[Cooker] Rpmdrake and Cooker source
Hello, I'd like to state a problem about rpmdrake, and add a suggestion. On this mailinglist, and even more on irc it happens often that people install Cooker packages on a Mandrake 8.1 install, or even on a 8.0 install. Well, that's ok to me. But mostly people don't expect their install to break, and they don't understand that different versions shouldn't be mixed. What I'd like to see in rpmdrake, is that when you add a Cooker source, it states a warning. Something in the way of: You're trying to setup a Cooker source! You shouldn't do this, unless you know what you are doing. Cooker is a development version of Mandrake Linux. It will break your install, and it is meant to break your install. And another point; Rpmdrake has the habit to name a source after the url. If I setup a Cooker source from ftp.surfnet.nl, it gets called ftp.surfnet.nl. I'd like to see a Cooker source to be called Cooker, so that people who eventually find out Cooker breaks their install, can remove the Cooker source in rpmdrake more easily. Greetings, -- Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Rpmdrake and Cooker source
Marcel Pol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Don't forget to mention that these are mostly expiriences from irc, I'd like to state a problem about rpmdrake, and add a suggestion. On this mailinglist, and even more on irc it happens often that people install Cooker packages on a Mandrake 8.1 install, or even on a 8.0 install. Well, that's ok to me. But mostly people don't expect their install to break, and they don't understand that different versions shouldn't be mixed. Especially the reactions like, no I didn't do anything wrong. They broke it. What I'd like to see in rpmdrake, is that when you add a Cooker source, it states a warning. Something in the way of: You're trying to setup a Cooker source! You shouldn't do this, unless you know what you are doing. Cooker is a development version of Mandrake Linux. It will break your install, and it is meant to break your install. Lots of people don't even use urpmi whatever, they never understood it, they simply install the rpm. Lets put the following in %prein if uname != 8.2 then echo 'warning this is a cooker package' echo 'do _not_ install' exit 1 And another point; Rpmdrake has the habit to name a source after the url. If I setup a Cooker source from ftp.surfnet.nl, it gets called ftp.surfnet.nl. I'd like to see a Cooker source to be called Cooker, so that people who eventually find out Cooker breaks their install, can remove the Cooker source in rpmdrake more easily. if grep url cooker then sourcename cooker, Cya, Han.
Re: [Cooker] Rpmdrake and Cooker source
le sam 17-11-2001 à 14:10, Han a écrit : Marcel Pol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Don't forget to mention that these are mostly expiriences from irc, I'd like to state a problem about rpmdrake, and add a suggestion. On this mailinglist, and even more on irc it happens often that people install Cooker packages on a Mandrake 8.1 install, or even on a 8.0 install. Well, that's ok to me. But mostly people don't expect their install to break, and they don't understand that different versions shouldn't be mixed. Especially the reactions like, no I didn't do anything wrong. They broke it. it will be best to provides packages in the update for stable release so that they are not going to look for cooker packages. For example when a new KDE is out, etc ... What I'd like to see in rpmdrake, is that when you add a Cooker source, it states a warning. Something in the way of: You're trying to setup a Cooker source! You shouldn't do this, unless you know what you are doing. Cooker is a development version of Mandrake Linux. It will break your install, and it is meant to break your install. Lots of people don't even use urpmi whatever, they never understood it, they simply install the rpm. Lets put the following in %prein if uname != 8.2 then echo 'warning this is a cooker package' echo 'do _not_ install' exit 1 And another point; Rpmdrake has the habit to name a source after the url. If I setup a Cooker source from ftp.surfnet.nl, it gets called ftp.surfnet.nl. I'd like to see a Cooker source to be called Cooker, so that people who eventually find out Cooker breaks their install, can remove the Cooker source in rpmdrake more easily. if grep url cooker then sourcename cooker, Cya, Han. -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - Ta mere elle danse le Mia
Re: [Cooker] Rpmdrake and Cooker source
