough, some it's too new. > And now that we will ship Moz 1.1, we are bashed > because it is too recent > (even if it has passed both alpha and beta stage).. > You are never happy and > I'm becoming a little upset by this kind of > behaviour.. You should be! :o( > Did you see any Release Candidate of Mandrake Linux > recently ? There won't > be "final" Mdk 9.0 until at least some RC are out.. I think what people need to do is give you some credit and leave the QA issues to you. Give useful bug reports (if they're Mandrake specific), or sit back and enjoy the ride. I stand behind your judgement 100% Frederic. __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
On Sat Aug 17 1:03 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote: > Guys, you are incredible : for Mdk 8.2, I was bashed because I didn't > include Moz 0.9.8 (and I was right, there was a lot of regressions > compared to Moz 0.9.7 we shipped).. You can't please 'em all, Fred... ;o) -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Was it something I said? And the stars look down. Linux 2.4.18-21mdk 8:15pm up 2 days, 20:19, 7 users, load average: 0.25, 0.23, 0.20
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 01:03:43AM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote: > Guys, you are incredible : for Mdk 8.2, I was bashed because I didn't > include Moz 0.9.8 (and I was right, there was a lot of regressions > compared to Moz 0.9.7 we shipped).. > > And now that we will ship Moz 1.1, we are bashed because it is too recent > (even if it has passed both alpha and beta stage).. You are never happy and > I'm becoming a little upset by this kind of behaviour.. Take a chill pill. It isn't even the same people complaining. You know not all of us agree on things... -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you. - The Wisdom of the Sands
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
>>yes yes... I'm aware of that, but Mozilla.org is not exactly "on time" >>with there releases. Hopefully they have changed, but they have no track >>record of releasing on time. 1.0 was late, but good. I suspect the same >>with 1.1, late but good. The problem is 1.1 isn't ready yet, and the >>"ideal release" date has come and gone. If they are "on time" just like >>like thier other releases (1.1 alpha nad beta) we can expect thier 1.1 >>final in 3 days. That's fine., but leavs little time for testing for >>mandrake and us. > > > If you were reading mozillazine and mozilla newsgroup, you would know that > release candidate of Mozilla 1.1 are out and 1.1 should ship probably next > monday or tuesday.. Like I said, final should be out in 3 days > Guys, you are incredible : for Mdk 8.2, I was bashed because I didn't > include Moz 0.9.8 (and I was right, there was a lot of regressions > compared to Moz 0.9.7 we shipped).. > > And now that we will ship Moz 1.1, we are bashed because it is too recent > (even if it has passed both alpha and beta stage).. You are never happy and > I'm becoming a little upset by this kind of behaviour.. You didn't release with 0.9.8 because you didn't have enough time to test it... I don't want the same thing to happen with mozilla 1.1 where we end up with mozilla-crap-o-rama-beta-rc because they took too long and you don't have time to test the final. You didn't ship with 0.9.8 becasue it was to close to a release... And I'm fine with that. I understand. I'm letting you know that the current mozilla (whatever version) is crap, and crashes all the time. And I also understand you need time to test the RC or final... > Did you see any Release Candidate of Mandrake Linux recently ? There won't > be "final" Mdk 9.0 until at least some RC are out.. My main concern is having a mozilla - whatever the version is - stable. And I'm on this list to test, for myself, and you. -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
