Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons: keeping the Drakes happy

2003-11-08 Thread danny
On 7 Nov 2003, [iso-8859-15] François Pons wrote:

 Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Is there anything that either Mandrake or we could do to make your job 
  noticeably more survivable?
 
 Thanks Leon for your though...
 
 Well, I'am not actually completely dead :) There are still some parts of me
 trying to continue to live :) I'am not working on the dark side, should I have
 to say it :)
 
Still, sad to see you go, hopefully you'll find the time to keep 
contributing!

d.




Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons: keeping the Drakes happy

2003-11-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:29, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  As of now, there is no room for hiring or paying more.
 
  What else would make Mandrake a more attractive workplace for you?
 
  I don't understand.
 
 Is there anything that either Mandrake or we could do to make your job 
 noticeably more survivable?

Ah I see now. Well I think not. We feel very lucky to work for
Mandrake actually, a very versatile and enjoyable work. And we
never forget we get paid for what we do, where a large number of
contributors just help us for free. So we don't complain much.

Well actually I speak for myself and a few others, of course
other developers may/will think differently :).
 
 I live on the other side of the planet, so I have no idea what would 
 make your day, or the collective day of the crew at your office. 
 Messages of encouragement? Photos of Pascal's nice girls with offers 
 of hospitality for your next holiday? Surprise free pizza (or French 
 equivalent? Crepes? Give us a head count and preferences, invite fpons 
 along too) for lunch? Free food and accommodation for any Drake that 
 attends LCA2004?

Thanks for the proposals :).

 Each time we *don't* install MS-Windows and MS-Office, we save ourselves 
 roughly USD$400 in licence fees (MS SQL Server? I don't have that much 
 money). If we put aside just 10% of that each time into a keep the 
 Drakes happy fund and 2% towards club membership then we still save 
 88% and just the crew reading this list (call it 100 people installing 
 an average of one system a month and you get USD$48,000 a year in the 
 slush fund plus USD$9600 a year to the Club) ought to be able to employ 
 a Drake or two by themselves - or keep the existing Drakes swamped in 
 luxuries. (-:

I guess good money from free software fans should go to Mandrake
or to GNU (or to Debian, etc). We employees are already paid,
let's not forget that's first a job we chose.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/



Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons: keeping the Drakes happy

2003-11-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Somehow I think that pizza is also available and well liked in France. 

Yes (by younger people mostly).

 I'm sure they don't snack on coq au vin and gaufres for lunch, just like

We actually snack much on sandwiches with french baguette. Very
few pizzas and burgers for lunch.

 the cafeteria here at York doesn't serve bangers and mash or prime rib
 with horseradish and Yorkshire pudding very often.  Kinda wish they did
 though.

Could be enjoyable (Yorkshire pudding rulz - got friends near
Ipswich/UK).

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/



Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons: keeping the Drakes happy

2003-11-07 Thread Franois Pons
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there anything that either Mandrake or we could do to make your job 
 noticeably more survivable?

Thanks Leon for your though...

Well, I'am not actually completely dead :) There are still some parts of me
trying to continue to live :) I'am not working on the dark side, should I have
to say it :)

Francois.



Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons: keeping the Drakes happy

2003-11-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:29, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 As of now, there is no room for hiring or paying more.

 What else would make Mandrake a more attractive workplace for you?

 I don't understand.

Is there anything that either Mandrake or we could do to make your job 
noticeably more survivable?

I live on the other side of the planet, so I have no idea what would 
make your day, or the collective day of the crew at your office. 
Messages of encouragement? Photos of Pascal's nice girls with offers 
of hospitality for your next holiday? Surprise free pizza (or French 
equivalent? Crepes? Give us a head count and preferences, invite fpons 
along too) for lunch? Free food and accommodation for any Drake that 
attends LCA2004?

Each time we *don't* install MS-Windows and MS-Office, we save ourselves 
roughly USD$400 in licence fees (MS SQL Server? I don't have that much 
money). If we put aside just 10% of that each time into a keep the 
Drakes happy fund and 2% towards club membership then we still save 
88% and just the crew reading this list (call it 100 people installing 
an average of one system a month and you get USD$48,000 a year in the 
slush fund plus USD$9600 a year to the Club) ought to be able to employ 
a Drake or two by themselves - or keep the existing Drakes swamped in 
luxuries. (-:

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons: keeping the Drakes happy

2003-11-06 Thread Austin
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 17:32, Leon Brooks wrote:
 Surprise free pizza (or French equivalent? Crepes?

LOL.
Damn that was funny!
Somehow I think that pizza is also available and well liked in France. 
I'm sure they don't snack on coq au vin and gaufres for lunch, just like
the cafeteria here at York doesn't serve bangers and mash or prime rib
with horseradish and Yorkshire pudding very often.  Kinda wish they did
though.
Austin

-- 
 Austin Acton
Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate
   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca