Re: [Cooker] Problems with RC1...

[Buchan Milne]

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Adam Williamson wrote:

> > Frustrating for me, but I hope it gives Mandrake some things to look at
> > to make their very good distro the best, most comprehensive one out
> > there. 
> 
> Mandrake would not carry nvnet in its free version on ethical grounds
> (no non-free software in free Mandrake). It may be included in the box
> sets, I'm not sure.

It was in 9.1:

$ urpmf nvnet.o
NVIDIA_nforce-2.4.21-0.13mdk:/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/drivers/net/nvnet.o.gz

Unfortunately these SRPMS aren't available, so it has been impossible to 
update them (ie in Club), so I guess some people are stuck running 0.13mdk 
or without a NIC (unlike the NVIDIA dispaly card users who get updates in 
Club since I had an old SRPM around which I have been maintaining).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Problems with RC1...

[Charles A Edwards]

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:39:48 +0100
Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I found 3rd party drivers for my ATI 9600 Pro that appear to
> > work.The ones out of the RC1 (or 9.1) distro did not - simply didn't
> > even load X, even though it did recognize the card as some form of
> > Radeon. http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati.html,get
> > the glx1_linux_X4.3.zip package. Those worked. 
> 
> They're not third party; they're written by ATI's German branch.
> Unsupported, though, I think.


Also worth noting is the fact that the ATI 9600/9800 are not
supported by XFree-4.3 so this is not a Mandrake issue.

They will work in a stock mdk installation if the vesa driver is used.
For mdk versions earlier than the 9.2 beta vga must also be set to
vga=normal


Charles

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Re: [Cooker] Problems with RC1...

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 17:10, Jeff Shultz wrote:
> I never got any messages from Bugzilla letting me in, and I'm not sure
> what modules I'd "blame" for this anyway... but I've gotten some fairly
> new hardware to turn into a new system and run into a few problems. I'm
> hoping that by the final release of 9.2 these problems might not exist
> anymore - this is from a post I made to a private newsgroup:
> 
> I didn't believe I could do it, but it appears that I may have finally
> stepped just beyond the bleeding edge of current Linux capabilities with
> this sytem. It all comes down to device drivers of course, and the
> apparent inability of hardware manufacturers to write ones for Linux for
> their current hardware. 
> 
> I found 3rd party drivers for my ATI 9600 Pro that appear to work.The
> ones out of the RC1 (or 9.1) distro did not - simply didn't even load X,
> even though it did recognize the card as some form of Radeon. 
> http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati.html,get the
> glx1_linux_X4.3.zip package. Those worked. 

They're not third party; they're written by ATI's German branch.
Unsupported, though, I think.

> The 9.2RC1 of Mandrake Linux contains support for the Serial ATA (so did
> 9.1, sort of, but it didn't work very well) on my Gigabyte GA-7NNXP
> (Athlon XP) board.I haven't tried the hardware RAID under 9.2, but I'm
> not especially hopeful  - it wasn't recognized under 9.1 at all.
> 
> The Intel-based gigabit ethernet controller was recognized... The nVidia
> nForce2 Ultra400 based 10/100 network port is recognized by the LAN
> automatic sensing thing in 9.2...but the install program gets all weird
> and doesn't seem to be doing anything.,It see's it, asks if it's the
> only one (at that point, yes), and then asks what you'd like to
> install... Dialup, DSL, Cable or LAN... endless loop time. It doesn't
> offer a "cancel" option either. Three-fingered salute appeared to be the
> only option. This was after the install, when I deactivated the Gigabit
> controller in hopes that Harddrake would look beyond it to find the
> 10/100 controller. The nForce2 stuff seems to be making it's way onto a
> lot of boards, so I'm hoping that drivers for it show up. 

Nvidia will not release the spec for the port, which is why there's no
open source driver. Drakconnect recognises it because there's a
closed-source driver provided by Nvidia which it will deal with if you
install it yourself; the driver is nvnet, part of the nforce driver
suite you can get from nvidia.com (not the same thing as the nvidia
graphics driver). Download the .tar.gz, extract it and just run "make"
and "make install" from the nvnet subdirectory; don't bother with the
nvaudio module, it's not necessary and it can be a pain to build.

> Frustrating for me, but I hope it gives Mandrake some things to look at
> to make their very good distro the best, most comprehensive one out
> there. 

Mandrake would not carry nvnet in its free version on ethical grounds
(no non-free software in free Mandrake). It may be included in the box
sets, I'm not sure.
-- 
adamw

[Cooker] Problems with RC1...

[Jeff Shultz]

I never got any messages from Bugzilla letting me in, and I'm not sure
what modules I'd "blame" for this anyway... but I've gotten some fairly
new hardware to turn into a new system and run into a few problems. I'm
hoping that by the final release of 9.2 these problems might not exist
anymore - this is from a post I made to a private newsgroup:

I didn't believe I could do it, but it appears that I may have finally
stepped just beyond the bleeding edge of current Linux capabilities with
this sytem. It all comes down to device drivers of course, and the
apparent inability of hardware manufacturers to write ones for Linux for
their current hardware. 

I found 3rd party drivers for my ATI 9600 Pro that appear to work.The
ones out of the RC1 (or 9.1) distro did not - simply didn't even load X,
even though it did recognize the card as some form of Radeon. 
http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati.html,get the
glx1_linux_X4.3.zip package. Those worked. 

The 9.2RC1 of Mandrake Linux contains support for the Serial ATA (so did
9.1, sort of, but it didn't work very well) on my Gigabyte GA-7NNXP
(Athlon XP) board.I haven't tried the hardware RAID under 9.2, but I'm
not especially hopeful  - it wasn't recognized under 9.1 at all.

The Intel-based gigabit ethernet controller was recognized... The nVidia
nForce2 Ultra400 based 10/100 network port is recognized by the LAN
automatic sensing thing in 9.2...but the install program gets all weird
and doesn't seem to be doing anything.,It see's it, asks if it's the
only one (at that point, yes), and then asks what you'd like to
install... Dialup, DSL, Cable or LAN... endless loop time. It doesn't
offer a "cancel" option either. Three-fingered salute appeared to be the
only option. This was after the install, when I deactivated the Gigabit
controller in hopes that Harddrake would look beyond it to find the
10/100 controller. The nForce2 stuff seems to be making it's way onto a
lot of boards, so I'm hoping that drivers for it show up. 

Frustrating for me, but I hope it gives Mandrake some things to look at
to make their very good distro the best, most comprehensive one out
there.