Le Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:38:16 +, Bryan Whitehead a écrit : > Frederic Crozat wrote: >> Le Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:56:19 +, Bryan Whitehead a écrit : >> >> >>>I'm not sure how wise it is that your all using Mozilla 1.1Beta... We >>>expanded our beta testbed to actual users and the biggest complaint is >>>Mozilla locks up about 5 times an hour while just using the mail >>>component. >>> >>>Unless Mozilla 1.1 is going to reach final maybe it would be better to >>>fall back to Mozilla 1.0 ? >> >> >> Of course, if you had read the changelog entry, you had seen we are >> using the almost final version of Mozilla 1.1 (ie branch point from last >> week) and not the 1.1beta.. Moreover, Mozilla 1.1 should be released >> next week (and changes are minimal with the current branch version in >> beta3/cooker).. > > yes yes... I'm aware of that, but Mozilla.org is not exactly "on time" > with there releases. Hopefully they have changed, but they have no track > record of releasing on time. 1.0 was late, but good. I suspect the same > with 1.1, late but good. The problem is 1.1 isn't ready yet, and the > "ideal release" date has come and gone. If they are "on time" just like > like thier other releases (1.1 alpha nad beta) we can expect thier 1.1 > final in 3 days. That's fine., but leavs little time for testing for > mandrake and us. If you were reading mozillazine and mozilla newsgroup, you would know that release candidate of Mozilla 1.1 are out and 1.1 should ship probably next monday or tuesday.. Guys, you are incredible : for Mdk 8.2, I was bashed because I didn't include Moz 0.9.8 (and I was right, there was a lot of regressions compared to Moz 0.9.7 we shipped).. And now that we will ship Moz 1.1, we are bashed because it is too recent (even if it has passed both alpha and beta stage).. You are never happy and I'm becoming a little upset by this kind of behaviour.. > It really wouldn't worry me at all except the last Mandrake releases have > been "final" without any warning and I don't want to come in monday > morning with a "Mandrake 9.0 Fianl Released" (as happened with Mandrake > 8.2) with a bunch of stuff broke - like an "almost final" version of > mozilla. Did you see any Release Candidate of Mandrake Linux recently ? There won't be "final" Mdk 9.0 until at least some RC are out.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
Frederic Crozat wrote: > Le Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:56:19 +, Bryan Whitehead a écrit : > > >>I'm not sure how wise it is that your all using Mozilla 1.1Beta... We >>expanded our beta testbed to actual users and the biggest complaint is >>Mozilla locks up about 5 times an hour while just using the mail >>component. >> >>Unless Mozilla 1.1 is going to reach final maybe it would be better to >>fall back to Mozilla 1.0 ? > > > Of course, if you had read the changelog entry, you had seen we are using > the almost final version of Mozilla 1.1 (ie branch point from last week) > and not the 1.1beta.. Moreover, Mozilla 1.1 should be released next week > (and changes are minimal with the current branch version in > beta3/cooker).. yes yes... I'm aware of that, but Mozilla.org is not exactly "on time" with there releases. Hopefully they have changed, but they have no track record of releasing on time. 1.0 was late, but good. I suspect the same with 1.1, late but good. The problem is 1.1 isn't ready yet, and the "ideal release" date has come and gone. If they are "on time" just like like thier other releases (1.1 alpha nad beta) we can expect thier 1.1 final in 3 days. That's fine., but leavs little time for testing for mandrake and us. It really wouldn't worry me at all except the last Mandrake releases have been "final" without any warning and I don't want to come in monday morning with a "Mandrake 9.0 Fianl Released" (as happened with Mandrake 8.2) with a bunch of stuff broke - like an "almost final" version of mozilla. So if you know 9.0 Final is going to wait for the mozilla folk to cut final... great. Otherwise the beta/cvs-snapshot isn't cutting it. -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] M9 Beta3 Mozilla bug report
Le Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:56:19 +, Bryan Whitehead a écrit : > I'm not sure how wise it is that your all using Mozilla 1.1Beta... We > expanded our beta testbed to actual users and the biggest complaint is > Mozilla locks up about 5 times an hour while just using the mail > component. > > Unless Mozilla 1.1 is going to reach final maybe it would be better to > fall back to Mozilla 1.0 ? Of course, if you had read the changelog entry, you had seen we are using the almost final version of Mozilla 1.1 (ie branch point from last week) and not the 1.1beta.. Moreover, Mozilla 1.1 should be released next week (and changes are minimal with the current branch version in beta3/cooker).. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
