Re: [Cooker] The case of total KDE death again

2001-09-26 Thread guran

On Wednesday 26 September 2001 7:50 am, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
Hi
I don't know if this will help you, I had similar reports to you in my 
.xsession-errors and I downloaded from Flash* the real thing and exchanged 
them with those from Mdk. The result is I don't have any .xsession-errors any 
longer.

Before I wrote this I reinstalled the old files, and the problem got back and 
later disappeared again with the new files.

regards
guran
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Re: [Cooker] The case of total KDE death again

2001-09-26 Thread Sergio Korlowsky

On Tuesday 25 September 2001 23:55, you wrote:
  On Tuesday 25 September 2001 12:36, you wrote:
   It was already reported today and it happened to me @home. I started

 KDE

   via startx, up came splash screen, the last thing displayed were

 these

   KDE gears, then splash screen went away and there was nothing more.

 In

   ps I could see seberal kdeinit's, the last two (father and child)
   waiting  on read(5,...) and read(7,...) (from memory, sorry). There

 were

   noting useful in .xsession-errors just usual crap about DCOP server
   already running, not ELF etc.
  
   BTW it took some time. I typed startx and went to make tea. As I

 came

   back I exactly saw splash screen disappearing.
  
   As usual, I ask myself why this should start to happen just before
   release ...
  
   -andrej
 
  I don't know if you saw yesterdays mail, someone had the same proble

 abd

  is
  really easy to fix.
 
  Just  'rm' .DCOPserver_whatever  and
  .DCOPserver_whatever:0  Plus .MCOP-random-seed
 
  and try to login again... enjoy!

 Pardon me, but

 - it is no fix. Fix is when you know *why* it hangs
 - I simply killed all kdeinit's, started again and it worked. So your
 easy fix has nothing to do with it and is pure coincidence. That is
 exactly what is irritating.
 - are you going to explain it to every future Mandrake 8.1 user? :-)

 -andrej

Andrej

I know this is NOT a fix, I am not the one who has to do it.
I am an ordinary user as anyone else. I am not a developer nor a programer, 
I wish I was. ;-)

ALL I did was exactly that, give you a 'quick' fix...
Also I am not the one who has to 'explain' to every past or future Mandrake 
user how to fix it.. or better, WHY it does not work or has been fixed!

Come down man... take it easy, all we do is test and provide the programers 
with information so 'they' may correct the problem.

And by pure coincidence found out that easy fix.  At least it keeps me going.

Sincerelly:

Sergio Korlowsky
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[Cooker] The case of total KDE death again

2001-09-25 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

It was already reported today and it happened to me @home. I started KDE 
via startx, up came splash screen, the last thing displayed were these 
KDE gears, then splash screen went away and there was nothing more. In 
ps I could see seberal kdeinit's, the last two (father and child) 
waiting  on read(5,...) and read(7,...) (from memory, sorry). There were 
noting useful in .xsession-errors just usual crap about DCOP server 
already running, not ELF etc.

BTW it took some time. I typed startx and went to make tea. As I came 
back I exactly saw splash screen disappearing.

As usual, I ask myself why this should start to happen just before 
release ...

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] The case of total KDE death again

2001-09-25 Thread john . allen

Borsenkow Andrej wrote:

 It was already reported today and it happened to me @home. I started 
 KDE via startx, up came splash screen, the last thing displayed were 
 these KDE gears, then splash screen went away and there was nothing 
 more. In ps I could see seberal kdeinit's, the last two (father and 
 child) waiting  on read(5,...) and read(7,...) (from memory, sorry). 
 There were noting useful in .xsession-errors just usual crap about 
 DCOP server already running, not ELF etc.

 BTW it took some time. I typed startx and went to make tea. As I came 
 back I exactly saw splash screen disappearing.

 As usual, I ask myself why this should start to happen just before 
 release ...

 -andrej

I think this may be a problem with the nspluginscan, I had to delete some
shite from my plugins directory to get nspluginscan to stop hanging.

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Re: [Cooker] The case of total KDE death again

2001-09-25 Thread Sergio Korlowsky

On Tuesday 25 September 2001 12:36, you wrote:
 It was already reported today and it happened to me @home. I started KDE
 via startx, up came splash screen, the last thing displayed were these
 KDE gears, then splash screen went away and there was nothing more. In
 ps I could see seberal kdeinit's, the last two (father and child)
 waiting  on read(5,...) and read(7,...) (from memory, sorry). There were
 noting useful in .xsession-errors just usual crap about DCOP server
 already running, not ELF etc.

 BTW it took some time. I typed startx and went to make tea. As I came
 back I exactly saw splash screen disappearing.

 As usual, I ask myself why this should start to happen just before
 release ...

 -andrej

I don't know if you saw yesterdays mail, someone had the same proble abd is 
really easy to fix.