On 18 Nov 2001 00:16:04 +0100 Fabrice FACORAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: le sam 17-11-2001 à 14:10, Han a écrit : Marcel Pol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Don't forget to mention that these are mostly expiriences from irc, I'd like to state a problem about rpmdrake, and add a suggestion. On this mailinglist, and even more on irc it happens often that people install Cooker packages on a Mandrake 8.1 install, or even on a 8.0 install. Well, that's ok to me. But mostly people don't expect their install to break, and they don't understand that different versions shouldn't be mixed. Especially the reactions like, no I didn't do anything wrong. They broke it. it will be best to provides packages in the update for stable release so that they are not going to look for cooker packages. For example when a new KDE is out, etc ... I believe that topic was covered before, but it was found impossible to get packages updated for mandrake releases. There are too many packages for too few people. But yes, in an ideal world... -- Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake-adding Cooker source
Le Mercredi 3 Octobre 2001 21:14, Peter Ruskin scribit : OK, I found the reason. rpmdrake bales out as soon as it encounters a corrupt RPM - I had quite a few on my 8.1 repository rsync'd from uninett.no. I only became aware of this by running rpmdrake from the command line. Someone really ought to look at improving the message output from the gui - this _is_ the 21st century :-) We had warned David concerning that and it seems to have put in his TODO list tyhe possibility to activate a log widows as in some CD recording programs. But you'd better always start rpmdrake from console. Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpmdrake-1.3-105mdk cache problem De : David Odin [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : Fabrice FACORAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : Tue, 2 Oct 2001 13:34:55 +0200 On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:55:58AM +0200, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: Le Mardi 2 Octobre 2001 01:30, Han scribit : Fabrice FACORAT (f.faberOnetcourrier.com) wrote: By the way I allways start rpmdrake from the console. Now I bet most newbies don't know this trick so wouldn't it be helpfull for them if they would see all that info? Suggestion: basic. Let rpmdrake allways start from an xterm or make a separate window for it. Good idea. what about a log window that you can activate in order to see what happens ? Each time a user had a problem I had to advice him to start rpmdrake form console ( what I always do ). Good idea. Added to the todo. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - En guerre comme en amour, pour en finir il faut se voir de près. Napoleon
[Cooker] rpmdrake-adding Cooker source
I am still unable to add a Cooker source in the SoftwareMgr. My latest attemt was just moments ago. The source I wished to add was ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS Terminal output shows the following: 12050K .. .. .. .. .. 97% 0:05 57.8K 12100K .. .. .. .. .. 97% 0:04 63.1K 12150K .. .. .. .. .. 98% 0:03 76.3K 12200K .. .. .. .. .. 98% 0:02 81.8K 12250K .. .. .. .. .. 98% 0:01 88.1K 12300K .. .. .. .. .. 99% 0:01 59.0K 12350K .. .. .. .. .. 99% 0:00 29.3K 12400K .. .. 100% 0:00 31.2K 08:00:48 (51.76 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.cz' saved [12726912] nothing written in list file for pcÊ ðã unable to update medium pcÊ ðã urpmi.addmedia returns with this value: 2 I am running 8.1 on this system and using rpmdrake-1.3-104mdk. Charles
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake-adding Cooker source
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:22:49 +0200 David Odin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 08:00:48 (51.76 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.cz' saved [12726912] nothing written in list file for pcÊ ðã unable to update medium pcÊ ðã urpmi.addmedia returns with this value: 2 I am running 8.1 on this system and using rpmdrake-1.3-104mdk. Thanks for the report. Fixed in rpmdrake-1.3-105mdk -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. Installed and was able to add Sunet to source list. Charles
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake-adding Cooker source
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 08:16:37AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: I am still unable to add a Cooker source in the SoftwareMgr. My latest attemt was just moments ago. The source I wished to add was ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS Terminal output shows the following: 12050K .. .. .. .. .. 97% 0:05 57.8K 12100K .. .. .. .. .. 97% 0:04 63.1K 12150K .. .. .. .. .. 98% 0:03 76.3K 12200K .. .. .. .. .. 98% 0:02 81.8K 12250K .. .. .. .. .. 98% 0:01 88.1K 12300K .. .. .. .. .. 99% 0:01 59.0K 12350K .. .. .. .. .. 99% 0:00 29.3K 12400K .. .. 100% 0:00 31.2K 08:00:48 (51.76 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.cz' saved [12726912] nothing written in list file for pcÊ ðã unable to update medium pcÊ ðã urpmi.addmedia returns with this value: 2 I am running 8.1 on this system and using rpmdrake-1.3-104mdk. Thanks for the report. Fixed in rpmdrake-1.3-105mdk -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
