Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
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Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
> Le mer 26/02/2003 à 10:24, Oden Eriksson a écrit :
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> Instead, here's what I suggest we do:
> - Test all Apache 2.0 modules, fix bugs, improve the config files and
> documentation. A lot of modules were not working correctly, there were
> segfaults, etc. I tested and corrected a lot of modules, but there's
> still work to do.
> - Find PHP/Perl/TCL/whatever packages to include in the distro. We
> already have horde/imp, oscommerce, php{My|Pg}admin, and others, but
> there is other interesting stuff, like SQLedger, PHPHelpDesk, or
> interesting stuff you might find on sites such as:
> http://php.resourceindex.com/Complete_Scripts/
>
> What I would love to see is a sympa-like mailing list manager, but in
> PHP, with archived stuff, etc. I know there's stuff like this at
> Mandrake, but it's pretty old stuff, and has been customized heavily.
> Something that works out-of-the-box would be nice. We also need some
> multi-user free hosting system like Geocities/Tripod, etc. Finally, a
> DynDNS-like system would be great too =)
>
> If you think of anything else, let me know!
>
It may be better to move this onto advx-users, but I would like to see
some easy-to-use content-management system for corporate/professional
external sites (ie not phpnuke and clones). We have a need for something
like that, and I just have not had the time to test all the potential
solutions. Most of them are not difficult to setup, but ones like
Midgard etc need some binaries which make life a bit more difficult.
For hosting sites, something like ispman (or similar) may be interesting ...
I would also like to see mapserver, but I may try my hand at that (since
it involves some use of grass).
Regards,
Buchan
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Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
Le ven 28/02/2003 à 13:07, Oden Eriksson a écrit : > > > BTW, I'm giving a conference on PHP next month: > > > http://phpconf.phpquebec.com/index.php?langue=en&page=conferenciers > > > Of course, I'll plug Mandrake 9.1 and ADVX ;-) > > Two things > > 1. You must be popular they listed your picture twice! > > 2. For those who can't attend could you please post your presentation > > to the club or someplace similar? > Yes that would indeed be interesting to see. J-M? > Maybe we'll see it later on, after the happening? Well, the conference will be in French, so the slides will be in french, but maybe I can make them bilingual? I will post the slides on ADVX.org whenever they are ready. Jean-Michel
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
Le mer 26/02/2003 à 10:24, Oden Eriksson a écrit :
> I just thought of something..., later I will try to make optional build
> switches so that you can rebuild apache2 statically with any of the MPM's
> and with/without php+perl+?. What do you think, waste of time? I've been
> wanting to do this for a long time now, but never got into actually fix it.
> The binary and configs has to work side-by-side with current setup.
I think it's a waste of time and effort. The worker MPM has not been
heavily tested, the threaded MPM is not recommended, since most addon
modules (including php) are not thread-safe.
Those are the reasons why only 1% of unix-based Apache servers run 2.0
(latest figures from Netcraft). On Windows, this is different, 1.3 is
not stable while 2.0 with the threaded MPM is the preferred option,
that's why 7% of Windows-based Apache servers run 2.0. But they don't
run additional modules ;-)
Instead, here's what I suggest we do:
- Test all Apache 2.0 modules, fix bugs, improve the config files and
documentation. A lot of modules were not working correctly, there were
segfaults, etc. I tested and corrected a lot of modules, but there's
still work to do.
- Find PHP/Perl/TCL/whatever packages to include in the distro. We
already have horde/imp, oscommerce, php{My|Pg}admin, and others, but
there is other interesting stuff, like SQLedger, PHPHelpDesk, or
interesting stuff you might find on sites such as:
http://php.resourceindex.com/Complete_Scripts/
What I would love to see is a sympa-like mailing list manager, but in
PHP, with archived stuff, etc. I know there's stuff like this at
Mandrake, but it's pretty old stuff, and has been customized heavily.
Something that works out-of-the-box would be nice. We also need some
multi-user free hosting system like Geocities/Tripod, etc. Finally, a
DynDNS-like system would be great too =)
If you think of anything else, let me know!