Just  'rm' .DCOPserver_whatever  and  
.DCOPserver_whatever:0  Plus .MCOP-random-seed

and try to login again... enjoy!
-- 
SedeComp Comunicaciones Internet Solutions
MandrakeSoft's VAR and System Integrator
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenPGP key available on:http://www.keyserver.net/en/
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RE: [Cooker] The case of total KDE death again

2001-09-25 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 On Tuesday 25 September 2001 12:36, you wrote:
  It was already reported today and it happened to me @home. I started
KDE
  via startx, up came splash screen, the last thing displayed were
these
  KDE gears, then splash screen went away and there was nothing more.
In
  ps I could see seberal kdeinit's, the last two (father and child)
  waiting  on read(5,...) and read(7,...) (from memory, sorry). There
were
  noting useful in .xsession-errors just usual crap about DCOP server
  already running, not ELF etc.
 
  BTW it took some time. I typed startx and went to make tea. As I
came
  back I exactly saw splash screen disappearing.
 
  As usual, I ask myself why this should start to happen just before
  release ...
 
  -andrej
 
 I don't know if you saw yesterdays mail, someone had the same proble
abd
 is
 really easy to fix.
 
 Just  'rm' .DCOPserver_whatever  and
 .DCOPserver_whatever:0  Plus .MCOP-random-seed
 
 and try to login again... enjoy!


Pardon me, but

- it is no fix. Fix is when you know *why* it hangs
- I simply killed all kdeinit's, started again and it worked. So your
easy fix has nothing to do with it and is pure coincidence. That is
exactly what is irritating.
- are you going to explain it to every future Mandrake 8.1 user? :-)

-andrej





RE: [Cooker] The case of total KDE death again

2001-09-25 Thread Lonnie Borntreger

/usr/bin/startkde:
88  # Laurent kde2.2-30mdk scan-nsplugins
89  #if [ -x /usr/bin/nspluginscan ]; then
90  #   /usr/bin/nspluginscan
91  #fi

Hummm.  kde2.2-30 is about when it started.  I comment out these lines
(as I've stated in several emails on this topic), and all works.  This
addition to startkde is obviously not correct, or at least in the wrong
place.  This is because nspluginscan starts dcopserver.  It even says it
is starting it right in .xsession-errors.  Then kdeinit dies due to
dcopserver already being started.  Well, of course it's already started,
nspluginscan said that it started it, right before kdeinit tried to.

My guess is that on a really fast machine, dcopserver shuts down again
before kdeinit tries to restart it. Otherwise it would happen to
EVERYONE, because it happens EVERY TIME on my P2-233.  No matter how
many .DCOP*, .MCOP* and /tmp/blah files I delete.

Lonnie
=
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING:
library=/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/ShockwaveFlash.class:
file=/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/ShockwaveFlash.class:
/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/ShockwaveFlash.class: invalid ELF header
DCOPServer up and running.  FIRST START BY NSPLUGINSCAN
kdeinit: Shutting down running client.
kio (KLauncher): ERROR: KLauncher: KDEInit communication error Commiting
suicide 
DCOP aborting (delayed) call from 'kded' to 'klauncher'
-
It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure
that it is not already running, remove   I'M SURE IT _IS_ RUNNING!
/home/67goat/.DCOPserver_pocket_:0
and start dcopserver again.
-

KDE Daemon (kded) already running.
kbuildsycoca already running!
kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children.
kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit: Exit.



On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 23:55, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 September 2001 12:36, you wrote:
  It was already reported today and it happened to me @home. I started
KDE
  via startx, up came splash screen, the last thing displayed were
these
  KDE gears, then splash screen went away and there was nothing more.
In
  ps I could see seberal kdeinit's, the last two (father and child)
  waiting  on read(5,...) and read(7,...) (from memory, sorry). There
were
  noting useful in .xsession-errors just usual crap about DCOP server
  already running, not ELF etc.
 
  BTW it took some time. I typed startx and went to make tea. As I
came
  back I exactly saw splash screen disappearing.
 
  As usual, I ask myself why this should start to happen just before
  release ...
 
  -andrej
 
 I don't know if you saw yesterdays mail, someone had the same proble
abd
 is
 really easy to fix.
 
 Just  'rm' .DCOPserver_whatever  and
 .DCOPserver_whatever:0  Plus .MCOP-random-seed
 
 and try to login again... enjoy!


Pardon me, but

- it is no fix. Fix is when you know *why* it hangs
- I simply killed all kdeinit's, started again and it worked. So your
easy fix has nothing to do with it and is pure coincidence. That is
exactly what is irritating.
- are you going to explain it to every future Mandrake 8.1 user? :-)

-andrej

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TTFN,
Lonnie Borntreger

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