Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I press enter on the very fist screen, the install continues in graphic 
 mode without any problem.
 Is there a difference of mode between them ?

Yes. Lilo/syslinux patches are based on vesa-1.2 and are real
mode code. Kernel going framebuffer is based on vesa-2.0 (linear
framebuffer).

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Mercredi 5 Novembre 2003 14:18, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
 Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  When I press enter on the very first screen, the install continues in
  graphic mode without any problem.
  Is there a difference of mode between them ?

 Yes. Lilo/syslinux patches are based on vesa-1.2 and are real
 mode code. Kernel going framebuffer is based on vesa-2.0 (linear
 framebuffer).

Sure, you have found !
Lilo is self-installed in text mode. 
After the first install I have found grub by default. 

I hope a line in Errata ?
Lilo should be pached in the future or are they hardware which don't 
understand vesa-2.0 ? In this case, is a detection possible ?

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Le Mercredi 5 Novembre 2003 14:18, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
  Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   When I press enter on the very first screen, the install continues in
   graphic mode without any problem.
   Is there a difference of mode between them ?
 
  Yes. Lilo/syslinux patches are based on vesa-1.2 and are real
  mode code. Kernel going framebuffer is based on vesa-2.0 (linear
  framebuffer).
 
 Sure, you have found !
 Lilo is self-installed in text mode. 
 After the first install I have found grub by default. 
 
 I hope a line in Errata ?

Well why not but I don't understand what was the problem. Can you
propose an errata maybe? Please submit it in the form of the
other erratas (error scenario/why/solution).

 Lilo should be pached in the future or are they hardware which don't 
 understand vesa-2.0 ? In this case, is a detection possible ?

I don't understand what you mean.

Once again, our patch to lilo and syslinux use vesa-1.2 calls (in
real mode assembly). This is typically *more* compatible than
vesa-2.0 and linear framebuffer.

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Mercredi 5 Novembre 2003 17:41, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
 Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Le Mercredi 5 Novembre 2003 14:18, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
   Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When I press enter on the very first screen, the install continues in
graphic mode without any problem.
Is there a difference of mode between them ?
  
   Yes. Lilo/syslinux patches are based on vesa-1.2 and are real
   mode code. Kernel going framebuffer is based on vesa-2.0 (linear
   framebuffer).
 
  Sure, you have found !
  Lilo is self-installed in text mode.
  After the first install I have found grub by default.
 
  I hope a line in Errata ?

 Well why not but I don't understand what was the problem. Can you
 propose an errata maybe? Please submit it in the form of the
 other erratas (error scenario/why/solution).

I suggest this (my english is very poor, please, do corrections) :


iError scenario:/i
bShuttle SK41G : First screen of install shows horizontal stripes./b

briWhy:/i
Hardware not compliant with old vesa-1.2 used by LILO.

briSolution:/i
Don't worry ! Press Enter to continue (install or update from CD) or F1 for 
other modes.


 Once again, our patch to lilo and syslinux use vesa-1.2 calls (in
 real mode assembly). This is typically *more* compatible than
 vesa-2.0 and linear framebuffer.

Yes, but it does't work at all !

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I suggest this (my english is very poor, please, do corrections) :
 
 
 iError scenario:/i
 bShuttle SK41G : First screen of install shows horizontal stripes./b
 
 briWhy:/i
 Hardware not compliant with old vesa-1.2 used by LILO.
 
 briSolution:/i
 Don't worry ! Press Enter to continue (install or update from CD) or F1 for 
 other modes.

I'm not sure it deserves an errata, especially since waiting for
timeout or pushing enter or esc cures the problem.

Anyway, that's up to Vincent.

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Vincent Danen
On Nov 05, 2003, at 15:52, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I suggest this (my english is very poor, please, do corrections) :

iError scenario:/i
bShuttle SK41G : First screen of install shows horizontal 
stripes./b

briWhy:/i
Hardware not compliant with old vesa-1.2 used by LILO.
briSolution:/i
Don't worry ! Press Enter to continue (install or update from CD) or 
F1 for
other modes.
I'm not sure it deserves an errata, especially since waiting for
timeout or pushing enter or esc cures the problem.
Anyway, that's up to Vincent.
Personally, I agree with you on this one.  I don't think this is 
necessary.

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-04 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Ah yes? First time I hear that this very compatible vesa-1.2 only
  stuff doesn't work :/.
 
 Perhaps some settings in the bios ? 
 There a two settings:
 - video RAM Cacheable [enabled|disabled]
 - VGA Share Memory Size 
 This size is now 8 M. Is this enough ? 16M, 32M ?

800x600x16bit would fit in 8 Mb without a problem..


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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-04 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Mardi 4 Novembre 2003 14:13, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
 Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Ah yes? First time I hear that this very compatible vesa-1.2 only
   stuff doesn't work :/.
 
  Perhaps some settings in the bios ?
  There a two settings:
  - video RAM Cacheable [enabled|disabled]
  - VGA Share Memory Size
  This size is now 8 M. Is this enough ? 16M, 32M ?

 800x600x16bit would fit in 8 Mb without a problem.

Of course ! 
When I press enter on the very fist screen, the install continues in graphic 
mode without any problem.
Is there a difference of mode between them ?
Is there enough time between swiching the mode and writing the buffer ?
The processor is Athlon 1.6G, RAM=512M

This is a minor bug but sadly, it's the first screen !

I have installed the shuttle in an oenologic center. People were impressed
with the powerful Shuttle and Mdk 9.2 I had prepared for them.

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  After install, everything works fine. 
 
 Been reported before, I think. It's some kind of flaw in the SK41G's
 onboard graphics, I'm not entirely sure there's much Mandrake can do
 about it.

Ah yes? First time I hear that this very compatible vesa-1.2 only
stuff doesn't work :/.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/



Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-03 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Lundi 3 Novembre 2003 12:34, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
 Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   After install, everything works fine.
 
  Been reported before, I think. It's some kind of flaw in the SK41G's
  onboard graphics, I'm not entirely sure there's much Mandrake can do
  about it.

 Ah yes? First time I hear that this very compatible vesa-1.2 only
 stuff doesn't work :/.

Perhaps some settings in the bios ? 
There a two settings:
- video RAM Cacheable [enabled|disabled]
- VGA Share Memory Size 
This size is now 8 M. Is this enough ? 16M, 32M ?

-- 
Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/
Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org/




Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 23:24, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
 Main board FX41 
 Video VT8751 [ProSavageDDR P4M266] 
  
 When booting on the CD1, the first screen ( F1 or Enter ) is not readable. it 
 shows only 
 horizontal blue stripes.  
 The monitor iiyama Pro451 is not the problem, because it occurs with another 
 monitor (ViewSonic M70).
  
 If I press Enter, the install continues in graphic mode (frame buffer) without 
 any problem!
  
 After install, everything works fine. 

Been reported before, I think. It's some kind of flaw in the SK41G's
onboard graphics, I'm not entirely sure there's much Mandrake can do
about it.
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[Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-01 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Main board FX41 
Video VT8751 [ProSavageDDR P4M266] 
 
When booting on the CD1, the first screen ( F1 or Enter ) is not readable. it 
shows only 
horizontal blue stripes.  
The monitor iiyama Pro451 is not the problem, because it occurs with another 
monitor (ViewSonic M70).
 
If I press Enter, the install continues in graphic mode (frame buffer) without 
any problem!
 
After install, everything works fine. 
-- 
Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/
Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org/