Jean-Michel
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
torsdagen den 27 februari 2003 04.42 skrev James Sparenberg: > On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 06:01, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > > Le lun 24/02/2003 à 16:05, Oden Eriksson a écrit : > > > > Besides, we should go upstream (to the ASF) with that, since they > > > > have started to do this already (for manual, and they fsked it bad), > > > > and this will probably fixed in future Apache versions. I'm also > > > > meeting ASF members in a couple of weeks, and I'll bug them with that > > > > ;-) > > > > > > Cool, didn't know that. Send them my regards when you meet them. > > > > Will do. > > > > BTW, I'm giving a conference on PHP next month: > > http://phpconf.phpquebec.com/index.php?langue=en&page=conferenciers > > > > Of course, I'll plug Mandrake 9.1 and ADVX ;-) > > > > Jean-Michel > > Two things > 1. You must be popular they listed your picture twice! > 2. For those who can't attend could you please post your presentation > to the club or someplace similar? Yes that would indeed be interesting to see. J-M? Maybe we'll see it later on, after the happening? -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 06:01, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: > Le lun 24/02/2003 à 16:05, Oden Eriksson a écrit : > > > Besides, we should go upstream (to the ASF) with that, since they have > > > started to do this already (for manual, and they fsked it bad), and this > > > will probably fixed in future Apache versions. I'm also meeting ASF > > > members in a couple of weeks, and I'll bug them with that ;-) > > Cool, didn't know that. Send them my regards when you meet them. > > Will do. > > BTW, I'm giving a conference on PHP next month: > http://phpconf.phpquebec.com/index.php?langue=en&page=conferenciers > > Of course, I'll plug Mandrake 9.1 and ADVX ;-) > > Jean-Michel Two things 1. You must be popular they listed your picture twice! 2. For those who can't attend could you please post your presentation to the club or someplace similar? James > >
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
- Original Message - From: "Jean-Michel Dault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Oden Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk) Le lun 24/02/2003 à 16:05, Oden Eriksson a écrit : > > Besides, we should go upstream (to the ASF) with that, since they have > > started to do this already (for manual, and they fsked it bad), and this > > will probably fixed in future Apache versions. I'm also meeting ASF > > members in a couple of weeks, and I'll bug them with that ;-) > Cool, didn't know that. Send them my regards when you meet them. Will do. BTW, I'm giving a conference on PHP next month: http://phpconf.phpquebec.com/index.php?langue=en&page=conferenciers Of course, I'll plug Mandrake 9.1 and ADVX ;-) (damn outlook) Cool! I just thought of something..., later I will try to make optional build switches so that you can rebuild apache2 statically with any of the MPM's and with/without php+perl+?. What do you think, waste of time? I've been wanting to do this for a long time now, but never got into actually fix it. The binary and configs has to work side-by-side with current setup.
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
Le lun 24/02/2003 à 16:05, Oden Eriksson a écrit : > > Besides, we should go upstream (to the ASF) with that, since they have > > started to do this already (for manual, and they fsked it bad), and this > > will probably fixed in future Apache versions. I'm also meeting ASF > > members in a couple of weeks, and I'll bug them with that ;-) > Cool, didn't know that. Send them my regards when you meet them. Will do. BTW, I'm giving a conference on PHP next month: http://phpconf.phpquebec.com/index.php?langue=en&page=conferenciers Of course, I'll plug Mandrake 9.1 and ADVX ;-) Jean-Michel
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 10:22, Oden Eriksson wrote: > söndagen den 23 februari 2003 14.27 skrev Marcel Pol: > > On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:25:58 +0100 > > > > Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > söndagen den 23 februari 2003 11.56 skrev Buchan Milne: > > > > On 23 Feb 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > >In many ways I would agree with you except for one. Many people > > > > > use Linux for web serving and windblows for web surfing. IEx.x does > > > > > a really poor job of displaying transparent png's and the default > > > > > reaction of most people when they see it is. "Linux is broken." > > > > > > Ok, let's do some tests then. I activated the transparent png icons at my > > > cooker project site here: http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/ > > > > > > (http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/png_icons_test_dir/) > > > > > > How does it work with different browsers? > > > > I don't see any difference between these browsers: > > - Current cooker/Konqueror > > - Current cooker/Mozilla > > - Win2k Phoenix > > - Win2k IE5.0 > > The png files are transparent. > > Ok, only one person reporting on this issue. > > J-M, could we do this switch, what do you think? > > perl -p -i -e "s|\.gif|\.png|g" /etc/httpd/conf/common* > > ? Oden, this is what I get when I try to see test_file.png using galeon-1.3.2-2mdk: The image “http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/png_icons_test_dir/test_file.png”; cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. I assume this is not a real png file. If you were talking about the "bomb.png", "text.png", etc, these icons are displayed correctly. Just for info. -- Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
måndagen den 24 februari 2003 19.00 skrev Jean-Michel Dault: > Le lun 24/02/2003 à 14:22, Oden Eriksson a écrit : > > Ok, only one person reporting on this issue. > > J-M, could we do this switch, what do you think? > > perl -p -i -e "s|\.gif|\.png|g" /etc/httpd/conf/common* > > I would suggest we wait for after 9.1, there are yet too many migration > scripts, and there are still a couple of things to check. Okidoki. > Besides, we should go upstream (to the ASF) with that, since they have > started to do this already (for manual, and they fsked it bad), and this > will probably fixed in future Apache versions. I'm also meeting ASF > members in a couple of weeks, and I'll bug them with that ;-) > > Jean-Michel Cool, didn't know that. Send them my regards when you meet them. -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
Le lun 24/02/2003 à 14:22, Oden Eriksson a écrit : > Ok, only one person reporting on this issue. > J-M, could we do this switch, what do you think? > perl -p -i -e "s|\.gif|\.png|g" /etc/httpd/conf/common* I would suggest we wait for after 9.1, there are yet too many migration scripts, and there are still a couple of things to check. Besides, we should go upstream (to the ASF) with that, since they have started to do this already (for manual, and they fsked it bad), and this will probably fixed in future Apache versions. I'm also meeting ASF members in a couple of weeks, and I'll bug them with that ;-) Jean-Michel
Re: [Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
söndagen den 23 februari 2003 14.27 skrev Marcel Pol: > On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:25:58 +0100 > > Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > söndagen den 23 februari 2003 11.56 skrev Buchan Milne: > > > On 23 Feb 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > >In many ways I would agree with you except for one. Many people > > > > use Linux for web serving and windblows for web surfing. IEx.x does > > > > a really poor job of displaying transparent png's and the default > > > > reaction of most people when they see it is. "Linux is broken." > > > > Ok, let's do some tests then. I activated the transparent png icons at my > > cooker project site here: http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/ > > > > (http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/png_icons_test_dir/) > > > > How does it work with different browsers? > > I don't see any difference between these browsers: > - Current cooker/Konqueror > - Current cooker/Mozilla > - Win2k Phoenix > - Win2k IE5.0 > The png files are transparent. Ok, only one person reporting on this issue. J-M, could we do this switch, what do you think? perl -p -i -e "s|\.gif|\.png|g" /etc/httpd/conf/common* ? -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com
[Cooker] Transparent png icons test (Was: apache2-2.0.44-5mdk)
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:25:58 +0100 Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > söndagen den 23 februari 2003 11.56 skrev Buchan Milne: > > On 23 Feb 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: > > >In many ways I would agree with you except for one. Many people use > > > Linux for web serving and windblows for web surfing. IEx.x does a > > > really poor job of displaying transparent png's and the default reaction > > > of most people when they see it is. "Linux is broken." > Ok, let's do some tests then. I activated the transparent png icons at my > cooker project site here: http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/ > > (http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/png_icons_test_dir/) > > How does it work with different browsers? I don't see any difference between these browsers: - Current cooker/Konqueror - Current cooker/Mozilla - Win2k Phoenix - Win2k IE5.0 The png files are transparent. -- Marcel Pol
